answers<P>> there is really only one question that I would >like to have answered. Is there ever a time that >a black man can be with a white women and it <BR>>not be because of some issue that the man has >w/black women.<P>yes, Sometimes though, its because of issues the brotha has with WHITE people, with his blackness period, love and a combination of all 4. Love doesn't exist in a vacuum...people bring things to them that they FEEL or THINK they need. its not some accidental shit.<BR> <BR>>I'm a single black 24 year old male I have dated <BR>>white, black, hispanic, and asian women. I have >also had the oppurtunity to travel overseas and >see different cultures and see how interacial > >couples are viewed and treated. In any other >country that I have visisted and the mixing of >races in marriage or dating is not frowned <BR>>upon with the same veracity that <BR>>it is in the US.<P>I've traveled too and i'm older. You fail to say where you've traveled or the environment that you've been in during those travels - that plays a role in what you will see & here. Walk thru the village & you'd think black male/nonblack female couples are the standard...doesn't mean that its true. Its quite conceivable that you were in places & areas where your race, gender, nationality, economic status masked issues people had with your selection of mates.<P>>Why is that? I've read every post in this thread >and I see alot of concerned black women saying >that the black men that they have encountered say >they date outside there race because black women <BR>>are not docile. <P>ummm..it was a male (presumbably a brotha) that brought that factor into this particular convo. Its also a common reason brothas give for why they cross over. <P>>My mother is black and she is not docile, and as >I look back every girlfriend that I have had(no >matter the race) is almost just like her , full >of life, opinionated, independent and proud.<P>Did you find your mother beautiful? Are the culture, heritage, experiences of your mother something you want to include in your life, pass on to your children? Who better to do that than a another black woman? <P>>No matter how you look at this issue its a >personnal issue,<P>life is a personal issue...but every personal decision has a political, cultural, social affects. <P>>the world is changing people are finding the >beauty in other cultures. <P>Or maybe its that some brothas are can't recognize the beauty WITHIN black women and their own culture. Maybe some brothas are so indoctrinated with right is right/brown stick around mentality that they dismiss the beauty in black women and irrationally elevate the nonblack aesthetics to beautiful in their minds simply because they're nonblack. <P>Question: why is it that nonblack men don't marry/date BLACK women in the numbers that black men date/marry nonblack women? Why is it that the lightest of our community are considered the prettiest while blonde & blue eyed is still considered the epitome of beauty in theirs? <P>>So this is my question. Can love for another >person trandscend race? <P>of course it can. better question, can we learn to love each other and ourselves first?<P>My question: when will some brothas stop putting every other type of woman up on a pedastol and start LOVING black women the way other races of men apparently love their own? Or when will more black men start loving the women who LOOK like their mamas, look like their sisters, and look like themselves?<P>>black man choose to generalize all black women, >please do not mourn his lost. <P>I don't but when he gets in front of a mixed crowd & starts hatin' on us, I think he needs to be answered. <P>>And also if your view of th world is such that >you don't want to support the Roots because you >think Black Thought's movie role is tearing the <BR>>fabric of the black community apart then what you >need to do is get all the black folk together go >find an deserted island in the pacific and be >fruitfull and mutiply that is the only <BR>>way that you will be able to truly "preserve" the >black community(this is not sarcasm). <P>The fact is that we don't need to go to some desert island. Apparently, there aren't as many white women willing to cross over as brothas would hope and fortunately there are some brothas who actually love being black, love black women, and feel blessed to help create nappy headed, wide nosed, fatassed, full lipped, bittersweet chocolate skinned beautiful black babies for this world. They dont' sit around talking about how some of the beautiful children they've ever seen are mixed when they've been surrounded by the most beautiful babies in the world. They don't go searching for treasures in the hostile territory when they've got jewels all around them. They are happy God made them in his image and see the beauty and purpose in continuing that line.<P>look interracial couples will do what they will but there is a problem with the DISPROPORTIONATE amount of brothas dating/marrying outside of the race no matter how hard you try to mask it in "we are the world" utopian packaging.