i thought dove was doing some mosaic-level sarcasm, but i clicked the link and it's an actual article. wowzers. "chairman and founder of the roots"? LOL. um, doesn't he mean co-founder (with thought)? ah, well. it's all to the good, i guess.
as for the black lily thing...i don't know the history of it, so i can't speak on it. i thought it *was* quest's idea, but i could be perfectly wrong (not like that's a one-time occurence...heh).