Who do you want your team to draft?

Who is a sleeper prospect?

Who is going to be a bust?

Your team and your post are officially on the clock…

his play-style has a lot of improv and while that can lead to big plays, the downsides will be magnified in the NFL

mainly do not like his pocket presence; he is a drifter and will fade out of good protection

I agree with your assessment. I’ve seen a lot of Cam Ward due to Cal being in the same conference as him for the last 3 seasons, first at WSU and then at Miami.

He will drift away and break the pocket for no reason at all. He has a tendency to try to make plays and has a bad habit of throwing across the field which leads to big interceptions and pick 6s.

He benefits from this being such a terrible QB draft class and overall a very weak draft in general.

the way he moves around

i just wish he wasn't on the Titans.

But would be happy with Hunter as well.

Wouldn’t be mad at trading down either, if the return is in our favor.

we've traded down when the last few blue chips were left on the board in 2021 and it led to Toney and then Evan Neal. you take the stud!

now... moving up for Dart... we'll see but i'm not holding my breath

I don’t think they are booing the man because they mean it. It is fake hate and performative at this point.

>

fans always think they should be doing more to improve the league and theyre not wrong

But it is a good trade. I wouldn’t take a QB in this draft but having two 1s next season sets you up nicely to get Arch Manning.

Also, as far as track records go... Would you bet against a QB from this family?

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seems they don't want to deal with him or his pops.

Little do they know.....

he looks like the Terminator and moves like someone half his size, but 2 career sacks against SEC teams (37 games) is absolutely crazy

cincy went for it

he's not *elite* elite but to fall to the second round is surprising

not in love with trading up for Dart or any QB to be honest.

Schoen gets extra draft picks and they burn holes in his pocket. they gave a 5th and 7th just to move up 1 spot to take deonte banks...

and i dont want to hear about how the rams traded back. are we supposed to believe Mcvay is some QB whisperer? he's developed no one.

everyone will be gone even if we dont see him play this year lol

Nearly 50 years of not drafting a LB in the 1st round. Thats gotta be a record.

Assuming there’s no injury concerns, that’s great value for Jihaad Campbell - as he was projected by most as a top 20 pick. He’s got the build and athleticism to play the edge or off ball. He should be an outstanding complement to Baun and Dean. With the loss of Oren Burke and Dean’s injury, this is great insurance for the LB. It’s truly amazing how much Howie’s philosophy on LB quality/depth changed with Fangio on board. Guys like Baun, Dean, and Burks were truly difference makers in our back 7 last year and the front office is now committed to the position. I like it.

On defense, I’d still like to go for a quality strong safety, CB depth, DT, and a DE/edge.

Offensively, we need to draft a high quality TE if the team is intent on moving Dallas Goedert (which is one of the more strange situations they’ve had in a minute).

Plenty of players went undrafted. I've never seen analysts obsess over the "mistreatment" of someone like this. They must really want Deion to keep being their friend.

then complain about the mistreatment

all those talking heads are loving this shit

i wonder how much Deion paid him

but for what tho? For having a famous father? For being confident?

His numbers are good if not great and he has no scandal / behavioral issues.

What they really mad at?

Tuimoloau is Kwitty Paye 2.0 -- high work-rate edge with power and hands but lacks the counters, bend and explosiveness to be anything more than an OK starter

guess that is less grievous with the 45th pick though (and no trade up), I didn't watch enough guys to have another edge preference

Starks is one of the few blue chips

and mike green would've been a top pick if he wasn't such a sexual assaulter

they still have 6 more picks after that. There's nothing to lose at this point. Let him sit behind Geno and see how it plays out

re: shedeur

who possibly can't throw, went before Sanders.

I blame this on Shedeurs rap bars.

i wouldn't of minded double dipping day 3 just to get him in camp and see what he can do at any position.

he's the fastest guy on the field. think Tebow on Meth lol

who has kiper had ranked top 10 that fell into the 3rd day. can't answer it. this is insane and I didn't think he was a first rounder but damn

The reports about him being on his phone answering facetime calls during meetings with teams gotta be true. Something had to have happened for no team to want to touch him

to me, mean that the NFL owners are making a point to Deion that he won't be controlling shit at this level with his son

because Dillon Gabriel is like 5'10 and has no arm

in the giants case, during private meetings with Daboll going over a new package, preparation was bad, Daboll called him out on not being prepared or whatever and Shedeur got defensive and it got ugly. Possibly the same sort of thing happened with another top 10 picking team(browns? saints?). could be bullshit.

I think Jay Glazer said something to the effect that since NIL is popping now teams are trying to get a feel if prospects even love football. Kind of like what people said about Josh Rosen pre-NIL.

if this is True, Deion Sanders may have manufactured such hype for his non-freakish athlete kids that it should be commended.

goes to Jackson State, lights it up against HBCUs, goes to Colorado goes 13-12 and gets shellacked by a arguably better BYU team. this all somehow equals 5th best player on mel Kiper's board?

don't get me wrong, there's cism somewhere right? but the honkey's that have gone high in other drafts, remove the daniel jones's, usually had some sort of elite trait. he's extremely vanilla, takes sacks.

he'll go tomorrow, someone will take a flyer in the 4th. he'll be fine lol

Sanders threw for 37 TD’s with a subpar OL and no running game last year.

daniel jones took less sacks at duke than sanders did at colorado.

he's dr claw's problem now lol

and he’s started 12 games in the NFL.

The bar isn’t real high. Sanders is probably better than DeVito, the 26 year old from Louisville who played in 7 college seasons and finished one of them, and the 5’10 kid from Oregon, to name a few.

He’s probably a Day 2 talent who some thought would go Day 1 because it’s a weak QB draft, and whose stock dropped because he botched how he handled everything pre draft.

Devito will also be running a sandwich shop off the golden state parkway soon lol

Sanders was handed both his spots because his daddy was coach. he turned down bigger schools to commit to FAU because he knew the coach then ran to jackson st once deion got the job.

and their passing game carried the load.

It is what it is….he’s probably a 2nd/3rd round talent who got picked in the 5th round because he’s a potential pain in the ass.

nm

Tyler Shough's injured self over Shedeur is wild.

Dillon Gabriel over Shedeur is even crazier considering his arm talent. AB better fix this tomorrow.

Jalen Milroe was a reach too.

This the goddamn NFL

And it didn’t work.

>Tyler Shough's injured self over Shedeur is wild.
>
>Dillon Gabriel over Shedeur is even crazier considering his
>arm talent. AB better fix this tomorrow.
>
>Jalen Milroe was a reach too.

https://youtu.be/8VKtThN8A80

>https://youtu.be/8VKtThN8A80

along with the Browns picking Dillon Gabriel, who wont even be on the opening day roster. I'll bet 100 on it.

that guy sucks too, he's no mariota or even as good as jeremiah masoli was.



The SECOND Shadeur and Deion said theyre going to control where he goes in the NFL draft, about 2 years ago...I immediately said that will NOT end well...

NFL GMs are PETTY vindictive asshole nerds and the majority of them never even played the game, and are ego driven corporate sharks.

add the fact that Deion hasnt slammed the door shut on coaching his son at the next level, and you have every head coach in the league paranoid for their job safety...

they played this horribly

>The SECOND Shadeur and Deion said theyre going to control
>where he goes in the NFL draft, about 2 years ago...I
>immediately said that will NOT end well...

Maybe the issue is in announcing it ahead of time?

I'm not sure. This shit just looks like the uppity negro treatment - and in a league that is majority Black players.... What is you doing baby?

Ohio State was the only school to have four players selected in the first round of the 2025 NFL draft as wide receiver Emeka Egbuka (No. 19 overall, Tampa Bay Buccaneers), guard Donovan Jackson (No. 24 overall, Minnesota Vikings), defensive tackle Tyleik Williams (No. 28 overall, Detroit Lions) and offensive tackle Josh Simmons (No. 32 overall, Kansas City Chiefs) were all among the draft’s first 32 picks.


And lol at Deion’s kid

shadeur refused to work out for teams and was rude to scouts and GMs

no one wants to deal w Deion

And Will Howard is 10x better

It is what it is

>Ohio State was the only school to have four players selected
>in the first round of the 2025 NFL draft as wide receiver
>Emeka Egbuka (No. 19 overall, Tampa Bay Buccaneers), guard
>Donovan Jackson (No. 24 overall, Minnesota Vikings), defensive
>tackle Tyleik Williams (No. 28 overall, Detroit Lions) and
>offensive tackle Josh Simmons (No. 32 overall, Kansas City
>Chiefs) were all among the draft’s first 32 picks.


but worked out ok in the end

He does it ALL.

>>Ohio State was the only school to have four players
>selected
>>in the first round of the 2025 NFL draft as wide receiver
>>Emeka Egbuka (No. 19 overall, Tampa Bay Buccaneers), guard
>>Donovan Jackson (No. 24 overall, Minnesota Vikings),
>defensive
>>tackle Tyleik Williams (No. 28 overall, Detroit Lions) and
>>offensive tackle Josh Simmons (No. 32 overall, Kansas City
>>Chiefs) were all among the draft’s first 32 picks.
>
>
>but worked out ok in the end

He gives me strong "Theo Riddick in Detroit" vibes. If hes a quick study on pass blocking (i bet he is) hes gonna be a player on day 1

Admittedly, I haven't watched a minute of non-Duke college football in years, so I'm completely unfamiliar with him other than he's Deion's son-- but I'm seeing a bajillion tweets about him right now.

I see people insisting it's collusion, either race-related, Deion-related, or both.

I see people insisting he's more of a backup QB talent, so by sitting out the combine and being brash in interviews, GMs don't want to bother. Which I remember being a discussion once Tebow was in the league and clearly a backup, that no one wanted the hassle and attention that comes with an insanely famous and polarizing guy as your QB2.

But presumably Sanders has more NFL QB talent than Tebow-- and I see consensus that worse QBs are going ahead of him, so clearly *something* is amiss.

I just wonder what the people on this board think (in particular Will), since trying to actually get an even-handed read on anything sports-related is impossible on social media these days.

he was never in a competition to earn reps.

he doesn't have a rocket arm, he can't move in the pocket and takes a lot of sacks regardless of his OL talent or the opposing dlines talent.

if his name was Shedeur Anderson we wouldn't be talking about him.

if he was Shadeur Anderson he would’ve been top 10 and the second QB taken.

Archie Manning is prolly the highest rated QB in 2026 right now and he has 2 starts at Texas. Its simply due to his last name.

Not saying Sanders is the next Mahommes but he clearly got screwed over due to his last name and his dad’s reputation for being unapologetic about his son’s talent.

Sanders threw 37 TD’s last year
Tyler Shough threw 37 TD’s the last 3 years.. COMBINED!!

they threw a bunch of screens at colorado and he took a bunch of sacks.

David Carr level sack taking when he could've let it fly and lowered his completion percentage.

they retired his number and he's winless in bowl games, he didn't work out at combines or senior bowls/shrine bowls. I'm sorry but who the fuck does he think he is? lol

Arch is "ranked" for 2026 but he's not coming out. bank on it.

I'm not saying Shough is better either, nor dillon. but those guys moved around and earned spots.

if he's going to be any good he's in the right place to figure it out. stefanski's offense is perfect for him.

but I have a feeling he is going to be the future and we will still be looking for a QB the next few years.

at EVERYTHING lol

and actually earned it without his egomaniac daddy gagging him with a silver spoon

and winless in bowl games? What?

It was COLORADO

why are you acting like the Buffs were legit before he arrived and he tanked the team?

and while I'm not comparing him to Mahommes, check Mahommes stats, he usually leads the league in passes behind the LOS because Andy Reid loves screens. Buffs OL sucked so screens were the best way to slow down the pass rush.

Georgia? LSU? or the other list of top programs?(which he had scholarship offers to)

he went to Jackson St. and then shitty rape allegations colorado lol

some players just want to play instead of sitting behind guys and waiting 2 years.

I wish more Black talent would go to HBCU’s.

Ok, he said Utah. But same thing.

I can’t imagine why anyone would voluntarily go to Alabama or Louisiana, other than money.

>> other than money.

bingo. money buys you comfort.

these schools have great football facilities, a tradition of churning out pros, and vast alumni bases to network from / milk for every single penny and dollar


Joe Schmoe , the kicker / WR/ DB/ whatever could never play a single snap in the NFL, but being a household name in baton rouge, tuscaloosa, ann arbor, happy valley, austin, columbus whatever for 4 years, and the handful of impactful plays you make / made vs Auburn back whenever turns you such a local hometown hero that you can sell insurance or cars or whatever side hobby and have a blindly loyal customer base in that town for the rest of your life to make a living off of

the old days of sitting behind a QB for 3 years in hopes of getting that shot are gone.

guys hop around looking for money and guaranteed insurance.

and real talk, I don’t blame Deion one but for using nepotism the same way the NFL and NCAA has been doing with white coaches and players.

The issue is Deion said the quiet part out loud

Last year Kyle McCord came to Cuse and led the country in passing yards and won 10 games.

Now this year we got LSU and ND’s backups battling it out for the starting spot - both solid recruits but couldn’t win the jobs at those schools. But rather than sitting there, one of them will start for Cuse. For 2 decades, Cuse could never recruit QBs like that because the football factories would all have about 4 of them waiting their turn to battle it out.

What’s he need to go to Bama for? Or LSU? The game is the game, if you’re good enough you’ll get to the NFL anyway. He led Colorado to probably their best season since the 90s, and it’s “yeah but why didn’t he go to Bama?” Cmon.

and competitive and wants to play against the best because you're a psycho like that?

who the fuck gets there number retired after a 9-4 season with a bowl loss?

>who the fuck gets there number retired after a 9-4 season with
>a bowl loss?

and dont they usually do it at least several years after the player left?

like what was the rush with this? did they expedite getting that number up there cause they knew he was about to tank in the draft? or did deion want to make sure it happened before he left for another program? the whole family is embarrassing.

same with Rashaan Salaam


>>who the fuck gets there number retired after a 9-4 season
>with
>>a bowl loss?
>
>and dont they usually do it at least several years after the
>player left?
>
>like what was the rush with this? did they expedite getting
>that number up there cause they knew he was about to tank in
>the draft? or did deion want to make sure it happened before
>he left for another program? the whole family is
>embarrassing.

>What’s he need to go to Bama for? Or LSU? The game is
>the game, if you’re good enough you’ll get to the NFL
>anyway. He led Colorado to probably their best season since
>the 90s, and it’s “yeah but why didn’t he go to Bama?”
> Cmon.


Bama and LSU are light years beyond Syracuse or Colorado for football development

It’s not even deniable

and Ohio State’s QB went in the 6th round..

and Ewers went in the 7th

no one gives a fuck where you go to school these days.

>and Ohio State’s QB went in the 6th round..
>
>and Ewers went in the 7th
>
>no one gives a fuck where you go to school these days.
>
>

Yeah, one big effect of this is that I think more kids are choosing to transfer to a Syracuse type school to start, rather than wait for their turn that may or may not ever come at an Ohio State type school. You ride the bench for 2 years there and then it’s about to be your turn, and they get someone better to transfer in and start.

Maybe they do have better player development there too, I don’t know….but that doesn’t matter to guys who aren’t ever going to get on the field there.

this isn’t the 90’s anymore.

Sure, Bama and LSU are factories but these days you can go damn near anywhere and get to the league if you got the tape.

and let’s not forget.. Colorado was getting a shit ton of eyeballs last year due to Deion.

>Sure, Bama and LSU are factories but these days you can go
>damn near anywhere and get to the league if you got the tape.

if you're a coming out of high school as an elite qb (was shadeur a top recruit? i dont even know) with offers from everywhere and you choose to go to FAU or some low level school then I'm side-eyeing that. a 5 star qb should want to play against the best in the biggest games and under the brightest lights.

but I guess going to Bama or Texas and waiting your turn is more impressive

just goes to show how some cling to outdated views.

>but I guess going to Bama or Texas and waiting your turn is
>more impressive
>
>just goes to show how some cling to outdated views.


as a fan / alumnus of a football powerhouse that CHURNS out pro prospects at a rate that very few other schools do, i dont buy your argument

the *odds* of an OSU/LSU/Alabama/Texas/whatever etc product making it in the nfl are far better than those of University of Wyoming (but once in a while a Josh Allen breaks through), because the level of competition is that much better

some schools are much better platforms to making it to the NFL than others

this isnt some new development.

and he/they didn’t humble themselves and hold their hat in hand.

it's not completely talent issue. seems more related to the potential circus that could come with him and his dad.

he didn't help himself by apparently bombing in a few interviews with various teams. not everybody was put off but that became the narrative.

other things to note. he's only ever played for his father. along with his brashness, makes me wonder if folks think he's uncoachable.

it's probably better that he got drafted so low and by cleveland. he should have a chance to prove himself. they also drafted Dillon Gabriel in a previous round, so it'll be interesting to see who makes the team.

and he is being punished for it.

his resume, ability and profile is absolutely that of a first round pick

but it's already a lot to ask an organization to take a QB that carries himself w/ the demeanor and persona of a wide receiver.

to flat out come out and say certain teams shouldnt even bother talking to him. then allegedly showing no humility or malleability in interviews. the league colluded to punish him for how he treated the process.

>to flat out come out and say certain teams shouldnt even
>bother talking to him. then allegedly showing no humility or
>malleability in interviews. the league colluded to punish him
>for how he treated the process.

him openly saying that his visits are for him to interview the franchise, not the other way around, is crazy talk

physical traits are not elite and he plays a lot of hero ball, but he also had zero running game and his skills are all at the baseline for an average NFL QB.

fourth round was solely due to him thinking he was above the league. "brash" is too nice a word for a guy who mocked scouts, stopped interviews with NFL coaches to take personal Facetime calls and told teams what they need to do if they want the honor of taking him.

disregard the owners' opinion and take out any racial component -- the NFL draft process is still built around scouts who spend 80% of their lives alone on the road, and personnel departments that spend thousands of hours watching tape. Sanders is not good enough to give all of them the middle finger. the fact nobody has gone to bat for him (despite them all wanting to win, and doing everything they can to clear criminals so they can draft them) shows how much he disrespected the process.

is there 'CISM involved? A bit. I'll get to that later.

The main thing is that Shedeur is one of the first football players to enter the NFL from the new current landscape of college athletics. Unlike the period before NIL, players were expected to "play the game". But now the paradigm has shifted: the laborers (players) are seeing themselves less as cogs in a machine, but controllers of their own destiny. Shedeur whether it s being done deliberately or not, is rewriting the script.


Now if the reports of him blowing off the traditional process and being a dick because of this are true? Then yeah. That's on him. I personally believe that there was a bit of collusion among QB-needy teams skipping him on purpose (the teams involved: Giants, Saints, Raiders, and until pick 94, the Browns) to not take him in the first 2 rounds. It extended to the 5th round for him. Tyler Shough (a QB who played back up to Justin Herbert at Oregon), Jaxson Dart (RPO Will Levis IMO), Jalen Milroe (a QB whose skillset gets routinely shat on yearly), and Dillon Gabriel (Hawaiian Tebow) were not better prospects.

There are some flaws to his game to be sure; IMO this year is 2016 redux: the Goff/Wentz draft. He's Goff, and Cam Ward is Wentz.

But he should not have dropped this far.

Where the 'CISM factors in, is only certain folks are allowed to be dicks about their draft position. Deion famously had a tweet around the time Cleveland was in their 1-31 period, threatening to "Manning" and "Elway" his childrens' draft path.

The thing is, a lot of the "fears" about what Deion will or won't do are over blown. He has a job. He won't have time to meddle. Anything from this point is about Shedeur and what he does.

If you can't beat out Temu Tua, old ass Flacco, and Super Bowl Champion Jabroni Kenny Pickett... then you just might be ass.

when talking about Abdul Carter mentioned "at no point did Abdul mention his brand"

felt that had to be directed to Sanders.

theres also some fake screenshot thesis floating around with fake info that he would sit in interviews with music playing on his headphones around his neck lol. only time will tell

that's it, the whole "brand" thing. that's new for college athletes. Shedeur is ahead of the pack with that. Perhaps too ahead.

I suspect that athletes like Nico Iamaleava, Arch Manning and the like who are getting that NIL money now, building a self-contained "brand" and all... may also be looked at carefully by these execs.

IMO, it reminds me of Baker Mayfield. Before he did anything in the league, he was in national TV commercials and all. Meanwhile, I don't remember seeing Mahomes and other Chiefs in commercials until after the Super Bowls.

"throw the kids some money" to "the NIL is changing sports and its not good" really fast lol

they will give you a deal..

its a bidness.. lol

Giants are doing their thing if Cam Skatebo is any good.

Carter 1.1 player
Dart
Darius Alexander huge need
Cam Skattebo mighty whitey

i want Marcus Mbow here in the 5th...

and we got him!

the Giants actually cooked. They got their guys across the board.

Vrabel not trying to pry him from NY made sense

Jihaad Campbell AND Andrew Mukuba fell to the Eagles? rest of the draft pretty don't even matter. They cooked off those two. Only the Ravens got that lucky.

They picked Kyle McCord, lol. OK. Whatever.


Browns were on a good run:

2 - traded to 5, got 5, 36, 2026 1st
5- Mason Graham (better for the Browns than Abdul IMO)
33 - Carson Schwesinger - off ball LB, lowkey steal, complementary to Graham, fortifies middle of defense
36 - Quinshon Judkins - GREAT pick, 3 down back, what the Browns were missing last season
67 - Harold Fannin Jr - STEAL. Great pick.
94 - Dillon Gabriel - BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! of all the QBs you could have picked, this jabroni? Too short, too stubby, and FUCK THEM STATS... and to think this was the guy who both Stefanski and Berry were excited for?
124 - Dylan Sampson - another good pick... hopefully this means both Ford and Strong get the BOOT
144 - Shedeur Fucking Sanders. LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! whatever the case: the Eagles threatening to pick him, or Haslam basically telling motherfuckers you ain't restarting this with another mid-ass undersized QB... PRAISE THE LORD. Now the QB search is getting on a better start.

Flip the Sanders/Gabriel picks and this is A+. But maybe picking Dillon first is going to push Sanders (who I think was the best pick at QB for the Browns if they couldn't get Ward)

not gonna lie, the Steelers cooked too: Harmon, Johnson, and not just any 2 Buckeyes, but the heroes of the Natty (Will Howard, Jack Sawyer).

Texans: also cooked. A whole lot of WRs for CJ.

Titans: also cooked. Got Ward some weapons to start.

Lowkey like what the Jets did too.

or even just a middling CB or WR whatever the fuck they do with him the browns made out like bandits.

Graham won me when ohio state and michigan were fighting and he left mid interview to join the pepper spray fray.
Schwesinger i heard may be the best cover LB in this draft.
Fannin showed out at the senior bowl practices

also you know Jack Sawyer is just going to be a great Vanilla White guy DE in pittsburgh.

now the Colts have three quarterbacks who would get beat in the Dr. Pepper football toss

man really wants to fulfill our dreams and get fired this season

.

next to the Browns, possibly one of the more WTF QB rooms in the league

i think Cleveland stole something here. i dont pay enough attention to know what the OL is like, and they need receiver help, but Shedeur in the 6th is at least 4 rounds worth of excess value, and Mason Graham's floor is some guys' ceiling.

JJ would have absolutely been #1 in this draft btw.

>JJ would have absolutely been #1 in this draft btw.

to Shedeur Sanders. First…if you had told me, with no other context, that the person who did that was named Jax…I wouldn’t have batted an eye. Secondly…his dad needs to be fired, because why in the name of Pete Hegseth did his kid have access to Sanders’ private number, anyway?

The people trashing Shadeur for his pre draft antics better not be laughing at this.

Very good question on how the kid got ahold of the number.

Shedeur describes "his brand" in pre-draft meetings, Ulbricht kid fishing for lulz on the internet

both seem to have got got just for acting like jagoffs though they arrived at their humbling moments in different ways

glass half full take - both Sheduer and Ulbricht are immature , put energy into things that don't matter, and will learn from their mistakes.

just put your fucking phone down some time

Tebow, Manziel, Zion Williamson…these were college stalwarts with baked in brands. Their teams drafted them happy to Inherit the brand because there was personality and talent there too. As we’ve learned, Shedeur’s personality was poor and his talent is average … an established brand can’t overcome those underwhelming traits.

So then until he proves otherwise what is he? An influencer in a helmet. Again, less internet for these kids would do them wonders.

and I’m willing to bet Sanders has a more productive and longer career than both of those guys.

and what has Sanders done online that was so bad?

when i first heard this story im thinking the kid was maybe 15 or so and i could see it

.

and the sanders drama

>“The Giants one, they give players an install, and there are mistakes intentionally put in the install. He didn’t catch them and got called on it… He was pissed that they did that to him.” - Albert Breer of SI on 98.5 The Sports Hub.

being mad you failed a test is not a good look. I'm sure other teams did something similar