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2753486, CFB: Bowl Season and CFP Posted by soulfunk, Wed Dec-22-21 02:14 PM
Get your asterisks ready...
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32924158/college-football-playoff-champion-crowned-via-covid-related-forfeit-says-new-policy
College Football Playoff champion can be crowned via COVID-related forfeit, new policy states
A new College Football Playoff policy written this week in response to the surging omicron virus allows for a team to advance to the national championship -- and ultimately win it -- by its opponents having to forfeit, according to an updated set of COVID-19 policies the CFP released on Wednesday.
The changes, which were made by the CFP's management committee during a video conference on Tuesday, also provide flexibility for the Jan. 10 national championship game in Indianapolis to be pushed back no later than Jan. 14.
If one team is able to play in the title game and the other can't because of COVID-19 - and the game can't be rescheduled - the team that can't play will forfeit and its opponent will be declared the national champion. If both teams can't play on either the original or rescheduled date, the game will be declared a "no contest" and the CFP National Championship will be vacated for this season.
No. 1 Alabama will face No. 4 Cincinnati at 3:30 p.m. ET on Dec. 31 in the College Football Playoff Semifinal at the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic. No. 3 Georgia will face No. 2 Michigan at 7:30 p.m. ET on Dec. 31 in the CFP Semifinal at the Capital One Orange Bowl.
If one of those four semifinalists is unable to participate because of a COVID-19 outbreak, the unavailable team will forfeit the game, and its opponent will advance to the national championship.
"As we prepare for the playoff, it's wise and necessary to put into place additional precautions to protect those who will play and coach the games," CFP executive director Bill Hancock said in a prepared statement. "These policies will better protect our students and staffs while providing clarity in the event worst-case scenarios result."
If both teams are unavailable to play in a semifinal game, it would be declared "no contest" and the winner of the other semifinal game would be declared the CFP national champion.
The CFP's announcement on Wednesday came less than 90 minutes after Alabama announced offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien and offensive line coach Doug Marrone tested positive for COVID-19. According to the statement from coach Nick Saban and athletic trainer Jeff Allen, they have "very mild symptoms" and both are still expected to be able to coach against Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl.
In the rare instance that three semifinal teams are unable to play, the lone remaining healthy team would win its game by forfeit and be declared the CFP national champion.
A school spokesman for Cincinnati told ESPN last week that the school does not make its team vaccination rate public. On Monday, Saban told reporters that more than 90% of his players have been fully vaccinated and received a booster.
Michigan offensive lineman Andrew Stueber told reporters on Tuesday the team planned to get its booster shots together on Wednesday as a team. A school spokesman for Georgia told ESPN that over 90% of the Bulldogs were fully vaccinated as of the SEC championship game.
The CFP also updated its policies for on-site, as athletic directors at each school have to certify that each person with access to the field on game day has tested negative for COVID-19 within 72 hours of the kickoff or has been fully vaccinated. According to the new policies, each school will use the same testing arrangement it used during the regular season, and arrange for testing at the game site.
"We certainly wish we were not in this position," Hancock stated in the news release, "but the only responsible thing is to take whatever actions we can reasonably take to better protect those who play and coach the game."
The CFP also set new COVID-19 policies for the Fiesta and Peach bowls, stating that the CFP, the bowl game and ESPN would try to reschedule the game within one week of the original date. If that doesn't work, the game would be considered a "no contest."
The Rose Bowl, which is contractually bound to the Big Ten and Pac-12, and the Sugar Bowl, which has contracts with the Big 12 and SEC, operate under separate agreements and don't fall under the new CFP guidelines.
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2753491, Michigan football to receive 'full-team booster shot' as COVID-19 cases spike in Florida Posted by vik, Wed Dec-22-21 03:13 PM
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2021/12/21/michigan-football-covid-19-boosters/8990032002/
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2753513, Texas A&M pulling out of Gator Bowl due to Covid Posted by will_5198, Wed Dec-22-21 10:08 PM
"A person with knowledge of the situation told The Athletic's Bruce Feldman that the Aggies were down to 38 available scholarship players and that they had three position groups so depleted they couldn’t field a team for a game."
Rutgers (5-7) is taking their place against Wake Forest
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2753532, there is a timeline where GT hired Jeff Monken (Army) 3 yrs ago Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-23-21 08:34 AM
and that version of me has had a lot more fun the last 3 seasons
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2753534, seems like having more flexibility with dates would be the answer here Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Dec-23-21 09:10 AM
would've been nice to have that for last year's NC game as well
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2753536, what type of time crunch is the CFP on where they can’t postpone the game Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-23-21 09:50 AM
for a few days?
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2753539, To me it feels like the announcement is a warning to the teams... Posted by soulfunk, Thu Dec-23-21 12:02 PM
Because I'm pretty sure they didn't even define what "unable to play" is. So they are basically telling teams that they better have their Covid bubble and protocol in place, because they can't rely on the option of postponing due to an outbreak.
And I get why they did that, because they don't want a team with only a couple cases asking to postpone because those cases are to key players on the team. If they wee to postpone like that you could have the other team end up catching more cases in the interim and they'd be pissed.
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2753542, I’m worried about Cincy.. lol Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-23-21 12:17 PM
I don’t want any shenanigans..
and its not that I think they will win I just want to see it play out on the field.
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2753543, yep, see you 12/31 or not at all Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Dec-23-21 12:51 PM
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2753551, would seem kinda hard for rutgers to get ready for a bowl game Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Dec-23-21 09:15 PM
on 1 weeks notice after having been off since end of november.
both mentally and physically.
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2753587, esp to play a P5 division winner Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Dec-24-21 02:51 PM
they arent going down there to play akron or utep
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2753588, There wasn’t much of a choice… Posted by soulfunk, Fri Dec-24-21 03:06 PM
Since there wasn’t another cancellation with a team left hanging, it was either find a 5-7 team who will be completely overmatched, or have a team do two bowl games which would really be weird.
Rutgers knows they are at a huge disadvantage, but still good experience for the team, and good for recruiting to go to a bowl game.
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2753598, well the choice for rutgers was to say no lol Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Dec-24-21 08:39 PM
I'm sure it's a good thing from the university's perspective...they get a pay day and some tv exposure. But I could see the players being less than happy about having their vacations interrupted.
Meanwhile memphis just flew all the way out to hawaii to play on christmas eve and now have to turn around and fly home w/o even playing.
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2753613, i wouldnt be in any rush to come home from Hawaii tho. Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Dec-25-21 03:09 PM
Jacksonville doesnt quite have the same appeal to me
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2753775, my guess was/is that the players would rather be home for christmas Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Dec-28-21 05:37 PM
from an nc st. player after tonight's game got cancelled...
https://twitter.com/Porter_Rooks/status/1475930357811712001?s=20
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2753791, idk thats not the same to me Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Dec-28-21 08:18 PM
Memphis was spending xmas day in hawaii with their families either way, with the season in their rearview mirrors.
NCSU was assumedly bubbled up on Christmas in preparation for today. that blows.
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2753792, different situations...but i think they both suck Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Dec-28-21 08:21 PM
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2753651, two more bowls cancelled Posted by will_5198, Sun Dec-26-21 07:17 PM
ECU vs. Boston College
Virginia vs. SMU
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2753666, SMU?! You mean the place where Cole Beasley went?! nm Posted by vik, Sun Dec-26-21 10:53 PM
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2753798, can't even make fun of sec teams for getting drilled in these games Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Dec-28-21 09:32 PM
with all the opt outs and whatnot
leach stays throwing up stinkers in bowl games though
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2753799, UCLA with the bitch move Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-28-21 10:13 PM
could’ve gave NCState a heads up a few days ago if they were having covid issues
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2753804, get your full allotment of bowl practices and then bounce Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Dec-29-21 12:58 AM
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2753858, At the half, Vols v Purdue has been really good Posted by dillinjah, Thu Dec-30-21 04:52 PM
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2753862, bullshit call at the end but heupel coaches like he's brain damaged Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Dec-30-21 07:44 PM
and prob deserved to lose
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2753865, didn't like his play-calling at the end of the 4Q and OT Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-30-21 09:19 PM
but I think he realized he would've changed those calls
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2753874, end of first half was shit as well Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Dec-30-21 10:11 PM
clock management was atrocious throughout
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2753866, great example of why bowl games still matter Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-30-21 09:20 PM
both teams running on fumes but lots of guts
credit to Purdue for playing without their two best players
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2753873, Damn, Will! I just chalked it up to an L and skipped it Posted by calminvasion, Thu Dec-30-21 09:57 PM
Bell, Karlaftis, and Wright out? Who the F is Brock Thompson (I kinda know but not really)
Huge win for Brohm. 9 wins is a big deal for us. Cements him for at least a few more seasons. Excited about next year with an easier schedule
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2753863, Refs stole that game from the Vols Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-30-21 08:46 PM
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2753867, meh Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-30-21 09:24 PM
maybe I'm scarred too much but there have been much worse happen to Tennessee, sadly (their last loss in the Music City Bowl actually prompted a rule change).
but it wasn't a great call. whole OL was gassed, Fant (TE) missed his block and basically collapsed after the play, and while Wright had big heart to throw that ball over the line, he's a 5'10, 190 scatback who isn't going to move a pile.
Heupel should have called a run-pass option for Hooker instead of bunching everyone as tight as possible.
Hooker could have iced the game away in the first half but he missed 4 touchdown throws (probably good for him to grow from in 2022) and the defensive depth fell apart late in the game.
doesn't really tarnish the season though. this was about as good as you could have hoped based on the half-dozen starters who transferred out and another year one reset.
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2753875, It was a TD. Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-30-21 10:22 PM
all that other stuff may he true but that wasn’t my focus when I posted.
still something to build on for next year.
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2753882, it is an easy target and bad call Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-30-21 11:08 PM
but he was kind of laying there for a second (I figured he was down). should have let him play to the whistle, so I'm not gonna oppose anyone complaining. sadly, the Ole Miss call when Corral fumbled and they ruled his forward progress was stopped was probably even worse....
I guess I'm more miffed that the Vols wasted two quarters against a team without their All-American WR and NFL defensive end.
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2753899, it was a valid call by the ref Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Dec-31-21 11:55 AM
play is dead when ref determines forward progress has stopped, doesn't matter if the whistle blow was late. really sucks to lose a game like that but it's not the ref's fault.
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2753900, what is the point of whistles then? Posted by will_5198, Fri Dec-31-21 12:03 PM
is everyone on the field supposed to guess when the play is over based on the ref's inner monologue?
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2753903, I agree. it's a bad rule, should be changed. Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Dec-31-21 12:30 PM
but that's not the ref's fault.
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2753909, doesn’t matter if the whistle was late? wtf Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-31-21 02:44 PM
that sounds like some Vegas nonsense.. lol
must be nice to just make shit up, why even have whistles?
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2753989, on a forward progress call? no, it doesn't. Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Dec-31-21 08:38 PM
>that sounds like some Vegas nonsense.. lol > >must be nice to just make shit up, why even have whistles?
make what shit up? that's the rule. not sure what else to tell you.
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2753876, far too frequently i questioned if tempo was working against UT offense Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Dec-30-21 10:30 PM
>whole OL was gassed
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2753881, giving it all on blitz pickup Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Thu Dec-30-21 10:50 PM
giving it all on blitz pickup
https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1476762763674406923
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2753902, This is the day the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Dec-31-21 12:26 PM
Better coaching, better special teams, better QB, No 1 overall draft pick, lead the country in most explosive AND fewest negative plays...99 times out of 100 that would be enough to feel supremely confident.
Today is the 100th
TO HELL WITH GEORGIA
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2753908, one of the worst targeting calls ive ever seen in this wake/rutgers game Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Dec-31-21 01:43 PM
and wazzou with the biggest no show of bowl season thus far
de laura is one of the more wildly inconsistent qb's i can remember
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2753910, I hate the SEC...I hate Michigan Posted by allStah, Fri Dec-31-21 03:18 PM
So Cincinnati it is. Hopefully, they can hit a last second 3 pointer and get some free throws.
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2753912, Over/under for Bama td’s in the first quarter? Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Dec-31-21 03:39 PM
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2753963, MORE TEAMS!!!!!! Posted by Ceej, Fri Dec-31-21 06:31 PM
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2753991, LOL Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri Dec-31-21 08:44 PM
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2753994, Hell yeah.. damn near every team playing tomorrow Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Dec-31-21 08:52 PM
would’ve made for a good 12 team playoff
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2754109, that was even funnier than Ceej's joke. Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sun Jan-02-22 12:22 AM
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2753999, RE: MORE TEAMS!!!!!! Posted by Ceej, Fri Dec-31-21 09:03 PM
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2754033, fuck it bring back the BCS lol Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Dec-31-21 11:04 PM
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2754035, then you'd have bama vs mich in the NC Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Dec-31-21 11:09 PM
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2754036, eh i think the BCS is more likely to have gotten us Bama/Georgia Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Dec-31-21 11:13 PM
on the flip we'd get Michigan and Cincy fans complaining about being left out but i'd take that trade off long before these games tonight were played
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2754045, zero chance they pass up media darling mich for a sec rematch Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 12:30 PM
after having just played no less
didnt happen in 2006 either
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2754050, agreed UGA wouldn't have gotten a rematch because it was a 17 point loss Posted by LegacyNS, Sat Jan-01-22 02:05 PM
LSU/Bama got a rematch because it was like a 9-6 game. As much as I wanted a rematch in 2006, our game was an elimination game in the BCS format. Plus they got it right. Hell the best matchup probably would have been USC vs FL that year.
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2754053, even if it was a 1 point loss they wouldn't have gotten the rematch Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 03:51 PM
you have to give other teams a shot at it and mich certainly earned that
and mich vs sec is a wayyyy better ratings draw than sec vs sec
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2754051, ND should have been in the POs Posted by allStah, Sat Jan-01-22 02:08 PM
Slap them up big! ND might put up 50!
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2754054, lmao.. OKState walked you guys down and made this a game Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Jan-01-22 03:55 PM
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2754057, Pitt got drop kicked back MSU...FOH Posted by allStah, Sat Jan-01-22 04:52 PM
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2754063, we kept it close without Pickett who was our whole offense Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Jan-01-22 05:53 PM
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2754055, you gotta be kiddin me, theyre struggling right now vs Oklahoma State Posted by guru0509, Sat Jan-01-22 03:55 PM
>Slap them up big! ND might put up 50!
a bit of good news for marcus freeman and the golden domers tho..
https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Peyton-Bowen-commits-Notre-Dame-Marcus-Freeman-analysis-179567148/
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2754058, Eddie "allStah" Mush already cookin' in 2022 Posted by Oak27, Sat Jan-01-22 04:54 PM
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2754060, they'd probably destroy bama too Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 05:11 PM
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2754056, Marcus Freeman sucks. Posted by allStah, Sat Jan-01-22 04:50 PM
He has zero head coaching experience, but is given the keys to a top 5-10 program.
I can already tell he is going to be shit.
Close to 3 mins left, 3 TOs....should’ve punted the ball.
How do you go up 28-14 in the first half only to score 7 points in the second half?
Fock that guy.
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2754091, after 1 game? lol Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jan-01-22 10:06 PM
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2754064, Marvin Harrison JR with the TD catch Posted by guru0509, Sat Jan-01-22 06:05 PM
god I feel old.
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2754065, That name does not even sound vaguely familiar Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Sat Jan-01-22 06:08 PM
Never heard it in my life
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2754067, I’m not sure who caught that TD for OSU Posted by calij81, Sat Jan-01-22 06:16 PM
I didn’t catch the name of the kid or the kids fathers name. Must have been some new player that just transferred in via the transfer portal.
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2754122, Who? Posted by The Real, Sun Jan-02-22 10:19 AM
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2754068, Jim Tressel throwing up at this Ohio State defense and special teams Posted by guru0509, Sat Jan-01-22 06:24 PM
this is pathetic
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2754069, man this game is a shitshow lol Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 06:33 PM
njigba is that dude though
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2754073, with Wilson and Olave out, you have to bracket him Posted by will_5198, Sat Jan-01-22 06:38 PM
I am not letting him beat me on fucking off-man and soft zone
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2754070, CIRCUS Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 06:38 PM
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2754071, I'm going to the Nets game, not watching this bullshit. season over. Posted by guru0509, Sat Jan-01-22 06:38 PM
smh
>Get your asterisks ready... > >https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32924158/college-football-playoff-champion-crowned-via-covid-related-forfeit-says-new-policy > >College Football Playoff champion can be crowned via >COVID-related forfeit, new policy states > >A new College Football Playoff policy written this week in >response to the surging omicron virus allows for a team to >advance to the national championship -- and ultimately win it >-- by its opponents having to forfeit, according to an updated >set of COVID-19 policies the CFP released on Wednesday. > >The changes, which were made by the CFP's management committee >during a video conference on Tuesday, also provide flexibility >for the Jan. 10 national championship game in Indianapolis to >be pushed back no later than Jan. 14. > >If one team is able to play in the title game and the other >can't because of COVID-19 - and the game can't be rescheduled >- the team that can't play will forfeit and its opponent will >be declared the national champion. If both teams can't play on >either the original or rescheduled date, the game will be >declared a "no contest" and the CFP National Championship will >be vacated for this season. > >No. 1 Alabama will face No. 4 Cincinnati at 3:30 p.m. ET on >Dec. 31 in the College Football Playoff Semifinal at the >Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic. No. 3 Georgia will face No. 2 >Michigan at 7:30 p.m. ET on Dec. 31 in the CFP Semifinal at >the Capital One Orange Bowl. > >If one of those four semifinalists is unable to participate >because of a COVID-19 outbreak, the unavailable team will >forfeit the game, and its opponent will advance to the >national championship. > >"As we prepare for the playoff, it's wise and necessary to put >into place additional precautions to protect those who will >play and coach the games," CFP executive director Bill Hancock >said in a prepared statement. "These policies will better >protect our students and staffs while providing clarity in the >event worst-case scenarios result." > >If both teams are unavailable to play in a semifinal game, it >would be declared "no contest" and the winner of the other >semifinal game would be declared the CFP national champion. > >The CFP's announcement on Wednesday came less than 90 minutes >after Alabama announced offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien and >offensive line coach Doug Marrone tested positive for >COVID-19. According to the statement from coach Nick Saban and >athletic trainer Jeff Allen, they have "very mild symptoms" >and both are still expected to be able to coach against >Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl. > >In the rare instance that three semifinal teams are unable to >play, the lone remaining healthy team would win its game by >forfeit and be declared the CFP national champion. > >A school spokesman for Cincinnati told ESPN last week that the >school does not make its team vaccination rate public. On >Monday, Saban told reporters that more than 90% of his players >have been fully vaccinated and received a booster. > >Michigan offensive lineman Andrew Stueber told reporters on >Tuesday the team planned to get its booster shots together on >Wednesday as a team. A school spokesman for Georgia told ESPN >that over 90% of the Bulldogs were fully vaccinated as of the >SEC championship game. > >The CFP also updated its policies for on-site, as athletic >directors at each school have to certify that each person with >access to the field on game day has tested negative for >COVID-19 within 72 hours of the kickoff or has been fully >vaccinated. According to the new policies, each school will >use the same testing arrangement it used during the regular >season, and arrange for testing at the game site. > >"We certainly wish we were not in this position," Hancock >stated in the news release, "but the only responsible thing is >to take whatever actions we can reasonably take to better >protect those who play and coach the game." > >The CFP also set new COVID-19 policies for the Fiesta and >Peach bowls, stating that the CFP, the bowl game and ESPN >would try to reschedule the game within one week of the >original date. If that doesn't work, the game would be >considered a "no contest." > >The Rose Bowl, which is contractually bound to the Big Ten and >Pac-12, and the Sugar Bowl, which has contracts with the Big >12 and SEC, operate under separate agreements and don't fall >under the new CFP guidelines.
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2754075, cmon...you couldnt have had any legit expectations for this game Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 06:41 PM
osu missing half their team and a lame duck coaching staff...this is a scrimmage in a really nice venue.
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2754080, I did not expect 5 Tds in 3 minutes, and no D line play whatsoever lol Posted by guru0509, Sat Jan-01-22 06:48 PM
>osu missing half their team and a lame duck coaching >staff...this is a scrimmage in a really nice venue.
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2754092, is Ryan Day leaving? Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jan-01-22 10:09 PM
>a lame duck coaching >staff
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2754094, I believe the DC and some of the defensive staff aren’t coming back Posted by calij81, Sat Jan-01-22 10:15 PM
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2754103, was referring to defensive staff sorry Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 11:18 PM
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2754085, how was the nets game? lol Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 09:16 PM
you missed a pretty epic second half
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2754117, smh nets lost ...lol damn. I have shit luck Posted by guru0509, Sun Jan-02-22 02:13 AM
>you missed a pretty epic second half
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2754072, whoever bet the over is good.. no D in this game Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Jan-01-22 06:38 PM
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2754076, i played utah over 29.5 points and Rising over 28 rush yards Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 06:43 PM
didn't bet nearly enough on it though
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2754074, Ohio State's defense should never be this bad Posted by will_5198, Sat Jan-01-22 06:40 PM
especially against a team that has no explosive advantages
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2754078, i mean they had to switch over a TE to play LB Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 06:45 PM
you just cant take these games seriously anymore
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2754077, really, WTF is Utah doing Posted by will_5198, Sat Jan-01-22 06:44 PM
saved by that fumble but you know you can double a slot receiver when he is the best player on the field
or just playing your regular coverages like some dumbasses
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2754079, every time I watch Utah they put on a show on offense Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Jan-01-22 06:47 PM
but this D is horrible
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2754082, damn Utah qb got his head bounced off the turf Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Jan-01-22 08:37 PM
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2754084, what a great win Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 09:14 PM
some very much needed positive momentum for next season
sucks that we couldnt see olave and wilson along with njigba for a few more games
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2754120, Your depth at WR is disgusting. Julian Fleming was the #1 WR Posted by Mignight Maruder, Sun Jan-02-22 06:50 AM
in the country and top 5 overall rated hs player and he’s just an afterthought on your team. Also disgusting how you keep poaching these PA guys. But then again, I can’t blame them when they’re pretty much guaranteed to play with a much better QB in a much better offensive system.
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2754124, jameson williams was an afterthought too...shit is wild. Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Jan-02-22 10:31 AM
>in the country and top 5 overall rated hs player and he’s >just an afterthought on your team.
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2754133, the Brian Hartline effect, he recruits his ass off Posted by guru0509, Sun Jan-02-22 01:48 PM
>in the country and top 5 overall rated hs player and he’s >just an afterthought on your team. Also disgusting how you >keep poaching these PA guys. But then again, I can’t blame >them when they’re pretty much guaranteed to play with a much >better QB in a much better offensive system.
its gotta be pretty cool having a former NFL WR as your position coach...the dolphins gave him a pretty decent chunk of money too iirc, he wasnt a scrub.
(i wasnt a huge fan of his when he was at TOSU bc he had some very unkind things to say about Terrelle Pryor, but considering how things turned out, his comments were accurate and true)
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2754087, What year is Corral? Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sat Jan-01-22 09:36 PM
No one likes when players sit out for bowl games. But this injury should be Exhibit 1-A for why players have every right to get themselves ready for the draft.
#SugarBowl
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2754104, he's off to the league Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Jan-01-22 11:19 PM
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2754105, Okay. I thought because he played he must a sophomore Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sat Jan-01-22 11:23 PM
There was nothing for him to gain by playing tonight, outside of self-interest.
I don't knock his decision. It's a shame that his wish to play one more game in college came with such consequence.
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2754111, wouldn't it be the opposite of self interest? Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Jan-02-22 12:36 AM
>There was nothing for him to gain by playing tonight, outside >of self-interest.
if the players want to opt out thats fine...if they wanna stay and play with their teammates that should be fine too.
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2754113, Yeah, you're right Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sun Jan-02-22 12:52 AM
At this point, it's easy to criticize Corral's decision because he got hurt. He made a bold choice to play alongside his teammates. And given the stakes, he made a bold decision. You have to respect his heart, even if his choice wasn't the best long-term decision.
My post was fueled somewhat by Herbstreit's comments about modern players being entitled for dropping out of bowl games.
Either way, if the player is making an informed decision that reflects their personal values, then they deserve the right to make that decision.
But pundits and fans' criticism of players who hold out of bowl games is selfish and upholds a standard of amateurism that hasn't existed in at least a generation.
It's FBS. Everyone's entitled. The players have the right to be 'entitled' too.
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2754118, Fuck Herb and Howard for their opinion on that. Do they hold Kelly and Posted by calij81, Sun Jan-02-22 02:45 AM
Cristobal and Riley to those same standards?
No, of course not. Pride is nice but it isn’t going to feed your family when you tear an ACL in the Weed Eater or Mayonnaise Bowl and you go from a 3rd round pick to a UDFA.
Of course they would have that opinion because espn bankrolls the majority of these bowls and stand to lose the most when people stop watching.
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2754237, I wonder how long it'll take CFB to normalize on this Posted by Nodima, Mon Jan-03-22 09:01 AM
Between NIL and the transfer window I hope not long
And maybe this is the lapsed "fan" in me, but when Wan'dale Robinson goes to Kentucky and balls out after two years full of potential at Nebraska, or Adria Martinez decides to cash in his COVID year by going to hang with his GF at Kansas State instead of a 5th year at NU, I see it as only a positive
These schools shouldn't be able to hold these kids hostage because they're two credit years into an engineering degree or whatever the case may be. Let 'em live same as the rest of us
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2754123, desmond is a world class buffoon and herb ain't that great either Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Jan-02-22 10:28 AM
I think in general I'm just tired of the opt out commentary. Every kid has to make their own decision and it's really no one else's business or place to judge.
I will say that I don't really understand the 'meaningless bowl game' stuff because if games with playoff implications are the only games with any meaning then 95% of the games played throughout the season would also be considered meaningless. One could argue that playoff games don't really hold all that much meaning in the grand scheme of life either.
I'd expect that pretty soon we start seeing players opt out midseason once they feel their draft stock is solidified. This isn't going to remain an issue specific to bowl games only.
>At this point, it's easy to criticize Corral's decision >because he got hurt. He made a bold choice to play alongside >his teammates. And given the stakes, he made a bold decision. >You have to respect his heart, even if his choice wasn't the >best long-term decision. > >My post was fueled somewhat by Herbstreit's comments about >modern players being entitled for dropping out of bowl games. > >Either way, if the player is making an informed decision that >reflects their personal values, then they deserve the right to >make that decision. > >But pundits and fans' criticism of players who hold out of >bowl games is selfish and upholds a standard of amateurism >that hasn't existed in at least a generation. > >It's FBS. Everyone's entitled. The players have the right to >be 'entitled' too.
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2754236, maybe he wanted to have a good showing to improve his draft status? Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Jan-03-22 08:26 AM
or be just wanted to finish the season with his team.
I respect either decision. I used to be against it but its a business decision and should be respected.
Pitt fans were mad at Pickett. The back up broke his collarbone on the second series. I doubt Pickett could improve his draft stock with a bowl win so it made perfect sense for him to sit out.
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2754106, I like these Ole Miss uniforms, they remind of the Oilers uniforms Posted by calij81, Sat Jan-01-22 11:25 PM
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2754110, they reminded me of the Oilers unis too Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sun Jan-02-22 12:32 AM
yeah they are nice.
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2754114, Yeah. Overall their uni game is solid Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sun Jan-02-22 12:54 AM
But I always feel a little embarrassed for liking anything associated with a school that has a Confederate soldier as a mascot. #Murica
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2754119, I agree with both your opinions. I think Ole Miss might have the best uniforms Posted by calij81, Sun Jan-02-22 02:47 AM
and helmets of the entire SEC.
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2754266, Caleb Williams in portal….. Posted by Ceej, Mon Jan-03-22 04:21 PM
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2754295, but Caleb, you're only a freshman, there's still time! Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Tue Jan-04-22 01:22 AM
Caleb's time is NOW!
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2754302, Fansville best marketing campaign ever Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Jan-04-22 09:28 AM
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2754307, there's talk about him going to Georgia. Posted by tariqhu, Tue Jan-04-22 11:07 AM
I think JT should tranfer from UGA. he aint getting that job back.
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2754313, idk what the hell he was thinking Posted by HecticHavoc, Tue Jan-04-22 12:03 PM
its hard for me to think like a 5 star QB teenager these days but... why not transfer to Arizona, or Colorado? Oregon St? You could've been the clear cut starter at half the Pac 12 schools, and you go to a Georgia school where you know you'll not be given any preferential treatment.
but at the same time he couldnt beat out a walk on.
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2754317, bc when enough people tell you you're the shit it's easy to believe it Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Jan-04-22 12:11 PM
>its hard for me to think like a 5 star QB teenager these days >but... why not transfer to Arizona, or Colorado? Oregon St? >You could've been the clear cut starter at half the Pac 12 >schools, and you go to a Georgia school where you know you'll >not be given any preferential treatment. > >but at the same time he couldnt beat out a walk on.
so why would he feel that he couldn't go just about anywhere and be the main guy?
he was a heisman frontrunner heading into this season. it was laughable to me but also had me thinking that maybe I was wrong? like how could I be so far off on this kid?
his entire situation never made sense to me. he came in as a 5 star all recruit kid in the same breath as fields and lawrence and from day 1 i just never understood the rating. maybe it's just white sc qb effect?
slovis was also a heisman front runner and is now looking at a new start with pitt.
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2754319, that rating shit is ridiculous, but I guess they have to have Posted by tariqhu, Tue Jan-04-22 12:46 PM
some type of measurement. it's def flawed, like picking the #1 draft.
josh jacobs was a 3 star RB coming from OK. he wasn't even recruited by OU. it was clear when he got to Bama, that he was a star even with all the folks ahead of him.
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2754320, they put way too much stock into the success of their HS teams Posted by HecticHavoc, Tue Jan-04-22 01:04 PM
its why Josh Rosen was 5 star. it honestly reminds me of why (prior to Tua and Mac) Alabama QB's were so fucking awful in the pros, because they had such a high level talent of offense and defense to play with.
I think when you play at these Alabama-like high schools you really dwarf your skillset, and your weaknesses. Then they get highlighted when your teams offense is matched with another teams defensive skillset.
but yeah, i think 3x is right about the ego and being told you can go anywhere.
dude if you are leaving USC because a kid from Scottsdale who played at a below mediocre football program, perhaps you shouldnt travel to the south to finish your career. take your ass to Tucson or something.
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2754322, Tua is not good in the NFL Posted by calij81, Tue Jan-04-22 01:34 PM
He is about to be Rosen’d by Miami.
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2754323, chosen rosen at least had some measurables Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Jan-04-22 01:48 PM
JT is really good at what exactly?
tate martell is probably the poster child for what being part of a powerhouse HS football program can do for your rating.
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2754327, I agree they Chosen Rosen has the measurable’s and was a full time starter Posted by calij81, Tue Jan-04-22 02:53 PM
At ucla that never lost his job to a guy nicknamed The Mailman. Rosen alls improved throughout his college career and had some great games where he carried his team.
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2755782, Tate Martell retired from UNLV to pursue business ventures LMAO Posted by HecticHavoc, Tue Jan-18-22 07:02 PM
i dont think i ever saw this guy play a snap and i guess good for him for making money while being on scholarship but you usually see these high profile guys at least play a little bit before they move on. what a world class imposter
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2755789, Oh, were you too busy to watch 2019 Lending Tree bowl? Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Jan-18-22 08:11 PM
>i dont think i ever saw this guy play a snap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAfQTNcKnS4
he got a few series' at qb in this game and it's worth skimming through to find them cause they're quite funny as i recall. dude was just absolutely dreadful.
hard to believe that urban actually took haskins off the field for tate in goal line situations against mich. but it really happened.
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2754328, nevermind Posted by will_5198, Tue Jan-04-22 03:05 PM
ya'll are talking about JT Daniels, I forgot he was alive
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2754318, I was thinking he was still injured, but not sure anymore. Posted by tariqhu, Tue Jan-04-22 12:41 PM
no idea.
also not sure why Caleb would consider UGA. seems like he's running from competition at OU since they have a guy coming in, but running to it at UGA.
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2754340, Caleb is better than Dillon Gabriel Posted by will_5198, Tue Jan-04-22 06:12 PM
so I don't think it's that. and he's too good to be at Georgia because Kirby doesn't develop quarterbacks for the NFL.
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2754352, maybe it's just because Riley left. Posted by tariqhu, Tue Jan-04-22 10:02 PM
yeah, Kirby handcuffs his qbs.
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2754372, I thought maybe this was just a NIL leverage thing Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Jan-05-22 09:49 AM
but it looks like the whole damn team is leaving
feel kinda bad for OU fans
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2754434, could be NIL too. Posted by tariqhu, Wed Jan-05-22 05:13 PM
it's a whole mess fr.
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2754900, He's goin to USC Posted by Ceej, Mon Jan-10-22 02:44 PM
What a grift.
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2754921, would be funny if i woke up tomorrow morning Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Jan-10-22 05:16 PM
and ryan day was coaching for FSU and CJ stroud was their qb
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2754351, WAY too much time off between the semi finals and the final game Posted by guru0509, Tue Jan-04-22 09:19 PM
wtf I thought the game would be this week? NEXT Monday? cmon
>Get your asterisks ready... > >https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32924158/college-football-playoff-champion-crowned-via-covid-related-forfeit-says-new-policy > >College Football Playoff champion can be crowned via >COVID-related forfeit, new policy states > >A new College Football Playoff policy written this week in >response to the surging omicron virus allows for a team to >advance to the national championship -- and ultimately win it >-- by its opponents having to forfeit, according to an updated >set of COVID-19 policies the CFP released on Wednesday. > >The changes, which were made by the CFP's management committee >during a video conference on Tuesday, also provide flexibility >for the Jan. 10 national championship game in Indianapolis to >be pushed back no later than Jan. 14. > >If one team is able to play in the title game and the other >can't because of COVID-19 - and the game can't be rescheduled >- the team that can't play will forfeit and its opponent will >be declared the national champion. If both teams can't play on >either the original or rescheduled date, the game will be >declared a "no contest" and the CFP National Championship will >be vacated for this season. > >No. 1 Alabama will face No. 4 Cincinnati at 3:30 p.m. ET on >Dec. 31 in the College Football Playoff Semifinal at the >Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic. No. 3 Georgia will face No. 2 >Michigan at 7:30 p.m. ET on Dec. 31 in the CFP Semifinal at >the Capital One Orange Bowl. > >If one of those four semifinalists is unable to participate >because of a COVID-19 outbreak, the unavailable team will >forfeit the game, and its opponent will advance to the >national championship. > >"As we prepare for the playoff, it's wise and necessary to put >into place additional precautions to protect those who will >play and coach the games," CFP executive director Bill Hancock >said in a prepared statement. "These policies will better >protect our students and staffs while providing clarity in the >event worst-case scenarios result." > >If both teams are unavailable to play in a semifinal game, it >would be declared "no contest" and the winner of the other >semifinal game would be declared the CFP national champion. > >The CFP's announcement on Wednesday came less than 90 minutes >after Alabama announced offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien and >offensive line coach Doug Marrone tested positive for >COVID-19. According to the statement from coach Nick Saban and >athletic trainer Jeff Allen, they have "very mild symptoms" >and both are still expected to be able to coach against >Cincinnati in the Cotton Bowl. > >In the rare instance that three semifinal teams are unable to >play, the lone remaining healthy team would win its game by >forfeit and be declared the CFP national champion. > >A school spokesman for Cincinnati told ESPN last week that the >school does not make its team vaccination rate public. On >Monday, Saban told reporters that more than 90% of his players >have been fully vaccinated and received a booster. > >Michigan offensive lineman Andrew Stueber told reporters on >Tuesday the team planned to get its booster shots together on >Wednesday as a team. A school spokesman for Georgia told ESPN >that over 90% of the Bulldogs were fully vaccinated as of the >SEC championship game. > >The CFP also updated its policies for on-site, as athletic >directors at each school have to certify that each person with >access to the field on game day has tested negative for >COVID-19 within 72 hours of the kickoff or has been fully >vaccinated. According to the new policies, each school will >use the same testing arrangement it used during the regular >season, and arrange for testing at the game site. > >"We certainly wish we were not in this position," Hancock >stated in the news release, "but the only responsible thing is >to take whatever actions we can reasonably take to better >protect those who play and coach the game." > >The CFP also set new COVID-19 policies for the Fiesta and >Peach bowls, stating that the CFP, the bowl game and ESPN >would try to reschedule the game within one week of the >original date. If that doesn't work, the game would be >considered a "no contest." > >The Rose Bowl, which is contractually bound to the Big Ten and >Pac-12, and the Sugar Bowl, which has contracts with the Big >12 and SEC, operate under separate agreements and don't fall >under the new CFP guidelines.
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2754373, it's only 10 days...semifinal was played last friday Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Jan-05-22 09:51 AM
amazing to think we used to have a SIX WEEK layoff for big 10 teams prior to a January bowl game.
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2754374, i had the same thought Posted by Ashy Achilles, Wed Jan-05-22 09:51 AM
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2754376, It's just because of how the semis fell with NYE, but yeah Posted by soulfunk, Wed Jan-05-22 09:58 AM
it does feel like a long time.
Or maybe it just feels that way to me since I want to completely forget that Michigan performance against Georgia...
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2754923, everyone outside of the south is super hyped up for the game tonight lol Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Jan-10-22 05:18 PM
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2754930, Who gets a coaching job first....Ed Orgeron or Urban Meyer? lol Posted by guru0509, Mon Jan-10-22 05:58 PM
I wonder if they are really going to stay retired...
just some bullshit i was thinking about while pregaming for the last college football game of the year :(
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2754931, Let Ed O coach TE's and recruit his tail off Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Jan-10-22 06:22 PM
the other ain't happening
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2754941, I could see Coach O popping up as an assistant somewhere, Urb will... Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jan-10-22 08:22 PM
probably go back to tv.
I think it will tough for any big time school to justify hiring either one as a head coach at this point.
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2755011, Will a network hire him? Posted by Ceej, Tue Jan-11-22 08:26 AM
I did like Urb on tv. Saban is good too.
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2755105, Barstool Sports Posted by guru0509, Wed Jan-12-22 03:18 AM
>I did like Urb on tv.
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2756271, Timmy Chang returns to UH after a very weird episode Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Jan-23-22 03:11 PM
not sure why the AD went to bat in front of the *state legislature* for such a well known dickhead but i guess it all worked out in the end
Timmy Chang was also c/o 2000 like i am and in the high school days i was constantly checking USA Today rankings to see where we came in every week. i remember the St. Louis High blurbs having these unbelievable numbers every week, and i made it a point to follow his career through college. loved watching him play and i hope he succeeds, bc for some reason cfb in general is more fun when Hawaii is good.
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