The other thread is 500 deep.

>The other thread is 500 deep.

That’s all, and it isn’t against the law.

LMAO.

/

You really earned a lot of respect

You're the "RJCC secretly obsesses over the Amber Heard/Depp trial" for sexual assaulters.

https://twitter.com/kellymakena/status/1550921361744445441

oops.

..get some coffee, dude. LOL



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

..apparently the Shield didn't learn from its previous mistakes.

They were on the wrong side of history regarding free agency. They were on the wrong side of history regarding CTE. Now they're on the wrong side of history when it comes to public relations/sexual assault allegations involving the work place (or extensions of such).

It was one thing to throw Gruden's dumbass under the bus to save face, only to clam up and shut down the minute people starting digging further. In that instance, they control majority of the variables. In this case, they've egregiously reneged on an agreement to allow an independent party to decide the course of action. Their decision to appeal a ruling given by a reputable judge (again, appointed by Goodell) shows their true intentions were misguided and biased the entire time.

*Please note: This is not in defense of Watson or his actions in ANY WAY/SHAPE/FORM. I don't condone sexual assault of any nature and fully believe that anyone engaging in such actions should be held accountable through due process.

This is all the leverage the NFLPA needed to finally sue The Shield for unfair policy/procedures that clearly carry different consequences for players vs owners (esp since each party is considered a PARTNER, not an employee).

What say you?




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

And I don’t mean thank you as in I feel you have the same opinion
as I do. I mean thank you for observing the truth and the existence
of the NFL, and how they are handling this case.

Either they don’t appeal the decision and they look weak on sexual assault allegations and the like, or they appeal the decision and piss off the NFLPA right after this system that both sides agreed to was implemented.

Definitely don’t feel bad for Goodell and company one bit. This is a mess that was years in the making. They’ve been trying to dig themselves out of a hole ever since they fucked up the Ray Rice incident.

Fuck Goodell and Fuck Watson. Ideal scenario is a hefty fine and suspension for Watson and then Goodell gets ousted somehow. I’d say that’s unlikely, but we’ll see.

Edit: and I know you’re talking about the case cause you don’t twist yourself into knots talking about accidental ejaculation.

The question was, based on the judge’s report, was the contact that Watson’s
phallus made with the massage therapist’s arm accidental?

She said she didn’t perceive it as accidental, because she felt that Watson
requesting the use of short towels meant that he was looking for something
sexual to occur.

So please get the record straight.

Need more leaks.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34375432/roger-goodell-says-evidence-calls-least-full-year-suspension-cleveland-browns-qb-deshaun-watson

..the more Goodell talks, the worse this gets.

Fuck The Shield.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Roethlisberger raped two women, allegedly, and served a six game suspension. Six games appealed to four games.

The Gloria Steinem's of the world did not campaign en masse to push that suspension to indefinite.

The Gloria Allred's of the world were not as active as they could've been to address those heinous actions.

Deshaun's suspension should be 8 games at best based solely on the precedent of 6 appealed to 4 in Ben's case.

Since the Texans played a role in these incidents hold them accountable as well with fines and loss of multiple first round picks. Force every team that pursued Deshaun to face punishment as well to send a message. It's unfair to suspend Deshaun indefinitely and fine him more than the guy that allegedly raped two women.

WTF kind of logic is this? Infidelity? That's what you're calling 24+ sexual assault allegations and possibly upwards of 60 in total?

I'm all for making sure dudes don't get railroaded and held to the same standard but it's amazing the lengths some people go to make this point.

How about picking a reasonably less egregious situation to make this point.

>WTF kind of logic is this? Infidelity? That's what you're
>calling 24+ sexual assault allegations and possibly upwards of
>60 in total?

Again nobody’s defending Deshaun at this point but at least 2 grand juries decided not to bring criminals charges against him just 24 civil cases off 60 massages probably meaning more than half were down with it the reason he kept trying it because if you have enough money you can get away with almost anything like Robert Kraft, nobody even talks about his shit anymore.

>I'm all for making sure dudes don't get railroaded and held to
>the same standard but it's amazing the lengths some people go
>to make this point.
>
>How about picking a reasonably less egregious situation to
>make this point.

Like I said before suspending a guy for an entire season that hasn’t be charged with anything is a strong precedent to set.

Stop comparing this to Kraft!!!! That dude got busted at a MASSAGE PARLOR that was known for being a jack shack. Kraft wasn't hitting up randoms off of IG!!!

Niggas keep saying well what about so and so......go find another dude out here.....white, black, green or whatever that has this type of fuck shit going on and then you can compare it all you want.

people with money get away with shit for a log time before they have to face the consequences. From Robert Kelly to Jeffrey Epstein.

Epstein died on a rope. So yeah. He became a liability to the people in power so they killed him. But I do see your larger point. That being said......none of this should surprise you then.

>Epstein died on a rope. So yeah. He became a liability to
>the people in power so they killed him. But I do see your
>larger point. That being said......none of this should
>surprise you then.

Do you know how long Epstein was doing that shit before he went to jail?

I do. And he died on a rope. What's your point? He's not still doing it.

>I do. And he died on a rope. What's your point? He's not
>still doing it.

The point is a regular person gets locked up for he was doing 1 time. He was doing that shit for years in plain view because he had money.

Being white and WEALTHY is a free pass. Well holy shit what a revelation. It's a free pass until you fuck it up for other white and wealthy people. No one is saying this is right but trying to make an obvious point to make a not so obvious one doesn't really make sense.

>Being white and WEALTHY is a free pass. Well holy shit what
>a revelation. It's a free pass until you fuck it up for other
>white and wealthy people. No one is saying this is right but
>trying to make an obvious point to make a not so obvious one
>doesn't really make sense.

Deshaun and R Kelly are black people that got away with shit because they had money. And yes R Kelly is in jail now but it took over 20 years with him committing crimes and recording them on video.

“probably meaning more than half were down with it”

Sure sounds like you’re defending him.

There’s really no reason to make ASSumptions any more
25 women pressed charges
He settled 24 civil suits and took the 5th under oath
There’s still 1 plaintiff proceeding
It’s not even smoke at this point
and everyone knows good and well a criminal prosecution is not the bar for nfl suspensions
They can play words with friends and call it conduct detrimental to the league, etc…

The soap boxes in these posts are getting stacked really f’n high.

This is a quote from the ruling

“the NFL carried its burden to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr. Watson engaged in sexual assault (as defined by the NFL) against the four therapists identified in the Report."

Start here going forward
Mia’s owner is suspended 6 games for tampering
You see how those aren’t equal…right…?

>“probably meaning more than half were down with it”
>
>Sure sounds like you’re defending him.

not all that was pure speculation but just like drugs I'm sure he had some of these experiences turn out well that's why he kept trying it. If the first one had pressed charges he probably would've stopped or switched to actual call girls to satisfy his fetishes or went to sketchy "rub and tugs" like Robert Kraft.

>There’s really no reason to make ASSumptions any more
>25 women pressed charges
>He settled 24 civil suits and took the 5th under oath
>There’s still 1 plaintiff proceeding
>It’s not even smoke at this point
>and everyone knows good and well a criminal prosecution is not
>the bar for nfl suspensions
>They can play words with friends and call it conduct
>detrimental to the league, etc…
>
>The soap boxes in these posts are getting stacked really f’n
>high.
>
>This is a quote from the ruling
>
>“the NFL carried its burden to prove, by a preponderance of
>the evidence, that Mr. Watson engaged in sexual assault (as
>defined by the NFL) against the four therapists identified in
>the Report."
>
>Start here going forward
>Mia’s owner is suspended 6 games for tampering
>You see how those aren’t equal…right…?

I'm not against any of that. I'm just thinking current players better walk the line if an automatic 1 year suspension becomes the standard for any violation.

You're still doing it
Dude is putting up Cosby/Weinstein numbers
and you're acting like a player getting a jaywalking ticket could face the same penalty

You wrote the first post right?
This is how they're coming for Deshaun Watson
In hindsight, sounds really dismissive and alludes to an ulterior motive... other than he's committing sexual assault

Preponderance of evidence.

I don't understand what your argument is
Do better.

>You're still doing it
>Dude is putting up Cosby/Weinstein numbers
>and you're acting like a player getting a jaywalking ticket
>could face the same penalty
>
>You wrote the first post right?
>This is how they're coming for Deshaun Watson
>In hindsight, sounds really dismissive and alludes to an
>ulterior motive... other than he's committing sexual assault
>
>Preponderance of evidence.
>
>I don't understand what your argument is
>Do better.

A lot has transpired since that original post made a year and a half ago and has been commented on in that post but you would have to actually READ to understand that.

at a place that takes payment for handies.

the situation is not the same at all.

Goddell and the NFL are waaaaaay outta line here, and punishing Watson further is a huge problem (shit, to be real, punishing him at all is a problem, but that's a whole nother discussion).

Where is the union head? Smith should be all in the media challenging EVERYTHING goddell says

by a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr. Watson engaged in sexual assault (as defined by the NFL) against the four therapists identified in the Report.

For the people still stuck with n criminality, we’re not in a court of law.
The judge ruled Deshaun sexually assaulted the 4 victims interviewed
I’m not sure what folks are stuck on
He’s guilty according to the NFL

MIA’s owner getting the same suspension for tampering is obviously not equal justice
A couple of folks in here have lost there mind.

by a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr. Watson engaged in sexual assault (as defined by the NFL) against the four therapists identified in the Report.

For the people still stuck with n criminality, we’re not in a court of law.
The judge ruled Deshaun sexually assaulted the 4 victims interviewed
I’m not sure what folks are stuck on
He’s guilty according to the NFL

MIA’s owner getting the same suspension for tampering is obviously not equal justice
A couple of folks in here have lost there mind.

ban and nothing more because his sexual misconduct was
non-violent in nature. You can’t acknowledge one aspect of
judgement and then disregard the other, which is what the NFL
is doing, and it is what you are doing as well

The NFL hired an independent disciplinary officer to investigate and
provide a decision on the case without bias or prejudice. She gave a judgement
that was based on fairness, and she implemented a disciplinary standard in regards
to the case, because the NFL lacks one.

Her words: “ 46 I am bound “by standards of fairness and consistency of treatment among players similarly situated.”47 The NFL argues that consistency is not possible, because there are no similarly-situated players. By ignoring past decisions because none involve “similar” conduct, however, the NFL is not just equating violent conduct with non-violent conduct, but has elevated the importance of the latter without any substantial EVIDENCE to support its position.”

She also acknowledged the fact that Watson missed the entire 2021 season, so that was
a form of time served.

You can’t acknowledge one part of the judgement and disregard the other. That would be
selectivity, unfairness and pure bias.

Preponderance of evidence.
They only interviewed 4 victims
Forced oral sex sounds violent IMO
Maybe they should include all of the victims before using language like that

But specific to your behavior on this topic
...does it really matter...?

You're like a MAGA bro on this one
You just keep moving the goalposts
6 games, 4 victims
25 victims should be more than 6 games
Dude has proven to be a sexual predator, violent or not.

I'm ASSuming this is a reference to all of the previous domestic violence cases
Which, to my knowledge, involved a significant other
They weren't serial offenders TMK

IMO, there aren't similar situations
I agree with that.

ain't no such thing as non-violent sexual assault.

also, the judge erred in treating him as a first time offender, when clearly he's offended for sure 4 times, likely 25 times, and maybe 60 times.

he should have got 6 games PER victim, at best.

you can talk about the CBA and precedent and all of that.

i don't wanna hear it.

<ain't no such thing as non-violent sexual assault.

Good lord. You have no idea what you’re talking about

Those allegations and accusations was made as ONE CASE. He doesn’t
not have separate or several cases with the NFL, so this is his fist offense
in the nfl. He had no other cases or offenses prior to this one.

But yeah you know more than a retired federal judge…..because you
years of law and legal experiences under your belt.

SMH

.

if you think a long suspension for a possibly 60x sexual offender is lynch mob logic then i'd LOVE to hear what you think about Mr. Watson.

sounds like you wanna shoot him some bail for being a sexual predator.

You cant make up rules on the fly for individuals, because labor law and precedent matters.

There are precedent setting legal decisions
IMO, that is part of the rationale of having an independent process
To set precedent

The judge fumbled IMO
MIA owner got the same suspension...for tampering...
Obviously those are not equal
and, IMO, part of the necessity of having this independent procedure...is to set precedent when required.

Is there an employer in this country that wouldn't have fired their employee by now, in the real world...?

Some of the replies in these threads make it sound like Deshaun is the victim
That he is not.

You don't like it, and the NFL don't like it, so now you're trying to justify going against the independent procedure.

And we gotta stop with the racist and nonsense comparison of professional athlete's labor market to our Dunder-Mifflin ass jobs in a cubicle.
Sports leagues are not remotely like our labor market at all, from either side.
This is the "real world" for the pro athlete.

Weird phrasing
and it feels like you're jumping back and forth
You referenced legal precedent and labor laws
Are you an expert on the NFL CBA?
What are you referring to if not your real life experience? (That's racist?)

You agree this is unprecedented
How would precedent be set in this example?

Isn't Goddell appealing part of the procedure?

You think Ross and Watson should receive the same suspension?

The NFL is a non-profit consortium of for profit entities owned by billionaires.
The Players are independent contractors who have all kinds of special considerations to take into account>

I don't need to be a CBA specialist to have the common sense to know that their job market is NOTHING like ours.

You're dismissing pro athletes labor negotiations (cuz this is ultimately a labor law negotiation) as not being "the real world".

It absolutely is the real world for them.

WILD how many civilians out here "protecting the Shield".

How would precedent be set in this example?

Isn't Goddell appealing part of the procedure?

You think Ross and Watson should receive the same suspension?

.

not sure where you got that from.

I think there is a divide because people want to include the 25 or 30 women in a ruling that sounds like it was focused on the evidence of 4 women.

You just want to disregard everything the Judge rules on accept for what you
agree with.

The judge gave him a 6 game ban - fact.

The sexual conduct that she said he was guilty of was a non-violent
in nature.

She gave a judgement without selectivity, bias or prejudice and she
did it on a foundation of fairness and equity.

Like I said you want to acknowledge one aspect of the judgement and
disregard the other.

Also, her opinion or judgement of him being a sexual predator or him
displaying sexual misconduct is not based on physical evidence. It’s based
on him not going with the therapists that were given to him
by the team, and seeking out therapists from social media. That’s not
proof or evidence beyond a reasonable doubt…..but that’s another
argument.

Also, also, sexual misconduct is not defined in the collective bargaining agreement,
and the punishment or punishment standard that the NFL is seeking is not in the CBA,
so trying to implement a punishment without notice or contractual stipulation would
not be a ground of fairness and would in fact go against the CBA…..

And the judge clearly stated that in her memo.

Lik I said, those goalposts keep moving
Accepting his guilt is progress...I guess

>Accepting his guilt is progress...I guess
>

A retired federal judge gave a proper ruling, and you want to acknowledge
part of it because the other part doesn’t suit your FEELINGS.

You want a judgement that coincides with how you
see it.

Sorry. It doesn’t work like that. That’s why there are unions and the
court of law, as well as arbitrators and adjudicators.

That’s who you’re arguing with
I agree with him that 6 games is a light penalty
and this case is unprecedented
If there was no legal grounds for a tougher penalty…I’m sure Roger would know and this wouldn’t be proceeding
Carry on.

then implement a new disciplinary standard or processes in the CBA…and do it with
notice, like the judge stated

anything else?

I love you, my brother. I want you know that.

Is that not what's happening?
Judge used very severe language in her ruling
But there is no precedent for a sexual predator/serial offender
Wouldn't this be the process for establishing a standard for an unprecedented case?

It doesn’t matter if it’s in court or out of court, if you want to set a new standard
it has to be prior to the process at hand or hearing at hand.

Example: If a man is being tried in court for murder, and the law on sentencing
is 30-50 years, they can’t sentence him more than that standard or precedent.
They can’t set a new precedent while a case is in process. Now that’s not the
actual sentencing stipulation for murder, I was just using that as an example.

Another example.

If a company has a stipulation in its code of ethics, that a person will be suspended 1
week for using profanity in the office, and a worker uses profanity, they just can’t come
up with a new precedent without notice and terminate the worker. They have to follow
the precedent in place until notice is given( update the code of ethics).

This is why companies hand out TOS or COE whenever something is changed
or removed, so that workers are aware of the rules and regulations in the workplace.

But I'll play your little logic game
1 murder = 30-50 years
You can see how 25 murders should be more... right?

and if that law is in place.

This Deshaun case isn’t your typical sexual assault case. There
are a lot of mitigating factors and aggravating factors, but
the mitigating factors outweigh the aggravating factors in
my opinion.

Right, it's an unprecedented case
IMO, the judge contradicts the necessity for an independent ruling
If the punishment was already negotiated in the CBA, you wouldn't need the independent judge to begin with
We agree he's guilty.
We agree this a special/unprecedented case.
That's the reason Goddell is appealing
Kind of confused on what your argument is TBH

IMO the judge deferring precedent is a contradiction of the role.

but kaepernick was radioactive.

i remember the giants owner talking about the backlash we would receive from his fanbase if he signed kap.

no such concerns from the browns owner with watson.

If Kap was Josh Allen level, shittt. NFL would have monetized that whole
movement like the NBA did *wink*.

I love Kap, but he was mad poo poo as the Dr. would put it.

You can say Kap might not be a starter for every team but to act like a QB that nearly won the SuperBowl isnt good enough to atleast be on a roster in a league full of garbage back-up QBs is absolutely insane.

>but kaepernick was radioactive.
>
>i remember the giants owner talking about the backlash we
>would receive from his fanbase if he signed kap.
>
>no such concerns from the browns owner with watson.

KAP's deal was framed, presented, and viewed as a racial thing. And we should know by now that a bunch of wight people care more about race than approximately ANYTHING else. And you know they care more about that than some massage women getting whatever skeevy treatment Watson gave out.

Kapernick (and Eric Reid) were undiluted 'CISM

because dogg. I'd rather have Kap than any of this Jimmy G talk.

the Watson situation is 'CISM you can paper over.

the irony of it all was all that "END RACISM" and "STOP HATE" bullshit they started in the COVID year. some fans bitched about that. rest of us LOL-ed at the pandering joke it still is.

>Kapernick (and Eric Reid) were undiluted 'CISM
>
>because dogg. I'd rather have Kap than any of this Jimmy G
>talk.
and Kaep played better in his Super Bowl than Jimmy did in his.

>the Watson situation is 'CISM you can paper over.
>
>the irony of it all was all that "END RACISM" and "STOP HATE"
>bullshit they started in the COVID year. some fans bitched
>about that. rest of us LOL-ed at the pandering joke it still
>is.

there's no news updates or anything

just everyone arguing about some asshole pervert

this should just get deleted

CLE doing the joint practice, game on Sunday vs PHL

I absolutely expect fans to show up wearing nothing but a towel and lathered in baby oil

.

.

.

but that's happening anyway. glad this shit is over.

JACOBY SZN!!!

NFL bout to cake big time off this decision

.

I wonder if they'll add games in the event the remaining civil suit proceeds and he's found guilty in a court of law

?

>I wonder if they'll add games in the event the remaining
>civil suit proceeds and he's found guilty in a court of law

he won't be found "guilty" in a court of law. criminal charges were not pursued by 2 different prosecutors. they took it to 2 different grand juries (not necessary IMO due to the nature of the allegations, but a step the prosecutors chose to take). they declined to indict.

with a civil suit, you're basically found "liable" for the claim. will you owe the plaintiff money or not. and if you settle, that just "ends" the proceeding. not a statement of guilt or innocence (as we are often reminded in criminal proceedings by a pro-police, pro-prosecution media).

IF he does not settle that claim and he is NOT found liable? then that's that.

Civil court still being a court of law
The question remains
If that suit proceeds and he's found LIABLE, will there be an additional suspension
SMH at the semantics in these posts
Just to clarify further
This can't be the end of it, if there's more proceedings, accusations, etc...
This moved real quick
I imagine all of the victims did not come forward
11 games couldn't be all encompassing for his sexual assaults
That would be giving him blanket immunity for future sexual assault, charges/cases
... right...?

now you're reaching into a void that simply doesn't exist.

there won't be any more accusations now that Buzbee has hit his requisite lick, the Browns/Deshaun have been punished, and the TEXANS (who enabled all this shit) have quietly settled.

the distinction between guilty/innocent and liable/not liable is important.

and the confusion of the two has lead to a whole lot of propaganda, "tough-on-crime" bills, and for prosecutors who act in bad faith to escape the frying pan.

on the matter of crimes like these, I will be a "pedant". before you have a victim, you need to have proof of the victimhood. whatever the situation, the courts/criminal justice system either found nothing, or decided it wasn't important to take that step.

cancel me if you want, but I ain't budging for the Noose Crew.

between a civil case and a criminal case, its usually the same people that think Ben Crump is not a good attorney

If he was criminally prosecuted we wouldn't be having this conversation
He'd be doing 6-11 years in jail
So miss me with the deflection

Because 24/25 of the civil suits were settled
It can be presented as accusations
He has been accused = 11 game suspension

My question is...
If he is found LIABLE in the remaining civil case
and/or more accusations are made

Will there be an additional suspension?

a difference. If new information comes out during that trial, the nfl could increase the punishment (but i doubt that happens)

Without considering we may not have heard the last of it...
Really interested with the civil case continuing
As per PROMO's reply towards the end of this thread
It doesn't appear like the holdout is going to settle and really wants her day in court and Watson to face a bigger penalty

>If he was criminally prosecuted we wouldn't be having this
>conversation
>He'd be doing 6-11 years in jail

6-11 years for exposing himself to a massage therapist? I doubt it

with a minimum 2 years sentence recommendation
Multiplied by 25...

... but you're still deflecting...

>with a minimum 2 years sentence recommendation
>Multiplied by 25...
>
>... but you're still deflecting...

The criminal part is the part I don't get
He's not a predator... because he throws a football real gud...is the part I don't get.

>The criminal part is the part I don't get
>He's not a predator... because he throws a football real
>gud...is the part I don't get.

Watson again apologized in a statement posted online Thursday, saying he takes "accountability for the decisions" he's made.

However, when talking to reporters shortly after, the quarterback insisted he's innocent.

"I've always been able to stand on my innocence and always said I never assaulted or disrespected anyone, but at the same point, I have to continue to push forward with my life and career," Watson said, according to NFL Network's Mike Garafolo.

When asked why he's apologizing if he's innocent, Watson responded: "For everybody that was affected by this situation. There were a lot of people that were triggered."

or didn't agree to to help settle the civil cases and we'll likely never know

What did I tell you guys?

No way was he going to miss a full season and pay over 10 million in fines.
The 5 million is close to the one million he was originally willing to forfeit.

He has always been an ambulance chaser. He is the personification of
Better Call Saul, and this was a goldmine for him.

Law enforcement and the court of law found zero proof or evidence that supported
any of the victims claim, so Buzzbee vehemently pushed the lawsuits, because in
civil court a person is rarely tried for perjury. At one point Buzzbee put up a 1-800
number stating if you have ever given Deshaun a massage, to call that number because
you might be entitled to some money. He represented ALL the accusers in the case.

So this was a huge grift for BuzBee…He wasn’t in this for justice.

Sue Robinson’s observation of him being guilty is simply her observation
as an independent arbiter….nothing more.

He still stands as an innocent man ACCORDINGLY TO THE COURT OF LAW.

Anyway, it’s over, and he is playing this year.

Deal with it.

Do you think that there's a chance that Watson assaulted ANY of these women. Even one. Keep in mind we're talking about 60+ women.

type of doubt.

>Do you think that there's a chance that Watson assaulted ANY
>of these women. Even one. Keep in mind we're talking about
>60+ women.

the corporate media number is 24 (based on civil suits lodged with Buzbee)

the amount of cases reviewed for potential criminal/misdemeanor charges is 5 or less.

still greater than 1, so the chance of 1 being true is nonzero.

that "60+" number came out of a report that used that number of masseuses he potentially visited. 60+ women did not accuse Deshaun Watson.

this is why I have be pedantic about this shit. media knows how to work the Noose Crew for suckers.

>>Do you think that there's a chance that Watson assaulted
>ANY
>>of these women. Even one. Keep in mind we're talking about
>>60+ women.
>
>the corporate media number is 24 (based on civil suits lodged
>with Buzbee)
>
>the amount of cases reviewed for potential
>criminal/misdemeanor charges is 5 or less.
>
>still greater than 1, so the chance of 1 being true is
>nonzero.
>
>that "60+" number came out of a report that used that number
>of masseuses he potentially visited. 60+ women did not accuse
>Deshaun Watson.
>
>this is why I have be pedantic about this shit. media knows
>how to work the Noose Crew for suckers.

and let's be real, the reason Watson tried this so many times is that he probably found some "service providers" that were down with it

>>>Do you think that there's a chance that Watson assaulted
>>ANY
>>>of these women. Even one. Keep in mind we're talking
>about
>>>60+ women.
>>
>>the corporate media number is 24 (based on civil suits
>lodged
>>with Buzbee)
>>
>>the amount of cases reviewed for potential
>>criminal/misdemeanor charges is 5 or less.
>>
>>still greater than 1, so the chance of 1 being true is
>>nonzero.
>>
>>that "60+" number came out of a report that used that number
>>of masseuses he potentially visited. 60+ women did not
>accuse
>>Deshaun Watson.
>>
>>this is why I have be pedantic about this shit. media knows
>>how to work the Noose Crew for suckers.
>
>and let's be real, the reason Watson tried this so many times
>is that he probably found some "service providers" that were
>down with it
>

I think the role of the Texans in this whole thing sort of hints even FURTHER in that direction. Deshaun didn't go out on some Cosby shit. I think there was some mutual understanding that this was all some sort of backdoor, off the books sex work operation b/c why would a team even put those "services on the table" and set up NDAs for all of that if it were just for massage therapy? However, it's my position that as a pro athlete, given the fact that you could be fucked in the goat ass in public exactly like this? you don't even risk that shit.

so he's gotta hold that L.


problem is, people thinking that he's not holding a L at all, like these accusations ain't going to follow him forever, regardless of what the facts actually are.

money don't mean shit when your name is in the dirt.

that's the game the NFL played and has negotiated to as much as their liking through as much avenues as possible.

this ain't Ray Rice and it ain't Kaepernick. it's the NFL: a perfect picture of inconsistent, self-serving bullshit.

PLAY BALL! END RACISM! STOP HATE!

The report NYT piece didn't say he assaulted 60+ women. It was just drawing attention that Watson met with 60+ women over a 17 month period for "massages" and almost half of those women sued him.

It looks like what happened was Watson had a hook up with a massage "madam" who was supplying services for him and that dried up once Covid happened and Watson started hitting up IG to get his fix.

So I'll ask again.

None of you think in his reckless ass IG hookups that he could have done anything that could be considered assault.

We're talking about a nigga showing up to a "massage" with his dick hard and a washcloth over it talking about just massage my ass and my groin.

I know you want to try to talk about this likes it some fucking conspiracy but it's really not. Everyone was trying to get over here. Watson. Buzbee. The Texans. The NFL. The women.

But in this there was bound to be some women who were legitimately assaulted and Watson may honestly believe he didn't do shit wrong.

That may be the most alarming part of this. Hopefully he doesn't do this shit in this way ever again. If he needs to be a freak......be a freak but do it without hitting up random unsuspecting women.

was clear she was full of shit. My guess is the vast majority of the women went along with it(maybe against their better judgment or whatever) but that there were a handful that were legally assaulted.

It's a legit question
But wouldn't using that logic as an explanation for why all of the masseuses didn't press charges/sue
Open him up to criminal charges?

Whatever your opinion is on prostitution/solicitation
AFAIK, that's still illegal in Texas...?
IDK that I've ever seen that strategy as a legal defense
My client did not commit sexual assault against these women because he's use to paying for sex
SMH
Carry on.

for a sex act then forcing someone to do a sex act. Kind of a nobrainer there. The work around though is i paid for massage services, what happened after was just two consenting adults....Sure looks like BS in the court of public opinion but if you are talking a court of law, it flies.

The US just announced a nationwide sex trafficking bust
... I think you can see how that puts him in on additional charges... potentially

i.e. there's another way to spin that defense that doesn't work out well.

and that goes to the intent of my reply
If there's more...for example, Watson was soliciting victims of human/sex trafficking... will there be additional penalty?
or, +30 counts of solicitation?

you're obviously an expert at telling which women are prostitutes I gotta take your word for it

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1560677726129819648?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email