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46. "RE: that should be one of hip hop's essential questions"
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But if we ask that question aren't we involved in the academic pursuit of defining, quantifying, or at the very least studying hip hop, and if so, why not in schools as well?

I don't know. I don't see any difference between studying "The Passionate Shepherd" and the "Nymph's Reply," to studying the Takeover and the Ether. Each pair is incendiary poetry, it just so happens that the second pair is set to music.
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I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college [View all] , k_orr, Mon Jul-30-07 09:31 PM
 
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i wish hip-hop was taught for those 2 semesters I went to
Jul 30th 2007
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i could see hip-hop 101 being taught at CCAC
Aug 01st 2007
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once it becomes a college class.. its gotta be over...
Jul 30th 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 30th 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 31st 2007
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Wow, I dunno if I disagree or not.
Jul 30th 2007
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no one went where you're going
Jul 30th 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 30th 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 30th 2007
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uw-madison's first wave program
Jul 30th 2007
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and
Jul 30th 2007
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you're more positive about it than me
Jul 30th 2007
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      i don't think anyone's ever said that to me before
Jul 31st 2007
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How would you put it into proper context?
Jul 31st 2007
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i graduated b/4 that program started, but I was involved in the first th...
Aug 02nd 2007
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yea I love hiphop but I don't see it
Jul 30th 2007
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the aesthetics should be
Jul 30th 2007
12
i think i agree with this.
Aug 01st 2007
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eh, colleges r filled with electives that could be construed as bullshit
Jul 31st 2007
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It all has to do with the method...
Jul 31st 2007
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more thoughts
Jul 31st 2007
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RE: more thoughts
Jul 31st 2007
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      This is what's happened with a fair amount of older Black music
Jul 31st 2007
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      i agree with you, however
Aug 01st 2007
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           google australia, aborigines, children
Aug 01st 2007
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                'the stolen generation'
Aug 01st 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 31st 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 31st 2007
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it's a cash cow
Jul 31st 2007
32
i just took a class on witchcraft
Jul 31st 2007
18
Haha I did too back when I was in school
Jul 31st 2007
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Ta ta totally dude
Jul 31st 2007
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like totally dude (c) shop boyz
Jul 31st 2007
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what do they actually teach at these courses?
Jul 31st 2007
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takes many forms
Jul 31st 2007
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MUSIC history should be studied in college
Jul 31st 2007
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if any music should be studied in college, why not hip-hop?
Jul 31st 2007
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sure, i'll take your straw man - it's not music to me
Jul 31st 2007
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      that assertion is so ridiculous, i wouldn't waste my search function
Aug 01st 2007
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           *shrugs*, don't know what to tell you
Aug 01st 2007
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                terrible dodge. probably the worst you've ever typed
Aug 01st 2007
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                     killing em softly
Aug 01st 2007
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What are your specific objections?
Jul 31st 2007
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I'll go into it for a bit
Jul 31st 2007
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RE: What are your specific objections?
Jul 31st 2007
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      So what I'm confused about here is:
Jul 31st 2007
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           RE: So what I'm confused about here is:
Jul 31st 2007
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Ive taken a Hip Hop class
Jul 31st 2007
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cause clearly the only value in hip hop is as protest music
Jul 31st 2007
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no, but the shit should be taught
Jul 31st 2007
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I think it should be studied in HIST/AA Studies/Women's Studies etc.
Jul 31st 2007
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the mere idea that it is a global subculture = I find offensive
Jul 31st 2007
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      RE: the mere idea that it is a global subculture = I find offensive
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      that should be one of hip hop's essential questions
Jul 31st 2007
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                RE: that should be one of hip hop's essential questions
Jul 31st 2007
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                     As far as the question initially asked:
Jul 31st 2007
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                          if you're studying rap and focusing on lyrics
Jul 31st 2007
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                               if you think the academy will ever affect the direction of hip-hop...
Aug 01st 2007
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                               RE: if you're studying rap and focusing on lyrics
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      I think there's evidence to support it, for example in Cuba...
Aug 01st 2007
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           does doing the actions make it hip hop?
Aug 01st 2007
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                give a personal definition of hip-hop please
Oct 05th 2007
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Although I benefit professionally from it, I don't think it should..
Jul 31st 2007
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and I'd like to offer that in my upcoming book, lectures and..
Jul 31st 2007
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      How are you received by your "peers"
Jul 31st 2007
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           Peers, Shmeers
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Jul 31st 2007
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I read a few chapters @ B&N, didn't buy it
Jul 31st 2007
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I think it can be done, just no one's done it right as of yet
Jul 31st 2007
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the how to be an mc book - didn't he drop that as "science of rap"?
Jul 31st 2007
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it's just like any other college course
Jul 31st 2007
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cause that's what hip hop does
Aug 01st 2007
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      i stand behind it cuz
Aug 01st 2007
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Aug 01st 2007
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in any aspect what-so-ever.
Aug 01st 2007
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      RE: in any aspect what-so-ever.
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
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      Why do you act as though these two are mutually exclusive?
Aug 01st 2007
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           because he doesn't believe in a middle ground. lol.
Aug 01st 2007
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Uuuuummmm No, Juz Take A Mazz Communicationz Clazz
Aug 01st 2007
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when something becomes a university subject, its dead
Aug 01st 2007
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pop culture wise?
Aug 01st 2007
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      that is definitely "a" time to study it imo
Aug 01st 2007
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I think there is a lot of room in academia to study hip hop...
Aug 01st 2007
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RE: I think there is a lot of room in academia to study hip hop...
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      RE: I think there is a lot of room in academia to study hip hop...
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I totally disagree
Aug 01st 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
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      RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
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RE: This thread needs a recap...
Aug 01st 2007
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RE: This thread needs a recap...
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nice response
Aug 01st 2007
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other music developed 'schools' before academia got hold of them
Aug 01st 2007
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i agree, but only because i dislike HOW its studied...
Aug 01st 2007
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exactly..
Aug 01st 2007
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      that's not Torez's point, but it is an interesting one
Aug 01st 2007
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the study of the culture and history lends itself to revisionism
Aug 01st 2007
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that's always going to be an issue, cause you've prolly
Aug 01st 2007
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Also, in college, classes aren't always to teach you what's "right"...
Aug 01st 2007
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as i've said above
Aug 01st 2007
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      I've thought about it from this end too ..
Aug 01st 2007
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Hip hop can even be broken into various sub courses
Aug 01st 2007
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You might need to read his posts again
Aug 01st 2007
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      lol
Aug 01st 2007
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Good stuff everybody. not what I expected
Aug 02nd 2007
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Didnt an OKP's mom teach hip-hop in college or some shit?
Aug 02nd 2007
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polarbeartoenails or something
Aug 02nd 2007
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
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RE: I still don't think hip hop should be studied in college
Oct 05th 2007
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way back when this post was current...
Oct 06th 2007
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