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33. "Huey P., conscious & revolutionary heads, N-words, etc."
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>No it does not. None
>of us are perfect. We
>all have terrible habits but
>that does not negate the
>message. Dr. Huey P. Newton
>was a crackhead and smaked
>women around. Does that make
>his message any less powerful
>or make him any less
>sincere in his goals?

Personally, I think people like Huey P. Newton and other "fallen" revolutionaries succumbed to such deviant activity because the public demanded so much out them that when they became exhausted from trying to help Black folks, no one was left to have their back. So either they became drug addicts and domestic abusers, snitches, or contributors to the status quo. I think that this is why there is an absence in Black leadership, because brothers and sisters are afraid that they'll be left stranded by the community they represent when the reactionary white supremacist structure gets the best of them.

But to speak in accordance to the topic at hand, I agree that this is something that has been brought up repeatedly, and personally these are my least favorite posts because the conversations never go anywhere. They're basically one-sided arguments that become battle of wits that become shouting matches that become a competition to see who can get the last word. I'm not saying that an overall solution to this problem should come out of each discussion (because I'm not afraid to admit that I don't have one), but something a little more productive could arise from these discussions, such as acknowledging our disagreements but realizing that we're on the same side.

As far as the Okayartists saying NIGGER (or BITCH for that matter) on their songs, it's a natural knee-jerk reaction to be disappointed about someone who you feel is doing something out of character (I'm sure some of y'all have been watching the Malik vs. Nicole battles recently on MTV's The Real World). I'm sure they, just like other Black folks, knows that it's not in the best interest of our people or themselves to use such a word, yet use it anyway. It's almost like smoking, people know that there are dangerous chemicals in cigarettes, yet people buy them anyway. (the same goes with marijuana---btw, I'm surprised no one hasn't made a post about this) Although I may disagree with their use of the word, I personally don't think it should be the end-all of whether they are credible artists along the standards of being "conscious" or a "revolutionary".

I respect people's concerns about the use of this word and I do feel that it's important for them to express these concerns. However, I'm concerned about how people think that Black people applying their own forms of double standards in regards to using NIGGER somehow marks the death of our culture and our people. I'm not saying that it isn't problematic, but there are some other things we need to call people out on aside from just brothers and sisters calling each other niggers and bitches. I personally think bringing forth positive action will bring forth positive rhetoric, which means that as Black people, we will have to change a lot of habits in our familial practices and how we see ourselves collectively and individually, which hopefully will remedy the mentality that has us calling each other NIGGERS in the first place.

I know that last statement may have sounded lofty and clichéd, but hopefully someone out there feels me.

anonymubiquity
(aka ma)
meudontno@hotmail.com


"Just because we're well-spoken and intelligent doesn't mean we're not human."
--?uestlove, justifying why the Roots have a stripper pole in their studio

  

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Okayartists and the "N" word... [View all] , SirLau, Tue Aug-07-01 10:46 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Look nigga,
Aug 07th 2001
1
RE: Look nigga,
Aug 07th 2001
2
RE: Look nigga,
Aug 07th 2001
3
ignorance breeds contempt
iluvmaxy
Aug 07th 2001
9
RE: Look nigga,
Aug 13th 2001
77
RE: He DOES
Aug 07th 2001
6
RE: He DOES
Aug 08th 2001
16
      he is being satirical.
Aug 08th 2001
25
           RE: he is being satirical.
TheWallyChamp
Aug 08th 2001
30
           RE: he is being satirical.
Aug 08th 2001
36
           FO' SHO'!!!
Aug 08th 2001
37
           Double FO SHO!!!
Aug 08th 2001
38
           what i would tell your nephews...
Aug 08th 2001
41
                RE: what i would tell your nephews...
Aug 08th 2001
46
                RE: what i would tell your nephews... DEEP
Aug 13th 2001
79
                     right here on earth...
Aug 13th 2001
81
           WallyChamp...
Aug 08th 2001
40
          
                RE: Huey P., conscious & revolutionary heads, N-words, etc.
Aug 09th 2001
59
RE: Look nigga,
queenamina7
Aug 08th 2001
44
on a related matter...
Aug 07th 2001
4
True.
Aug 07th 2001
12
RE: True.
Aug 07th 2001
13
I don't get it..
Aug 08th 2001
20
Stop taggin!
Aug 07th 2001
5
RE: Stop taggin!
Aug 07th 2001
7
I know you don't speak for everyone...
Aug 07th 2001
8
RE: I know you don't speak for everyone...
erwinOlogy
Aug 08th 2001
28
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 07th 2001
10
HOLLA
okayheckler
Aug 07th 2001
11
*mush*
Aug 07th 2001
14
RE: To Mathmagic and others
Aug 07th 2001
15
      Amen!!!
Aug 08th 2001
22
"Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
17
RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
18
      RE: Finally, a voice of reason....
Aug 08th 2001
19
      RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
21
           RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 08th 2001
29
           RE: "Conscious"?
Aug 09th 2001
52
           Not True
Aug 08th 2001
39
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
23
RE: For Chike...
Aug 08th 2001
27
      God
Aug 08th 2001
32
read
Aug 08th 2001
24
flat out
Lunch tha Flat Foota
Aug 08th 2001
26
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
31
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
34
Consciousness doesn't always mean...
Aug 08th 2001
35
RE: Consciousness doesn't always mean...
queenamina7
Aug 08th 2001
43
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
queenamina7
Aug 08th 2001
42
conscious by relation
Aug 08th 2001
45
RE: Hey Queen Amina...
Aug 08th 2001
47
nigger
Aug 08th 2001
48
RE: C'mon ?uest!!!
Aug 08th 2001
50
      i'm sure he wasn't aware. n/m
Aug 08th 2001
51
           People, people...
Aug 09th 2001
65
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 08th 2001
49
Here's what I'm thinking:
Aug 09th 2001
53
god, you're naive.
Aug 09th 2001
54
      What?
Aug 09th 2001
55
           RE: What?
Aug 09th 2001
56
                Okay, so, go on
Aug 09th 2001
57
                     i'm not going nowhere
Aug 09th 2001
60
                          Whatever
Aug 09th 2001
61
                               actually
Aug 09th 2001
63
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
jbrown
Aug 09th 2001
58
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 09th 2001
62
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 09th 2001
64
Wow
Aug 09th 2001
66
      ???
Aug 09th 2001
67
           RE: ???
Aug 09th 2001
68
           RE: ???
Aug 09th 2001
69
well
Aug 10th 2001
70
RE: well
Aug 11th 2001
71
      Damn, I never knew...
Aug 11th 2001
72
      RE: well
Aug 13th 2001
75
           tokyo breakfast
Aug 13th 2001
76
                i dont know about tokyo breakfast
Aug 13th 2001
82
RE: Okayartists and the "N" word...
Aug 12th 2001
73
The "N" word: Nazi?
Aug 12th 2001
74
ALL OF THEM ARE WRONG
Aug 13th 2001
78
      Preach on, brother...
Aug 13th 2001
80

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