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31. "you're not in the industry"
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>For real 670,000 is a big
>disappointment.

You're not in the industry, are you?

Name 15 hip-hop albums that sold 670,000 units in 2000.

Do you have any idea how many hip-hop albums were released in 2000?

Do you realize that LWFC sold far more than any previous Common album?

So, how on earth was it a disappointment, being by far the best selling album of his career?

> Think Jill Scott's
>joint went platinum without the
>benefit of a single that
>did as well as "The
>Light".

Wrong. I heard Jill Scott on the radio MUCH more than Common. Did Com perform at The Grammies? Jill did (with Moby, right?). Is Common going on an arena tour with Sting? Jill is. Did I not see "Gettin In The Way" every 30 minutes on MTV2 (and that is NOT an exagerration).

> MCA dropped the
>ball by waiting too long
>to follow up "The Light"
>with another single

blah.

Do you realize how many hip-hop projects don't even see the release of a second single? Besides, radio is notoriously closed right now. It takes a lot to get them to add the first single, let alone the second single.

Again, you aren't in the industry, are you?

> and then
>releasing that bullshit, happy ass
>GETO Heaven Re-mix featuring Macy
>Gray. Obviously that was
>an attempt to appeal to
>the MTV crossover audience, but
>the heads, and radio didn't
>give a damn about it.

Well, this is a tricky business. Like I said, radio playlists aren't known for their flexibility, particularly urban radio.

>Going gold means nothing these days,

You really aren't in the industry.

>Comm went gold off the
>strength of "The Light", period,
>MCA should have came with
>the fire after that.

And the record label you work for is...?

>Bottomline, Com should have been platinum.

Besides Xzibit, I can't think of a hip-hop artist that had previous albums not even go gold, then hit platinum mid-career. And that's only because Dre scooped up Xzibit (giving him the mainstream seal of approval). Rapping with Snoop on a radio hit, sure didn't hurt (B Please).

>But him going gold simply
>means that he probably won't
>get dropped from the label,
>and we can expect another
>album in the near future.

You know how many people repeatedly do not go gold who are still signed? Beatnuts come to mind immediately.

> Don't expect platinum though,
>judging by the success (or
>lack thereof) of "Things Fall
>Apart", it's obvious that MCA
>has no clue how to
>promote progressive hip-hop.

After giving Com and The Roots' their first gold albums, I have to violently disagree with you.

Who DOES know how to promote progressive hip-hop? Talib Kweli and Pharoah aren't gold yet, are you cursing the name of Rawkus?

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

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Com sells 670,000 [View all] , spirit, Tue May-15-01 09:39 AM
 
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RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
1
that's damn good!
May 15th 2001
2
      tight as album is
May 15th 2001
3
      Nice to see com finally get some sales
MrIdontgiveafuckalupugus
May 15th 2001
5
      misconceptions
May 15th 2001
6
           I meant *pre* LWFC
May 15th 2001
7
      comm had 2 hit singles...
May 15th 2001
9
      RE: comm had 2 hit singles...
May 16th 2001
28
           RE: comm had 2 hit singles...
May 16th 2001
33
           Ghetto Heavan was not a hit
May 16th 2001
34
                RE: my man !!!
May 16th 2001
36
                     so who are you?
May 16th 2001
43
                     Lol!
May 16th 2001
44
      dude
May 15th 2001
11
           *choking on chill pill*
May 16th 2001
29
                bwahaha
May 16th 2001
45
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
4
he WILL hit one mill
May 15th 2001
8
      damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
10
           he's gotta be platinum...
May 15th 2001
12
           RE: he's gotta be platinum...
ubiquitous
May 16th 2001
27
           worldwide...
May 16th 2001
30
                otay. tanks.
May 16th 2001
32
           RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
13
           RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
14
                my favorite video of the year
May 15th 2001
16
                RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
22
           RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
26
It's great for Com
May 15th 2001
15
he would go plat...
May 15th 2001
17
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
18
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
19
Damn Napster too!!
May 15th 2001
20
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
21
      RE: Com sells 670,000
JKilla
May 15th 2001
23
           RE: Com would love to go platinum
May 15th 2001
24
           RE: slow down toughguy....
May 16th 2001
35
                sugarplum?
May 16th 2001
38
                RE: sugarplum?
May 16th 2001
39
                     it's been boring around here w/out you
May 16th 2001
46
                     RE: whoa big guy......
May 16th 2001
47
                          eff him and the Squires
May 17th 2001
58
                     RE: sugarplum?
May 17th 2001
49
                RE: Label Guy,
May 17th 2001
51
                     RE: Label Guy, this is my final answer
May 17th 2001
63
           that has to be....
May 16th 2001
40
                It came on Saturday!! YAY!!!
May 16th 2001
42
RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
50
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
53
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
55
      RE: you're not in the industry
Traci
May 17th 2001
62
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
54
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
56
      apples and oranges
May 17th 2001
57
           RE: How 'bout 'dem apples?
May 17th 2001
59
???
May 16th 2001
37
RE: ???
May 17th 2001
52
      i think you did..
May 17th 2001
60
here here
May 17th 2001
61
bring back no I.D.!!!!
algren
May 15th 2001
25
RE: bring back no I.D.!!!!
May 16th 2001
41
      RE: bring back no I.D.!!!!
May 16th 2001
48

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