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28. "It's funny how just about everyone who actually studies the universe,"
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and really knows how it fits together, at the level of real mathematical thought and scientific evidence, as opposed to the simplistic and misleading translations found in Youtube videos and popularizations; just about every single one of the real scientists in the world of cosmology are atheists.

And the (very) few who actually do believe in the existence some kind of supernatural being are not making any sort of scientific argument (fine-tuning or otherwise), because they're especially aware that you can't make scientific arguments for the supernatural, by definition.

  

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The Fine Tuning of the Universe explained in 6 Min. [View all] , Case_One, Mon Dec-16-19 12:54 PM
 
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the most important fact about fine tuning" is that it doesn't get ...
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So, you're smarter learned than all the cosmologists & physicists
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      LMAO wait... you're really rocking with that response?
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           I asked you a straight forward question. Stop the normal sidestepping.
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           normal sidestepping? from me? coming from YOU?
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                Answer these three questions
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                     Still Waiting Answer these three questions
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                          your irrelevant diversions, while you ignore every point I've made?
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                               There's no diversion. Save the tears
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           It's logical fallacy whack-a-mole!
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                What's the logical fallacy?
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                     lol
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                     Gotcha. 0
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                     do you want a hint?
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                          My guy. You need to stay on the sidelines with this one.
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                               or what?
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                                    Look to your left.
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                                         when you can't be right, be weird:
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                                              Bro Hug my dude. Now have a seat.
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these's no scientific evidence for the existence of a multiverse.
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RE: these's no scientific evidence for the existence of a multiverse.
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      RE: these's no scientific evidence for the existence of a multiverse.
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      I can honestly say I don't have an answer for that.
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      So, do you believe that the universe has a cause and beginning?
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           I believe there aren't real answers to those questions.
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                You believe there aren't real answers to those questions... What?
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                     an honest person would just admit to not knowing
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                     RE: an honest person would just admit to not knowing
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                          noooiiiice
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                          lol
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                          my dude..the cake always being there doesn't even make
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                               Do you believe the Universe (CAKE) Always existed?
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                               the analogy falls apart.
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                               OMG. Ok. Dude it could have been any know product.
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                                    you don't see how this is flawed?
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                                         You cab't provide a basic opinion.
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                                              I don't have an opinion on it.
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                                                   K. Thanks.
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                               you couldn't handle a simple analogy without >trying to be a smart alec
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                                    Fine Tuning is just a Theory. What's yours?
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                                         "I ain't ask the joker to be a know it all". That sums you up completely...
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                                              RE: "I ain't ask the joker to be a know it all". That sums you up comple...
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                               I'm dying.
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                     except we have innumerable examples of cakes being made.
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                          I already explained the cake analogy
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                               ....and doubled down on the same false equivalency about atheists
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                                    There no misconception. You can't grasp concepts.
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                                         you converse in a way that suggests the use of a "system".
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      His point (I think) is: how can you disregard one thing, but accept anot...
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      Actually, the argument for God does not fail based on the merrit
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      the lack of a real answer to a question doesn't mean you get to make one...
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           I'll ask you then. Plain and straight up/
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                I literally answered this in the post you're replying to.
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                     No. You didn't give a clear response, which you never do when -
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                          quote, from me" "the intellectually honest answer is: he, I, you, we, do...
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with unlimited things to do in your day
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Hi my love. So good to see you again
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jesus christ, y'all don't have anything better to do?
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      They do not, not a damn thing better to do.
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Ok.. You shot your shot. Now answer this
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lol @ arguing with a physicist on this
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      Show me where I was arguing?
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           fascinating to watch
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                K
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I think it's funny that Einstein had a very take on this same subject.
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      A very *what* take? A very nuanced take?
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The Fine-Tuning of the Universe: What Does It Mean?
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lol
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this is embarrassing..
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So you think William Lane Craig believes in fairy tales?
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      Yes, thats exactly what we are saying.
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           Y´all mean lol, but honest
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           LOLOL
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           So, what's your theory on the creation of the universe?
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a possibility does not equal a fact
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Well that's Ryan Stringer's opinion. He's entitled to it.
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      can you refute his reasoning?
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Thanks Case
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for what? being a champion of ignorance?
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      Patron saint of poppycock over here.
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      Have we ever met?
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      Are you still working with people that hate you?
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           There's those strong Christian values at work.
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           he's improving. he used to take jabs at my childhood
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           Dude your childhood is not my concern.
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                LOL love this wholly unconvincing "who me ?!" act.
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                     There's no act. I don't care about his childhood.
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                          Yea you're a horrible person. Which is fitting considering your religion...
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                               Just because you keep saying like Trump doesn't make it true.
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                                    But your actions do.
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                                         Go on. Get it off your chest
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           I don't know if they have Christian values at his work.
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           right on cue with the personal attacks.
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                Stop plying the victim. It's not a good look.
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                     You must be incredibly lonely.
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                     Hardly. But, I'm working form home today,
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                     all of your questions are loaded with agendas and baggae
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                          ^^^sees it^^^
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                          I'm glad you brought his up. See my direct response.
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                               You are driven by two things and two things only
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                                    ARCHIVE THIS SKEWERING.
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                                    Dayum!
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                                    ARCHIVED!
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                          If you live though agenda lenses then you'll get what you want.
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                               How's that for projecting.
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                                    Positive thinking and Negative thinking affect ones perspective.
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                                         Reality helps, too.
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                                              That's true.
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God's 100!
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you're like a record label that buys half of it's own albums
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      Hahahaha. Or repugs buying all Trump Jr's books.
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