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2812534, CFB 2024 Offseason - NSD, Portal, Coaching Carousel Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Dec-04-24 12:12 PM
Signing day is upon us, coaches are being fired (incl UM OC Kirk Campbell), and players are looking for new homes
ive seen some folks around the internet wishcasting Haynes King into the portal, but that seems doubtful. we are on the rise, and this is absolutely HIS team with 2000 rushing yards and 1500 rec yards coming back with him.
he would be QB1 in the portal, but that title falls now to Miller Moss until John Mateer declares his intentions. beyond that, Kaiden Salter and Thomas Castellanos are other notables. Cade McNamara too, but for a different reason.
on the coaching front, Mack Brown is out at UNC, Gus Malzahn left UCF to be Auburn's OC, Purdue fired Ryan Walters, and WVU fired Neal Brown. WVU is giving up a high floor to raise their ceiling...we shall see. This list is guaranteed to grow over the next 4-6 weeks.
Definitely returning are Dave Aranda (Baylor), Billy Napier (UF) who sat straight up like the Undertaker this month, Sam Pittman (Arkansas), and Rhett Lashlee (SMU) who wasnt on any sort of hot seat but has been boosted and extended.
One final retention, which seems almost like active sabotage by a school who may want to eliminate their football program, is Trent Dilfer returning to UAB. I guess an optimistic view is that there is nothing else to burn down so nowhere to go but up!
Finally, signing day. who tf knows. Michigan got Nathaniel Marshall to reflip back, so it might be that kind of day. 5⭐ OT Ty Haywood is expected to end up somewhere other than Alabama, and fellow 5⭐ OT David Sanders is casting a wandering eye towards Columbus.
off we go!
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2812535, GT with the #2 recruiting class in the ACC at the moment Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Dec-04-24 12:20 PM
one big flip in, and one big Miami flip out, and the unthinkable could happen
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2812539, never sure what a teenager will do, but Posted by will_5198, Wed Dec-04-24 12:51 PM
I think Tennessee holds on to Sanders
the fact he didn't go back to Columbus for the Michigan game is a good sign
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2812543, mightve been better for you if he had 😏 Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Dec-04-24 01:49 PM
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2812569, signed with Tennessee Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-05-24 06:26 PM
elite offensive linemen are always at a premium, would've sucked to lose him in the final hours
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2812570, hes the only other guy besides Bryce Underwood... Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-05-24 07:09 PM
ive seen mentioned as someone's #1 overall
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2812540, also where is Haynes King going to go Posted by will_5198, Wed Dec-04-24 01:11 PM
yeah there is always more money somewhere, but he means more to Georgia Tech and vice versa
maybe if Buster left, I could see it
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2812542, nowhere, but people saw him Friday and started lustng Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Dec-04-24 01:48 PM
i think there is an outdated idea of where Tech's program is right today, AND...im not sure there is more money elsewhere.
while allowing that a significant percentage dont give a shit about sports, GT has a donor class that represents major major money, and Key has them fired up.
thats partly why im cautiously optimistic about Buster staying. we can afford to give him a big bump. plus, if he was gonna go, why now? this coming year is what the previous 2 have been building towards, and he wont be coaching a better offense than Tech next year, bc those offenses havent fired their coordinators.
hes also southern as shit and has spent exactly one year of his career north of tennessee...in kentucky.
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2812552, Jackson Arnold to the transfer portal Posted by will_5198, Wed Dec-04-24 11:13 PM
guarantee he will be another 5-star project a coach wastes a season on
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2812558, only 2 years of eligibility left Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-05-24 08:34 AM
and with no real development to speak of, $1 says he ends up at FSU
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2812553, Lanning locking up back-to-back top 4 classes Posted by will_5198, Wed Dec-04-24 11:17 PM
5 stars from Texas, Florida, Maryland and Alabama
West Coast Georgia outlook, recruiting-wise
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2812568, phil knight promising offord his own sneaker Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Dec-05-24 06:06 PM
sounds like some old pervert casting couch shit
but ya, there's a limit to how much credit I'm gonna give to lanning for this
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2812595, man, fuck Oregon. Posted by PROMO, Fri Dec-06-24 12:08 PM
like, i get it, the game is the game. but with daddy Phil at the helm, they shouldn't get CREDIT for shit.
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2812560, Jordan Young on why he decommitted from Clemson: Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-05-24 11:58 AM
and this is a direct quote...
"Their recruiting class wasn't that good at Clemson."
ouch 😂
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2812572, Belichick inquiring about UNC job? Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-05-24 08:02 PM
lmao
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2812574, Bryce Underwood's recruitment saga ( WSJ link+swipe) Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-05-24 08:35 PM
tl;dr Oracle dude is whipped, and has decided to stay in his wifes...good graces...by being a Michigan booster
Bryce's dad says LSU + UM made approximately equal NIL offers
unnamed source says both collectives offered less than LSU's rumored $1.5M
my Catholic Central Shamrocks did their part by ending Belleville's season before the state finals, which are played the Fri+Sat after thanksgiving
the real X-factor was becoming Tom Bradys BFF
https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/michigan-recruiting-larry-ellison-bryce-underwood-842d2c9a?st=UGiePN&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga
Why did Larry Ellison—a man with no known ties to Michigan—help the Wolverines land the nation’s No. 1 quarterback? The answer lies with a 33-year-old woman named Keren Zhu.
by Rachel Bachman
When the University of Michigan football team’s boosters announced on Nov. 21 that they had flipped the No. 1 high school quarterback in the country from Louisiana State to Ann Arbor, it sent shock waves through the sport.
The on-field implications were only a part of the surprise. Just as stunning was how the Wolverines had pulled it off: with the help of a surprise donation from the world’s fourth-richest man, tech billionaire Larry Ellison. The strangest part was that Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, had no known connection to the school.
Scroll to continue with content But in recent days, it has emerged that Ellison does have a close, previously unknown link to Michigan after all. Out of nowhere, a statement from a Michigan booster group known as the Champions Circle singled out Ellison and Jolin, whom the group identified as his wife, as key players in the school’s pursuit of Bryce Underwood, the top-rated high-school quarterback in the country.
That statement appeared to reveal that Ellison, who divorced his fourth wife more than a decade ago, had remarried. Jolin, meanwhile, had almost no online presence.
Now, a Wall Street Journal investigation has found that Jolin is a 33-year-old also known as Keren Zhu, according to two people familiar with the couple and several public records. And most importantly, she happens to be a Michigan alum.
Keren Zhu, also known as Jolin Zhu, was awarded a bachelor of arts degree in International Studies from Michigan on April 26, 2012, the school confirmed.
Three years earlier, a Keren Zhu with the same birth date graduated with a two-year liberal arts degree from Bard College at Simon’s Rock, a tiny school in Great Barrington, Mass.
A Keren Zhu with that birth date also appears in a property record at an address owned by Octopus Holdings, a company owned by Ellison.
Larry Ellison and Jolin didn’t answer requests for comment and representatives at Oracle didn’t comment.
The mystery surrounding Jolin’s identity was the biggest twist in a recruiting saga that ranks among the wildest in recent memory, even by the already absurd standards of college football. It also drew in NFL legend Tom Brady and the disgraced former team staffer at the center of the sign-stealing controversy that overshadowed Michigan’s 2023 national championship. And all of it happened to burst into the open just as unranked Michigan was preparing for the biggest game of its season—Saturday’s stunning upset of No. 2 Ohio State.
“I want to personally thank Larry and his wife Jolin who were instrumental in making this happen,” Nate Forbes, chairman of the Champions Circle booster collective, said in the statement.
A coup of this scale was a rare cause for celebration in what had been a frustrating season for the defending national champions. Underwood, a five-star, 6-foot-4 quarterback from nearby Belleville High School, had been committed to LSU since January after Tigers boosters had promised him a sizable payout under new rules that allow college players to be paid for their name, image, and likeness.
Michigan, a bastion of college tradition, had been slow to embrace the sport’s new highest-bidder era. (Archrival Ohio State had no such trepidation, confirming that its 2024 football roster was getting $20 million.)
That changed when it emerged that Michigan had a deep-pocketed booster that fans hadn’t been aware of. Larry Ellison and Jolin began supporting Michigan’s collective “long before” the recruitment of Underwood heated up in recent weeks, according to a person familiar with the matter.
With Ellison on board, Michigan decided to re-up its interest in the player who seemed born to quarterback the Wolverines. In early September, following a loss to Texas, people close to the Michigan program began a full-court press to land Underwood.
First, he heard from coaches. Then, Michigan football’s general manager, Sean Magee, invited Bryce and his father, Jay, to join a videoconference. Also on the line were Ellison and Jolin.
In the Zoom call, the billionaire recounted his upbringing on the South Side of Chicago. He told Underwood that his birthplace didn’t determine his station in life, so long as he worked hard and made sacrifices. Jolin spoke about her time as a Michigan student and her desire to put the Wolverines back on top.
“It wasn’t really a pitch,” Jay Underwood said.
The Underwoods were a little surprised to discover that Ellison—who attended Illinois and the University of Chicago, but didn’t graduate—was now pulling for Michigan.
“I guess happy wife, happy life,” Jay Underwood said.
But soon the Underwood family found themselves talking to a much more famous Wolverine. A few days afterward, Bryce was in the car with his parents when his phone rang with a FaceTime call.
“Dad, it’s Tom,” he told his father.
‘Tom who?’ Jay Underwood replied.
“Tom Brady.”
“Well, s—t, answer the phone, son!”
The former Michigan quarterback and seven-time Super Bowl champion talked up his alma mater and offered words of encouragement to the teen.
The calls with Brady escalated to three or four times per week, often before school. “That was another incentive—to be able to have the opportunity to talk to one of the greatest of all time on the daily, whenever you feel like giving him a call,” Jay Underwood said.
Meanwhile, Michigan fans started showing up at Belleville High School football games on Friday nights with signs urging Underwood to “Go Blue.”
“I think, personally, it had a big impact with Bryce,” Belleville head coach Calvin Norman says.
As if Underwood’s recruitment wasn’t already weird enough, the most notorious character of the 2023 college football season then entered the picture. In late October, Connor Stalions—the former Michigan analyst who is under investigation by the NCAA for sign-stealing—joined the Belleville High football staff as a volunteer to help the offense.
Although Norman and Jay Underwood said that Stalions didn’t give his quarterback the hard sell on Michigan, the two of them posed for a photo that made waves on social media.
Still, it was all beginning to add up. And by November, Champions Circle broached the topic that is reshaping college football. The collective started discussing dollar amounts with the Underwoods. Jay Underwood said that the money offered by LSU and Michigan was “pretty much even.”
LSU’s offer was widely reported to be $1.5 million per season, though in reality neither school’s collective offered as much as that, according to a person familiar with Underwood’s recruitment.
When Underwood took a late visit to Baton Rouge in November, it appeared that LSU was back in the driver’s seat.
But it wasn’t until Belleville’s season ended with a loss in the playoffs that the Underwoods finally had a chance to reflect and discuss their son’s future. In a heart-to-heart with Bryce, his parents encouraged him to reconsider Michigan.
“It’s about the community,” Jay said, “being able to play at home.”
The money didn’t hurt, either. In addition to the amount he receives directly from the Michigan collective, Underwood will also be able to cash in with individual endorsement deals. Altogether, Jay Underwood said he expected his son’s earnings to exceed $15 million during his Michigan career.
The program’s stumbles this season didn’t deter the Underwoods. Bryce is expected to sign a letter of intent to go to Michigan on Wednesday and join the team for practices later this month.
“We see that Michigan is under construction,” Jay said. “And we don’t mind jumping into that.”
—Ryan Felton, Jim Oberman and Elisa Cho contributed to this article.
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2812593, And STILL undefeated 🌮... Posted by Frank Mackey, Fri Dec-06-24 11:17 AM
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2812674, Cant wait until some Saudi prince's 4th wife is a Purdue alum Posted by guru0509, Sun Dec-08-24 09:47 AM
this a slippery ass slope lol
>tl;dr >Oracle dude is whipped, and has decided to stay in his >wifes...good graces...by being a Michigan booster > >Bryce's dad says LSU + UM made approximately equal NIL offers > >unnamed source says both collectives offered less than LSU's >rumored $1.5M > >my Catholic Central Shamrocks did their part by ending >Belleville's season before the state finals, which are played >the Fri+Sat after thanksgiving > >the real X-factor was becoming Tom Bradys BFF > >https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/michigan-recruiting-larry-ellison-bryce-underwood-842d2c9a?st=UGiePN&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink > >The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s >Wildest Recruiting Saga > >Why did Larry Ellison—a man with no known ties to >Michigan—help the Wolverines land the nation’s No. 1 >quarterback? The answer lies with a 33-year-old woman named >Keren Zhu. > >by Rachel Bachman > >When the University of Michigan football team’s boosters >announced on Nov. 21 that they had flipped the No. 1 high >school quarterback in the country from Louisiana State to Ann >Arbor, it sent shock waves through the sport. > >The on-field implications were only a part of the surprise. >Just as stunning was how the Wolverines had pulled it off: >with the help of a surprise donation from the world’s >fourth-richest man, tech billionaire Larry Ellison. The >strangest part was that Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, had >no known connection to the school. > >Scroll to continue with content >But in recent days, it has emerged that Ellison does have a >close, previously unknown link to Michigan after all. Out of >nowhere, a statement from a Michigan booster group known as >the Champions Circle singled out Ellison and Jolin, whom the >group identified as his wife, as key players in the school’s >pursuit of Bryce Underwood, the top-rated high-school >quarterback in the country. > >That statement appeared to reveal that Ellison, who divorced >his fourth wife more than a decade ago, had remarried. Jolin, >meanwhile, had almost no online presence. > >Now, a Wall Street Journal investigation has found that Jolin >is a 33-year-old also known as Keren Zhu, according to two >people familiar with the couple and several public records. >And most importantly, she happens to be a Michigan alum. > >Keren Zhu, also known as Jolin Zhu, was awarded a bachelor of >arts degree in International Studies from Michigan on April >26, 2012, the school confirmed. > >Three years earlier, a Keren Zhu with the same birth date >graduated with a two-year liberal arts degree from Bard >College at Simon’s Rock, a tiny school in Great Barrington, >Mass. > >A Keren Zhu with that birth date also appears in a property >record at an address owned by Octopus Holdings, a company >owned by Ellison. > >Larry Ellison and Jolin didn’t answer requests for comment >and representatives at Oracle didn’t comment. > >The mystery surrounding Jolin’s identity was the biggest >twist in a recruiting saga that ranks among the wildest in >recent memory, even by the already absurd standards of college >football. It also drew in NFL legend Tom Brady and the >disgraced former team staffer at the center of the >sign-stealing controversy that overshadowed Michigan’s 2023 >national championship. And all of it happened to burst into >the open just as unranked Michigan was preparing for the >biggest game of its season—Saturday’s stunning upset of >No. 2 Ohio State. > >“I want to personally thank Larry and his wife Jolin who >were instrumental in making this happen,” Nate Forbes, >chairman of the Champions Circle booster collective, said in >the statement. > >A coup of this scale was a rare cause for celebration in what >had been a frustrating season for the defending national >champions. Underwood, a five-star, 6-foot-4 quarterback from >nearby Belleville High School, had been committed to LSU since >January after Tigers boosters had promised him a sizable >payout under new rules that allow college players to be paid >for their name, image, and likeness. > >Michigan, a bastion of college tradition, had been slow to >embrace the sport’s new highest-bidder era. (Archrival Ohio >State had no such trepidation, confirming that its 2024 >football roster was getting $20 million.) > >That changed when it emerged that Michigan had a deep-pocketed >booster that fans hadn’t been aware of. Larry Ellison and >Jolin began supporting Michigan’s collective “long >before” the recruitment of Underwood heated up in recent >weeks, according to a person familiar with the matter. > >With Ellison on board, Michigan decided to re-up its interest >in the player who seemed born to quarterback the Wolverines. >In early September, following a loss to Texas, people close to >the Michigan program began a full-court press to land >Underwood. > >First, he heard from coaches. Then, Michigan football’s >general manager, Sean Magee, invited Bryce and his father, >Jay, to join a videoconference. Also on the line were Ellison >and Jolin. > >In the Zoom call, the billionaire recounted his upbringing on >the South Side of Chicago. He told Underwood that his >birthplace didn’t determine his station in life, so long as >he worked hard and made sacrifices. Jolin spoke about her time >as a Michigan student and her desire to put the Wolverines >back on top. > >“It wasn’t really a pitch,” Jay Underwood said. > >The Underwoods were a little surprised to discover that >Ellison—who attended Illinois and the University of Chicago, >but didn’t graduate—was now pulling for Michigan. > >“I guess happy wife, happy life,” Jay Underwood said. > >But soon the Underwood family found themselves talking to a >much more famous Wolverine. A few days afterward, Bryce was in >the car with his parents when his phone rang with a FaceTime >call. > >“Dad, it’s Tom,” he told his father. > >‘Tom who?’ Jay Underwood replied. > >“Tom Brady.” > >“Well, s—t, answer the phone, son!” > >The former Michigan quarterback and seven-time Super Bowl >champion talked up his alma mater and offered words of >encouragement to the teen. > >The calls with Brady escalated to three or four times per >week, often before school. “That was another incentive—to >be able to have the opportunity to talk to one of the greatest >of all time on the daily, whenever you feel like giving him a >call,” Jay Underwood said. > >Meanwhile, Michigan fans started showing up at Belleville High >School football games on Friday nights with signs urging >Underwood to “Go Blue.” > >“I think, personally, it had a big impact with Bryce,” >Belleville head coach Calvin Norman says. > >As if Underwood’s recruitment wasn’t already weird enough, >the most notorious character of the 2023 college football >season then entered the picture. In late October, Connor >Stalions—the former Michigan analyst who is under >investigation by the NCAA for sign-stealing—joined the >Belleville High football staff as a volunteer to help the >offense. > >Although Norman and Jay Underwood said that Stalions didn’t >give his quarterback the hard sell on Michigan, the two of >them posed for a photo that made waves on social media. > >Still, it was all beginning to add up. And by November, >Champions Circle broached the topic that is reshaping college >football. The collective started discussing dollar amounts >with the Underwoods. Jay Underwood said that the money offered >by LSU and Michigan was “pretty much even.” > >LSU’s offer was widely reported to be $1.5 million per >season, though in reality neither school’s collective >offered as much as that, according to a person familiar with >Underwood’s recruitment. > >When Underwood took a late visit to Baton Rouge in November, >it appeared that LSU was back in the driver’s seat. > >But it wasn’t until Belleville’s season ended with a loss >in the playoffs that the Underwoods finally had a chance to >reflect and discuss their son’s future. In a heart-to-heart >with Bryce, his parents encouraged him to reconsider >Michigan. > >“It’s about the community,” Jay said, “being able to >play at home.” > >The money didn’t hurt, either. In addition to the amount he >receives directly from the Michigan collective, Underwood will >also be able to cash in with individual endorsement deals. >Altogether, Jay Underwood said he expected his son’s >earnings to exceed $15 million during his Michigan career. > >The program’s stumbles this season didn’t deter the >Underwoods. Bryce is expected to sign a letter of intent to go >to Michigan on Wednesday and join the team for practices later >this month. > >“We see that Michigan is under construction,” Jay said. >“And we don’t mind jumping into that.” > >—Ryan Felton, Jim Oberman and Elisa Cho contributed to this >article. > >
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2812689, A slightly similar note Posted by Ceej, Sun Dec-08-24 02:01 PM
How close are we to an Influecer paying to play ?? Similar to what’s happening soccer
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2812741, Barry Odom to Purdue Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Dec-09-24 11:08 AM
the status of Brennan Marion is unknown
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2812773, Chapel Bill Posted by Ceej, Tue Dec-10-24 12:37 PM
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2812775, I guess this is happening, and we're gonna lose our DC. Posted by PROMO, Tue Dec-10-24 02:51 PM
That could be a plus or minus i suppose, but i yearn for consistency.
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2812776, Guaranteed HC in waiting Posted by Ceej, Tue Dec-10-24 02:57 PM
Nepotism is alive and well
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2812777, thank God Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Dec-10-24 03:13 PM
for a second i was nervous they were gonna wise up and hire Jeff Monken, who i do NOT want in either the ACC or Big 10
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2812799, i aint mad at it. it's more interesting than anything else we've done since Butch Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Dec-11-24 08:42 PM
and a lot of the stuff Butch did back then to get us talent is legal now so i think this can work if Beli puts a good apparatus in place
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2812794, Brian Hartline interviewing for WVU job, huge loss for Ryan day if he accepts Posted by guru0509, Wed Dec-11-24 04:53 PM
>Signing day is upon us, coaches are being fired (incl UM OC >Kirk Campbell), and players are looking for new homes > >ive seen some folks around the internet wishcasting Haynes >King into the portal, but that seems doubtful. we are on the >rise, and this is absolutely HIS team with 2000 rushing yards >and 1500 rec yards coming back with him. > >he would be QB1 in the portal, but that title falls now to >Miller Moss until John Mateer declares his intentions. beyond >that, Kaiden Salter and Thomas Castellanos are other notables. > Cade McNamara too, but for a different reason. > >on the coaching front, Mack Brown is out at UNC, Gus Malzahn >left UCF to be Auburn's OC, Purdue fired Ryan Walters, and WVU >fired Neal Brown. WVU is giving up a high floor to raise >their ceiling...we shall see. This list is guaranteed to grow >over the next 4-6 weeks. > >Definitely returning are Dave Aranda (Baylor), Billy Napier >(UF) who sat straight up like the Undertaker this month, Sam >Pittman (Arkansas), and Rhett Lashlee (SMU) who wasnt on any >sort of hot seat but has been boosted and extended. > >One final retention, which seems almost like active sabotage >by a school who may want to eliminate their football program, >is Trent Dilfer returning to UAB. I guess an optimistic view >is that there is nothing else to burn down so nowhere to go >but up! > >Finally, signing day. who tf knows. Michigan got Nathaniel >Marshall to reflip back, so it might be that kind of day. >5⭐ OT Ty Haywood is expected to end up somewhere other than >Alabama, and fellow 5⭐ OT David Sanders is casting a >wandering eye towards Columbus. > >off we go!
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2812802, NVM, return of Rich Rod...hope he does well nm Posted by guru0509, Wed Dec-11-24 10:52 PM
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2812803, I like that Posted by Ceej, Thu Dec-12-24 10:07 AM
While I really wanted him here at the time, he just wasnt a good fit. Never didnt like him.
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2812809, that 1 bad loss to Pitt spooked him to leave WVU, shoulda stayed Posted by guru0509, Thu Dec-12-24 04:28 PM
>While I really wanted him here at the time, he just wasnt a >good fit. Never didnt like him.
he had them on the rise, and they were fun as hell to watch
in the big ten he didnt emphasize defensive recruiting enough but clearly an innovative and creative offensive playcaller
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2812827, it was deeper than that Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Dec-13-24 08:59 AM
he took over at WVU from Don Nehlen, who he played for and had a close relationship with. Don Nehlen was a prominent branch of Bo's coaching tree.
which made it all the more shameful the way the old guard at Michigan treated him, bc they never would have done any of that if Bo had still been alive
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2813239, True , but he should have never left Posted by guru0509, Mon Dec-30-24 12:52 PM
He didn’t have the defensive acumen to survive the big 10 ( which had more parity back then , albeit not much )
>he took over at WVU from Don Nehlen, who he played for and >had a close relationship with. Don Nehlen was a prominent >branch of Bo's coaching tree. > >which made it all the more shameful the way the old guard at >Michigan treated him, bc they never would have done any of >that if Bo had still been alive
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2812826, Michigan hires Chip Lindsey as OC Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Dec-13-24 08:53 AM
good hire, no complaints
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2812909, Air Noland in the portal Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Dec-17-24 02:30 PM
and im having trouble tampering my hopes for a homecoming
he was on campus quite a few times before his star-making performance at our camp propelled him to a higher tier of suitors, but we've come up in the world since then
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2813154, South Carolina....annoying Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-26-24 06:36 PM
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2813164, a little odd with Sellers only being a freshman Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-26-24 07:50 PM
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2813168, i assume everybody believes he's only playing one more year Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-26-24 08:42 PM
which is also a little mystifying
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2813153, Desean Jackson taking over Delaware St Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-26-24 06:35 PM
after one year as OC at Long Beach Wilson HS
oooookay
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2813176, The Prime time effect!!! Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-27-24 10:58 AM
Love seeing my brothas finally get these fast track opportunities
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2813190, Tennessee losing 5 receivers in one portal cycle Posted by will_5198, Sat Dec-28-24 09:50 AM
this may be like the secondary last year, when Heupel was recruiting over the current starters (notice how Tennessee got better in the secondary despite all the preseason chatter they lost 5 starters). a lot of these guys couldn't get open against elite defenses.
but the bigger issue is Heupel's offense being figured out. Ohio State saying after the game they recognized looks and knew plays pre-snap based on tape from 2021 and 2022 is concerning. nobody is scared of their 12 personnel because it does not create explosives -- Arkansas said they wanted to make Tennessee play with two tight ends and forced them into that package.
Heupel publicly blames "execution" for the offensive stagnation against better defenses but it is clear he needs a more serious self scout and fundamental changes.
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2813191, man i remember those first two years Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Dec-28-24 11:21 AM
guys running wild in the secondary with no one even close. then over the last year and a half it just...went away.
i think squirrel white is a very good slot receiver, but the rest of those guys are just guys if they arent getting schemed open on skinny posts.
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2813520, Jaden Rashada trying to convince another program he's good Posted by will_5198, Sun Jan-05-25 03:24 PM
he's made a lot of money for someone who can't play P4 football
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2813683, Carson Beck in the portal Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Jan-09-25 04:44 PM
wow
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2813685, He figured he could make more in NIL than a 6th round pick Posted by calij81, Thu Jan-09-25 05:13 PM
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2813694, definitely bag chasing Posted by will_5198, Thu Jan-09-25 08:51 PM
he won't be healthy before the draft and Georgia is not going to give him the same big NIL deal he got in 2024
there will be buyer's remorse unless you have a bunch of NFL players on your team he can easily distribute to while playing with a lead
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2813729, Miami is giving him the Cocaine Cowboys bag Posted by calij81, Fri Jan-10-25 04:32 PM
Supposedly he is getting $2 million.
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2813807, well, he always looks high so Miami makes sense Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Jan-11-25 10:29 AM
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2813740, LSU's top WR Kyren Lacy wanted for negligent homicide Posted by will_5198, Fri Jan-10-25 08:22 PM
for a hit and run
he was crossing a double yellow to overtake other cars, one car swerved to avoid hitting him head on and ended up hitting another car in the opposite lane
passenger in one of the cars was killed
Lacy raced away from the scene and declared for the draft two days later
you couldn't invent a much bigger piece of shit
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2813791, Go directly to jail…no NFL Posted by Dstl1, Fri Jan-10-25 11:26 PM
.
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2813967, bury him UNDER the prison Posted by guru0509, Wed Jan-15-25 05:27 PM
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2813793, he seemed like a dummy w/ his shotgun celly antics Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jan-10-25 11:41 PM
but this surpasses my expectations of him
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2815522, RIP: Posted by dillinjah, Sun Apr-13-25 12:55 PM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44656113/nfl-draft-hopeful-ex-lsu-wr-kyren-lacy-found-dead-houston
Former LSU receiver Kyren Lacy was found dead Saturday night in Houston, an LSU official and his attorney confirmed to ESPN on Sunday.
A cause of death was not immediately known.
Lacy was accused of causing a crash that killed a 78-year-old man on Dec. 17 and then fleeing the scene without rendering aid or calling authorities. On Jan. 12, he turned himself in to authorities, was jailed and then released on $151,000 bail, according to police records.
Lafourche (Louisiana) Parish Sheriff's Office records indicated that Lacy was charged with negligent homicide, felony hit-and-run with death and reckless operation of a vehicle. A grand jury was to begin hearing evidence in the case Monday.
Kyren Lacy, who played three seasons at LSU after starting his college career at Louisiana, participated last month at LSU's pro day. Tyler Kaufman/Getty Images "It is with profound sorrow that we confirm the tragic passing of Kyren Lacy. First and foremost, we ask that the public and the media give his family the space and time they need to grieve this unimaginable loss in peace," Lacy's attorney, Matthew Ory, said in a statement to ESPN's Mark Schlabach.
Ory added that he was "very confident the evidence, after being fully collected and reviewed, would lead to a declination of charges" and that, "we will be demanding a full and transparent review of how this investigation was conducted and why."
According to a news release from Louisiana State Police, Lacy was allegedly driving a 2023 Dodge Charger on Louisiana Highway 20 and "recklessly passed multiple vehicles at a high rate of speed by crossing the centerline and entering the northbound lane while in a designated no-passing zone."
"As Lacy was illegally passing the other vehicles, the driver of a northbound pickup truck abruptly braked and swerved to the right to avoid a head-on collision with the approaching Dodge," a Louisiana State Police news release said.
"Traveling behind the pickup was a 2017 Kia Cadenza whose driver swerved left to avoid the oncoming Dodge Charger. As the Kia Cadenza took evasive action to avoid impact with the Dodge, it crossed the centerline and collided head-on with a southbound 2017 Kia Sorento."
Police alleged that Lacy, 24, drove around the crash scene and fled "without stopping to render aid, call emergency services, or report his involvement in the crash."
Herman Hall, of Thibodaux, Louisiana, who was a passenger in the Kia Sorento, later died from injuries suffered in the crash, according to state police.
Lacy's agent, Rocky Arceneaux, said in a statement that his client was "fully cooperating with the authorities."
Lacy declared for the NFL draft on Dec. 19, two days after the crash, and did not play in LSU's win over Baylor in the Texas Bowl. He participated in March at LSU's pro day and was ranked as high as the No. 6 receiver prospect in the draft by ESPN's Mel Kiper in December. Lacy was not ranked among the top 10 available wide receivers in Kiper's most recent Big Board, which was published last month.
Lacy played three seasons at LSU after starting his career at Louisiana. Lacy had his best season last year when he caught 58 passes for 866 yards and a team-leading nine touchdowns.
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2815524, dad strongly intimating it was a suicide Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Apr-13-25 07:51 PM
the final part of a parade of shit that didnt have to go down the way it did
his poor parents
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2813985, US Dept of Ed says revenue sharing to athletes is subject to Title IX Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Jan-17-25 05:52 PM
under the guide of "athletic financial assistance. House settlement now sliced in half in terms of whats available for the NOT EMPLOYEES that generated that money.
what a fucking mess
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2814381, Jim Knowles off to PSU Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Jan-26-25 03:23 PM
lol
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2814390, mission accomplished Posted by will_5198, Sun Jan-26-25 03:42 PM
but that's pretty shocking
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2814396, there was clearly a rift after the first oregon game Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Jan-26-25 04:19 PM
i thought it involved a power struggle with LJ sr. but who knows
hopefully we get a good replacement.
meanwhile I feel like PSU rotates coordinators on a yearly basis and everyone gets hyped up about it but the results tend to look the same.
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2814401, i saw this intimated as well Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Jan-26-25 04:25 PM
>i thought it involved LJ sr. but who knows
i know LJ s a beloved figure, but outside of the Bosas and Young, OSU hasnt had a DL drafted in the top 50 since Jonathan Hankins in 2013. its odd that a dispute between the DC and the DL coach leads to the DC moving on.
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2814428, LJ Sr was beloved at PSU too for a long time. He got passed over Posted by Mignight Maruder, Sun Jan-26-25 08:09 PM
for DC and intern coach shortly following Paterno’s exit and bounced to OSU. It definitely felt like an F U to PSU at the time. Can’t speak for his role at OSU, but I know he had a huge influence on the team outside of just being the DL coach. He was always highly regarded as a top notch recruiter too.
This situation seems very odd to me.
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2814817, players are saying that LJ was the one who saved the D Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Feb-14-25 10:28 AM
>its odd that a dispute between the DC and >the DL coach leads to the DC moving on.
and that the changes after the first Oregon game were not done willfully by knowles.
I think this explains a lot.
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2814818, players are saying that LJ was the one who saved the D Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Feb-14-25 10:28 AM
>its odd that a dispute between the DC and >the DL coach leads to the DC moving on.
and that the defensive scheme changes after the first Oregon game were not done willfully by knowles.
I think this explains a lot.
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2814431, Was not expecting this at all, but obviously a great get. Posted by Mignight Maruder, Sun Jan-26-25 08:19 PM
This move seems a bit weird as he was offered the bag to stay in OSU and took an even nicer raise to head to rival PSU. Does this guy have any HC aspirations? Is he just chasing $$?
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2814464, he was HC at cornell a ways back Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Jan-26-25 11:01 PM
>Does this guy have any HC aspirations? Is he just chasing $$?
he doesn't recruit so I think he's a career DC at this point
my guess is that it was just a bad fit for him at OSU and he wanted to profit while his stock was at its highest
also, historically it's taken a few years to get his system up and running so I don't know how well that plays out with psu's upcoming natty or bust season
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2814490, trump's spending freeze specifically includes all AFA athletics Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Jan-28-25 07:57 PM
ut not Army-Navy
is this Air Force paying the price for not disgracing themselves with his presence before being required to?
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2814803, in an all-timer of a bizarre hire, OSU makes Matt Patricia DC Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Feb-12-25 02:50 PM
i predict this ends in disgrace somehow, and quickly
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2814804, I dont follow the NFL closely enough to have any opinion on this Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Feb-12-25 03:43 PM
certainly our resident lions fans have an extra level of insight
I would say that overall theme of the offseaon hires has been unexpected and risky
>i predict this ends in disgrace somehow, and quickly
based on the accuracy of your other doom and gloom osu predictions I think this bodes very well for us
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2814805, ngl it's not good lol Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Feb-12-25 04:19 PM
it probably wont turn out too bad just because of the overwhelming talent yall typically carry but he is a clown.
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2814806, I'm fine with it, IDC about his lack of success as an NFL HC Posted by guru0509, Wed Feb-12-25 04:40 PM
he stepped into a shitty situation and met the same fate as every other lions coach in franchise history , all they do is lose and disappoint. same as this year
as long as he's willing to recruit for a season....
I think if we have another deep playoff run, he is back to the NFL for a DC gig, which is fine, healthy programs have coaching turnover in the offseason
edit, unless youre michigan, in which case they run to the nfl bc of ncaa sanctions
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2814812, people thought schiano would be the death of osu Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Feb-13-25 11:44 AM
he was a dick, everyone in tampa hated him, etc etc and that worked out just fine.
as long as they aren't hiring a DC with zero experience (coombs) or someone who has been proven to be objectively horrible at this level (grinch) then i think there's a limit to how much damage can be done. especially since he's just meshing with the current staff as opposed to a rebuild with his own guys.
>as long as he's willing to recruit for a season.... > >I think if we have another deep playoff run, he is back to the >NFL for a DC gig, which is fine, healthy programs have >coaching turnover in the offseason
ya he wont be recruiting and i think this a 1-2 year hire until they hand the reigns over to Matt Guerreri.
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2814808, ots gis doom amd gloom thats easy to predict Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Feb-12-25 07:15 PM
hes a well-docunmented shithead of a person, and ryan day seems to not he that, which would make it bizarre enough
but hes really produced some terrible product too. i would never have guessed he was even a candidate for a premier level college coordinator role
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2814810, well that's a departure from the company line! Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Feb-13-25 10:26 AM
>hes a well-docunmented shithead of a person, and ryan day >seems to not he that
I just think there's a middle ground between 'recreates '85 bears defense' and 'quickly ends in disgrace'
my bold prediction is that this falls somewhere in between those two outcomes
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2814811, the defense will be ok, as mentioned above Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Feb-13-25 10:45 AM
Patricia's main problems are interpersonal. too much of a dick for the NFL is an accomplishment, and the unrestricted free agents for the Lions literally had a party in the locker room after the last game of one of his seasons.
Darius Slay was our best player on either side of the ball and Patricia irreconcilably alienated him in like 10 minutes. Quandre Diggs too, because he told them to their faces that they werent elite. After the Lions traded them for a 5th round pick each in 2019 because he thought they were trash, they each went on to make 3 Pro Bowls, so there's that on the eval side too.
i dont think he has any idea how to talk to these kids (or anybody really), and I do think the "mutual parting of ways" is going to stem from that eventually.
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2814815, He was comically bad in Philly last year. Like really, really bad. Posted by Mignight Maruder, Thu Feb-13-25 07:07 PM
He was hired as the ‘senior defensive assistant’ and took over for first time DC (Sean Desai) who was in over his head. The defense just got worse with Patricia.
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2814809, very odd. he hasn't coached in college for 20 years. Posted by will_5198, Thu Feb-13-25 12:00 AM
his last five seasons in the NFL weren't exactly bathed in glory, either.
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2814807, TOSU promotes Brian Hartline, the best WRs coach in FB to OC Posted by guru0509, Wed Feb-12-25 04:45 PM
7 years in the NFL
played for Tressel (who is now LT Governor of Ohio btw,
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43812636/ex-buckeyes-coach-tressel-confirmed-ohio-lieutenant-governor
coached for Urban
coached for Day and won a title and developed more first round WR picks than any other WR coach in CFB,
(after Jeremiah SMith, is Chris Henry JR, ...be very very very scared)
and hopefully one day future coach of TOSU
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2814813, the offensive staff is very young and inexperienced Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Feb-13-25 11:46 AM
but you absolutely cannot let hartline leave columbus. had to do it.
but i would guess Day will be more heavily involved with the offense this year.
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2814814, DeBeor got his potna back, Ryan Grubb. Posted by tariqhu, Thu Feb-13-25 05:37 PM
I expect a much more productive offense regardless of the qb.
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2814816, Jaden Rashada has some really misguided parents/handlers Posted by will_5198, Thu Feb-13-25 10:44 PM
2022: Commits to Miami in HS
2022: Flips to Florida based on flimsy $13 million NIL deal
2023: Released from letter of intent by Florida since their collective was giving out Monopoly money
2023: Transfers to Arizona State and plays two games
2024: Sues Billy Napier
2024: Transfers to Georgia and falls to third on the depth chart
2025: Leaves Georgia after getting no burn, doesn't find anybody to take him so going to try and sign after spring
all these schools upgraded at the position when he arrived (Florida got DJ Lagway, Arizona State made the CFP with Leavitt, Gunner Stockton...uh, beat Texas) and his family keeps chasing a payday that is becoming an actual fantasy.
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2814819, He don’t really want to play football Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Feb-14-25 10:45 AM
Idk why teams keep bringing him in. He’d be off my board
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2815507, Nico skips practice until Tennessee pays him more. Posted by will_5198, Fri Apr-11-25 03:39 PM
he was good, not great, last season. Tennessee will take a short-term step back but I wouldn't be held hostage by a guy who has already been paid $4 million for one season of OK production.
and I get renegotiating a 2022 NIL deal, but there are better ways to do it than quitting the team during spring. he would have to win a playoff game to come back from that.
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2815508, almost have to tell him to strap em up or kick rocks Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Apr-11-25 07:30 PM
hurting the team because you want to renege on a deal you signed is a bridge beyond imo
every day he misses im taking $100K out of his deal and giving it to Merklinger
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2815509, ... Posted by will_5198, Fri Apr-11-25 08:48 PM
...
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2815510, fanbase has turned on him already Posted by will_5198, Fri Apr-11-25 08:48 PM
his dad doesn't help much either
if USC wants to pay Nico $4 million a year, enjoy the trip back to Cali
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2815515, perfect fit Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Apr-12-25 10:30 AM
>if USC wants to pay Nico $4 million a year, enjoy the trip >back to Cali
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2815589, he gets the LA school with no money. even better fit. Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Apr-21-25 07:46 AM
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2815512, 4 mil; crazy how opaque this is. Made me wonder re DJ lagway NIL: Posted by dillinjah, Sat Apr-12-25 06:11 AM
can't really find a good source, other than this:
https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/football/
If Carson Beck is getting anything close to that valuation...LOL
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2815517, I think Beck is getting $4-5 million Posted by will_5198, Sat Apr-12-25 11:39 AM
which is why Kirby said peace
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2815513, waiting for someone to hold out before a playoff game Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Apr-12-25 09:30 AM
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2815540, apparently he tried that Posted by Ceej, Wed Apr-16-25 09:56 AM
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2815590, from the players to the fanbase* that game doesn't get enough mockery Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Apr-21-25 08:03 AM
neyland north! lmao
*aside from will of course - dont get angry at me!
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2815516, ON3 reporting Heupel told the team they're moving on without him Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Apr-12-25 10:41 AM
good for him
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2815520, the ONLY proper way to deal. Posted by guru0509, Sat Apr-12-25 01:12 PM
>good for him
i wouldnt even let him back in teh facility to grab his shit, throw it all out in the curb
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2815518, when he flaked on that last play I knew he was challenged Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Apr-12-25 12:21 PM
but I’m also not mad at trying to get what you can while you can.. it could all end tomorrow.
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2815526, it might all be over now for Uncle Nico Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Apr-13-25 10:10 PM
well connected ND guy says ND *and* USC are both a hard pass
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2815549, yeah.. and I’m a Vol fan, went there freshman year Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Apr-17-25 06:09 PM
shout out Hess Hall
this is what happens when you try to hold out or get too greedy.. it can ruin your career.
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2815519, . Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Apr-12-25 12:21 PM
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2815609, Tennessee with the first trade in NIL history Posted by will_5198, Tue Apr-22-25 10:32 AM
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2815613, the collective needs to do the right thing here Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Apr-22-25 11:14 AM
and give him a $100k bump from what they were giving Nico
just to say fuck you
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2815614, let's not get crazy Posted by will_5198, Tue Apr-22-25 11:44 AM
this guy might not even be the starter
but some other team leaders will probably get a little bump
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2815615, Madden Iamaleava leaves Arkansas, back to UCLA Posted by will_5198, Tue Apr-22-25 11:47 AM
after de-committing from UCLA last December and signing with Arkansas without a visit
little guy hasn't played football since his junior year of high school
their dad is playing high-level tic-tac-toe with these boys
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2815721, Arkansas's collective wants their money back too Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Apr-26-25 01:43 PM
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2816043, lanning is a weirdo Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun May-11-25 08:37 AM
https://x.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1921373778019340417
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