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Cold Truth
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"I can't front. I'm having a real hard time with Muslims about now."


  

          

My wife and I went to Wal-Mart yesterday during lunch and we saw two women in hijabs and I tensed the fuck up. The Wal-Mart is a short ride from the shooting. I wanted to leave there and then.

I've always been fairly reasonable on this subject but now that it's hitting me at home I can't help but feel anger toward "them" and not just the shooters. I recognize the myriad issues of logic but I can't shake it so far.

I didn't know any of the victims personally but they are and were my co-workers. I have friend who works with autistic kids from IRC. The shootout happened near my mother mother in laws home. The shooter lived near a friend. If it seems like I feel like that could have been me or friends or family, that's probably the truth. My wife and I are both civil servants. We don't have windows at our desk. Our guards are not armed. The victims are/were fellow SB county employees. This is close enough for my comfort, that's for damn sure.

We are San Bernardino County employees and we closed all but the most necessary services today and tomorrow. It was a relief to have the day off at first but now that I've had some time alone to reflect there's a lot more to sort through than I thought. I'm in Redlands at a cafe Rio and saw an Arab-looking man and actually wondered if he knew the shooter.

I have a friend who absolutely mistrust all Muslims and goes back to some fatwa from like 1918 as his proof. I've always been a counterpoint to his rants but today when he said this only confirmed his suspicions I said nothing. His daughter is the friend who lived near the shooter so I imagine that really added to his fears.

The truth is these fucks were terrorists, but no more than the fuck who shot up planned parenthood or Sandy hook or the Batman movie and yet I don't see a white face and fear him blowing me and my loved one's to bits. I fear him if he's a police officer, but that's another matter I suppose.

I don't think I'm in danger of falling into that anti-muslim hysteria but damn if I don't understand the sentiment a little better today.




  

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I can't front. I'm having a real hard time with Muslims about now. [View all] , Cold Truth, Thu Dec-03-15 02:05 PM
 
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I'm having trouble with white guys with guns
Dec 03rd 2015
1
Great addition. I was initially posting this to fb but changed my mind
Dec 03rd 2015
15
i just don't think your intent is hateful or bigoted
Dec 03rd 2015
21
I'm uncomfortable around guns, so this is true for me (for all races)
Dec 03rd 2015
18
      THANK YOU. I even don't fuck with the Brinks cats.
Dec 04th 2015
124
I'm from Philly, so I have a soft-spot for Black women wearing
Dec 03rd 2015
2
^
Dec 03rd 2015
6
i lived in Philly for 5 years...
Dec 03rd 2015
28
If you don't live in a diverse / dense enough area to be inoculated
Dec 03rd 2015
3
lol right...its no different from fear of blacks.
Dec 03rd 2015
7
but wouldn't it be better for someone to say or write
Dec 03rd 2015
16
      no that's fair
Dec 03rd 2015
22
I live in a muslim neighborhood in BK (I think)
Dec 03rd 2015
11
I mean my barber is Arab / Egyptian
Dec 03rd 2015
40
i lived on Cambridge Place and Fulton. right by the little square mosque
Dec 03rd 2015
41
yup. in my hood i regularly see women walking around
Dec 03rd 2015
20
beat that shit back. don't give in to it.
Dec 03rd 2015
4
^This and the fact that we would be next (to the extent we not first)
Dec 03rd 2015
14
^
Dec 03rd 2015
65
well said
Dec 03rd 2015
100
agree with all this. And props for being honest about it.
Dec 08th 2015
166
Mods. Don't delete this. Let's folks talk it through. Have faith we wil...
Dec 03rd 2015
5
agreed. moderate the convo on a per reply basis if need be
Dec 03rd 2015
9
I hope i didn't come across as bigoted. Frankly I'm surprised at myself.
Dec 03rd 2015
32
you didnt nm
Dec 03rd 2015
48
I hope i didn't come across as bigoted. Frankly I'm surprised at myself.
Dec 03rd 2015
33
THIS isn't THAT...
Dec 03rd 2015
56
      ^^^^^^^^
Dec 04th 2015
114
ive lived near rens of thousands of them my whole life
Dec 03rd 2015
8
^^Funny thing is, except for a few angry cab drivers, the muslim folks
Dec 03rd 2015
25
lmao @ except for the few cab drivers.
Dec 03rd 2015
29
I mean I get into it with Cab drivers, many of which whom are Muslim.
Dec 03rd 2015
39
      Lol i'm in nyc....i know what ya mean.
Dec 03rd 2015
77
man come to Detroit and see how some of these dudes stunt lol
Dec 03rd 2015
38
      I don't know why the pork eating is especially hilarious to me lol
Dec 03rd 2015
50
           cuz its fun? shiit cuz its tasty
Dec 03rd 2015
54
           in their case it was tremendous amounts of bacon lol
Dec 03rd 2015
58
yeah. After 9/11 I didn't KNOW I had slight fear issues with Islam
Dec 03rd 2015
37
      yep. spending time around regular ass ppl is the best medicine
Dec 03rd 2015
43
           "travel is fatal to prejudice" -Twain
Dec 03rd 2015
63
                i totally agree. i actually feel pretty lucky in that regard.
Dec 03rd 2015
69
                     RE: i totally agree. i actually feel pretty lucky in that regard.
Dec 03rd 2015
99
If you're Black .
Dec 03rd 2015
10
^^
Dec 03rd 2015
13
after 911, I kinda felt the opposite
Dec 03rd 2015
12
Sorry, only white dudes are allowed to go "Postal".
Dec 03rd 2015
17
^^
Dec 03rd 2015
23
if it was just him i would agree...
Dec 03rd 2015
36
      Re: white males -- the snake is already starting to eat it's own tail.
Dec 03rd 2015
49
I saw the other side of it right after 9/11
Dec 03rd 2015
19
damn
Dec 03rd 2015
26
Similar story with Punjabis
Dec 03rd 2015
44
thats sad to hear. the nonMuslim ppl in Dearborn didnt act that way.
Dec 03rd 2015
46
      IIRC there were attacks on Arab-Americans in Dearborn
Dec 03rd 2015
53
The news is pumping hate at us constantly with this stuff
Dec 03rd 2015
24
This post is going really well. Civil and not personal.
Dec 03rd 2015
27
There are two people who may come in on some fuckshit
Dec 03rd 2015
35
When it comes to life -- no one gets out alive.
Dec 03rd 2015
30
muslim is the new black
Dec 03rd 2015
31
It's enough to make me consider converting to Islam to make sure I have
Dec 03rd 2015
thats how i feel bout yt's except i'm not scared of them.
Dec 03rd 2015
34
i'm not
Dec 03rd 2015
42
I'm having a hard time with dysfunctional niggas and devilish white folk
Dec 03rd 2015
45
this is more like it
Dec 03rd 2015
47
      lol
Dec 03rd 2015
52
have no problem with muslims, only muslim extremists
Dec 03rd 2015
51
basically
Dec 03rd 2015
55
I don't think you have any basis for saying there are 10s of millions of...
Dec 03rd 2015
57
tens of millions just sounds like it might could be accurate
Dec 03rd 2015
59
I mean, take a second to think about America's armed forces
Dec 03rd 2015
64
extremists != terrorist
Dec 03rd 2015
62
I think the idea is if you have 5 dudes from Palestine do a suicide atta...
Dec 03rd 2015
67
      Yeah but dude if you polled how many Americans agreed with bombing
Dec 03rd 2015
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      boming cities with women and children is extreme
Dec 03rd 2015
73
      depends on *why* they answer. not how.
Dec 03rd 2015
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      I don't think those questions are perfect equivalencies.
Dec 03rd 2015
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           yo, sit down. lol
Dec 05th 2015
148
      yeah but Palestine is at war with an occupying force
Dec 03rd 2015
72
           word?
Dec 05th 2015
149
                uh...October 15th? here is an entire list if youre interested
Dec 08th 2015
172
a 2 state holy land would go a long way to clearing that up
Dec 03rd 2015
71
      ^^^^Obama's best move and possible legacy re foreign policy
Dec 03rd 2015
81
I'm having a real hard time dealing with far right white folks right now...
Dec 03rd 2015
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iont trust anyone that dont jaywalk...
Dec 03rd 2015
61
I can't front. I'm having a real hard time with this cop...
Dec 03rd 2015
66
I have a problem with extremists. Christian. Catholic. Muslim...
Dec 03rd 2015
70
thats non responsive to the topic at hand
Dec 03rd 2015
75
      Im in Toronto bruh. I see it all the time.
Dec 03rd 2015
78
No Muslims ever called me nigger
Dec 03rd 2015
74
mofo you live in the IE and scared of fkng muslims??
Dec 03rd 2015
76
it's like that out there? wow
Dec 03rd 2015
80
reason #1 why we refused to even consider IE
Dec 03rd 2015
83
What is IE?
Dec 03rd 2015
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      Inland Empire
Dec 03rd 2015
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      inland empire
Dec 03rd 2015
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      Inland Empire
Dec 03rd 2015
90
           shit sounds like a cool rock band
Dec 03rd 2015
92
San Bernardino is the second poorest coty of its size after Detroit.
Dec 03rd 2015
91
      if you go with the larger scope if IE...
Dec 03rd 2015
98
Lol. Look fucker I'm just sorting through some emotions in light of this
Dec 03rd 2015
87
how'd this one go?
Dec 03rd 2015
95
They made some threats. I got a few "personal" calls that seem...
Dec 03rd 2015
96
i know you seen it all..i dont think you have alot to worry about w/ mus...
Dec 03rd 2015
103
San Bernardino/Highland is WAAAYYY diff from the rest of the IE
Dec 05th 2015
151
      .....you forgot Riverside, Mo Val, Perris, Temecula, Hemet, San Jacinto
Dec 05th 2015
153
My opinion hasn't changed about them, I definitely dont tense up when I
Dec 03rd 2015
82
sounds like you struggling w/ the appearance. not the religion
Dec 03rd 2015
85
i don't fear terrorist attacks but i do fear our reaction to them
Dec 03rd 2015
89
yeahhhhhhh naw i can't relate....at all
Dec 03rd 2015
93
I would hope not lol
Dec 03rd 2015
94
Understandable. Most people are idiots. Why shouldn't you be?
Dec 03rd 2015
101
Pussy
Dec 03rd 2015
108
The wife looks white, is this the reason they arent showing her photo?
Dec 03rd 2015
102
word is she's Pakistani and he copped her in Saudi Arabia
Dec 03rd 2015
104
I hold a different view
Dec 03rd 2015
105
nah, they were radicalized...
Dec 03rd 2015
106
Not taking the media's word for it
Dec 04th 2015
110
they didnt have that huge ass arsenal because his co-workers were dicks
Dec 03rd 2015
109
      How do you know?
Dec 04th 2015
111
      all those weapons, and explosives because, work sucks?
Dec 04th 2015
116
           Here is my point
Dec 04th 2015
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                ok
Dec 04th 2015
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                When have we ever heard of a wife riding shotgun when shit went postal?
Dec 04th 2015
120
                     Questions for you...?
Dec 04th 2015
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                          oh, i agree with you about his job playing a part
Dec 04th 2015
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      why wouldn't they? The Colorado shooter had an arsenal.
Dec 04th 2015
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           Colorodo shooter is a terrorist. Not a pissed off employee
Dec 04th 2015
143
                Sandy hook shooter had plenty of guns too. So did the Columbine kids.
Dec 09th 2015
176
It doesn't help that you never see Muslim leaders condemning
Dec 03rd 2015
107
A simple google search shows such condemnations.
Dec 04th 2015
112
total bullshit.... the muslims dont respond shit is the lie that wont di...
Dec 04th 2015
119
hey if you're happy with the way muslims are represented
Dec 04th 2015
134
True. You never see it. Like, ever.
Dec 04th 2015
135
I hold you personally responsible for the actions of
Dec 04th 2015
140
I lived in Bahrain during the Arab Spring
Dec 04th 2015
113
One possibly significant detail about the workplace violence thing
Dec 04th 2015
115
Dude prolly used that 1750 to buy some of that gear
Dec 04th 2015
121
Just change Muslims for any other group and you'll see this is foolish
Dec 04th 2015
123
Watch me do it with Ndibs post.
Dec 04th 2015
125
yeah i mean i wasnt gonna take it there explicitly but ...
Dec 04th 2015
127
Damn, pretty much
Dec 04th 2015
129
Damn, pretty much
Dec 04th 2015
132
not the same, black leaders have been on tv since tv was invented
Dec 04th 2015
133
      It's exactly the same, and everything you said after that doesn't even m...
Dec 04th 2015
137
           hey if you want to be delusional you're allowed to believe that muslims...
Dec 04th 2015
138
                whore are these black leaders you're referring to?
Dec 08th 2015
161
Oh i know. I think the proximity just had me a little shook
Dec 04th 2015
126
      that's good, in the end it was only messing with you, not them anyway
Dec 04th 2015
147
      You seem like a good guy truth.
Dec 05th 2015
150
           Thanks. I appreciate the first three points a great deal.
Dec 07th 2015
159
Seeing the pics of the victims today in the NY Times got me fucked up
Dec 04th 2015
130
I appreciate the honesty and self examination.
Dec 04th 2015
136
Ok... so why is the news refusing to show her picture???
Dec 04th 2015
139
if she's part of a cell or whatever then counter intelligence maybe?
Dec 04th 2015
142
the photo i saw is a touch different (link)
Dec 04th 2015
146
she wore a burqa, not even her husband's brothers were allowed
Dec 05th 2015
152
So what. Not our problem. Fuck her and her rituals.
Dec 08th 2015
169
reportedly that's his brother
Dec 06th 2015
156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2tfhPCehnA
Dec 04th 2015
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Sounds like me and police.
Dec 04th 2015
144
well thats just sound policy in todays world.
Dec 04th 2015
145
Same here, except I'm far more comfortable mistrusting police
Dec 07th 2015
158
Wack copies but excellent episode on muslims in the US
Dec 06th 2015
154
I'm not a psychologist, but from the subject matter of your post,..
Dec 06th 2015
155
This is a very thoughtful response.
Dec 07th 2015
157
      My obsessive thoughts tended to involve racial or sexual labels
Dec 08th 2015
170
           Damn. That last line was pinloint accurate.
Dec 08th 2015
171
So another victim died. Turns out she's the sister of the
Dec 07th 2015
160
This hurts me bro
Dec 08th 2015
162
I hear you. I feel terrible if this post hurts you or anyone else.
Dec 08th 2015
165
      we have spoken off line, we good!
Dec 09th 2015
174
still waiting on my GATDAMN time machine.
Dec 08th 2015
163
This post is the worst
Dec 08th 2015
164
CONSPIRACY SISTA HERE...
Dec 08th 2015
167
No, FOH. ONE FUCKING PERSON REPORTED THAT.
Dec 08th 2015
168
oh jesus fucking christ
Dec 08th 2015
173
Alot of people desperately wanted to believe this was Colorado
Dec 09th 2015
175
      TO WHOM?
Dec 09th 2015
177
           Oh I think there are distinct camps here.
Dec 09th 2015
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