>>Dude is monster in the ring who's phenomenal on the stick.
>>
>>I find it absolutely bizarre that Vince/Nick Khan would fire
>>this guy twice in a year. They might not even have 30 guys
>to
>>put in the Royal Rumble this year, and he gets fired. Shoot,
>>with Brock now on RAW, they could have slotted him in to
>feud
>>with Roman until it's time for Wrestlemania.
>
>I get that WWE isn’t going to make every indie darling the
>top champ, but there are so many cases where you just scratch
>your head and go “how did they mess this up?” Especially
>when it’s clear that WWE is struggling to come up with
>credible challengers.
>
>My biggest example of this is Shinsuke back in 2018. He was SO
>over and they made him look like a huge deal for months. So
>why have him turn on AJ Styles AFTER losing his title shot,
>then have him lose 1,000 rematches in a row? If Shinsuke
>turned heel during the match to win, held the title for a few
>months, and then AJ won it back… who would that hurt? No one
>would think lesser of AJ, and then you have Shinsuke on a
>level where he can easily challenge for a title once every
>year or so and look like a credible threat. If you do that
>with guys like Shinsuke, Joe, or Keith Lee, then you don’t
>have to throw millions at Goldberg every few months when
>you’re in a tough spot. Instead, one of them is in the
>mid-card forever and Vince cut the other two cause they’re
>not as chiseled as Randy Orton.
>
>That’s why I can’t fully complain about Kofi or Big E’s
>title runs. Obviously the way their title reigns ended was
>bullshit, especially Kofi’s, but at least they’ll be one
>of those guys for the rest of their career. They’ll likely
>never win the title again, but you can easily plug them into a
>fun title feud as a credible challenger at any point. WWE has
>like 12-14 ppvs a year, they NEED credible threats like that
>desperately, but they throw away most of their chances to make
>guys like that.

But then they pay Owens to be a hand. Aka a person to take bumps in multi person matches. He’s basically a fat Ziggler to me..they’ve ruined him to the point where I don’t care at all when I see him and I know to ignore anything he’s doing if a big title is involved. I basically only care when they throw him in with Sami cuz I know they can do great stuff even on autopilot.

Samoa Joe being hurt and catching hell getting/staying cleared has to hurt him with WWE brass who don’t really get how grand he can be. Aew basically has to sign him for like 2 years to take the free badass matches he can have before he goes to the booth. Punk, Brian, Omega, some young guy who could use a key win after they make Joe look like Balrog, Page (either one), someone!

I wonder how much longer the New Day crew has with WWE honestly. It seems like they are checking boxes to pay those guys back for selling a bunch of Booty-Os and unicorn horns. Once Xavier isn’t king anymore, what else is there? Maybe they all can be in the ‘not gonna win but throw them in the title match’ category you mentioned? But they’re all starting to get ‘old’ so I dunno. Maybe they slap together a midcard heel crew role for Big E to hoss it up vs some babyfaces for a while?

Since we’re here, is Cesaro hurt? I swear he could be slinging European uppercuts to Okada, Moose, Gresham, or Hangman Page somewhere before coming back to WWE to help train these football players and weightlifting champions at the PC.