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"RIP Pope John Paul II."
Sun Apr-03-05 09:16 PM by truth0ne SGC

  

          

(CNN) -- John Paul II, whose 26-year reign as the charismatic leader of the world's 1 billion Roman Catholics was highlighted by visits to 129 countries, died Saturday. He was 84.

"The Holy Father is deceased this evening at 9:37 in his private apartment," Archbishop Leonardo Sandri said in a written statement.

"Our beloved Holy Father John Paul II has returned to his home. Let us pray for him."

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls also referred to changes in the papal transition process that were made nine years ago.

"All the procedures that were foreseen in the apostolic constitution that were put forth by John Paul II on the 22 February 1996 have been launched." (Rituals ahead)

Sandri asked the throng of thousands of faithful who had congregated in St. Peter's Square for a few moments of silence as he announced the death. People in the crowd bowed their heads to pray, some of them in tears.

They then burst into applause.

"Let perpetual light shine on him and let him repose in peace," he said.

A Mass in the pope's honor will be held at 10:30 a.m. Sunday, he said.

The pope was known for his energy, intellectualism and activism on the global stage. His health had been deteriorating severely for several weeks, and he had battled Parkinson's disease and crippling arthritis for years.

John Paul had been slipping in and out of consciousness Saturday after his heart and kidneys started to fail after a urinary tract infection.

Navarro-Valls said that despite his precarious health, the pope had decided to remain in his residence at the Vatican, rather than returning to Gemelli hospital in Rome, where he had been hospitalized twice since February.

He was administered the sacrament of anointing the sick, formerly known as last rites or extreme unction, Thursday night.

Pilgrims, tourists and Italians filled St. Peter's Square on Saturday, hours after tens of thousands of people packed the vast space in a nighttime vigil.

Thousands of people gathered in Krakow, Poland -- where John Paul served as archbishop before becoming pope -- at the archbishop's residence. People in the crowd prayed for their fellow Pole.

In the United States, President Bush said his country loved the pontiff.

"All popes belong to the world but Americans had special reason to love the man from Krakow," President Bush said at the White House. "Pope John Paul II was himself an inspiration to millions of Americans and to so many more throughout the world.

"We will always remember the humble, wise and fearless priest who became one of history's great moral leaders."

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was privileged to have met the pope.

"Quite apart from his role as a spiritual guide to more than a billion men, women and children, he was a tireless advocate of peace, a true pioneer in interfaith dialogue and a strong force for critical self-evaluation by the Church itself," Annan said.
Lengthy reign as pope

Rising from humble beginnings in pre-World War II Poland, John Paul was the most widely traveled pope in history and was the first to visit the White House, a synagogue and communist Cuba.

Only two of his 263 predecessors served longer than he did -- St. Peter, the first pope, and Pius IX in the 19th century.

Supporters and critics alike agree on the immense significance of his papacy.

He played a key role in the fall of communism and brought the Catholic message in person to an unprecedented number of people.

He drew enormous crowds in his public appearances and was known for his courage and integrity.

A profoundly conservative leader, he reaffirmed many of the church's stances on issues such as abortion, homosexuality and the role of women in the church.

Despite criticism, he remained unwavering on those and other stances, including his preference for centralized authority within the church, which some saw as hindering a move toward a more democratic church.
Chronic illnesses

The pope suffered from severe hip and knee ailments and Parkinson's disease, a progressive neurological disorder that can make breathing and swallowing difficult.

On February 24, doctors performed a tracheotomy to help him breathe, as he struggled to recover from a bout of flu that hospitalized him.

On Wednesday, a feeding tube was put down his nose into his stomach to provide additional nutrition.

The feeding tube was inserted shortly after the pope's regular weekly audience, where he appeared at the window of his study overlooking St. Peter's Square for about four minutes.

Unable to speak, he used hand gestures to bless thousands of people who gathered for a glimpse of him.

On Easter, the pope also tried to speak to the crowds but could not get out the words. Ill health forced him to miss several events during Holy Week preceding Easter.
Papal legacy

John Paul was born Karol Jozef Wojtyla on May 18, 1920, in Wadowice, Poland.

After his ordination as a priest in November 1946, he rose steadily through the church hierarchy, becoming archbishop of Krakow in 1964.

He was elevated to cardinal in a secret consistory in 1968 and formally installed in a Vatican ceremony days later.

Despite his reputation as a formidable theologian and fearless defender of Catholic interests, his election as pope October 16, 1978 -- the first-ever Slavic pope and the first non-Italian to occupy the post in 455 years -- came as a surprise.

So too did the energy and determination he brought to his papacy, never letting health issues get in the way of his travels.

Not even an attempted assassination in 1981 kept him down. A Turk named Mehmet Ali Agca shot him twice. The pope recovered and later met Agca in prison and personally forgave him.

He re-established the Vatican's diplomatic relations with Great Britain and the United States, as well as with Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization.

He delivered more than 2,000 public addresses and issued countless encyclicals and apostolic letters, making him one of the most active men ever to occupy the papal see. He canonized 482 saints, more than any other pontiff, and created 232 cardinals.

His papacy was divided into two distinct halves.

"In the first 10 years his great concern was with communism," said Warsaw-based Catholic commentator Jonathon Luxmore. "Since then his focus has been more on the ills of Western society."

John Paul's role in the fall of communism was a subtle but crucial one. His visit to Poland in 1979 and his support for the Solidarity movement were key in the chain of events that led to the eventual crumbling of Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski's regime 10 years later.

His stand against what he saw as the moral failure of Western capitalism, however, was notably less successful.

Although his outspoken views on human rights gained him many admirers, his preaching in such areas as sexual mores, science and the role of women in the church alienated many liberal Catholics.

"He was what you might call a revolutionary conservative," said Giovanni Ferro, editor of the Rome-based Catholic magazine Jesus.

"In some areas he was very forward-minded. In others, however, he was an extremely traditionalist pope. He maintained all sorts of opposing currents in the church, with the result that his successor will probably be faced with a great crisis of direction."

Who that successor will be remains to be decided by the College of Cardinals, which will meet at the Vatican in the coming days to select the next pope.

Whoever it is will struggle to make his mark, succeeding as he does one of the longest-serving and most contentious figures in papal history.

"One thing is for certain," Luxmore said. " is going to be a terrifically hard act to follow."

  

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RIP Pope John Paul II. [View all] , truth0ne SGC, Fri Apr-01-05 01:20 AM
 
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The time is near...
Apr 01st 2005
1
oh no!! I think RAS KAAS is with him spitting razor sharp quotes!
Apr 02nd 2005
172
que descanse en paz
Apr 02nd 2005
204
even though it's kinda wrong, LOL @ the Janus edit.
Apr 01st 2005
2
The shit is so ridiculous...
Apr 01st 2005
3
how do they pick a new pope
Apr 01st 2005
4
Like a Vice-Pope?
Apr 01st 2005
5
The College of Cardinals elect a new pope.
Apr 01st 2005
6
Electing a Pope.
Apr 01st 2005
7
I'm running for Pope
Apr 01st 2005
14
      Give it up already
Apr 01st 2005
41
           lmao
Apr 01st 2005
52
i give it within 30mins.
Apr 01st 2005
8
the media is just as pathetic as okayplayer.com
Apr 01st 2005
9
This IS going to be a historic event.
Apr 01st 2005
10
I went to the breakroom to grab a Diet Coke,
Apr 01st 2005
11
Catholic w/Muslim influence???
Apr 01st 2005
19
      Don't ask.
Apr 01st 2005
21
i really want to ask everybody..
Apr 01st 2005
12
that nigga bout to be sleepin' with the Jesus fishes!
Apr 01st 2005
13
So horrible, yet so excellent.
Apr 01st 2005
15
I'm going to hell for laughing at that
Apr 01st 2005
18
if you're mourning the Pope this isn't the forum for you.
Apr 01st 2005
17
      RE: if you're mourning the Pope this isn't the forum for you.
Apr 01st 2005
23
           ha!
Apr 01st 2005
27
           remember they ARE protestants/reformists.
Apr 01st 2005
36
                i mean really.
Apr 01st 2005
39
                RE: remember they ARE protestants/reformists.
Apr 01st 2005
108
                     mayne. the reformists HATE what he represents...
Apr 01st 2005
122
this makes me raise my eyebrows:
Apr 01st 2005
16
Pinoy Catholics *heart* the Pope.
Apr 01st 2005
20
RE: Pinoy Catholics *heart* the Pope.
Apr 02nd 2005
215
if there's anything to know bout Pilipinos, it's religion and miracles.....
Apr 02nd 2005
220
NOOOO i have $20 on Sunday!!!
Apr 01st 2005
22
bwahahahahahah that is sooo wrong
Apr 01st 2005
99
that's cold.
Apr 01st 2005
139
      He's protestant
Apr 02nd 2005
199
ITs a wrap.
Apr 01st 2005
24
yeah, r.i.p.
Apr 01st 2005
25
RIP Poopy Poopy
Apr 01st 2005
26
He's not dead you freakos. He lost consciousness.
Apr 01st 2005
28
Denial?
Apr 01st 2005
32
Youngster.
Apr 01st 2005
33
      People grieve differently.
Apr 01st 2005
35
      Actually, CNN just took down the banner.
Apr 01st 2005
40
           this is worse than the 2000 election.
Apr 01st 2005
44
           Oh man, LOL @ Robo-Pope.
Apr 01st 2005
67
                there's a Sci-Fi book about it...
Apr 01st 2005
72
      So wat's MSNBC talkin bout?
Apr 01st 2005
43
           The Vat has to give the official word.
Apr 01st 2005
47
Just heard on the radio that he just passed...
Apr 01st 2005
29
...and they just retracted it.
Apr 01st 2005
116
oop!
Apr 01st 2005
30
damn, he is dead...
Apr 01st 2005
31
THERE'S Your DRAMA You BASTARDS!!
Apr 01st 2005
34
mo converts, mo problems
Apr 01st 2005
37
wonder if he is going to heaven or hell
Apr 01st 2005
38
if he's not in heaven then there is no heaven.
Apr 01st 2005
42
lol gotdamn
Apr 01st 2005
45
      i was raised Baptist & Pentecostal.
Apr 01st 2005
49
he will ascend...
Apr 01st 2005
r.i.p.
Apr 01st 2005
46
RIP
Apr 01st 2005
48
angels and demons
Apr 01st 2005
50
Nope. they just retracted it. Pope is Alive
Apr 01st 2005
51
THERE'S your drama......you freakoz. Don't trust yahoo over MSNBC.
Apr 01st 2005
53
MSNBC just retracted.
Apr 01st 2005
57
retracted what?
Apr 01st 2005
59
      THE UNDEAD.
Apr 01st 2005
74
They had it posted on CNN.com but retracted it. n/m
Apr 01st 2005
61
Dead.
Apr 01st 2005
62
      latest reports: Brain sill signaling, Heart still beating. that's my poi...
Apr 01st 2005
85
WORST APRIL FOOLS JOKE EVER
Apr 01st 2005
54
On the next episode of Punk'd......
Apr 01st 2005
66
      LOL!...What if Ashton Kutcher walked outta the Vatican in a suit?
Apr 01st 2005
75
the man that blessed armies before they went to kill
Apr 01st 2005
55
aren't you in the reserves?
Apr 01st 2005
58
no
Apr 01st 2005
65
which army ?
Apr 01st 2005
60
see wwII and desert storm ock
Apr 01st 2005
68
      was he the pope during WW2 ?
Apr 01st 2005
70
           ha...no.
Apr 01st 2005
102
           so thats okayplayer
Apr 01st 2005
113
                did a pope bless the troops during WW2?
Apr 01st 2005
125
                     where is he from ? what troops did he bless ?
Apr 01st 2005
129
                     given the fact he's polish
Apr 01st 2005
154
                     he was in his 20s during WW2
Apr 02nd 2005
203
You wild, yo...
Apr 01st 2005
63
...maybe he was praying for the soldiers themselves???
Apr 01st 2005
69
      ain't no way to rationalize it ock
Apr 01st 2005
73
           you bless humans to SPARE other humans.
Apr 01st 2005
86
           RE: ain't no way to rationalize it ock
Apr 01st 2005
114
           **Applause** n/m
Apr 02nd 2005
205
           Everytime you use a condom you prevent little humans.
Apr 01st 2005
121
           he was polish priest in hiding during world war II and has opposed...
Apr 02nd 2005
221
                he wasn't even ordained until 1946
Apr 03rd 2005
231
                     my bad he was a seminarian who then went to hiding n/m.
Apr 03rd 2005
235
checks the date...........
Apr 01st 2005
56
the daily show is gonna go buck wild with these conflicting reports.
Apr 01st 2005
64
lol!!
Apr 01st 2005
71
I can't believe how serious Y'all are when...
Apr 01st 2005
76
not to hate but....what has the pope done?
Apr 01st 2005
78
That's not the point
Apr 01st 2005
84
hitler influenced millions of ppl ock
Apr 01st 2005
88
      I mean forget all that
Apr 01st 2005
100
      i ain't making fun of his death
Apr 01st 2005
106
           so what's your purpose
Apr 01st 2005
110
      ur gay ass is right! j/k
Apr 01st 2005
147
read his Bio and learn for yourself.
Apr 01st 2005
91
i know his bio ock
Apr 01st 2005
97
      well then his courage to minister to people during
Apr 01st 2005
109
      dude you wrote that he was a pope during WW2
Apr 01st 2005
118
           damn u mad. u must be one them ppl
Apr 01st 2005
123
                RE: damn u mad. u must be one them ppl
Apr 01st 2005
133
                     u missed my point
Apr 01st 2005
143
                     LOL
Apr 01st 2005
157
i understand you, but...
Apr 01st 2005
120
then you too should stay away from this thread
Apr 01st 2005
132
RE: i understand you, but...
Apr 02nd 2005
212
helped end communism, off break...
Apr 02nd 2005
174
I agree
Apr 01st 2005
79
What has the Pope done but donned a title
Apr 01st 2005
80
i said no matter which religion do you believe in.
Apr 01st 2005
103
the Pope is important to you, Rick James is important to me
Apr 01st 2005
81
this reply is comedy
Apr 01st 2005
83
you would have only cared if...
Apr 01st 2005
111
      huh? nah son i dont care cuz hes ONLY human
Apr 01st 2005
124
           Dot Dot Dot! I am with you babe
Apr 01st 2005
150
LMAO! U cant be for real
Apr 01st 2005
146
I said this 3 hours ago....ya'll didn't believe it
Apr 01st 2005
77
and there was already a post three hours ago. thanksforplaying.
Apr 01st 2005
82
      ...........................................................................
Apr 01st 2005
87
           lmao u and this pigeon shit
Apr 01st 2005
89
           ain't you got some more women to wish sexual assault upon?
Apr 01st 2005
94
                ...........................................................................
Apr 01st 2005
95
why aint none of the news sites reportin the death?
Apr 01st 2005
90
Apr 01st 2005
93
stop the presses!!!!
Apr 01st 2005
92
(edit)
Apr 01st 2005
96
no thats no translation
Apr 01st 2005
112
italians or frenchies don't call him "john paul"
Apr 01st 2005
119
RE: italians or frenchies don't call him "john paul"
Apr 01st 2005
136
      yeah that's why i edited even before anybody pointed that out
Apr 01st 2005
138
catholics do that
Apr 01st 2005
144
      patron saints. you take the name of a cannonized saint. mine is
Apr 01st 2005
153
no...
Apr 01st 2005
115
Nah'mean?
Apr 01st 2005
98
i been hoodwinked.
Apr 01st 2005
107
John Paul is his rap name
Apr 01st 2005
101
I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE JOKING
Apr 01st 2005
104
about what?
Apr 01st 2005
117
      THEY ARE GIVEN NAMES LIKE THAT AFTER SAINTS
Apr 01st 2005
134
RE: stop the presses!!!!
Apr 02nd 2005
214
THEY JUST SAID ON CNN THAT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT HE IS DEAD
Apr 01st 2005
105
Did you guys hear that Frank 'the chicken dude' Perdue Died
Apr 01st 2005
126
Did you guys hear that Frank 'the chicken dude' Perdue Died
Apr 01st 2005
127
from sal manila?
Apr 01st 2005
128
      Oh Damn!
Apr 01st 2005
141
oh shit they just recanted statement of death... AGAIN
Apr 01st 2005
130
to those who ask about his "real" influence
Apr 01st 2005
131
Don't forget Poland. (c) Dubya
Apr 01st 2005
135
what he did in haiti
Apr 02nd 2005
173
Man, I got errands to run.
Apr 01st 2005
137
FUCK A UTI NIGGA I AIN'T GIVIN SHIT UP THAT EASY
Apr 01st 2005
140
So wrong...yet so funny.
Apr 01st 2005
142
ZOMBIE POPE!
Apr 01st 2005
145
He's probably expired, but they are going to wait until tomorrow
Apr 01st 2005
148
wtf r u talking bout? what shit?
Apr 01st 2005
151
I want to know what are people praying for?
Apr 01st 2005
149
any number of things:
Apr 01st 2005
156
      im really starting to believe some of you
Apr 03rd 2005
228
           umm look at the question
Apr 03rd 2005
233
                RE: umm look at the question
Apr 03rd 2005
238
Not yet. Cnn.com: 'Vatican: Pope in deteriorating condition'
Apr 01st 2005
152
do you know they hit him with a hammer?
Apr 01st 2005
155
*KLOK!*
Apr 01st 2005
158
      LMAO!!!! Yo man that's some funny shit n/m
Apr 01st 2005
160
      *lmao*
Apr 01st 2005
161
      lmao u said KLOK!
Apr 02nd 2005
168
Damn...mofos are just camping out for him to die...
Apr 01st 2005
159
but did you know
Apr 01st 2005
162
      some of thme have been renting for the last 5 years or more
Apr 01st 2005
163
I wonder why they didn't try to keep him on a machine?
Apr 01st 2005
164
his system is failing..he's like in limbo..
Apr 01st 2005
165
what if he feigned death as an april fools joke
Apr 01st 2005
166
*takes out wrap it up box*
Apr 01st 2005
167
ummm shouldn't you edit this at this point?
Apr 02nd 2005
169
..next pope will be Italian
Apr 02nd 2005
170
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
Apr 02nd 2005
171
yo, wrap it up, B!
Apr 02nd 2005
175
LMFAO @ Rjcc!
Apr 02nd 2005
176
the media is MADDDDD doggie
Apr 02nd 2005
178
lol WHATTT
Apr 02nd 2005
177
the saga continues.
Apr 02nd 2005
179
And that's all folks...
Apr 02nd 2005
180
2:56 PM EST - Pope Officially Reported as Dead....
Apr 02nd 2005
181
*waits on "The Pope" alias to appear*
Apr 02nd 2005
182
THE POPE IS OFFICALLY DEAD
Apr 02nd 2005
183
RE: THE POPE IS OFFICALLY DEAD
Apr 02nd 2005
184
Prayers.
Apr 02nd 2005
185
amen. n/m
Apr 02nd 2005
191
R.I.P.
Apr 02nd 2005
186
aww, pope =(
Apr 02nd 2005
187
Rest In Peace.
Apr 02nd 2005
188
Alot of you need jesus (n/m)
Apr 02nd 2005
189
Rest In Peace
Apr 02nd 2005
190
rest in peace ..god bless the pope
Apr 02nd 2005
192
RIP POPE
Apr 02nd 2005
193
RE: The Pope: dead, forreal this time
Apr 02nd 2005
194
Rest in peace...
Apr 02nd 2005
195
Why don't you just lock this one and make a new thread?
Apr 02nd 2005
196
NO.
Apr 02nd 2005
213
As a Catholic...I wonder who the next pope will be
Apr 02nd 2005
197
you're not a Catholic then
Apr 03rd 2005
232
REST IN PEACE
Apr 02nd 2005
198
el Papa..R.I.P.
Apr 02nd 2005
200
Glory be to the Father, to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit
Apr 02nd 2005
201
Espero que El Papa aquestes en paz,
Apr 02nd 2005
202
How about an African Pope? Cardinal Francis Arinze
Apr 02nd 2005
206
SIT BACK AND VIBE TO THE NEW SOUND NIGGA
Apr 03rd 2005
227
"That nigga was dead yesterday!!!!"
Apr 02nd 2005
207
RIP
Apr 02nd 2005
208
Rest in Peace
Apr 02nd 2005
209
not to take away from the pope...
Apr 02nd 2005
210
It's some hard, hard, HARD-hearted muthafuckas in this post.
Apr 02nd 2005
211
nothing worse than a hipocrite
Apr 03rd 2005
229
yep.
Apr 03rd 2005
234
      so y'all pick this one time to be sensitive about it
Apr 03rd 2005
237
           nothing you said is relevant at all
Apr 03rd 2005
241
They aren't "hard" in heard, mind or conviction.
Apr 03rd 2005
240
LOL @ little story below/ **edit** Terri vs. The Pope
Apr 02nd 2005
216
the pope was still communicating+acting as spiritual leader of billions....
Apr 02nd 2005
217
      were the machines keeping him alive?
Apr 02nd 2005
219
           its the pope.
Apr 02nd 2005
222
           i'm not even gonna finish reading nor reply to a known alias
Apr 03rd 2005
224
                why not?
Apr 03rd 2005
226
           maybe for a few days he had assisatnce with the food..
Apr 02nd 2005
223
                and I commend him for that, that wasn't my argument
Apr 03rd 2005
225
                     RE: and I commend him for that, that wasn't my argument
Apr 03rd 2005
236
Too bad
Apr 02nd 2005
218
rest in peace
Apr 03rd 2005
230
I came here just to see what kinda ignorance would be spoken.
Apr 03rd 2005
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