Monty fired, which is insane, but expected. I’d say Cavs is the smart choice as far as open jobs are, but let’s be real. Wherever he goes he’ll be fired in 4 years if he’s lucky.

Coaching is a great gig if you want to get paid to fuck off, but not if you want long term stability.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40385485/sources-pistons-fire-coach-monty-williams-one-season

the backup guys will likely be Atkinson, Alex Jensen, maybe Chris Quinn from Miami.

but there's a major reason why I want Borrego: he has made doo-doo into actual fertilizer for teams offensively. The Cavs Achilles' heel is not toughness, not even the size of their backcourt IMO. it's offense and shooting.

and Borrego had a fuckin Devonte Graham/Terry Rozier backcourt cooking on a Hornets team that was ultimately ass. A lot of non-shooters in NO he made respectable.

Moving off JBB, I'm definitely welcoming JB2 with open arms over here.

headline might as well read "Pistons fans see 50% increase in their ticket/concession prices in 2024-26"

i get $65milly in a $2billy business is a drop in bucket/part of the game..but still

but we'll see

You made a mistake. The coach isn't working, and you owe him a ton of money. Would you rather:
a) lose several more seasons solely because you don't want to eat the cost of firing the coach, or
b) admit the mistake, pay out the ass for it, and move on in order to give your franchise an actual modicum of hope for the near future?

Option B all day. You have a new president, new GM, might as well have a new coach. They can make moves with this roster-- it's a roster with bad fit, but most of the pieces are really young with real upside value. Extract enough value with moves, and hey, you could have something.

If it were up to me (and hey Detroit, I'm available), everything I do would be centered around trying to surround Cade with shooting. I'd trade one of Ivey or Ausar, whichever you like more going forward, for shooting or major league draft capital. I'd trade Duren for shooting. I think Stewart can space the floor some, and he's obviously great to keep for salary matching in future trades down the line, but if you get the right offer, you trade him too. I like Grimes (even though he was hurt most of last year). I like Sasser as an off-the-bench piece. But they desperately need true rim protection next to Stewart, and they need shooting shooting shooting.

In the draft, shit, I'd trade up to make sure I land Reed Sheppard. Exceptional shooter, exceptional decision maker, a perfect complement to Cade. Maybe offer Houston Ivey-- or maybe Amen wants to play with his brother, idk. But I've no doubt in my mind Ivey and a second or two would get you the third pick in this draft. Then, with the fifth pick, you land Donovan Clingan or Alex Sarr, whichever one is still on the board at 5, since the Spurs aren't drafting a center. If the Pistons could roll out something like Cade/Sheppard/Grimes/Stewart/Clingan next year? That'd be something I could get excited about looking ahead.

Do I think they'll reboot that hard, when so many of these individual pieces hold great potential (I love Ivey, I think Ausar can be an NBA starter, I think Duren is a perfect Drummond bench big type)? Absolutely not. But if Cade is your star (and he is), you can't have multiple can't shoot/can't defend players on the floor next to him. It's just common sense.

>If it were up to me (and hey Detroit, I'm available),
>everything I do would be centered around trying to surround
>Cade with shooting. I'd trade one of Ivey or Ausar, whichever
>you like more going forward, for shooting or major league
>draft capital.

If one has to go its Ivey, but the way Ivey got jerked around this past year, I dont think they could get the value for what he will be, just what hes shown up to now.

They have to see if Cade/Ivey can work imo. There is a risk that Ivey turns put to be a good player on a bad team type, but doing things and undoing them is why Kennard isnt there now to he the shooting they need, and James Wiseman is.

>I'd trade Duren for shooting. I think Stewart
>can space the floor some, and he's obviously great to keep for
>salary matching in future trades down the line, but if you get
>the right offer, you trade him too. I like Grimes (even though
>he was hurt most of last year). I like Sasser as an
>off-the-bench piece. But they desperately need true rim
>protection next to Stewart, and they need shooting shooting
>shooting.

Duren is off the table imo. Everyone loves him, his attitude, and the work ethic to match the potential. If someone wants to overpay, then the Pistons should listen, but short of that i dont think hes going anywhere.

>In the draft, shit, I'd trade up to make sure I land Reed
>Sheppard. Exceptional shooter, exceptional decision maker, a
>perfect complement to Cade. Maybe offer Houston Ivey-- or
>maybe Amen wants to play with his brother, idk. But I've no
>doubt in my mind Ivey and a second or two would get you the
>third pick in this draft. Then, with the fifth pick, you land
>Donovan Clingan or Alex Sarr, whichever one is still on the
>board at 5, since the Spurs aren't drafting a center. If the
>Pistons could roll out something like
>Cade/Sheppard/Grimes/Stewart/Clingan next year? That'd be
>something I could get excited about looking ahead.

If they trade up for Reed Sheppard im gonna vomit, and if they trade Ausar Thompson to do it im driving down to the arena and vomiting on the front door. I personally believe Ausar has All NBA potential in the Demar Derozan lane with preternatural 2pt shot selection and the length and athleticism that will cause opponents to game plan around his disruptiveness.

>Do I think they'll reboot that hard, when so many of these
>individual pieces hold great potential (I love Ivey, I think
>Ausar can be an NBA starter, I think Duren is a perfect
>Drummond bench big type)? Absolutely not. But if Cade is your
>star (and he is), you can't have multiple can't shoot/can't
>defend players on the floor next to him. It's just common
>sense.

Cade/Ausar/Duren are the foundation and everyone here loves them. I dont see any of them going anywhere. Like I said, Ivey i could be talked into, but also like I said, Dinwiddie/Kennard/Bruce. Cutting bait on guys just to try something new has gotten old amongst the fan base. The last coach to make the playoffs more than once got fired before end of his contract. Monty shouldve never been hired, but now that hes gone, I really want a little patience so that we can see what we really have.

Cade/Ausar/Duren are the foundation and everyone here loves them. I dont see any of them going anywhere. Like I said, Ivey i could be talked into, but also like I said, Dinwiddie/Kennard/Bruce. Cutting bait on guys just to try something new has gotten old amongst the fan base.

They’ve been out here drafting “best player available” with a sea of players who can’t shoot. And now they draft Holland, who REALLY can’t shoot. I think all these individual players have genuine talent, but, like, that paint will be more packed than Times Square on NYE.

If you keep all these people to see what you have, they aren’t winning for years, plural, unless their shooting coach does miracle work. I know they’re gonna max extend Cade, as they should, but it’s gonna be so hard to see just how great he can be if no one on the team knocks down open 3s.

I’m not a Duren believer, personally— but honestly the center is the least of the issues. They just need two shooters out there at all times imo. I don’t know what the vision is. At all. Even in the new regime with the Ron Holland pick— unless the Holland pick signifies other guys are on their way out.

Won’t happen, so…guess I’ll look forward to a podcaster head coach and a 3rd guy who doesn’t fit in again.

I think the league the last few years has shown the depth is more important than top line talent. Even the year the team made the WCF, they had AD and Bron playing well, of course, but they had a lot of players play over their heads.

Also, who are we bringing in to be the #3 and who are we sending out? I don't think Levine is a solid bet given his injury history and lack of effort of defense. Are we getting rid of Reeves to get Levine? I don't think that's a good idea either.

I'd rather trade AD and Bron and start over. But, I would have very little faith the FO could actually build a capable roster. I didn't like Jim Buss and Mitch the last few years, but they did draft a pretty good roster. Recently, they nabbed Caruso, Reeves, and TNT with some low picks, so maybe I'm not giving them enough credit.

Regardless, I think 2020 was the peak of this team. It seems like whoever you bring in as a 3rd star, it's not going to move the needle enough to get this team to the level that OKC or MIN or DEN or DAL is at now. So, break the team up. But, I realize we need stars out here or Jeanie and Jay Mohr can't afford a new estate, so...

But the injuries killed em. Obviously the offseason was almost nonexistent. Ah well.

But yeah. I’m guessing it’s gonna be LaVine, Dejonte, or…Trae. Blah.

If AD and Bron don't get hurt, I think they were capable of making a run to the Finals or at least the WCF.

Either way, those two years were the best iterations of this version of the team. I don't see Rob getting the right fits around the stars.

As it is now, we'd be good if we were a Play-In team.

There's SO much money on the books. And they don't have their 2025 or 2027 picks either. Just gonna have to wait it out.

If Bron retires after this season, you eject Rui and Gabe Vincent in a heartbeat, you keep Reaves and Vanderbilt (because their contracts are pretty great, honestly), and you build around AD, because, let's face it, unless he plays another season or two like last year's, it's unlikely someone will want to trade for the right to pay 35-year-old AD 70 million dollars. But you'd have a ton of cap space, a few future picks, and expiring Rui and Vincent deals to play with in the trade market and free agency. It'll turn fast.

Just not next year, lol.

Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.

This is so stupid.

I say somewhat because all of my attention next season will be on my Knicks as this offseason will be a pivotal one, but enough about them. I bring up the expectations thing because I didn't watch the Lakers enough to know if Darvin Ham was in fact trash as a head coach and if Reddick will be that much better than him to exceed whatever expectations Ham didn't meet.

I have to assume Reddick is smart enough to know all eyes will be on him since him and LeBron already have that podcast they started up together coupled with the fact he's so green as a head coach.

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https://tinyurl.com/2tk75bww

This dude legit kissed Bron's ass all the way to the head coaching gig of the LA Lakers. Unfucking real.


>Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with
>experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.

Wait...why? Why do you hope it works out for *him*?


There are qualified candidates out there. There are other former players out there with coaching experience.


They just don't have the right complexion and experience kissing Lebron's ass.


Its okay to turn down a job. Its ok to know that your privilege + friendship shouldn't mean you take a job. Its okay to have self awareness and bow out.

Lakers shouldn't have offered it, but he shouldn't accept either. No reason to "pull" for this type of arrogance.

Either way, the Lakers are in shambles. Damn, Lebron and his team really helped sink the LA Lakers for years to come. Crazy.

This is loser, legacy-ruining stuff.

>Lakers shouldn't have offered it, but he shouldn't accept
>either. No reason to "pull" for this type of arrogance.

*and* he has a good chance of pulling a full Monty and getting canned in a year if the lakers underperform but still getting paid some or all of the remaining years on the contract. i'm taking that job if i'm reddick 10/10 times. job probably should have gone to a coach with more experience and qualifications but that's on the FO

But there is also the risk of JJ completely embarrassing himself and making it extremely hard to get another head coaching gig if that occurs. Examples of ex-player first time head coaches with no NBA head or assistant coaching experience getting canned and fading away to Bolivian I can think of are Steve Nash and Derek Fisher.

Reddick is a smart dude, so I have to imagine he knows that's part of the risk of taking this job.

and this is a good litmus test for him. and it's not like "ex head coach of the lakers" will tarnish his podcast or broadcasting careers. i agree he's unqualified but there aren't many reasons in my mind why he shouldn't take this once in a lifetime opportunity

the team going in the right direction.

the bigger problem, as mentioned earlier, the lakers never should've made an offer to him. maybe this is a stop-gap til bron retires? maybe they can both leave at the same time lol

hopefully, I'm wrong, but don't see how this helps anything besides jj's pockets.

that's all that really matters with regards to the Lakers right now.

let's see how this works out.

>Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with
>experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.


...and he failed miserably with 2 hall of famers and Kyrie


good luck lol

Jeanie please take control of your team from Klutch Sports.

Cassell has put in years of assistant coaching training and cant get the gig over a guy who kissed LeGM's ass. Lakers arent serious

>Cassell has put in years of assistant coaching training and
>cant get the gig over a guy who kissed LeGM's ass. Lakers
>arent serious

>Woj says he's putting together a staff to surround him with
>experience. Fingers crossed this works out for him.

since this dude been buddied up with the superstar/gm he's about to start coaching. previous experience: Brooklyn Basketball Academy 2023-24 Volunteer 4th Grade Boys Head Coach. MERIT BASED!

bye, Josh.

Obviously if you think Giddey is going to go to jail at some point-- or will continue to pursue activities for which he might go to jail-- then it's a terrible deal, lol. But Chicago's miles from real contention, and Giddey's a 21 year old averaging 14/7/6 for his career.

Caruso has way more value on a team like OKC than on a team like Chicago, where he's the perfect role player who doesn't need the ball to impact the game, and Giddey has way more value as a high ceiling upside swing on a team like Chicago than on a team like OKC. So, y'know, if Giddey can not be a total dumbass off the court, then it should work out for both teams.

And obviously, in the short term, it's a huge come up for OKC, for whom Caruso is just a perfect fit.

Bulls reddit is overreacting because the trade didn't come with picks.
But an injury prone 30 year old Caruso isn't gonna fetch that.
Honestly, the moves the Bulls are making now they should have started two years ago.

As for Giddy, I don't like that the Bulls are adding another player that's not a threat
behind the arc, but Giddy is young and an additional play maker.

But I think the teams that would've dealt a pick or two for Caruso would've been contender teams for whom the picks would've likely been in the 20s-- and the odds that you find a guy averaging 14/7/6 by age 21 in the NBA even with two swings of the bat in the 20s are so incredibly small. You'd need a top 10 type pick-- and teams with likely top 10 picks aren't interested in dealing them for a season of Alex Caruso.

The more interesting thing about this, that I've seen a few people bring up, is the upcoming Giddey extension. Because Giddey's people are gonna ask for a big number given his age and stats-- and they likely know that the Bulls can't just let Giddey walk for nothing after dealing Caruso for him. So the Bulls are presumably all in on the Josh Giddey experience. So it's interesting to dive into that idea as it pertains to the rest of the roster (and roster moves) going forward.

feel like OKC is overloaded with <= 6'5" defenders already

It is what it is, but I'm glad finally they've delivered a chip.

Always a little risky if something unexpected and essentially career-ending happens, but once you have a championship core, let the billionaires pay to keep them together. The fans'll be happy, and the players have earned it.

Shit falls apart, but in the interim you guys are set without many roster questions for the next few years which has to feel nice.

The only concern moving forward is how we replace Horford's production next summer when he retires. That second apron is gonna make it tough to add a replacement. But outside of that, the core should be set for years.

I have no doubt a good,cheap vet big will come like Rasheed in 2010

Pat Rileys very public "keep your mouth shut if youre not playing" comments to Jimmy when he commented on the Knicks series was kind of eyebrow raising lol, and part of me thinks jimmy wanted to snap back but had to bite his tongue given its a contract year

edit https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/pat-riley-says-jimmy-butler-shouldve-kept-his-mouth-shut-about-heat-vs-celtics-addresses-potential-trade/

35, aging, and plays a rugged style that leads to injuries but hes looking for max numbers...

IDK, something tells me Pat Riley would rather not give out that kind of bag



>Monty fired, which is insane, but expected. I’d say Cavs is
>the smart choice as far as open jobs are, but let’s be real.
>Wherever he goes he’ll be fired in 4 years if he’s lucky.
>
>
>Coaching is a great gig if you want to get paid to fuck off,
>but not if you want long term stability.
>
>https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40385485/sources-pistons-fire-coach-monty-williams-one-season

Definitely wouldn't re-sign him at this age and injury history. Maybe ATL would want his leadership? Try to snag Murray from them?

After Hurley turned down the offer, who should they have hired instead of JJ? It's not as if they had a wide field of options, and they need a coaching overhaul not just for the immediate, but for the long-term.

While the comparison to Riley is imperfect, it's also the case that critics excoriated the Lakers for making that hire as Riles was unproven, "too young", and had no remarkable substantive coaching experience.

But the comparison I think is more apt is to Steve Kerr, who also was an analyst before becoming a coach, and was clowned when the hire was made. "Wasn't a great player"; "no experience"; "too many better coaches available" etc...

Both JJ & Kerr aren't just meticulous analysts who really relish deep diving into the game, but they also are adept at relationship building and understanding personalities having both been around great players and coaches at the highest level. Both also aren't afraid to speak their minds and don't shy away from confrontation with great players.

There will be rough moments as JJ is being thrown to a high controversy franchise with win-now expectations (even if those expectations are overblown/unfair for a team that's had to play-in to the playoffs of recent vintage) - but he knows the modern game, has fostered great relationships wherever he's been, clearly has a drive to analyze and deeply study the game/strategy/matchups/sets etc. - and I think he'll be able to handle the intense learning curve/media frenzy given his competitive nature.

Also - for those who watched the Lakers consistently in the Ham era, they grew weary of seeing other teams constantly run successful sets and adjust, while the Lakers just stood still with questionable (at best) rotations and no viable sets; no quality sets out of timeouts; stubbornly starting/holding on to rotations that weren't bearing fruit etc. It became glaringly clear that the Lakers had a coaching disadvantage against nearly every team they faced.

Will JJ solve that? Unclear, but the players lost faith in Ham, and a change had to occur. Lakers are betting on the young, dynamic new guy - and that's also sort of on-brand for the franchise.

Just because the resume is light doesn't mean he won't succeed. I'm more bullish on the Redick era. Sure, it's a gamble, but when you look at the field of options available, the hire makes more sense. I think there will be more buy-in from the players, and that could give Redick the timeline needed to excel.

but again - does being a minority owner of a team and a GM for a few years prepare you to be a head coach? Not too many former GMs/Execs out there who went on to become successful coaches.

Point is that Kerr also didn't have substantive coaching experience prior to GS, but many predicted he'd be successful nonetheless not just because of his time as an exec and an analyst (he was an analyst after his time with Phoenix, so he was also hired while working as an analyst) - but because of who he was and the aggregate non-coaching experience/attributes he brought to the table.

But the question remains: who should the Lakers have hired instead? Cassell? Monty?

He could be Pat Riley, Kerr, or even Kidd…but the money is on that he’s more Steve Nash or Luke Walton (who had much more experience, obv). We don’t REALLY know enough about how these coaches really work outside of track record. There’s no point in being mad about it, but he’s absolutely set up for failure - this just isn’t really a desirable job. I’m ok with going with a new dude who isn’t a retread like Monty, etc but would have honestly preferred someone who hasn’t been a HC but has been an assistant like Sam Cassell.

I also liked Ham more than most tho so…

this job is a dumpster fir right now. I don't see how jj helps. I would've also preferred Cassell.

comparing jj to Kerr or Kidd doesn't seem fair. those two have chip experience. kerr was a key role player the greatest teams/players ever, while kidd was also one of the best at during his time. jj was none of that.

I like jj as a player, analyst, even podcaster. just don't think this was the right move for the team.

again, hopefully I'm wrong.

All 7 of the previous coaches had serious coaching experience, and they were still swiftly shown the door. May as well try one without coaching experience!

(I'm 75% joking.)

Brown's a head coach, Ham's an assistant for the Bucks, Walton's an assistant for the Cavs, Vogel was a head coach less than two months ago and will undoubtedly be on someone's staff before next season, and D'Antoni is a coaching advisor for the Pels (which, given his age, makes sense imo).

Byron Scott's the only one who doesn't seem to be working in basketball anymore.

I only thought Brown had a job to be honest. Forgot Ham is with the Bucks, didn’t even remember Luke or Mike Dantoni had a job, and of course Vogel just got fired. My bad.

are better coaching candidates than JJ Redick. Sam Cassell has 15 years of NBA coaching experience. Adrian's last team fired him over a losing streak despite a winning record. Kenny Atkinson and James Borrego have more experience than JJ as well.

None of those candidates come with baggage like an abortion contract, alleged n word use, or trashing AD in the media.

Word on the street is JJ is one of the lowest paid coaches in the league as he should be.

>None of those candidates come with baggage like an abortion
>contract, alleged n word use, or trashing AD in the media.

"Alleged n word use"? Can you show your work on that?

>Word on the street is JJ is one of the lowest paid coaches in
>the league as he should be.

Lakers historically haven't come out of pocket with top dollar offers (one of the reasons they missed out on Ty Lue) - but in this instance it makes sense for JJ to not lead the way in terms of salary. Lakers didn't offer him as much as they offered Hurley. He also still took the job even after the Lakers went big-game hunting with Hurley to where JJ had to accept being plan B. Those are both good signs IMO suggesting JJ is coming in knowing he has a lot to prove and not expecting to be courted as if he's already a made man as a coach.


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https://x.com/halleemah/status/1805634597108998650

Halleemah Nash
@halleemah
I’ve only been called the N word to my face by a white man once in my life and it was on the campus of Duke University while I was doing work with the basketball team. And today he was named the new head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. What a world.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2024/6/25/24186108/jj-redick-denies-n-word-use-slur-allegations-lakers-coach



Within a few hours, TMZ had gotten a denial of the story from Redick’s team:

We reached out to Redick’s camp for a response to the claim ... and they completely shut it down.

“No, it never happened,” a spokesperson tells TMZ Sports

And more than Carlisle and what Lue made this year.

He’s tied for 7th highest paid in the league.

I am not mad at this pick.

The offense will be better. Mobley and Allen will be even better with him as coach.

He got the rawest of deals due to The Snake and Kyrie when he was in "Woke-Man" mode.

Now he will get the chance to do it again with a team that is already good but has some kinks to work out.

Now for Donovan to re-sign so we can really get moving.

(I hope Kenny's development reputation doesn't mean the Cavs pick some jabroni like Furphy though)

And when he told them to fuck off bc that’s a dumb idea they canned him smh

Look for a big leap from Mobley

For their sake, they need to be in the championship picture or they look like assholes. Again.

I... kinda don't think it's enough? But hey, it's probably the most relevant the Knicks have been since, like, Peak Carmelo.

I respect the move. And hell…could he be their missing piece? Sure! It’s not LIKELY, but it’s possible. He’s a nice piece but I cannot think this gets them past Boston even slightly.

the Knicks should have better depth than Boston; but like I said in my response to the trade, I want to wait until the Knicks make all their moves before opining on this trade.

As it stands today, Boston's starting five is still a notch above the other Eastern conference teams, especially defensively.

>
They’re not better than
Boston
Philly
Milwaukee

Are they better than
Cleveland
Miami
Orlando


??

Even that is debateable


I like this trade for us . Let them live out their frat boy collegiate fantasies for a yearly second round exit while we rebuild for a stable future devoid of star chasing and failing or depending on role players (albeit very good ) like mikael bridges to lead us to the promised land

Win win for everyone

I assume Robinson is gone.

since they can only offer him so much, and they go after Drummond or someone similar.

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especially if it's true that Mikal recently asked to get traded to the Knicks, but I'll wait until the Knicks are done making moves before giving any kind of final judgement on this trade.

I'm most interested in two aspects now for the Knicks 1) what the final roster will look like after all major moves are done and 2) if the Knicks will be above the second apron after all is said and done.

According to an interview with Nets GM Sean Marks, Bridges did not ask to get traded, much less to the Knicks.

Interesting.

I'm guessing whatever Brooklyn Nets fans will be around to buy tickets for Knicks/Nets games in Brooklyn probably won't care and will boo him anyway; can't say I blame them from their perspective.

basically Gobert level, and everyone thought that was WILD.

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I don't even care if the Cavs give up #20 for him.

I'm assuming the Nets will ask for picks for their players outside of Ben Simmons as a condition for taking part in their fire sale; I could be wrong of course.

.

I think he’s a top 5 prospect in this class. Terrific scorer and floor spacer.

>I think he’s a top 5 prospect in this class. Terrific
>scorer and floor spacer.

Since opening the flood gates for draft eligibility in terms of age, most lottery teams are in player-development mode and drafting younger and younger players.

Knecth's age (being 23 on draft day) is a huge advantage for the Lakers (been through adversity, couple more years of maturity etc..) while other teams want younger guys with empty slates to draw on. I thought Charlotte would take him, but I feel like they had PTSD from bad picks (namely Morrison) and passed on Knecht.

This was as good of a pick as the Lakers could've dreamed of given the scenario.
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Knecht being on the Lakers could easily make him the most high-profile NBA player from Tennessee since Allan Houston was on the Knicks

Just love this dude, he’ll have a 10 year career, no one works harder, and he we’ll finda profitable niche

if Boban can make a 10 year career in the NBA, Edey can for sure.

He’s closer to Yao than he is to boban

I’m hyped, think he’s gonna play to his draft position

we got abused so badly, up front.

We'll see.

My point was you mentioned him having a 10 year career. I was saying he SHOULD do that standing on his head with the Boban comparison, that's all.

And it is dumb, just look at how they move. He’s not Yao, but I 100% stand by him being close to Yao than to Boban.

But yeah, my10 year comment was underselling it

I can’t imagine anyone is invested enough to finish something this long and detailed, I’m biased and the target audience, but a great data backed defense of the most dominant college player in 40 years:


https://theswishtheory.com/2024-nba-draft-articles/2024/06/the-edey-enigma-a-systematic-defense-of-a-generational-talent/

only because he's sort of a relic to a type of NBA that barely exists anymore. that doesn't mean he has no place in the league.

but, if used right, he should be a career 14 and 10 guy at worst. definitely better than Boban.

this will allow JJJ to actually play PF because he's ass as a full-time center eventually.

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…organization than they appear to be. Which is saying something.

It's a fucking joke. I hope for a large scale fan revolt against Jeanie and/or a scandal or something, because that's probably the best chance we have of them selling the team.

Lakers are not serious about winning anytime soon

I’m annoyed by it but it’s largely inconsequential the
more I think about it.

Had they spent the 17, yeah. 

But at 55, the odds were seriously stacked against anyone at
that number.

At least there’s some tangible upside to drafting him.

I’m firmly in the camp that wants a full scale teardown from
ownership down to management, but that ain’t happening and
we’re locked into the Lebron era until he leaves. 

It’s not that big a deal the more I think about it. D

(no data on sons of current players)

so i think fair to say he has a better chance of success than
an exact clone with the exact same on-court performance
history who wasn't raised by lebron james.

point 2: rob pelinka should be fired.

unfortunately the clone's chance is zero, and 10×0 still
equals zero

but like

it's not

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

On one hand, through sheer nepo-will Lebron campaigned/conned his son into the league. There’s not a one credible scout who thinks this kid is a worthwhile pro prospect. That’s wild that Bron was able to flex his muscle to such an extant - hold the Lakers hostage to the point of hiring his podcast cohost as coach and drafting his son IN THE SAME WEEK.

But fuck man I just watxhed Savannah’s reaction and my hate was sort of extinguished. Like in the end , Lebron exceeded even the loftiest competitive expectations, never broke the law or embarrassed the league, and was a committed family man. And look at the dream he just realized - he came in the league at 18 and now he’s gonna play NBA ball with his son. I can only say good for him.

Lakers are a 5.5 who look in the mirror and see a 10. They have no real plan , no depth, not enough shooters , and are stuck in an already stacked and consistently improving West. It’s fun to see the delusion get more and more inflated by the year.

...to play in the NBA. He was clearly good enough to play at a D1 school.

And I don't blame his father for helping his kid pursue his dreams, or for wanting to play together on the same team with his son.

But I do expect the Lakers to be a serious organization. And they in all likelihood could have not spent a pick on the kid and just signed him after the draft was over. And it would have been the same feel good story.

And they will be doing the kid no favors if he's on the opening day roster instead of in the G-League/D-League/whatever they're calling it these days so he can develop his game.

Regardless, by all accounts Bryce is the better prospect. So when he eventually makes the league, all of this will be a footnote.

he said he would be playing with his son, period. Lakers (or anyone who wanted to just draft Bronny) could have called his bluff, and they didn't.

nothing really to get mad about, all parties are on board with the decision and nobody has a "right" to be in the NBA (if we are talking about the legit prospects the Lakers may have passed on). if LA wants to full out their roster with Marines, they can do that too.

#55 is always a crapshoot. People acting like the Lakers passed on a guaranteed player for Bronny. Most people couldn’t even name on player they should have taken instead.

He averaged 5 ppg and shot 37%. Zero business getting drafted, on his own merits.

Lakers are purely about names and star power at this point. Not at all a serious franchise.

Jeanie Buss owning and ultimately running the premier franchise in the NBA- and srguabky top 3 in all of pro sports- is an exponentially more insane and consequential example of nepotism.

Bronny was the last pick in the draft.

Yes, that sucks for the kids who had a shot at that opportunity based on their ability and not their dad.

But like Bronny’s draft position, it’s dead last on the list of problems with this team.

This team sucks for so many more significant reasons, this one doesn’t even register as an actual problem.

We all know the 55th pick most likely isn’t making it anyway. I’m not mad about it and I agree that big picture, it doesn’t move the needle.

I just want to make sure people are honest about what it is. You don’t get drafted as a guard that averaged 5 ppg on 37% because you can jump pretty high.

I'm ok with the reasons and still slightly annoyed that the pick wasn't used differently. however, it's not likely to move the needle regardless of who they got.

the org is in a terrible spot. this won't help them and looks dumb. hopefully they can swing some trades to become at least competitive soon.

there have been people drafted in the second round who didn't play the year previous.

people *don't want to be drafted in the second round* so that they can pick their teams. see Bronny's new teammate austin reaves.

if you don't understand basketball just say so.


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>there have been people drafted in the second round who didn't
>play the year previous.

Not usually.


>people *don't want to be drafted in the second round* so that
>they can pick their teams. see Bronny's new teammate austin
>reaves.


People who are good enough, sure.

>if you don't understand basketball just say so.

Take your own advice.

I'm glad you just started following the NBA today though, I think you'll love it.

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Go look up stats from the “last 7 years” and prove to me that you know your stuff!

then just keep waiting to find out if I do it, I'll brb, promise!

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and you’re the one who asked me to look up 7 years of draft picks, lol.

The Lakers picked Bronny because of his dad, but it’s not that big of a deal because it’s only the 55th pick. We already all talked about all that. As a Lakers fan, it’s par for the course though so the direction of the franchise is frustrating.

If you think he was picked for any other reason, then cool. If you agree why he was picked, then what are you even doing?

if they had done that @ 17 instead of getting a player like "XBOX" Knecht (who surprisingly dropped) they would be complete dumbasses

love the move personally because it shuts up those obnoxious LeBronies in my team's fanbase

I’m convinced it’s why they picked Ball over Fox. Anyone with eyes could see Fox would be a better pro.

Bringing in Westbrook, smh. So dumb.

timing is always interesting and he's been on TV for a minute.

In line with the disturbing trend of Black people caping for white folks racist or racially suspect behavior, I can almost guarantee that LeBron says "JJ doesn't have a racist bone in his body" or some shit but prove me wrong Nepo/Crony king!

She first made waves about a decade ago when she said Reddick made her sign an "abortion contract." That was also around the time she first said he used anti-Black and anti-Hispanic racial slurs. She's popped again right around his name started to be thrown around to be the Lakers coach, and has said she has copies of the e-mails where he used the language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X36BYKKqQ8w

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X36BYKKqQ8w

Dejounte to the Pels for Nance Jr, a 25 first, via the Lakers and a 27 first, via New Orleans/Milwaukee.

the closer that CJ is moved to the 6th man the better they will be.

Don't expect Nance Jr to remain with them

Daniels is part of the new wing movement

DEANDRE HUNTER WE COMIN FOR YOU

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I believe that they would needed a sign a trade to bring him in (Have CP3 opt in, then package him and Kuminga). That doesnt seem to be on the table anymore.

As for Klay leaving, I’ll believe it when it happens.

What's the temperature of Warrior Nation on Klay leaving? Do most folk you encounter feel like you do?

>What's the temperature of Warrior Nation on Klay leaving? Do
>most folk you encounter feel like you do?

It’s REALLY hard to picture Klay in anything but a Warriors uniform. There’s the belief that he’s doing all of this to make sure the team doesn’t try to short change him.

It’s hard to envision what the post season moves would be like if he leaves. They’re already talking about trading Wiggins for Portis. With PG off the table, unless they find some other player to trade for, I assume that they just cut loose CP3. Don’t know what would happen after that, besides counting on Kuminga to further level up and be legit #2 scoring option.

If Klay leaves, it’s going to really have to be for personal reasons, because he won’t get more money anywhere else.

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It was gonna be very difficult to pay both of them.
And I think this is the right move.
Two years too late sadly, but it's the right move.

If Paul George goes to Philly, I'd love to see DeRozan go home to the Clippers.
Not sure how a s&t would work (if at all).

But THIS is the direction the Bulls SHOULD have started TWO YEARS AGO!
We could have got a LOT more for DeRozan, LaVine and Caruso back then.
Draft picks that would have really helped.

But you need an ownership group that understands that,
not one that's gonna make you hold on to your assets to keep
making the play in tournament.

Hopefully our 2025 pick is top 10 so we can add more talent.

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And someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the Spurs have a TON of picks for 2025.

turned down Clippers
Clippers were not gonna trade him to GSW at any cost

they already got Drummond and Eric Gordon

I expect Oubre, Melton, and some others to return

depending on what else they do, Philly will leapfrog NY. last season their 3rd option was Tobias Harris. It will now be the NyQuil God

nah, fuck that.

curses on that franchise forever.

but yeah, that's exactly who they needed they may actually hit the finals next season.

but the pettiest side of me says this is confirmation that "stretch 5s" don't cut it long-term against more dedicated centers.

see also: Memphis drafting Edey

absolute meth

WTF is this shit, did they not watch Philadelphia at all

and "can you be a major piece on a finals team?"


they need someone who can be a credible player around cade and they had to overpay for one, on a short contract because the young guys will need extensions (and hopefully earn them)




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He wants money, you want guys who can actually score. And next year, having an expiring 26 mil contract is *such* a valuable trade piece if you want to flip him and any of the young pieces for a verifiable #2 for Cade.

I was under the assumption Detroit did this to avoid spending below the salary floor.

ain't no way he getting paid that on a playoff team.

self-awareness.

Feels like it's just a matter of who is healthiest come playoffs time in the East, but I suppose it's always like that.

Embiid and PG will be broken as usual come the playoffs

to hand over the keys to the offense to Maxey so they can officially/unofficially load manage during the regular season and save themselves for the playoffs.

Depending on how shoddy the Sixers bench is as result of this free agency period, PG and Embiid might not have a choice in having the shoulder heavy minutes and/or usage during the regular season.

Was that they did the best they've ever done - a WCF appearance.

Meanwhile, the Lakers got one of those in a down year.

Ah well.

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when legacy players have to spend the end of their careers ring chasing.

not only because its usually an 'end of an era' type situation, but also because they are infrequently successful in getting those rings.

same with the pistons?

you acting like he took the vet minimum to join boston

because he thinks they can win a title by going there (which i think they got exposed and are FAR from despite being in the Finals this year - especially with how OKC has improved their team...a team they BARELY beat this year btw).

Again, what should have done? Taken more money to go to Charlotte or some loser team?

Choosing a contender is LITERALLY ring chasing, LOL.

I never said it as a knock. You just assumed it a negative. I just hate these years of legends career. I GET why they do it, and no, I never expect them to go to a bad team for any reason at these points in their careers.

You 'hate these years of legends career'.

I get that you're not shitting on Klay, but for some reason him getting paid by a good team makes you sad?

Klay and G.S. needed to part ways...what could Klay have done that wouldn't have made you sad? lol

i'm a Warriors fan, but especially a Steph and Klay fan.

only thing Klay could have done to make me "happy" is take the veteran minimum and come off the bench.

of course he's not gonna do that so that's just me wishing and being selfish.

my point is it's generally sad and unsuccessful when these guys who are past their primes for whatever reasons have to go around chasing one last hit because it often only highlights them being past their primes.

i get the myriad of reasons why it happens, i just don't like it.

It's not like he signed somewhere for less, or even similar, money. He's not ring chasing necessarily. He wanted to sign to a good team. You guys threw him away. It happens.

If both dudes have their minds right, that in theory could be a potent wing combination. It's too bad Klay lost some of his lateral movement as the two of them have the potential of being quite effective defensively.

at this stage in his career he's a shooter. That's about it. If he's hitting he's useful. If he's not, it's really bad.

I'm worried that Klay's days as a significant contributor to a good team might be behind him, but I think Dallas w/Luka and Kyrie drawing defenders and finding open shooters give him a good chance to make the most of his remaining ability.

If they play GS, I hope Dallas loses, but otherwise I'd love to see him have a nice coda to a great career.

So... what type of contract was he asking for that they couldn't agree? I assumed he was still at least a 30 million/per just because of status.

There was a solid stretch there where every regular season game was appt tv for me. I still remember that game when they beat the lebron heatles and realized this was something special. Game 6’s. Steph in the Garden.

I’ll be telling my grandkids about it one day

>.

Its a tough situation.

Staying with the Dubs and being sent out of the rotation at worst ain't really a great look for Klay's career if he wanted a chance to 'push himself' one last time or two.

Buuuuut..

The challenge with most players is that they often make for horrid self-GMs. IE: Durant/Harden/Irving 'deciding' to play together, getting together, and then realizing, like everyone with sense did beforehand, that it wasn't going to work on or off the court was bad for all 3 of them, the Nets, and the league overall. I felt the same way about Hakeem, Chuck, and Pippen forever ago. Hell, I've been against most of the Nets 'we're going for it yawl' configurations the last 15-ish years.

Back to Klay, 3 for 50 with the Mavs is probably an easier life than being under the microscope with the Lebron Lakers. But the issue is still the issue: Klay might be set for a role that he can't sufficiently and consistently fill anymore (3 and D in the West or, even more scary, against a team coming out of the East). I hope I'm wrong at least for a year.

Free agency is freedom, right? If so, I see it is a net positive for the NBA. Dudes crying their way off of teams 1.2 years into crazy 4-5 year deals (aka The Harden) is a net negative. But if some dude has done his time somewhere and wants to go elsewhere, I'm good with it even if I think its the 'wrong elsewhere'!

that's gotta be Klay's new official OKS moniker.

Breaking Brown’s record for the biggest deal.

Looks like Derrick White is also locked up for 4 years, 126 million.

I am very happy.

>Breaking Brown’s record for the biggest deal.
>
>Looks like Derrick White is also locked up for 4 years, 126
>million.
>
>I am very happy.

I hope the nucleus stays healthy so that someone has to beat them to win a title in the next few years. It could be really fun to see teams try. There were times where Boston looked inevitable (when they weren't driving people crazy with their weird inability to score sometimes).

The reality: staying healthy is fuggin hard to do!

Pundits disagreed with the Warriors when they drafted him, but he quickly won everyone over.

A lock for the HOF just based on his Warriors career.

Part of the best backcourt of all time (yeah, I said it).

Arguably the second best shooter of all time.

For a period, very much the best shooting guard in the league and the best two-way guard (lol Jimmy Butler lol)

Big part of all the championship teams.

Some legendary games, both regular and post season. Game 6 Klay lives forever.

And they way he announced his first re-signing a few years back was also fucking legendary.

So, saltute. And when all is said and done, he'll still get his statue out in front of the Chase Center. And his number retired. Duh.


That being said, he's not going to find what he's apparently looking for in Dallas. Which is another championship. Pinning your hopes on any team where a big part of the equation is Kyrie in his post Cavs career is bad business. But I hope he at least has fun.

No hate - seriously.

I just think, status as 2nd best shooter of all time or not, he feels like he’s an amazing, huge piece to the Warriors story - but the statues should probably only be Curry and Durant from that era. That’s me tho.

till the KD part. I'm not saying KD won't get one...but, I don't think there is ANY universe in which KD gets one and Klay does NOT. So...prolly just Steph, lol.

Wasn’t gonna include him but feels weird not to with 2 FMVPs.

>
...by any of the teams he played for?


so weird

Once we get the Sonics and their history back, OKC will have no history of their own and will want to do SOMETHING for the historical look.

i can see them doing that for sure. i mean, played there for what, 8 seasons and won an MVP there? for a franchise with no history it seems historical enough to get your jersey in the rafters.

that aint happening.

Clay will definitely get a statue.

Will prolly be Steph, Horse fade and Clay when its all said and done.

...to the WArriors and the community. For Klay, between Game 6 Klay, him and his dog, and him boating over to the Chase Center for his "commute," he's been insanely popular over the years. Plus, the Splash Bros. are a symbol of what this team has accomplished in the past decade or so. So, yeah, I think there's a pretty good chance.

I'm not sure how it's going to break down. Steph is obviously getting his own statue (he "built" the Chase Center). They could build separate statues for Klay and Draymond. But I think there's probably a decent chance that they make a "team" statue that features the main contributors to the championship teams: Klay, Draymond, KD, Iggy, and Kerr

The politics are strange, I’m sure. Curry is the only one so very obviously getting one….from there, it’s a bit of a mess.

And to the nation, Klay seems less notable than Steph, of course, KD, and even Dray.

But I think to Bay Area Dub fans, Klay is probably second to Steph in terms of rank in popularity or just being a unique, quintessential rep of the Bay Area.

I think Klay was overlooked because he was always the third-most key player (or fourth-most when KD played), or at least relative to Dray because he ate up all the attention.

But he now has the sixth-most-made 3s of all time and likely could hit #3 before he retires. He was a 5x All-Star and 2x All-NBA, but he only made one All-Defense team.

But the point is that he did this while being, at best, the second option. You could argue that the GS system made him as much as he made the system. But in the right place, he could have scored closer to 25-27 ppg rather than the 19-21 he did with GS as the lead scorer.

I, personally, don't think a player has to live up to the Lakers' standard of being a top-20 player of all time to get a statue, especially since he was a key part of a dynasty, both on the court and culturally.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40476501/sources-celtics-jayson-tatum-agrees-5-year-314m-extension

GOOD.

Enough of the FUD from national media and what's left of the local media. Donovan was absolutely coming back; Knicks moved on, Heat is in 1st apron, Lakers... never mind

Donovan has been saying and hinting a return from well before the playoffs were over. He essentially said this in his IG story after the signing.

Them bum ass trolls are in a pack.

Donovan's tweet announcing it was great too: https://vxtwitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1808122024805511659


JBB out, Kenny in (only reason the announcement was delayed, so that Kenny could have his day to shine). JA and DG NOT traded (and they better stay away from an Ingram deal).

Now it's time to get to business.

to snag Johnny Bryant away from the Knicks. I don't know much about how the Knicks operate in terms of their assistant coaches since the front office and coaches don't talk to the press in general, but it seemed as if Bryant was something of a Julius Randle whisperer; I remember reading a report on him telling Randle to shoot a ton more three pointers two seasons ago in order to spread out the floor for himself and the team. I'm almost certain he was close to getting the Knicks record for made three pointers before he got injured toward the end of that season.

I also think Bryant and Donovan Mitchell already had a connection from their Utah days.

Wonder what the hire means in terms of the prospects of the Cavs solidifying things with Garland.

The team is getting younger and more athletic. With CP3 and, well, Klay, too often they too slow out there. Pick-ups like Held, Anderson, and Melton should help with that.

Trading for Markkanen would be kinda huge if the Warriors could pull it off. It would give them size, more relative youth, and the legit #2 scorer they're looking for. What they're willing to give up obviously plays the biggest factor here. All talk has been the focus of the proposed trade has been draft-picks, but after the Knicks gave up five-rounders for Bridges, I worry that that becomes the new asking price. I'd also prefer if they didn't trade Kuminga, who, again, realy could make the leap this season. But that may well be what's needed to get it done. Can't call it from there.

Salt Lake City Stars

also Edey makes me think that given the type of bigs Memphis likes to run that he's gonna cook over there

Edy is gonna be a solid pro.

4 yrs 156 million...left possibly 113 mil on the table.

like, Willis Reed/Mark Messier/Bruno Sammartino tier

also sounds like more of a deferral, because in his option year he'll hit a bunch of triggers for close to a half billy

>4 yrs 156 million...left possibly 113 mil on the table.

Yeah, it's a gamble

But it gives the Knicks some real cap flexibility over the next few years as the cap increases and then he's able to sign a deal that pays him 80 million a year starting the 27/28 season, 17 more than if he'd waited.

It's a win win. He's generationally wealthy with this one deal and even if things go south, he's set for a few lifetimes.

As it stands, he positions his team to seriously contend and could make up those losses and then some on a later deal.

Oh, and he's basically enshrined himself as Knicks royalty by doing this.

The downside is minimal relative to the upside, which is serious.

.."his shooting pct??"

even some of the ones where the average fan doesn't really know what to expect.

Whitmore, Knecht and Sheppard really stand out.

but even the foreigners like Buzelis, Rissacher (sp?) and Sarr have all looked good to very good.

i know i'm missing some guys too. i've tried to pay attention but haven't caught everyone.

seems like, in a year where people (including me tbh) thought the draft prospects sucked, this could end up being a surprisingly talent-rich draft in hindsight in 3 to 5 years.

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He must remain the gym after that clunker he put up as number 2 pick.

if you guys take your left hand and make a circle, then take your right hand and with your index and middle finger penetrate the circle feverishly, thats what the New York Knickerbockers will be doing to the league all year if they can stay relatively healthy.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10126650-report-russell-westbrook-traded-to-jazz-expected-to-land-with-nuggets-after-buyout

maybe just bad luck but something to keep an eye on for sure.

he looks like it shoulda stayed that way.

Chicago got a steal.

clever work by the Klutch group fenagling Bron's way to flag bearer status

you know, the same thing the asshole poster tried to accuse Bron of doing

yeah well, Kobe bitch ass actually did that shit foreal

like we forgot.

remember? he was pissed the GOAT debate (at that time) was all about MJ and Bron and NOT his selfish ass

i aint forget.

* I assume

Now that you’re past the edit period, figured we’d just get it on the record.

I wonder if he'll be sluggish going into the start of the regular season.

>I wonder if he'll be sluggish going into the start of the
>regular season.

I have to imagine folks that support that Purple and Gold will think otherwise though.

Or maybe not. Not my problem as I'm a Knicks fan, so it's tough for me to put myself in the mindset of a Lakers fan going into the 24/25 season.

with a HEAVY dose of delusion

you’s a silly hoe

We'll struggle and people will be screaming all season for Pelinka to trade what few assets we have for Jerami Grant or Lavine or some bullshit just to give Bron the pretense of a real shot this year or the next.

This shit is over and we're his hostage until he retires.

>This shit is over and we're his hostage until he retires.

I like LeBron as a player, but the heavy baggage he brings in terms of the institutional deference it takes to satisfy him is annoying. He's a top 15 player now, not the best one who can nearly guarantee a Finals run or a chip.

Aside from that 2020 title, this team modeled their leadership style after Succession. Then again, the Buss' have always had more than enough drama, so I really shouldn't be surprised how things have played out.

I think the reality is that this franchise won at a truly exceptional and historic rate for over 30 years. Yes, we've been mismanaged over the last 15 years. But, even with Lakers Exceptionalism®, it just isn't possible to always be one of the top handful of teams with the rule changes and how competitive the teams are due to the massive sums of money invested by their governors.

It sucks to think this, but what we're experiencing is likely just a return to being a good team, just not a historically well-run one. We can dream of Jeannie throwing a bunch of money at Bob Myers to restore our shine, though.

That was fun af to watch. Bron & KD came out shooting perfect and it carried into the 2nd half dominance of a very good Serbian team.

Watching Bron, Steph & KD together in particular is extra special. To me it's on par with watching Jordan, Magic & Bird play together during the Dream Team in terms of all time pantheon greatness.

It's amazing to see how the game has grown globally since 1992. During the Dream Team run, they only faced 9 NBA players on opposing teams. Now? Team USA is facing 61 NBA players on opposing teams. The competition is an entirely different animal now - which is great for the game.

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As in, unnecessary controversy. Jayson Tatum being a bench warmer was not on my bingo card. White getting picked over Brown and Tatum getting ZERO mins is wild. A first team all-nba player getting zero playing time seems like a weird distraction to create.

bigs and guards vs Serbia, with more wings and athleticism tomorrow

and tbh, isnt it only a controversy if they lose?

it's not a controversy

it would be less respectful to play him for a couple minutes of garbage time

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it's one game. he's gonna play.

>That was fun af to watch. Bron & KD came out shooting
>perfect and it carried into the 2nd half dominance of a very
>good Serbian team.
>
>Watching Bron, Steph & KD together in particular is extra
>special. To me it's on par with watching Jordan, Magic & Bird
>play together during the Dream Team in terms of all time
>pantheon greatness.
>
>It's amazing to see how the game has grown globally since
>1992. During the Dream Team run, they only faced 9 NBA
>players on opposing teams. Now? Team USA is facing 61 NBA
>players on opposing teams. The competition is an entirely
>different animal now - which is great for the game.
>
>-->



With him on the court their +- was a zero

Soon as he got a breather … -26 lol

EPITOME of an MVP type player

one of these teams had KEVIN DURANT coming off the bench


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they beat up on a good team.

Everyone seems to be having a ball. They’ve bought in and want the medal. They’re almost all superstars and most are all stars. They’re having a lot of fun and it’s contagious to watch. I’m sure ego exists on the team, but the fun part of the Olympic team is the illusion the egos simply don’t exist.

Lots of cool shit on this team but it’s great to see the old dudes still being the best.

The fact he’s even on the team is questionable in itself



>Monty fired, which is insane, but expected. I’d say Cavs is
>the smart choice as far as open jobs are, but let’s be real.
>Wherever he goes he’ll be fired in 4 years if he’s lucky.
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>
>Coaching is a great gig if you want to get paid to fuck off,
>but not if you want long term stability.
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>https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40385485/sources-pistons-fire-coach-monty-williams-one-season

Honestly, it was so strange to me he missed one shot yesterday and had like a +20 or something. Just felt like every minute he was in the offense looked horrific.

It's KINDA funny though...especially now that when he does the arm thing, the bench is doing it too.

never understood the praise he gets

>never understood the praise he gets