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56. "wrath of my mathness"
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>Quest,
>
>Surely you realize that plenty of
>labels that aren't majors pump
>out loads of quality product
>with projects with budgets $300,000
>and less, right?


but how many of those joints you hear on the radio/video 24/7. and at the end of the day....hey j dilla's fantastic vol 1 is one of my favorite all time classics but if you dont make the label money you are outta there!

and yes....even "the blast" cost mad loot to push.






>And the $100,000 for independent radio
>promoters gets blown on the
>single, not every song on
>the record.

i meant singles.

but even still my point was that $300,000 aint shit in the world of music making. today that can bearly get you a half decent hype video.







>but all of this is elementary.
>when you find out your
>budget is $300,000, you and
>your management have to be
>congnizant of one or two
>possibilities (a) we will be
>able to make this record,
>through miracuous sacrifice and we
>need to plan how we'll
>make it through OR

well short of the jazzies making everyone go lower than what they charge already ?(im sure most cats on this record are taking a half L already) if we sacrifice anymore the cops might question us for the bloodshed (bad bible joke)



(b)
>we're fucked from jump and
>they have no intention of
>letting us succeed. then there's
>option

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!!!



(c): maybe if we
>give them the right songs,
>they'll up our budget midway
>through recording, which does happen.
>and apparently is what happened
>here. record, record, record, hope
>the budget gets boosted later
>on.

im sorry but you will never convince me that "good songs" magically get on the radio out the kindness of some programmers heart.

mca has never pushed the jazzies to radio to even see if they were getting "felt" in the first place.

at least tell em "hey we have the jazzies".

i bet right now 90% of the label dont even know merce and trace's first names.







>Jay has a very vital point.
>The Jazzies have to do
>something to make themselves a
>priority at MCA.

we did everything within the bounds of the law.....

matter of fact we pulled some suge shit too.

but what do you suggest?





I'm not
>going to play manager here
>and make a list of
>suggestions (or maybe I will,
>but not detailed suggestions). In
>any case, Jay is absolutely
>correct that the size of
>your budget is pretty much
>directly proportionate to how much
>the label figures you'll make
>them back.

i for one thinks he didn't listen to the product to begin with.
mind you this is the man that would not let us snag jill.




>i don't see the jazzies on
>any major tours.

who they gonna open for?
lil bow wow?
destiny's child?
us?

this all goes hand in hand. they can't tour cause no one knows their material like that. the double dutch game of entry position music world is a fast tough one.






i tried
>to book the jazzies to
>come to DC and the
>booking agent was talking $10,000.


spirit. you are one of the few players/vets i respect.
no way in hell this convo was had. and if it was then as a promoter you should know that cats will always come in higher than what is norm.

it's called haggling.


you have to tell me verbatim how you got that figure.




>helpful hint: reduce that fee
>because it's not happening considering
>how few records JFN has
>sold. and, yeah, the booking
>agent mentioned tour support from
>the label co-funding that fee,
>but you know what? MCA
>ain't gonna give out tour
>support forever, as you can
>see now. if the situation
>is as desperate as described,
>JFN should be damn near
>performing for free to just
>to get more exposure.

i'll give you one better.

they pay to put on black lily every week!

they pay.

and now that new york is back in effect come sunday the 10th. shit will run us in the hole. (til you know who comes out with another album)



>what about touring europe?

planefare for my trip to italy 2 weeks back: $2000
hotel: $190/night

multiply that by two jazzies
a tourmanager
a 3 piece band
a roadie/soundguy






japan? $4000 ticket


releasing
>white labels undercover?
shit costs too much money!!!!!!!!!!!



more cameos?
they are on every motive related record.




>SOMETHING.

anything!


the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-the low end theory
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-ready to die
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2
midnight maurauders- @@@@

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)



check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Jazzies get the fuck off MCA/Motive! [View all] , allday, Sat May-26-01 05:35 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: actually
May 26th 2001
1
I think
May 26th 2001
2
Ok
May 26th 2001
3
labelguy would beg to differ on the MCA angle
May 27th 2001
4
chat'um up
May 30th 2001
14
      RE: Malandro, do your homework
Jun 02nd 2001
49
RE: Jazzies get the fuck off MCA/Motive!
May 27th 2001
5
potential Jazzy homes
May 27th 2001
6
      they wrote for Toshi Kubota...and Eric Benet too me thinks...n/m
May 31st 2001
35
being in the stores is the shit
May 27th 2001
7
RE: Jazzies get the fuck off MCA/Motive!
Marinera
May 27th 2001
8
Motive/CashMoney/Universal
May 27th 2001
9
RE: Jazzies get the fuck off MCA/Motive!
May 28th 2001
10
whOa
May 29th 2001
11
Questions for Mercedes
May 30th 2001
12
al capone?
May 30th 2001
13
      fam
May 30th 2001
15
           playboy
May 30th 2001
16
           RE: playboy
May 30th 2001
21
                RE: playboy
May 30th 2001
25
                     300,000 aint shit.
May 30th 2001
34
                          RE: 300,000 aint shit.
May 31st 2001
37
                          recording budget or album fund
May 31st 2001
38
                          youre the fucking man
May 31st 2001
39
                          he mentioned that before too...
May 31st 2001
40
                          trust
Jun 02nd 2001
50
                          cut corners
May 31st 2001
42
                          pre production is underrated...I agree
Jun 03rd 2001
51
                          math problems
May 31st 2001
44
                          co-sign
Jun 01st 2001
47
                         
                               haggling??????
Jun 04th 2001
60
                          RE: 300,000 aint shit.
turnstyleNYC
Jun 03rd 2001
52
                          RE: 300,000 aint shit.
Jun 05th 2001
63
           oh yeah
May 30th 2001
17
                hands on?
May 30th 2001
22
                     RE: hands on?
May 30th 2001
23
                     if they gonna pay their dues
May 31st 2001
41
                          co-sign
May 31st 2001
45
                          come come now
Jun 03rd 2001
57
                               y'all ain't always have tour support...
Jun 04th 2001
58
                                    or did you?
Jun 04th 2001
59
                                         lol!!!
Jun 05th 2001
62
That kind of ish ticks me off!!
May 30th 2001
18
im on the case
May 30th 2001
19
RE: Jazzies get the fuck off MCA/Motive!
May 30th 2001
20
fucked up
May 30th 2001
24
one thing to say
May 30th 2001
26
Yeah
May 30th 2001
27
Hmm definately makes sense
May 30th 2001
29
yeah but he owns his own studio...
May 31st 2001
36
Hmm seems like a no brainer
May 30th 2001
28
see
May 30th 2001
31
      pssst. hey you, fire...could be a long shot
May 30th 2001
33
great minds toots
May 31st 2001
43
read my post
Jun 03rd 2001
53
Master P
May 30th 2001
30
RE: Master P
May 30th 2001
32
The Business of Music
May 31st 2001
46
TRY COLLEGE
Jun 02nd 2001
48
      if every aspiring player...
Jun 04th 2001
61
can anyone
Jun 03rd 2001
54
60K
Jun 03rd 2001
55
      if so
Jun 05th 2001
64

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