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2804750, Super Bowl 58: Dynasty vs. Destiny
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 06:04 PM
All the shit to say has been said.

A ring for the Niners would be a reward well deserved for those players and for Lynch/Shanahan, who have done an amazing job putting together this behemoth.

A third ring for Andy, Mahomes and Maauto would put them in a different tier of champion.

Line em' up!! (c) Let's get it!

2804751, this will be a good time passer until episode 2 of Curb at 10 PM
Posted by DJR, Sun Feb-11-24 06:16 PM
I’m tired of the Chiefs and I dislike them, and the Niners are an old Giants rival, and I have an obnoxious coworker who is the worst type of sports fan I know….so I have no real rooting interests. Its Chiefs out of spite. Wish we got Bills - Lions or something.

Also, I’m gonna need Usher to limit his bullshit songs to “Yeah”. I understand he’s gotta do that one. No “OMG” or “DJ Got Us Falling in Love” though. Fuck all that, do your classic R&B shit.
2804803, RE: this will be a good time passer until episode 2 of Curb at 10 PM
Posted by Beamer6178, Mon Feb-12-24 12:53 AM
awwww shit my nigga larry david back again???
2804752, Meh. I’m still salty about the Lions loss a couple weeks ago.
Posted by soulfunk, Sun Feb-11-24 06:18 PM
2804753, WOAT anthem, that guy really sucks
Posted by DJR, Sun Feb-11-24 06:25 PM
2804831, Reba?
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-12-24 11:26 AM
2804856, Ha, I meant Post Malone
Posted by DJR, Mon Feb-12-24 02:40 PM
Said “anthem” by mistake.
2804754, interested to see how each side starts out
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 06:25 PM
Kansas City has been ruthless from the beginning of each playoff game and dialed in

San Francisco has dicked around the entire first halves of their playoff games
2804756, SF still dicking around
Posted by DJR, Sun Feb-11-24 06:44 PM
2804758, yeah, SF dicking around again
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 06:44 PM
soft ass fumble
2804755, Well, shit
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 06:44 PM
.
2804757, Jesus. Here we go....
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 06:44 PM
It's like teams do whatever they shoudlnt do against the Chiefs
2804759, Niner defense came out like they heard the discussion
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Feb-11-24 06:48 PM
About damn time too
2804761, yeah they're hitting
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 07:22 PM
the fact they were jogging around against the Lions was mystifying
2804760, Whoa! When did you get an ok?
Posted by SuiteLady, Sun Feb-11-24 06:58 PM
2804772, Few days ago
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 07:51 PM
.
2804762, Kelce just allowed to scream and bump his coach?
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 07:31 PM
2804777, never seen that with Reid
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 08:12 PM
Kelce looks unhinged and should be roasted for it
2804781, Broadcast made sure to bury that sh*t
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 08:58 PM
Anyone else other than Kelce/Swift and they're showing clips every five mins and cutting to the sideline reporter. They showed it once and not a peep since.
2804763, the fuck? these offenses playing fucking rugby out there
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 07:32 PM
hold onto the ball
2804764, Damn! Getting hurt running onto the field?
Posted by DJR, Sun Feb-11-24 07:35 PM
Gotta feel for the guy, that really sucks.
2804765, OMG!!! Greenlaw out like that?? That’s so fucking cruel.
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 07:36 PM
.
2804766, Is it possible Chase Young gives a shit for just one game
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Feb-11-24 07:37 PM
This is about 95% copium
2804768, Dude looks like a completely different player. Lol
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 07:39 PM
I guess getting called out this week made a difference.
2804769, This is what it was supposed to look like
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Feb-11-24 07:41 PM
>I guess getting called out this week made a difference.


He just needs a Super Bowl every week I guess

Otherwise bye
2804767, Sit his ass down
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Feb-11-24 07:39 PM
Oh god if we can get home with four tonight 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
2804770, Jauan Jennings was recruited as a QB out of HS
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 07:50 PM
although you could never tell by that pass
2804774, Haha it looked like he was hit as he threw it
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Feb-11-24 07:52 PM
In fairness
2804775, That thing floated for like five mins. Ha
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 07:56 PM
2804771, CMC hit that Rocky in the Lamborghini, 8th gear
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 07:50 PM
.
2804773, Spags makes me nervous. But we dictating terms right now
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Feb-11-24 07:51 PM
And the D is flying around pissed that they heard America talking shit

2804776, Chiefs playing shook, 49ers relaxed
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 08:11 PM
aside from that first CMC fumble the 49ers have executed miles better

Chiefs are committing stupid penalties, back dropping passes and Kelce looks like he did PCP before the game
2804778, Is Romo high? Drunk?
Posted by DJR, Sun Feb-11-24 08:17 PM
He sounds like an idiot, he won’t shutup, he hasn’t said one insightful thing, and he’s saying things that don’t even make sense. And he was horribly singing to Adele as they went to commercial.

He’s ruining this game for me.
2804786, he's awful
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Feb-11-24 09:32 PM
but apparently people think he's a great announcer?

he annoys the shit out of me
2804779, yeah Mahomes is rattled
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 08:47 PM
hesitant with everything
2804780, Spags gotta go get that man, only way they gonna have a chance
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 08:48 PM
.
2804782, Shanahan abandoning the run again *smh*
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 09:10 PM
Why are you throwing screen passes on first down? Give the fucking ball to CMC
2804783, Feels like 49ers offense just needs ONE drive to win this.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 09:21 PM
2804784, Welp
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Feb-11-24 09:22 PM
2804787, That crosser to Rice…🤌🏾
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 10:41 PM
.
2804885, Man i feel like this is a play where we missed greenlaw most
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon Feb-12-24 05:26 PM
feel like he would have diagnosed that quicker and found a way to rub him off the route as i believe it was inside 5 yds.
2804788, Patrick Fucking Mahomes
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 10:46 PM
.
2804789, icey
Posted by will_5198, Sun Feb-11-24 10:47 PM
GOAT shit
2804812, A God
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-12-24 07:06 AM
2804790, Well that got good
Posted by DJR, Sun Feb-11-24 10:48 PM
2804791, Congratulations, Kansas City Chiefs on winning your 3rd title in 5 seasons.
Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Sun Feb-11-24 10:48 PM
2804792, delete.
Posted by PROMO, Sun Feb-11-24 10:48 PM
i was corrected.
2804793, lol @ 49ers 😂 …(*paging KCPlayer21*)
Posted by guru0509, Sun Feb-11-24 10:50 PM


>All the shit to say has been said.
>
>A ring for the Niners would be a reward well deserved for
>those players and for Lynch/Shanahan, who have done an amazing
>job putting together this behemoth.
>
>A third ring for Andy, Mahomes and Maauto would put them in a
>different tier of champion.
>
>Line em' up!! (c) Let's get it!
>
>
2804810, You waited til the game was over this time lol
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-12-24 07:04 AM
Last time you jinxed it

Also you gonna hate Bay Area teams forever all because of me lmao
2804813, I don’t post on OKP while watching an intriguing Super Bowl
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 07:24 AM
>
Keep crying from your bipped Kia 😂

2804815, This is the energy you bring on your perpetual first dates
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-12-24 07:35 AM
I feel bad for you man

I really do.
2804816, Amritsar being creepy in GD and OKSports , some things never change
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 07:57 AM
I’ve been off the market . I’m young rich and handsome and the watch on my wrist is worth more than your life 😂

If you want personal details about me , ask some of the OKPs who know me off the boards

Just because you interject every post of yours with details about your “wife” 😂 doesn’t mean I have to

Don’t be mad SF is a shitty hellhole and the butt of jokes / criticism from the rest of the country , and now the Niners are the 2000s Buffalo 🦬 Bills
2804898, I kind of assume you meant 1990s Bills, but hasn't OSU
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon Feb-12-24 11:49 PM
resembled that a lot lately to.

2804899, I criticize tf out of Ohio State / Ryan Day
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 11:57 PM
>resembled that a lot lately to.
>
>

Much to the chagrin of other Ohio state posters

But we’ve won two national titles in 10 years apart

I’ve called TOSU football the Kentucky of college football as of late , all these first round picks and only nothing to show for it

I’ve repeatedly said Urban underachieved w the talent he had (but he beat Michigan like a drum so I could cope that way , but now we can’t even do that )

2804794, i mean, not really psyched the Chiefs won.
Posted by PROMO, Sun Feb-11-24 10:51 PM
but definitely happy the Niners didn't.

Go Hawks.
2804795, most ass team of the Mahomes era on offense. Still a championship
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Feb-11-24 11:05 PM
against a defense that was keeping them scoreless for most of a half. and still was fucking them up AFTER the Greenlaw injury.

all I'm gonna say for now.

GG, Chiefs.

On to the offseason.
2804796, Remember when the Chiefs lost to the Raiders on Christmas Day…
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 11:15 PM
at home. Patrick threw a pick 6 and dude styled on him, on the return. On Christmas Day they were 9-6…they never lost again.
2804806, twas a beautiful Christmas
Posted by Mynoriti, Mon Feb-12-24 01:34 AM
somehow makes this slightly easier to swallow

I mainly "rooted" for the Chiefs since I have way too many annoying inner fans in my life, but overall it's gross to have these 2 teams plastered all over house . Gtfo, fuckin squatters
2804825, that was a special day.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 09:42 AM
2804797, Chris Berman is a tough watch…sheesh
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-11-24 11:27 PM
.
2804814, Yep time to hang it up
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-12-24 07:34 AM
2804798, With the new OT rules, not sure why you wouldnt want the ball 2nd
Posted by Cenario, Sun Feb-11-24 11:47 PM
If the other team scores, you get to play with 4 fowns instead of 3, pkus you have the chance of your defense scoring/forcing a turnover.
2804805, Good point
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon Feb-12-24 01:11 AM
I also did not think about the fact that the chiefs did not need to use a TO at the end of the "1st qtr of OT" i thought if the period had expired it would have been over.
2804807, i was freaking out about that LOL...
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 02:01 AM
just on some would be the most epic of fails, then someone pointed out to me that it wouldn't have ended the game because it was still their first possession and the time would have just reset to 15 mins if the game were to continue.
2804828, IMO it is a huge advantage to know what you need to tie or win
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 11:12 AM
Kyle said after the game they took the ball because they wanted the third possession if it came to that...which is not the worst explanation I've heard but I'm sure there is not enough data to defend that decision
2804829, Hmmm. The 3rd possession makes sense generally
Posted by Cenario, Mon Feb-12-24 11:21 AM
I hadnt thought about that. The way both defenses were playing, not sure how likely there'd be scores on 3 straight possessions.

2804832, that argument, while understood, has been shot down...
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 11:27 AM
as many football minds have pointed out that the 3rd possession would likely never come as any coach in their right mind is going for 2 and the win had both teams scored a TD.

don't argue with me (not saying you will), i'm just repeating what many have said already.
2804836, good point about the two-point conversion
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 11:34 AM
for future reference I guess there is literally no reason to receive first
2804890, Shit didn't think about that either, but there still could have
Posted by Cenario, Mon Feb-12-24 06:31 PM
Been two field goals
2804834, Why is there a clock?
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-12-24 11:28 AM
2804848, I believe its played like another half.
Posted by Cenario, Mon Feb-12-24 02:09 PM
So time expires after the 2nd OT qtr and then the 3rd OT would be a new half but yeah, at that point dont make 2 teams that cant score have to start from scratch, which yeah makes the whole clock shit moot.

Just play until whatevr that needs to happen, happens
2804871, side of field would change after each quarter, right?
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 03:47 PM
2804800, Honestly, I'm not even mad. Just disappointed
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 12:21 AM
Niners played well enough to win. Overall, D was better than it had been in weeks. Purdy overall played well. CMC did his thing. Maholmes just had too many chances.

How am I supposed to be mad at? CMC for fumbling on the first drive of the game. He beasted out the rest of the game and helped Niners play as well as they did. Moody for kicking the extra point too low? He made two monster FGs earlier in the game. I can't put it on Mc Cloud for not diving on the ball after it ricochetted off of dudes foot. Play happened really fast. I guess I could be at the league for ever fucking with the OT rules, but that would be petty and dumb on my part.

So, yeah. We played well. Maholmes is just an excellent QB.

I'm mostly disappointed because this was probably our best chance to win it. I'm hoping we can back, but it's going to get tougher and tougher to keep everyone.
2804801, Shanahan lost it to me.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 12:27 AM
got a little pass happy in a few spots when the Chiefs couldn't really stop the run, and it ended up costing them.
2804802, I mean, they scored when they needed to, so that doesn’t hold for me.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 12:43 AM
And being on some “Fire Shannahan shit” would be the wrong way to go.
2804822, Are you hearing that from folk in y’all’s fan base….
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-12-24 09:06 AM
cuz, that’s absolutely insane. I’d pay a monthly subscription to Jerry Jones, if it would help us get Kyle Shanahan as the HC.
2804837, Fortunately, no
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 11:38 AM
Mostly from pundits who feel like someone needs to be blamed and other bitter ass fans of loser teams that the Niners beat (not referring to you).
2804842, Wilkes is gonna be gone i think
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon Feb-12-24 01:00 PM
2804850, That really doesn't seem "fair" though.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 02:10 PM
Our defense was great most of the game.

Firing Wilks isn't going to help much.
2804886, I get it, but i think the regression of the pass rush
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon Feb-12-24 05:28 PM
and the secondary not being able to hold up if we don't get there are gonna have them looking for someone new. He has a DB background and our DBs were the weak link in the D most of the year. Once KC got away from the run Pat chopped up our zone when needed.
2804804, Felt like the NFC championship loss against the giants
Posted by josephmurf2384, Mon Feb-12-24 01:01 AM
Didn't feel like we were outplayed, in fact felt like we dominated 2.5 quarters of the game. I mean obviously we can complain about play calls, but we know who Kyle is, he wants to be the smartest person in the room.

On 3rd and 4 inside their 10 i would say you call some kind of run. (you know Spags was sending the house gotta call something quick not at the end zone) Or if you do call a pass have CMC motion behind Purdy and not in front where they can cut the edge off and he is an option on the screen. If CMC can just fight for 2 yds there you go for it on 4th and if they stop you they get the ball on their own 3-5 and have to drive 95 yds.

Overall, proud of the team, gotta wonder what happens if Dre doesn't tear an Achilles running onto the field.

Kyle's gonna have to write a new story cause this shit is painful.
2804826, 49ers definitely outplayed them for large parts of the game
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 11:01 AM
>Didn't feel like we were outplayed, in fact felt like we
>dominated 2.5 quarters of the game.

but definitely got unlucky with the Greenlaw injury and punt return turnover

sort of the opposite of their other two playoff wins, where Green Bay and Detroit both outplayed San Francisco for large parts of the game but the 49ers got the lucky bounces
2804847, That was worse for me.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 02:08 PM
That actually might have been my favorite since the late 1980s/mid 1990s. Especially the defensive squad. We just got unlucky/Kyle Williams let the ball bounce of his knee. This game? We mostly got beat by a great QB.

>Overall, proud of the team, gotta wonder what happens if Dre
>doesn't tear an Achilles running onto the field.

That really sucked, but I really try not to get caught up hypotheticals. Like, let's that extra point doesn't get blocked. Am I really going to believe that Mahomes wouldn't have tried and probably made one of a couple of extra shots into the endzone?
2804811, ^^
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-12-24 07:05 AM
2804809, Thank God the NFL revised their overtime rules to be more collegiate like
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 03:02 AM
That whole sudden death where the winner was largely based on who won the coin toss was the most dumbest shit ever

This made overtime so much more exciting and actually puts more pressure on teams to execute game plans rather than getting into a field position game and coming down to who has the kicker w the stronger leg 🦵
2804817, Mahomes is Jordan - Bomani
Posted by Amritsar, Mon Feb-12-24 08:13 AM
Here to rule our lives for the next decade or so.

After we won the NFCG my first thought was, “but Mahomes”

They moved on from Tyreek and put that money into the defense. We are all so fucked lol
2804819, Lions woulda won that game 42-16.
Posted by soulfunk, Mon Feb-12-24 08:48 AM
2804821, i kind of agree.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 09:04 AM
2804838, Gee golly, too bad they lost.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 11:39 AM
2804844, U ok?
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-12-24 01:27 PM
2804845, This would have been a fitting reply to #65
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 01:49 PM
2804853, So no
Posted by Ceej, Mon Feb-12-24 02:19 PM
2804854, Kinda sad to see Lions fans become Eagles fans
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 02:23 PM
2804855, CMON. This was our first playoff run in 30+ years. Let us
Posted by soulfunk, Mon Feb-12-24 02:33 PM
be mad and sulk about what could have been in peace. because I'm just thinking bout how close we really came. After seeing zero post-season hope for this team my whole life. Even after that one playoff win we had in the 1991 season we knew we were bout to get blown out by Washington in the NFC Championship, and we did.

But this year? We shoulda won that 49ers game. Coulda beat the Chiefs too. So Ima sit here and sulk in my woulda coulda shoulda mode. After this year though we can't say it's our first time.
2804904, lol right, we were playing with house money 💰
Posted by guru0509, Tue Feb-13-24 10:50 AM
these 9ers fans are clearly hurt and incapable/ in denial of realizing how absolutely stupid their head coach is for his overtime choices 😂 or the fact he failed to prepare his team for this scenario

>be mad and sulk about what could have been in peace. because
>I'm just thinking bout how close we really came. After seeing
>zero post-season hope for this team my whole life. Even after
>that one playoff win we had in the 1991 season we knew we were
>bout to get blown out by Washington in the NFC Championship,
>and we did.
>
>But this year? We shoulda won that 49ers game. Coulda beat the
>Chiefs too. So Ima sit here and sulk in my woulda coulda
>shoulda mode. After this year though we can't say it's our
>first time.
2804820, 3/7
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Mon Feb-12-24 08:58 AM
2804827, Kelce going AB swept under the rug in victory
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 11:04 AM
Reid covered for him and Kelce just laughed it off

“He keeps me young,” Reid joked of Kelce. “He tested that hip out. He caught me off balance – normally, I’d give him a little bit, but I didn’t have any feet under me.”

“You guys saw that? I’m going to keep it between us unless my mic’d up tells the world," said Kelce. "I was just telling him how much I loved him.”
2804833, Multiple 49ers players didnt know the overtime rules (swipe)
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 11:27 AM
"professionals" not knowing the rules to the sport they get paid millions to play?

LOL, hilarisad.

edit link https://sports.yahoo.com/super-bowl-several-49ers-players-admitted-they-didnt-know-new-rules-when-ot-started-151052094.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super-bowl/2024/02/12/49ers-players-say-they-didnt-know-super-bowl-ot-rules/72569082007/


Super Bowl: Several 49ers players admitted they didn't know new rules when OT started
Liz Roscher
Staff writer
Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 9:31 PM GMT+5:30·3 min read


We got to see the NFL's new playoff overtime rules in action on Sunday when the San Francisco 49ers failed to win the 2024 Super Bowl against the Kansas City Chiefs, a result that seemed pretty much inevitable once Niners head coach Kyle Shanahan chose to take the ball first in overtime. San Francisco's first (and only) overtime possession resulted in a field goal, while the Chiefs scored the game-winning touchdown.

It was the first time a playoff game had gone into overtime since the NFL adopted new rules in 2022, which give both teams a chance to possess the ball. Prior to that, the first team to score a touchdown in overtime would win the game.

Even though the new rules have been around for two seasons now, some 49ers players were still living in 2021. After their 25-22 loss, several told Lindsay Jones of The Ringer that they didn't know there were new overtime rules specifically for the playoffs.

Multiple San Francisco players said after the game that they were not aware that the overtime rules are different in the playoffs than they are in the regular season, and strategy discussions over how to handle the overtime period did not occur as a team. Defensive lineman Arik Armstead said he learned the details of the postseason rule when it was shown on the Allegiant Stadium jumbotron during a TV timeout after regulation. Fullback Kyle Juszczyk said he assumed the 49ers asked to receive when they won the toss because that’s what you do in the regular season, when a touchdown wins the game. “I guess that’s not the case. I don’t really know the strategy,” Juszczyk said.

Shanahan knew the strategy, but it hadn't filtered down to all the players. The Chiefs, on the other hand, had been running Super Bowl overtime drills since training camp, and spent significant time over the past few weeks discussing the strategy.

The Chiefs’ overtime plan worked out exactly how they had hoped—and it wasn’t by accident. Kansas City safety Justin Reid told The Ringer that the Chiefs had first discussed the new overtime rules as far back as training camp. Defensive lineman Chris Jones told me players were prepared for what to expect if the Super Bowl went to overtime.

“We talked through this for two weeks,” Jones said. “How we was going to give the ball to the opponent; if they scored, we was going for two at the end of the game. We rehearsed it.”

Given that several Niners players admitted they didn't know the OT rules, the last 5-10 minutes of the game could have been wildly different than what we saw. If San Francisco had scored a TD on their first possession instead of a field goal, there likely would have been several players celebrating on the sideline like they'd literally just won the Super Bowl, when they in fact still had to give the ball back to the Chiefs.

At least with the way it turned out, the Niners only have to deal with losing the Super Bowl, instead of losing the Super Bowl and embarrassing themselves by not knowing the rules of the very game they play for a living. Every storm cloud has a silver lining, right?

2804835, this would have been funny as hell
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 11:33 AM
>If San Francisco had
>scored a TD on their first possession instead of a field goal,
>there likely would have been several players celebrating on
>the sideline like they'd literally just won the Super Bowl,
>when they in fact still had to give the ball back to the
>Chiefs.
2804839, Absolutely
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Mon Feb-12-24 12:10 PM
2804846, Isn't this on the great Kyle Shanahan?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Feb-12-24 02:00 PM
2804852, 💯 , A Reid was licking his chops the second Shanahan chose to receive
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 02:11 PM
>


2804851, Sad but sadly, not shocking
Posted by Cenario, Mon Feb-12-24 02:11 PM
Some players just dont care
2804897, “negligence of duty” - SAS & Sharpe
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 11:28 PM
>Some players just dont care

(Denver) Mike Shanahan was a perfectionist, he would have had his players ready and aware of all the rule changes

Same w Harbaugh

Kyle Shanahan fucked this one up , royally .

https://youtu.be/m6PtAViUZSo?si=v6HXBrRhvx8okS6O



2804894, Sports outlets/pudnits made a mountain out of a molehill here
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Feb-12-24 07:29 PM
It did not change the way that overtime was played at all.

Shoot, Hardman wasn't aware that he'd won the SB when he made the catch.
2804895, lol whatever helps you cope nm
Posted by guru0509, Mon Feb-12-24 07:32 PM
>It did not change the way that overtime was played at all.
>
>Shoot, Hardman wasn't aware that he'd won the SB when he made
>the catch.
2804918, Oh., you're one of those sad and angry Lions fans. No wonder
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Feb-13-24 02:05 PM
2804939, Im a casual lions fan , haven’t been emotionally invested since high school
Posted by guru0509, Wed Feb-14-24 04:22 AM
Didn’t even watch the game in Thailand

But 9ers , coaches and players (edit except Bosa and Young) and fans are incredibly obtuse / incapable of understanding football strategy 101 as we’ve all witnessed from the game to this thread

lol like I said , whatever helps you cope…1995 was a looong time ago. I understand your misery.
2804841, that greenlaw injury was crazy and random
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Feb-12-24 12:51 PM
2804843, RE: that greenlaw injury was crazy and random
Posted by jimaveli, Mon Feb-12-24 01:21 PM
>

It sucks so much. He tried to play through the injury all playoffs basically and ended up tearing it in the most random way possible.

I was horrified for the Niners all game long. That injury made their downfall defensively feel borderline inevitable. And still, they fought like crazy and had a few shots at it. But CMC fumbling, Brock missing a couple of throws where Shanny drew up a touchdown, etc al helped give Pat and them a chance to ‘steal’ another one. If I’m up on KC, I might get my Dan Campbell on trying to extend the lead! Hehe

What a game.
2804901, The worst :(
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Feb-13-24 06:39 AM
2804849, Are people really criticizing Shanahan for taking the ball in OT?
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 02:09 PM
People are taking this shit way too far with this. Every talking head today is like " he should have deferred and knew what he had to match".

That's absolutely ridiculous. You take the ball and you go try to score whichever way you can and you PLAY DEFENSE. Even if you defer there's no guarantee if the other team scores that you are going to match that score.

There's not a better chance you will match the score than getting a stop. Especially if it's a touchdown.

The odds aren't that much better. We don't even have the data yet to really quantify it. It's a new rule and this is the first time we saw it in action.

People make me sick with this shit.
2804857, yes. it was the wrong decision. why are you so upset about it?
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 02:43 PM
yes, you're right. there's no guarantees in anything.

it's STILL the wrong decision.
2804858, For me, the difference is if you go 2nd on offense
Posted by calij81, Mon Feb-12-24 02:56 PM
Once the Niners scored a FG, KC had the advantage of using all 4 downs to try to get a 1st down and score.

2804859, that's exactly why it matters.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 03:00 PM
because a) you know what points you need and b) you can expand the playbook if it's win or lose because you have an extra down to play with.

it's not complicated and why anyone would be mad about this is being weird (or maybe just a pissed off Niners fan? i dunno).
2804860, It doesn't matter....
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 03:09 PM
You either execute or you don't. You can use all 4 downs if you get the ball first too. They went for it on 4th down to go up during regulation. People pick and choose what they think is smart based on some hypothetical nonsense.

All of this is biased based on success. If it works you're a genius and if it doesn't it was dumb. Which again you just have to execute.


One way or another if you don't defend you're done.
2804862, nah, it doesn't make sense to go on offense first
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 03:15 PM
yes, of course "you have to play football" but I don't see any advantage to being first. you're saying being first or second doesn't dictate the outcome, and I agree, but being second is advantageous.
2804863, So if you go second and you don't score.....
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 03:24 PM
What difference does it make? Saying you know what you have to do and you will play with more urgency and use more downs shouldn't even be part of the argument. You should playing like that anyway whether you go first or second.

There's no clear advantage if you can the other team can get a stop and you can still lose. If the first team scores a TD how is it an advantage to have to match that?

The first team gets to have their lead and focus only on keeping the other team out of the endzone. I like those odds just as much.
2804865, going second means you know exactly what ends the game
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 03:32 PM
and you can end it on your terms with the ball in your hands.

>What difference does it make? Saying you know what you have
>to do and you will play with more urgency and use more downs
>shouldn't even be part of the argument. You should playing
>like that anyway whether you go first or second.

yeah, you're just talking about playing football. tell me what the advantage is for going first.

>There's no clear advantage if you can the other team can get a
>stop and you can still lose. If the first team scores a TD
>how is it an advantage to have to match that?

because you know you need a TD to tie and a two-pointer to win. what is the advantage of going first?

>The first team gets to have their lead and focus only on
>keeping the other team out of the endzone. I like those odds
>just as much.

well if you believe in your defense, put them out on the field first -- which is the preferred choice when you win the opening game coin flip -- and stop the other team. then just drive for the winning field goal.

even if it is a small advantage, it's an advantage.
2804866, All of this but especially this right here
Posted by calij81, Mon Feb-12-24 03:39 PM
>even if it is a small advantage, it's an advantage.

Coaches are always trying to give their team the advantage, no matter how small that advantage might be, it is still an advantage and one you want when you’re in the Super Bowl.
2804867, I still think people are overthinking this.....
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 03:39 PM
We'll just have to wait for some galaxy brain coach to do it and see what happens.

Going for two after getting the second score is even more risk/reward than not taking the ball first. WTF are we even talking about at that point. LOL.
2804869, why is this worse?
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 03:41 PM
>Going for two after getting the second score is even more
>risk/reward than not taking the ball first. WTF are we even
>talking about at that point. LOL.

had San Fran scored a TD and extra point, then KC scored a matching touchdown, they knew they could win the Superbowl by asking Patrick Mahomes to get two yards.

why would they kick an extra point and give the ball back to San Fran, knowing a field goal beats them and they have no more possessions?
2804875, RE: why is this worse?
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 04:01 PM
>>Going for two after getting the second score is even more
>>risk/reward than not taking the ball first. WTF are we even
>>talking about at that point. LOL.
>
>had San Fran scored a TD and extra point, then KC scored a
>matching touchdown, they knew they could win the Superbowl by
>asking Patrick Mahomes to get two yards.
>
>why would they kick an extra point and give the ball back to
>San Fran, knowing a field goal beats them and they have no
>more possessions?


You could have stopped at Patrick Mahomes. If that's all this is about is having Mahomes then that is an advantage in ANY situation.
2804880, pick anybody
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 04:40 PM
if you knew the next field goal beat you, and you had a chance to win in one play from the two-yard line, you will always take that option

it is *not* a better option to kick a PAT, have to make a defensive stop out of field goal range, THEN have to drive the ball again back into field goal range yourself -- and also make a field goal

so the only possible advantage of getting the third possession doesn't really exist (unless you go for two on the opening drive for some reason, that may be the galaxy brain stuff you're referring to)
2804887, Right. Just about any starting NFL QB you go with there.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 05:29 PM
It aint a Mahomes thing (though having the best sure doesn't hurt).
2804868, i think we've been responding to Shanahan.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 03:40 PM
thus, the conviction, LOL.
2804874, Dear Kyle, run the ball and play defense on the first possession in OT
Posted by calij81, Mon Feb-12-24 04:01 PM
Sincerely, football fans.
2804864, Going for it in regulation when you know you’ll more than likely
Posted by calij81, Mon Feb-12-24 03:30 PM
Get another possession if you fail is way different than going for it in OT.

If KC gets the ball first and they have 4th and 4 at their 31 yard line, KC more than likely punts and plays defense to stop the Niners from trying to get a FG.

Once the Niners scored a FG on their first possession, KC had 4 downs to get a first down or score so it is irrelevant to what the down and distance on 4th down is or where on the field KC is at because they are going for it on 4th down in order to extend the game.

I believe KC did convert a 4th down at midfield on that final OT drive to win.

2804861, There’s absolutely no advantage to going first
Posted by pretentious username, Mon Feb-12-24 03:13 PM
2804872, RE: There’s absolutely no advantage to going first
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 03:48 PM
And there's not as much of an advantage as people think to going second. You have a narrative of what's already happened to fit some self fulfilling prophecy.

If the second team that deferred doesn't score at all it would be.....well they may not have scored if they took the ball first either.

Or maybe don't give up a touchdown if you took the ball first and only got a field goal.

This is all confirmation bias.

I like Shanahan's thought process of going third and it being sudden death at that point.

It's never an advantage to be down in a game AT ALL. I don't care if you have 4 downs or not. You can say that if you have Patrick Mahomes but otherwise you want the ball first and you want to dictate what happens first. You might score and then force a turnover on the second team.

There's too many scenarios to call it that clear of an advantage.
2804876, yes, there is.
Posted by pretentious username, Mon Feb-12-24 04:02 PM
>And there's not as much of an advantage as people think to
>going second. You have a narrative of what's already happened
>to fit some self fulfilling prophecy.

what? where did I state any narrative? I was rooting for the Niners lol. I simply said there is no advantage to going first in this scenario.

>
>If the second team that deferred doesn't score at all it would
>be.....well they may not have scored if they took the ball
>first either.

no one said a deferring team is guaranteed a win, just that there's a few obvious advantages to deferring, even if they're small. Besides know what you need to score to tie or potentially win the game, you can also get an INT/fumble while on defense and score, thereby ending the game. All this combined with the fact that the Niners seemingly didn't know about the rule makes this inexcusable. I have no opinions on Shanahan as a coach, but there's no excuse for that.


>It's never an advantage to be down in a game AT ALL.

Deferring is not simply conceding points. You can also stop them on their drive and then you don't have the pressure of figuring out which way you need to score, so that's another advantage.
2804878, reply 75 for your "going third" thought.
Posted by PROMO, Mon Feb-12-24 04:20 PM
2804879, RE: reply 75 for your "going third" thought.
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 04:29 PM
I'm assuming that's more of the "go for 2" after you score stuff. Again that's right there with going for it on 4th down. You're spending that entire drive just living on a razors edge if you do that.

I think Mahomes has warped peoples sense or reality with this type of shit.
2804881, so the advantage is a HC expects his offense not to score
Posted by will_5198, Mon Feb-12-24 04:47 PM
>I like Shanahan's thought process of going third and it being
>sudden death at that point.

and his defense to hold the opposing team, so on the third possession it's a tie game and the offense can get to work and win sudden death?

I think the only reason you would receive first is if you *didn't* think your defense could stop anybody -- you score a TD and two-pointer, your defense is horrific so the other team gets the matching score and conversion, then you get the ball back to win

the other option that comes to mind is if the wind conditions were horrible and you picked the side that was way more advantageous to a field goal, but I think that would only come into play if the offenses were not very good
2804889, RE: so the advantage is a HC expects his offense not to score
Posted by go mack, Mon Feb-12-24 05:54 PM
Wasn't the Chiefs only TD to that point the one after the muffed punt in prime position? I can see him thinking the defense could hold them to 3 or less but yeah, didn't work out. I've seen college coaches take ball first in OT tho too and always think it's the wrong decision.
2804891, Well this is loud and wrong lol
Posted by Cenario, Mon Feb-12-24 06:36 PM
2804905, I'm just pointing out the groupthink....
Posted by blueeclipse, Tue Feb-13-24 10:53 AM
All of you were DRAGGING Dan Campbell after the NFCCG for going for it on 4th down and not kicking FG's but would be fine with taking the ball second and possibly being down a FG or TD in OT while talking about having to go for it on 4th down that whole drive like it's a gift.

Make it make sense.

And then if you score.....going for 2 instead of kicking an extra point. Can you imagine losing the Super Bowl on a 2 point conversion?

You'd be in here dragging that coach.


All I'm saying is you can't push this narrative like making these plays is no big deal.
2804907, I know, right? It’s almost like this is a different situation entirely!
Posted by pretentious username, Tue Feb-13-24 12:13 PM
>All of you were DRAGGING Dan Campbell after the NFCCG for
>going for it on 4th down and not kicking FG's but would be
>fine with taking the ball second and possibly being down a FG
>or TD in OT while talking about having to go for it on 4th
>down that whole drive like it's a gift.
>
>Make it make sense.
>

Everyone has made it make sense. You’ve just ignored the explanations while coming up with scenarios where the deferring team could lose, when no one said the deferring team was guaranteed a win, just that they have the advantage of knowing what they need before their offensive drive.
2804908, RE: I know, right? It’s almost like this is a different situation entirely!
Posted by blueeclipse, Tue Feb-13-24 12:27 PM
I hear you. I'm just giving scenarios that show that automatically deferring because of the "advantage" isn't a sure thing no matter how small or large you think the advantage may be.

You can make just as good of a case for both receiving the ball as you can for deferring.

When your "advantage" involves 4th down risks and 2 point conversions its not much of an advantage if any. Were basically in 50/50 territory.

I was just getting pissed at how much people are sticking their chest out like Shanahan was an idiot for doing it. Or any coach.

There's an advantage in going first too......you can rest your defense that just may have been on the field.

We could go on and on with this. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying that there's too many variables in both choices to say one is absolutely the better choice.
2804909, His players being unaware of the rule is the bigger issue here though
Posted by pretentious username, Tue Feb-13-24 12:39 PM
If Shanahan presented his logic AND his players said they were all aware of the rule, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt here. There was clearly some confusion on his sideline though, which there’s no real excuse for regardless of the logic he used in choosing to receive.
2804911, RE: His players being unaware of the rule is the bigger issue here though
Posted by blueeclipse, Tue Feb-13-24 12:47 PM
You're absolutely right about that part of it. The Chiefs prepared so much for the new rule that the Chiefs players even understood that the game wouldn't end on their possession at the end of the first OT period.

Knowing every nuance of the rule effects everything.....player decisions, playcalling, ect.

So from that standpoint.....Shanahan dropped the ball. Even if he knew all of this....not going over it with his team in detail was a pretty bad look.

You gotta think every team goes over this EXTENSIVELY this summer if they haven't already.
2804912, SF winning is the only way you can defense that move
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Feb-13-24 12:49 PM
and even then it wouldn’t be the “right call” but you at least can say “we wanted to be aggressive, we believed in our D, blah blah blah

nothing is guaranteed so of course they have a chance to win in any scenario but its a bad call to take the ball first in OT.

2804914, RE: SF winning is the only way you can defense that move
Posted by blueeclipse, Tue Feb-13-24 01:08 PM
So if the 49ers defer and the Chiefs go an hang 7 on them on that first possession and the 49ers can't match it.....it was WITHOUT QUESTION the right decision? The 49ers put their defense back on the field that was just on the field and give up a touchdown....that is smart football?

Naw man.
2804922, If Shanahan took the ball bc his defense was tired, sure
Posted by Cenario, Tue Feb-13-24 03:20 PM
that's understandable if that was specifically his strategy. Unfortunately, he didn't say that. He said he wanted the 3rd possession.

Reid on the other hand, specifically said he went over this with his analytics guy and the advantage to knowing exactly what you have to do to win or tie and knowing you are playing with 4 downs to get 10 yards(if SF scored first) was a huge advantage. From reading most of your posts, i'm still not sure you understand or have acknowledged that lol
2804892, yeah, its always the wrong call to take the ball first
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-12-24 06:42 PM
2804870, Shanahan is terrible at situational football.
Posted by Kira, Mon Feb-12-24 03:47 PM
Chiefs handed them the game but Shanahan got all pasd happy. Nick Bosa played out of position the whole night...

2804884, RE: Shanahan is terrible at situational football.
Posted by blueeclipse, Mon Feb-12-24 05:08 PM
I was shocked how much they put themselves behind the chains in this game.

Overly conservative playcalling/penalties were killing drives for them left and right and other than crossers and sideline throws they weren't really attacking the field as a whole.

You felt like anytime they were in third and long it was a wrap. The Chiefs D is outstanding but to not even attempt to go deep on them was just inexcusable.
2804906, people calling Shanahan the Kendall Roy of the NFL
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Feb-13-24 12:06 PM
ouch lol
2804919, too good
Posted by will_5198, Tue Feb-13-24 02:09 PM
following the legacy of his dad, the obsession with outsmarting people at his own detriment, the same actual look
2804921, seriously, so accurate that I'm mad I didn't think of it
Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Feb-13-24 03:11 PM
>following the legacy of his dad, the obsession with
>outsmarting people at his own detriment, the same actual look

and the getting so close he can taste it, only to be deflated... again. and again
2804925, RE: seriously, so accurate that I'm mad I didn't think of it
Posted by jimaveli, Tue Feb-13-24 04:28 PM
>>following the legacy of his dad, the obsession with
>>outsmarting people at his own detriment, the same actual
>look
>
>and the getting so close he can taste it, only to be
>deflated... again. and again
>

It really is a brilliant call. And as much as I love that damn show, I'm REALLY upset I didn't drop this heat myself too! Haha.

And really, in this case, Shanny is stuck going from Brady to Mahomes as the SNK boss of the NFL.

Brady and Mahomes have won SEVEN of the last 10 SBs. The exceptions:

- A crippled Peyton Manning stayed out of the way of that bonkers Broncos defense just enough to beat Cam's 15-1 Panthers that scored all over everyone that year (then he was hurt, 3 linemen retired and now people have revised history to swear that Cam sucked the whole time).
- Nick Foles played out of his mind and outdueled Brady/The Pats.
- Stafford handled his biz and took down Cincy.

Wild world of football!
2804910, Is Purdy a top 10 QB?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Feb-13-24 12:44 PM
He played well enough IMO in his first SB and had the lead in OT.

Don’t want it to be true but the guy is legit.
2804913, No.
Posted by blueeclipse, Tue Feb-13-24 12:54 PM
1. Mahomes
2. Burrow
3. Allen
4. Lamar
5. Herbert
6. Dak
7. Stafford
8. Goff
9. Hurts
10. Stroud/Love/Purdy/Lawrence/Rodgers/Cousins/Tua
2804915, He was a top 10 QB this season
Posted by calij81, Tue Feb-13-24 01:27 PM
Burrow barely played this season due to injury. Herbert played okay this year and missed the last 7 games of the season.

Played well to start the season but struggled in his last 7 games.

The only QBs in my mind that played better than Purdy this season were Goff, Mahomes, Jackson, and Allen.
2804916, RE: He was a top 10 QB this season
Posted by blueeclipse, Tue Feb-13-24 01:32 PM
I'm not going off of just last season. Basically what I've seen of them the last few years. If were saying just this season then yeah Purdy is top ten easily. But overall.....no.

I put Love and Stroud in front of him just based on talent alone. Those dudes have some live arms. Lawrence is behind him because he's not remotely clutch and Rodgers/Cousins/Tua are just a mixed bag of injury risk and empty calories.
2804920, This was his first full season as a starter but even if you include
Posted by calij81, Tue Feb-13-24 02:21 PM
His games last season, he is still top 10.

He may not have as big and arm as other QBs but he is consistent, protects the ball, and wins.

He has now taken his team to the NFCCG for in 2022 and the SB in 2023.

Most of the guys you just listed haven’t even been to a conference championship game in their career.
2804917, yeah he earned his spot
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Feb-13-24 01:38 PM
damn sure more than Dak that's for sure lol
2804924, RE: Is Purdy a top 10 QB?
Posted by jimaveli, Tue Feb-13-24 04:05 PM
>He played well enough IMO in his first SB and had the lead in
>OT.
>
>Don’t want it to be true but the guy is legit.

He's good. At worst, I worry about his ceiling not being much higher than what he's already doing.

And, the scarier thing: can he Febreze up some stinkier weapons WHEN he 'gets paid' and the roster around him gets worst? Even if its in San Francisco?

IE: we see how some QBs can struggle when the cast around them changes for the worst after they get paid. Dak is an example. But he's unfairly tagged as THE 'he shouldn't have gotten paid cuz it ruined his team' guy.

And hell, even friggin Mahomes had to fight through it with KC transitioning their approach from Madden money plays for 3 hours to having more of a focus on 'situational money plays'! Hehe. You know what I mean! They've won 2 SBs with the same motion play where Pat knew it was a TD when the ball got hiked.
2804937, btw Trent McDuffie is that guy
Posted by will_5198, Wed Feb-14-24 12:03 AM
lined up man-to-man with Deebo and turned him invisible for the entire game
2804938, yezzir. we turn em out at DB U.
Posted by PROMO, Wed Feb-14-24 02:04 AM
2804957, appreciate it
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Wed Feb-14-24 04:13 PM
2804958, he had Deebo in a straightjacket. it was beautiful.
Posted by PROMO, Wed Feb-14-24 04:29 PM
2804969, he and sneed are both beasts
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Thu Feb-15-24 09:52 AM
it's amazing we have 2 all-pro corners
2804963, RE: yezzir. we turn em out at DB U.
Posted by guru0509, Wed Feb-14-24 09:06 PM
>

lol
2804992, that PBU in the end zone was one of the game savers for the Chiefs
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Feb-16-24 09:25 AM
2804951, They assassinated Steve Wilks Booth
Posted by Amritsar, Wed Feb-14-24 03:08 PM
https://x.com/lombardihimself/status/1757858342159216755?s=61

2804952, escape goat
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Feb-14-24 03:18 PM
2804953, Niners are falling apart a little bit. I'm here for the downfall.
Posted by PROMO, Wed Feb-14-24 03:29 PM
This gotta be one of the dumbest post-SB decisions I've seen in awhile.

Shanahan and him must have stopped getting along or something cuz there's no other REASONABLE explanation.
2804954, Cmon!!!!
Posted by blueeclipse, Wed Feb-14-24 03:30 PM
He had those dudes humming. He held them to 19 point in regulation and until that unfortunate special teams gaffe held them to 6 points into the 3rd qtr after losing Greenlaw.

What more do you want from that defense?!?!? Against Mahomes! How about you convert one of those 3rd downs you had inside the redzone at the end of the game.

Is he going to fire the OL coach too cause leaving Chris Jones unblocked is what really lost them the game.
2804955, Whaaaaat? damn smh.
Posted by Cenario, Wed Feb-14-24 03:34 PM
2804960, The defense played a phenomenal game
Posted by The Real, Wed Feb-14-24 05:12 PM
It wasn't Wilks fault Kyle didn't know the overtime rules.


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2804964, Not sure how i fell about it…. Knew it was coming
Posted by josephmurf2384, Wed Feb-14-24 10:38 PM
While the D played great at times…. It was susceptible to certain things and the pass rush was never consistent. We’ll see who we get. I have a feeling it is gonna be a D-Line or Linebackers positional guy from somewhere.
2804967, chances they improve as a whole next year is slim to none
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-15-24 09:30 AM
I hope they get shredded next year.

I love seeing teams move on from Wilks and fail afterwards. Carolina paid the price last year. Hopefully SF D falls off too.

2804972, don't quote me but i believe the defense, by most measurments...
Posted by PROMO, Thu Feb-15-24 10:51 AM
improved from Demeco Ryans...and he got a HC gig LOL.

Wilks is just clearly the fall guy for the Niners failure in the SB. there's no other legitimate explanation.

but hey, like i said, fuck the Niners. i will enjoy the fall off.
2804976, Niners defense did regress on 3rd down opponent conversion %
Posted by calij81, Thu Feb-15-24 02:05 PM
2022 - they were ranked 13th in the league, giving up 38.7% of opponents 3rd down attempts.

2023 - they were ranked 27th in the league, giving up 42.47% of opponents 3rd down attempts.

2804977, word. yeah looking up some basic stats, either i'm wrong...
Posted by PROMO, Thu Feb-15-24 02:16 PM
or who i heard it from was wrong.

STILL, he looks like a fall guy to me.

wonder who their replacement candidates are. the available names? i don't see an uptick from Wilks but time will tell.
2804966, Wilks is part of the lawsuit with Flores if I’m not mistaken
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-15-24 09:15 AM
I was actually shocked he got hired last year but getting fired for having a top 3 defense that couldn’t close after the head coach made the dumbest fucking decision ever in OT???

Yeah, not surprised at all he was the fall guy.

Fucking NFL where white coaches fail up and Black coaches have to be perfect or get fired.

2804989, I liked in OT when Kyle didn’t like Wilks formation so he called a timeout
Posted by Tiger Woods, Fri Feb-16-24 08:23 AM
Niners converted a first down anyway after the timeout

Dickhead
2804975, the Lions are better than both of these teams
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Feb-15-24 01:46 PM
2804988, Kyle Shanahan is an amateur
Posted by guru0509, Fri Feb-16-24 05:07 AM
Even the coach of mid tier California college team wouldn’t have made the decisions he made , or failed to prepare his team / come up w strategy for the “new” overtime rules (that are over 2 years old now)

“We wanted the ball 3rd” might be the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard