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Topic subjectThis Cam Newton fight is…disappointing 😞
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2805247, This Cam Newton fight is…disappointing 😞
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-26-24 10:57 AM
that’s a whole, 35 year old, former NFL MVP getting jumped at a 7 on 7 event. What can make it get to this point? That said…Cam is a big brother.
https://x.com/ArtOfDialogue_/status/1761873680596918742?s=20
In this angle you can see he had one kid in a bear hug while pulling another kid by his dreads.
https://x.com/CourtAnne1225/status/1761884141283336695?s=20
2805248, I don’t think people realize how big Cam is
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Feb-26-24 11:05 AM
I remember going to a game with my dad, maybe 4 rows up and Cam and Kelvin Benjamin were standing maybe 40 yards from us my dad was like who tf is that besides Kelvin he big as fuck. It was Cam. 6’6 250 look CRAZY in person man he built like DCAU cartoon Superman.

All them clowns and they couldn’t even knock his good ass hat off
2805250, diude, you not lying....
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-26-24 11:26 AM
back in the Greatest Show on Turf Days...the Titans were here for a game and me and some of my homeys saw Eddie George and Jevon Kearse in street clothes. They didn't even look real, man.
2805252, Bruh, I played a pickup game with Todd Blackledge back in HS
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 11:50 AM
while he wasn’t anything special at basketball he was solid af.

2805347, It sunk in for me in the deestroying vids
Posted by Triptych, Fri Mar-01-24 10:49 AM
Cuz Dee is like 6'1" maybe, and in pro athlete shape, and Cam is MASSIVE standing next to him.
2805249, 7v7 seems out of control
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-26-24 11:23 AM
far as I know it isn't even regulated from state to state, so you have these "coaches" (who were the ones fighting a former NFL player) with no sort of training or even background checks starting shit
2805251, Fans been at camps disrespecting Cam since his rookie year.
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 11:43 AM
I don’t get it.

and I really don’t get how dude holds a 7 on 7 to help you get more exposure and skills and you try to square up with him.

These people really have no idea how big and strong some of these NFL QB’s are.

2805254, this is the 3rd camp altercation for Cam over the years, what is it?
Posted by seasoned vet, Mon Feb-26-24 12:00 PM
the first 2 were kids coming to camp to talk shit

as a kid i dreamed of going to MJs Flight Camp, i couldnt imagine going just to aggravate MJ and get kicked out.

this situation here involves older participants i guess but still
2805255, its cultural
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Feb-26-24 12:03 PM
you dont see shit like this happening to Peyton or Eli at their events
2805259, some folks get fighting mad when you mention culture
Posted by seasoned vet, Mon Feb-26-24 01:04 PM
gotta say, this time culture never crossed my mind

now that you say it, i wonder.
i think about the Katt Williams fight with that kid years back. similar situation no?

i couldnt imagine being a kid trying to fight a celebrity at an event
2805260, You also don’t see this happening with ANY other athlete but Cam
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 02:14 PM
this shit ain’t culture

its Cam talking shit back to kids who talk shit to him.

and you should be able to talk shit without throwing hands but these kids mad disrespectful.
2805268, are we ignoring how our culture emboldens the same youth to talk shit?
Posted by seasoned vet, Mon Feb-26-24 04:10 PM
not saying it is, but it could be.
2805270, are we really going to act like shit talking in sports is new?
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 04:35 PM
or driven by one culture?

This is like when NFL teams scrap in joint practices and folks try to make an example out of a select few and then former players say “hold up, we’ve never had a jojnt practice without a fight”

its like Steeler fans who shit on Tomlin’s players off field issues and say Noll would never.. while forgetting a player shot at a fucking police helicopter and Noll never benched him.

fighting at a football camp is normal.

Its just cause its Cam and he handled 3 dudes with a funny hat on that makes it sensational.
2805275, It's his hats.
Posted by GOMEZ, Mon Feb-26-24 06:32 PM
kidding of course, but watching him get into a tussle w/his fucked up hat of the day made me laugh a little. I wouldn't f**k w/him though. Dude is a beast. He's also criminally underrated by a lot of people considering how good he was.



2805256, A sad situation all around especially for the youth.
Posted by Kira, Mon Feb-26-24 12:09 PM
All of this attention should go towards them and their performance on the field. Focus on their development as young men on the field aspiring to play at the next level.

Everyone that jumped Cam should be ashamed as well. Now they embarrassed themselves and those associated with them. Cam is fine regardless but they have to go home to deal with consequences.

Cam doesn't have to be there. He can easily fall back and focus on other things.

2805258, Man listen.. fuck these no home training disrespectful lil bastids.
Posted by Beezo, Mon Feb-26-24 12:54 PM
With that said, I'm glad he tossed their asses around but you have to establish early that yall aren't equal.
I remember a clip from a few years ago at a camp or maybe it was this same tournament and those youngins were crackin jokes and talkin real slick to him and he was doing the same. Naw, nip that shit in the bud then and if they aren't listening remove yourself from it.
2805261, Is it the smile? The clothes? The confidence? People really hate Cam
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 02:27 PM
even in Charlotte Panther fans would be all “I LOVE THIS TEAM.. EXCEPT FOR CAM!!!”

Is it college?

Anyone remember Cam’s first pro bowl?

They were trying to kill that dude. Never seen a defense play like that in a pro bowl.

I’ve always been a Cam fan, half the reason is just because people hate him so much. How the hell do you swing on the man at HIS camp?

Heard he may have been breaking up a fight. I hope that is the case and they didn’t try to jump him.
2805262, I wish Cam would have stomped them dudes out
Posted by Ray_Snill, Mon Feb-26-24 02:52 PM




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2805267, i wanted him to throw one over the fence by their shirt
Posted by seasoned vet, Mon Feb-26-24 04:07 PM
i love trowing mfs into shit or over it, the look on their face is priceless
2805336, what part of the culture is this?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-29-24 09:25 PM
>i love trowing mfs into shit or over it, the look on their
>face is priceless

oh, the irony
2805342, further proof you have zero comprehension of my words.
Posted by seasoned vet, Fri Mar-01-24 01:44 AM
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2805264, wasn't he trying to breakup a fight?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Feb-26-24 03:28 PM
2805265, yeah, more than likely this is what happened
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 03:59 PM
but seeing him handle 3 dudes is a much better story.
2805269, according to this...
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-26-24 04:20 PM
a couple of the guys used to coach with him and bounced to form their own team. The two teams had just played, with the TSP squad defeating Cam's squad.
https://www.outkick.com/sports/shannon-sharpe-chad-ochocinco-cam-newton-fight-peyton-and-eli
2805272, Damn.. so if this is true its a bad look for Cam
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 04:40 PM
this aint even the kids, its the coaches

and like I said earlier, you don’t see other NFL players getting this type of energy. Only Cam. He plays into it too do he isn’t exactly innocent.

2805271, This how I see the Russell Wilson vs Future fight playing out lol
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-26-24 04:37 PM
Russ isn’t as big as cam obviously. But people were talking like future would win a potential fight

No way fam
2805273, It’s funny when people think rappers are tough
Posted by DJR, Mon Feb-26-24 05:47 PM
because they swear a lot or something.

2805274, there’s a message in there, we’ll ignore it though.
Posted by seasoned vet, Mon Feb-26-24 06:22 PM
2805276, I just had this conversation with a young cat on the job
Posted by Ray_Snill, Mon Feb-26-24 09:34 PM
me, another older cat and a couple young dudes were trying to tell a "street" cat that Russ would body future in a fight. Russ is a professional athlete in possibly the best shape of his life. he gets paid to get knocked around by other 280 pound athletes




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2805280, The culture folks are forgetting for most of Cam’s camp issues
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Feb-27-24 03:18 PM
is internet culture.

most these kids who argue with Cam are trying to get views for IG or know someone is videotaping.

and lets not talk about all the white adults talking mad racist shit to Cam and other athletes (especially at NBA games where they know players can hear it.

Still not even sure these were kids fighting or coaches but if its coaches.. we all got duped due to Cam making them look like childs play.
2805297, It's cultural man. Josh Allen won't have to go through this type of stuff
Posted by The Bobblehead Man, Wed Feb-28-24 04:06 PM
The respect isn't there, and you learn that in the home. If these young men don't have a mentally stable male role model then all they know how to do is CHALLENGE another male. The young men with healthy male role models would want to catch Cam's eye with their talent.
2805301, Anyone challenging Russell Wilson? What about Lamar Jackson?
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Feb-28-24 07:00 PM
Jaylen Hurts?
Tua?
Tyrod?
Brissett?
Mahomes?

14 Black QBs started the season this year.

Its only Cam.

and one of the stories floating is Cam was popping off talking shit and it was actually coaches he used to work with and not kids.

Maybe there is a reason Cam is always the one in the middle of this stuff?

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/494/051/19ae68aad58b9c4868a8800e25002640_crop_north.png?1439223745&w=3072&h=2048

2805315, Save your whataboutisms. I've had my life threatened in front of my child
Posted by The Bobblehead Man, Thu Feb-29-24 11:51 AM
simply because I ask for a certain type respect. Unfortunately the type of respect that I want doesn't appear magically, SOMEONE has to teach it. If you are taught to think you prove manhood by challenging another man, you're likely to challenge my requests for respect. For the most part that's how these situations go.

You should count up the 1000's of prickish white athletes that have camps and see how many articles you can find about them being assaulted.
2805325, he wont. any talk of looking within our OWN culture incites rage w/ him
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu Feb-29-24 03:58 PM
these types of black folks are deeply committed to keeping our people exactly where we are in society.
they have zero interest in our culture evolving or learning to navigate society in a way that causes us LESS harm.

they keep a whataboutism in their back pocket

in their mind, any talk of culture means you’re a conservative or yt.
2805332, are y'all serious?
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Feb-29-24 07:37 PM
this is a really specific issue

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
2805333, RE: are y'all serious?
Posted by seasoned vet, Thu Feb-29-24 08:13 PM
about Legs? yep. every word.

now Cam? i stated above that culture never crossed my mind.
i dont think its *only* culture. but discussing culture, specifically things we can improve to avoid situations, i dont shy away from.

Legs turns into a silverback when he sees our cultures reflection in the mirror. Fuck him and any nigga that thinks like him.
2805346, Dude brought up Josh Allen
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-01-24 08:37 AM
and then pivots to personal beef when I ask him about all these other Black QB’s who we never hear about getting attacked at camps.

No idea what happened in his personal altercation but “demanding respect” kinda plays into the culture they are criticizing.

2805353, this is smelling respectability politics as shit
Posted by Beamer6178, Fri Mar-01-24 03:43 PM
>these types of black folks are deeply committed to keeping
>our people exactly where we are in society.
>they have zero interest in our culture evolving or learning to
>navigate society in a way that causes us LESS harm.

it is not BLACK people who need to evolve. these "cultural" issues are not a pathology, it's a response to state sanctioned apartheid. there is a self hatred at play when an incident involving Black people is automatically a reflection on "the Culture." How many camps have been held and how many of them have had issues? Wouldn't quite call it a pandemic.

And considering we're talking about NFL players, who do a lot of criminal/civilly foul shit, how folks are to comport themselves is quite humorous.
2805357, its his thing
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-01-24 04:04 PM
someone Black does something and he goes full Bill Cosby waving his finger at Black folks and their gotdamn Black ass culture.

Adults fighting at a sports event? Yeah, that never happens.

2805427, thats your upper lip. i dont do respectability politics nor Cosby rhetoric
Posted by seasoned vet, Mon Mar-04-24 08:11 AM
you on that Legsdiamond, accusing instead of asking what you dont understand
2805335, you brought up Josh Allen so I asked about other Black QB's
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-29-24 09:20 PM
and since you can't give any other examples you have to change it to a personal experience.

All this yapping about kids lacking respect and culture and its just 3 grown men fighting at a football camp.

sorry you got into it with someone else because you demanded respect but that aint got shit to do with this story.




2805605, The way we engage shows the lack of respect I speak of
Posted by The Bobblehead Man, Sat Mar-09-24 10:27 AM
The contentiousness of it. Your sassy swipe at my personal experience. We should be in a better place. Most of the people who come here are more similar than not but niggas are trained to go at each other.
2805610, I asked about other Black QB's, you told me to save my whataboutisms
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Mar-09-24 04:37 PM
I never called you out of your name.

disagreeing about a topic isn't going at each other.

Look who is doing most of the name calling in this thread. It's the guy who always blames Black culture.

Could it simply be that you got upset because I asked about other Black QB's experiences and you didn't have any other examples?

Cam deals with this more often because Cam talks shit. He likes to trash talk. I even pointed out how Cam had issues at his first pro bowl. Other players didn't like the way he carried himself. He refused to autograph things or take photos with HOF football players.

It's not culture, it's CAM NEWTON.



2805302, interview from Topshelf Performance
Posted by seasoned vet, Wed Feb-28-24 10:24 PM
https://youtu.be/KraogjlLIVA?si=NLXLPikHEHd2931O
2805334, Another problem. Giving clowns a platform to speak
Posted by Beezo, Thu Feb-29-24 09:03 PM
Right after doing some clown shit. Ridiculous.
2805337, so are we still blaming Black kids for jumping Cam at his 7 on 7
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-29-24 09:35 PM

niggas ran in quick to dog out the children and the culture...

gotdamn.. smh.
2805341, like how you ran in quick to blame the media in the Fanni Willis thread?
Posted by seasoned vet, Fri Mar-01-24 01:42 AM
and now you trying to save face in that same thread?

like that?
or not like that?

questioning the culture isnt dogging out anything. its only dogging out because you cant comprehend it.
2805345, changing views as a story unfolds over time isn’t saving face
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-01-24 06:36 AM
but even if you want to call it that, its still better than doubling down AFTER more facts are uncovered.







2805343, I'm just glad it didnt end with gunfire, like the Aquib Talib situation
Posted by guru0509, Fri Mar-01-24 02:19 AM
>that’s a whole, 35 year old, former NFL MVP getting jumped
>at a 7 on 7 event. What can make it get to this point? That
>said…Cam is a big brother.
>https://x.com/ArtOfDialogue_/status/1761873680596918742?s=20
>In this angle you can see he had one kid in a bear hug while
>pulling another kid by his dreads.
>https://x.com/CourtAnne1225/status/1761884141283336695?s=20
2805356, Cam apologizes - good to see him own it.
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Mar-01-24 04:00 PM
Cam Newton apologized for his role in a scuffle at a 7-on-7 youth football tournament over the weekend, saying "there's no excuse" for his actions.

Video from the Atlanta tournament surfaced Sunday that showed Newton being shoved by three people near the top of a set of steps before the pushing, shoving and grabbing moved toward a fence line. The video lasted less than 30 seconds before the altercation was broken up by a police officer and event security personnel.


Speaking about the incident on an episode of his YouTube show "4th and 1" that was published Friday, Newton said he "let my emotions get the best of me."

"It should not have been called for. Simple. And with that, I apologize to anybody affected," Newton said, naming event organizers, players and parents among those he was issuing his apology to.

Newton, the No. 1 pick in the 2011 NFL draft out of Auburn, did not appear to throw any punches in the video and seemed to be fending off three other people.

It was not clear what started the altercation. Newton did not directly explain that in his show, saying only that the situation "starts with words and it should have ended with words."

He also acknowledged that the scuffle could have gotten worse and that his involvement makes it harder for him to act as an example to younger players.

"I can't sit up there and say, 'Hey, bro, you got to be bigger than that,' and then all of a sudden I do that -- and that just goes to show you you've got to always stay in control of your emotions," he said.

Newton hasn't played in the NFL since 2021, when he spent a portion of the season with the Carolina Panthers, the same team that drafted him.

He has played 11 seasons in the NFL, throwing for more than 32,000 yards and 194 touchdowns. He also ran for 75 touchdowns during his time with the Panthers and New England Patriots.

Newton, who is from Atlanta, runs C1N, an organization founded in 2021 that focuses on developing young athletes' skills in football by providing opportunities to compete at the highest level through 7-on-7 tournaments and other events, according to Newton's website. His 15-and-under team won the championship at the event, according to a post by Newton on X.
2805512, the other folks also apologized in a radio interview.
Posted by tariqhu, Tue Mar-05-24 01:57 PM
now they should apologize to each other in person to each other and in front of the kids and parents since that's where the fight happened.
2805515, apology tour 2024
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Mar-05-24 02:36 PM