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Cop Killer Controversy |
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May 28th 2009 | 1
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inspired the "Shock value sells records" era. |
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May 28th 2009 | 8
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I'd put that on Efil4zaggin myself... |
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May 28th 2009 | 11
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Ice Tracy had a REALLY cool analogy about this... |
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May 28th 2009 | 13
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pretty much... |
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May 28th 2009 | 23
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led to kmd getting dropped, and the eventual birth of doom |
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May 28th 2009 | 16
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*DING* |
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May 28th 2009 | 22
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yeah...funny how this led to the guns being pointed t/w peers. |
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May 28th 2009 | 32
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Big Media is able to tar *rap* music based on "heavy metal" |
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May 28th 2009 | 49
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SoundScan/Efil4zaggin |
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May 28th 2009 | 2
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officially killed the Billboard charts as we knew it. |
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May 28th 2009 | 10
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RE: SoundScan/Efil4zaggin |
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May 28th 2009 | 28
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the coolest thing to be in the whole wide world is a n***a... |
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May 28th 2009 | 31
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Realest shit ever posted. |
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May 28th 2009 | 86
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brought currrency to the idea that 80% of white kids buy rap |
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May 28th 2009 | 50
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*DING* |
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May 28th 2009 | 64
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From then on, a dope album wasn't enough anymore. |
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May 28th 2009 | 109
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The first example of major industry hype/buzz over actual material |
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May 29th 2009 | 178
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killed "the golden era" of hiphop |
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May 30th 2009 | 189
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You are correct, sir... |
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May 30th 2009 | 194
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Not really. |
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May 31st 2009 | 208
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will.i.am's production discography says otherwise.... |
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May 31st 2009 | 209
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Gilbert O'Sullivan vs. Biz Markie |
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May 28th 2009 | 3
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Sample clearance changes the production game forever. |
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May 28th 2009 | 14
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that works TWO ways though. |
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May 28th 2009 | 24
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But the musicians who played for James Brown |
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May 28th 2009 | 42
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yeah, they did... |
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May 28th 2009 | 96
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killled (and revived**) creativity in beatmaking. the 4 bar myth |
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May 30th 2009 | 199
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RE: Gilbert O'Sullivan vs. Biz Markie |
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May 28th 2009 | 18
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inadvertently makes some hip hop fans prefer small chops |
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May 28th 2009 | 51
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RE: Gilbert O'Sullivan vs. Biz Markie |
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May 28th 2009 | 71
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The Chronic/Doggystyle |
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May 28th 2009 | 4
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The sun rises in the West and sets in the East... New York salty. |
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May 28th 2009 | 15
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also the reason why Illmatic was deemed a classic |
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May 28th 2009 | 17
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When I look through my old issues of The Source from 93/94 |
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May 28th 2009 | 44
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Dre made the whole East Coast smack their foreheads with G Thang. |
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May 28th 2009 | 112
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LMAO. |
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May 29th 2009 | 173
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ends the east coast/sample heavy beat hegemony |
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May 28th 2009 | 52
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RE: The Chronic/Doggystyle |
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May 28th 2009 | 72
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Enter The 36 Chambers |
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May 28th 2009 | 5
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Inspired the 'Movement' phase in lots of groups. |
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May 28th 2009 | 20
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the beginning of NY's Keep It Real era... |
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May 28th 2009 | 26
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I kinda think Das Efx and Black Moon were more responsible for that |
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May 28th 2009 | 47
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agreed |
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May 28th 2009 | 73
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I'd replace Black moon with Onyx in that statement |
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May 28th 2009 | 79
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Wu-Tang put the stamp on it...they crossed over to the mainstream |
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May 28th 2009 | 80
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Didn't Das EFX go plat? |
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May 28th 2009 | 98
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yup...and the follow up may have gone gold |
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May 28th 2009 | 100
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Bacdafucup is certified double platinum. |
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May 28th 2009 | 110
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very true... |
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May 28th 2009 | 111
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Not really, All We Got Iz Us went Gold.... |
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May 28th 2009 | 113
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RE: Not really, All We Got Iz Us went Gold.... |
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May 29th 2009 | 153
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it also took "using a Crew name as a Brand" to the next level. |
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May 28th 2009 | 27
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Would you guys say that ... |
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May 28th 2009 | 38
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what do YOU think? |
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May 28th 2009 | 43
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I would think so. |
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May 28th 2009 | 59
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continues PE style iconography |
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May 28th 2009 | 53
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the crew/solo deals thing was huge... |
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May 28th 2009 | 97
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RE: Enter The 36 Chambers |
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May 28th 2009 | 76
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Puffy/Ready To Die |
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May 28th 2009 | 6
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'ready to die' led to puffy's rise as an influential public figure |
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May 28th 2009 | 21
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Ready To Die is STILL the blueprint for modern hip-hop albums |
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May 28th 2009 | 29
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very true |
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May 28th 2009 | 33
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it was pac's formula originally though |
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May 28th 2009 | 34
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i don't know |
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May 28th 2009 | 35
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that was a point of contention between pac & biggie |
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May 28th 2009 | 39
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so you're basing this purely on 2pac's mid-beef words? |
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May 28th 2009 | 45
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i'm basin' it on his music |
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May 28th 2009 | 48
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RE: i'm basin' it on his music |
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May 28th 2009 | 118
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^^forgot pac shot two cops and raped a broad before me against the world |
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May 28th 2009 | 126
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RE: ^^truth |
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May 29th 2009 | 145
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RE: ^^forgot pac shot two cops and raped a broad before me against the w... |
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Jun 01st 2009 | 210
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^^^^voted against me in the soundclash w/o listenin' |
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Jun 01st 2009 | 212
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you didn't know about 2pacolypse now? |
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May 31st 2009 | 206
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no. it wasnt. |
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May 28th 2009 | 36
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^^^revisionist |
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May 28th 2009 | 40
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I say that "Life After Death" is the blueprint for modern hip hop albums... |
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May 30th 2009 | 183
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I would like to also add this co-opted "conscious" rap. |
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May 30th 2009 | 192
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East Coast caves into the West by featuring more R&B |
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May 28th 2009 | 54
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I saw it as caving in by tryna outgangster the West... |
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May 28th 2009 | 63
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I've never seen anyone stretch their 15 minutes like Puff did... |
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May 28th 2009 | 136
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Tupac/Thug Life |
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May 28th 2009 | 7
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led to the recent death of dolla |
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May 28th 2009 | 30
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destroys braggadocio and moves hip hop lyricism to "truth telling" |
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May 28th 2009 | 56
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RE: destroys braggadocio and moves hip hop lyricism to "truth telling" |
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May 28th 2009 | 119
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rappers as sex symbols |
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May 30th 2009 | 190
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And Lil Wayne is one of the biggest beneficiaries of that. |
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May 30th 2009 | 191
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BINGO |
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May 30th 2009 | 193
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RE: rappers as sex symbols |
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May 30th 2009 | 200
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morseso "unrefined' or "thug" rappers as sex symbols.... |
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May 30th 2009 | 202
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50 Cent vs. Ja Rule/GRODT |
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May 28th 2009 | 9
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this one is two fold... |
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May 28th 2009 | 12
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The pimping of Black dysfunction... |
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May 28th 2009 | 19
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that 21st century minstrel |
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May 28th 2009 | 25
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Really? I thought it was called marketing...learn something new |
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May 28th 2009 | 90
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RE: Really? I thought it was called marketing...learn something new |
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May 28th 2009 | 120
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So I guess Denzel was cooning in "Training Day" too huh? |
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May 29th 2009 | 164
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which role did he win an oscar for, again? |
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May 30th 2009 | 201
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RE: So I guess Denzel was cooning in "Training Day" too huh? |
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Jun 01st 2009 | 211
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RE: The pimping of Black dysfunction... |
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May 28th 2009 | 121
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Black men lost. |
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May 29th 2009 | 177
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big budget beef/the final capitulation of the East Coast |
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May 28th 2009 | 57
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RE: 50 Cent vs. Ja Rule/GRODT |
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May 28th 2009 | 74
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Birthed manufactured beefs |
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May 28th 2009 | 142
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50 Cent took the mixtape away from DJs and gave it to MCs... |
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May 30th 2009 | 197
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And that is why he is a legend. |
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May 30th 2009 | 203
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Forgot one: The Death of Biggie/The Rise of Jay-Z |
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May 28th 2009 | 37
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led to the dispute of kingship |
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May 28th 2009 | 41
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*DING* (c) Scorpion |
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May 28th 2009 | 108
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i covered the death of biggie in another reply |
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May 28th 2009 | 55
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Sellign crack for fun and for profit.... |
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May 28th 2009 | 61
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could you say this about cuban linx? |
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May 28th 2009 | 77
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it did come first... |
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May 28th 2009 | 89
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agree on cuban linx |
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May 28th 2009 | 92
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Jay used this present tense, too.... |
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May 28th 2009 | 95
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You actually right. |
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May 29th 2009 | 182
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WOW... |
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May 28th 2009 | 91
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haha he was being sarcastic... |
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May 28th 2009 | 140
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Also, why's this guy acting like Reasonable Doubt took over the world.. |
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May 31st 2009 | 207
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It lead to the laying of the foundation for "swagger" rap |
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May 29th 2009 | 174
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not to hate but half of these events dont seem all that 'modern'. |
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May 28th 2009 | 46
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but they all shaped 'modern' hip hop, no? |
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May 28th 2009 | 58
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yeah |
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May 28th 2009 | 62
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then dont read the post. |
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May 28th 2009 | 65
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great answer. |
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May 28th 2009 | 66
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modern would include 3 Stack's record and Kanye |
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May 28th 2009 | 60
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how is 2 Live crew not in this post? |
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May 28th 2009 | 67
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Arguably the Body Count era covers them |
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May 28th 2009 | 68
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2 Live Crew escaped unscathed after their obscenity trial... |
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May 28th 2009 | 69
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and as ridiculous as it sounds, I actually GAINED respect for them. |
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May 28th 2009 | 85
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It was the People vs. Larry Flint of hip hop. |
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May 28th 2009 | 93
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The Source/Almighty RSO faisco of 1994 |
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May 28th 2009 | 70
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RE: The Source/Almighty RSO faisco of 1994 |
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May 28th 2009 | 75
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a certain female journalist thwarted hip-hop journalism... |
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May 28th 2009 | 82
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RE: a certain female journalist thwarted hip-hop journalism... |
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May 28th 2009 | 94
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Soledad O'Brien isn't poppin it off with Ahmadinejad |
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May 29th 2009 | 148
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dreeeeeam onnnnn, dreeeeam awaaaay (c) color me badd |
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May 28th 2009 | 99
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*replies to this in all lower case letters* |
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May 28th 2009 | 104
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showed the world that you can buy props. |
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May 28th 2009 | 81
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they bought SOURCE love....the people didnt fall for it, tho... |
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May 28th 2009 | 83
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It iddn't work for RSO, but it worked for others |
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May 28th 2009 | 84
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I pays for it like the mics in The Source (C) Jay Dilla |
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May 28th 2009 | 87
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The MixTape Boom |
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May 28th 2009 | 78
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mixtapes used to be a source of having songs... |
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May 28th 2009 | 88
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That's too general, it goes back to one person....DJ Clue. |
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May 28th 2009 | 114
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there are 2 kinds of important mixtapes |
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May 28th 2009 | 115
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#2 evolved from #1 tho. |
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May 28th 2009 | 117
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true indeed, but #1 been happening |
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May 28th 2009 | 122
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Very true, I listen to more "mixtapes" than albums these days. |
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May 28th 2009 | 123
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see 50 Cent |
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May 30th 2009 | 196
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swizz beats making synthesizer beats the sound of NY |
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May 28th 2009 | 101
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Isn't he from Atlanta? |
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May 28th 2009 | 106
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he lived there for a while |
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May 28th 2009 | 124
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kanye taking backpack rap to the mainstream |
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May 28th 2009 | 102
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RE: actually I'd give Kweli and Pharoahe Monch more credit for that. |
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May 28th 2009 | 107
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such as? |
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May 28th 2009 | 125
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Naw, at first Kanye was Backpack Rap for Dummies |
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May 28th 2009 | 116
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so that'd make Ye the smartest of all them. |
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May 28th 2009 | 132
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nah. maybe the most commercially accesible. |
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May 28th 2009 | 135
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kanye becoming the popular notion of what backpack rap is |
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May 28th 2009 | 105
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Ultimately, Ye didn't really have much of an effect on backpack rap |
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May 28th 2009 | 143
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Where does Master P, Cash Money Millionaires, and Lil Jon fit in? |
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May 28th 2009 | 127
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The Geto Boys and 2 Live Crew are REAL mad at you... |
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May 28th 2009 | 128
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Master P or Lil Jon aint done nothin in a minute. |
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May 28th 2009 | 131
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fair enough, but here's what I'm saying. |
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May 28th 2009 | 134
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They opened the door for the South in general, we talkin modern tho. |
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May 28th 2009 | 137
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The enshrinement of the concept of 'hip-hop as hustle' |
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May 29th 2009 | 155
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BULLS-EYE |
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May 30th 2009 | 184
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good post scorp |
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May 28th 2009 | 129
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thanks, man |
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May 28th 2009 | 130
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ARCHIVE this restores my faith back in the Lesson |
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May 28th 2009 | 133
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non-issues? things that didn't affect the evolution |
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May 28th 2009 | 138
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All the stuff that folks scream will "kill hip-hop." |
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May 28th 2009 | 141
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Rawkus records |
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May 28th 2009 | 144
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This is a great post. Definite archive. |
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May 28th 2009 | 139
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Takeover/Ether |
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May 29th 2009 | 146
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1991 - BIZ MARKIE "I NEED A HAIRCUT" (ALONE AGAIN SAMPLE LAWSUIT) |
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May 29th 2009 | 147
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#3. |
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May 29th 2009 | 152
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shit, lol |
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May 30th 2009 | 187
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Also, IMO, his best album...by about 2 laps |
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May 29th 2009 | 179
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production wise it might be my favorite.. beats were raw as hell... |
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May 30th 2009 | 188
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The Jungle Brothers & Ultramagnetic MCs Bringing The Weirdness In Rap |
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May 29th 2009 | 149
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I thought the new cat in the JBs was named Torcha or something like that... |
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May 29th 2009 | 157
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Torture Was One Of His Aliases As Well |
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May 29th 2009 | 170
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timbaland |
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May 29th 2009 | 150
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I'm trying to remember when T&A videos started becoming the norm. |
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May 29th 2009 | 151
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sidepost: my boys were in New York once, |
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May 29th 2009 | 154
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Ha... What year did this happen? |
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May 29th 2009 | 156
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around 96 or 97 |
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May 29th 2009 | 165
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I would say Hype's golden era ia prolly when this happened... |
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May 29th 2009 | 158
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Yeah, Hype brought the Video Hoefessional to the game.... |
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May 29th 2009 | 176
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are you taumbout Misa Hilton-Brim?....Puff's ex... |
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May 29th 2009 | 159
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Not Misa |
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May 29th 2009 | 161
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When folks accused Tip of being gay. |
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May 29th 2009 | 160
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I'm gonna say 2 Live Crew's "Pop That Coochie" |
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May 29th 2009 | 166
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That wasn't the norm, though... and it didn't create a trend. |
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May 29th 2009 | 167
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you dont think Holla Holla was it? |
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May 29th 2009 | 168
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It might have been. |
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May 29th 2009 | 169
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2 Live Crew 'Move Something' |
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May 29th 2009 | 181
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Blondie |
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May 29th 2009 | 162
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is it relevant to modern history, or just the history of hip hop? |
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May 29th 2009 | 163
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I maintain Puff's remix of Jodeci's "Come and Talk to Me"... |
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May 29th 2009 | 171
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can't speak on evolution w/o death taking place... |
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May 29th 2009 | 172
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BIG has been discussed |
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May 30th 2009 | 186
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D.O.C.'s accident |
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May 30th 2009 | 195
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Canibus's failure to deliver "that" album. |
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May 29th 2009 | 175
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Good one. |
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May 30th 2009 | 185
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Professor Griff's ousting from Public Enemy.... |
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May 29th 2009 | 180
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you and The Doc might be the only ones in this boat |
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May 30th 2009 | 198
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Naw, I'm with both of yall on Griff's solo contributions. They were dope |
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May 30th 2009 | 204
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young dummys get in here and read this shit.. |
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May 31st 2009 | 205
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^^^ |
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Jun 23rd 2009 | 213
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