guess getting accused of kicking the kicker was the final straw
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1471322962083168256

That sounds like a line from a straight-to-video "Varsity Blues" sequel.

lol

I admittedly had high hopes when it started, but even before Gropegate, reports about chemistry were all baaaaaad. Dude clearly just thought "I was the shit in college football, I'll be the shit here, simple as that." And let everyone around him know it. And that... doesn't work.

Excited to see what potentially promising coach we can bribe to spend the next definitely-less-than-2.5 years of his life tending to this black hole of a franchise!

>lol
>
>I admittedly had high hopes when it started, but even before
>Gropegate, reports about chemistry were all baaaaaad. Dude
>clearly just thought "I was the shit in college football, I'll
>be the shit here, simple as that." And let everyone around him
>know it. And that... doesn't work.
>
>Excited to see what potentially promising coach we can bribe
>to spend the next definitely-less-than-2.5 years of his life
>tending to this black hole of a franchise!

Don’t worry guys will be lining up to coach TL, he’s a great piece to build around if they get the right people in there calling the shots

Lambo ain’t no little, slim kicker, either. Regardless, though…you not putting your damn feet on me. He might as well have kicked that man in the ass.

been kinda away from the news cycle this week so trying to figure this out

.

Is there a particular reason why they sat on this for 5 months?

I thought he was crazy when he said Urb might be up for a college gig.

Sounds like he wanted out the moment he was hired but he didnt have the balls to run back to college like Saban..

or

he is just a POS.

I think its the latter.

Imagine how he treated 18 year olds in college?

it for whatever reason but it was obvious from day 1 that this dude was not cut out for professional football and would fail miserably. He was already on the ropes from everything else going on then you had the franchise QB coming out saying there was too much drama around the team then the report of the kicking incident was the final nail in the coffin.

they just fired him because it was made public

what an asshole.

with their “How dare anyone question anything about college football” ass posts

No one wants a 12 team college football playoff and USC is a better job than the almighty Steelers . Mike Tomlin sucks and can’t control his team or players .




>with their “How dare anyone question anything about college
>football” ass posts

No one here said Urban would succeed at the pro level. You and Truth are just outright lying or trolling, neither would surprise me .

I love being compared to a white sociopathic 60 year old MAGA loving football coach because I root for a team he once coached for.

that seems like a reasonable comparison.

like I said, cut from the same shitty rag as Meyer

Mike Tomlin is not a civil rights icon .


You a celebrity worshipping weirdo





>like I said, cut from the same shitty rag as Meyer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

He is not a knowledgeable NFL fan.

>it for whatever reason but it was obvious from day 1 that
>this dude was not cut out for professional football and would
>fail miserably. He was already on the ropes from everything
>else going on then you had the franchise QB coming out saying
>there was too much drama around the team then the report of
>the kicking incident was the final nail in the coffin.

>

i will pay the truth's psychiatry sessions for all of 2022 if he can find one post where any 'OSU fan' (all 2 of us - at least use our names) said that urban would do well in the nfl. me and you been laughing at urban in the nfl from before it even became an actual thing. And you can find posts from me back in 2018 where I said his skills as a coach were eroding.

truth's idiotic claim was that urban would go to sc. which he was wrong about. along with absolutely every other claim he's made during his decade long urban/osu fan obsession. all of it wrong. back when 'urban would never coach at osu because it was too cold' and that he would never get southern recruits to come to osu or win a NC.

this 'victory lap' that he's taking now along with throwing shade at 'osu fans' (what do osu fans have to do with any of this?) is sad and proof of someone not living in reality. and i genuinely feel sorry for that.

you wanna take shots and fake victory laps but then you dip and act like you're above it when met with actual facts.

when is urban taking over freeman? let's get that shit on record in this thread.

Truth salty that the Lakers are dead in the water

they’re just bored and pressed


>you wanna take shots and fake victory laps but then you dip
>and act like you're above it when met with actual facts.
>
>when is urban taking over freeman? let's get that shit on
>record in this thread.

>you wanna take shots and fake victory laps but then you dip
>and act like you're above it when met with actual facts.
>
>when is urban taking over freeman? let's get that shit on
>record in this thread.

dude you care way more about this shit than I ever did lol

>dude you care way more about this shit than I ever did lol

If youre gonna obsess about it don’t cry after the fact about how you really don’t care

Saban lasted a couple years, and did have some success in the pros. We finished out that second season and only left because of the perfect situation at Alabama opening up.

he didn’t want to rush things, as it pertained to Urb…noting that both Gus Bradley and Doug Marrone got 4 seasons. That report came out about Josh Lambo and dude was gone 6 hours later.

Wouldn't be surprised if they go after him once the season ends. Loved in Jacksonville as the former QB here. OC for Tom Brady SuperBowl run (and maybe second). Perfect fit for a young QB and offense.

>Wouldn't be surprised if they go after him once the season
>ends. Loved in Jacksonville as the former QB here. OC for Tom
>Brady SuperBowl run (and maybe second). Perfect fit for a
>young QB and offense.

As you said…history with the franchise and beloved as a player
Fresh off a SB as OC
But they chose the poo poo
YT retired turd with a history of transgressions
You really have to wonder who made that decision
If it wasn’t Khan…the GM should be gone too IMO

is not quite the dig you thought it was Urb.

once fed, is out of the fucking stratosphere. and fragile as fuck. that god status is hard to shake.

Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll are rarities. Not just their success, but that they didn't pack up and leave as soon as shit got rough.

Dude looks like a brown monopoly man logo

Jags should hire Jim Harbaugh after michigan gets embarassed by Georgia

>guess getting accused of kicking the kicker was the final
>straw
>https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1471322962083168256

But Have Rapper Names

no? maybe just a little

ND now got some serious buyer's remorse and is gonna be dying to make urban the face of their program lol

>ND now got some serious buyer's remorse and is gonna be dying
>to make urban the face of their program lol

That freeman is just a placeholder for urban.

Urban is not hirable right now. I don’t even think he can go back to fox.

treat the players

Imagine how this clown was treating 18 year old kids fresh out of HS?

Dude sounds like the Bobby Knight of NFL football… in 2021

>treat the players
>
>Imagine how this clown was treating 18 year old kids fresh out
>of HS?
>
>Dude sounds like the Bobby Knight of NFL football… in 2021

Maybe even worse. With Knight, you can say he was slow to adjust to updated standards. Coaches now!? In 2021!? They have absolutely no business being caught off guard when the ridiculous stuff they do gets out..and fast. And maybe with video.

The most annoying piece for me is this: it seems like Urb thought he was gonna just do silly shit and it was going to slide even if he didn't win. Silly rabbit. Now he SHOULD know. I'm guessing he will be advised to disappear for a bit. It ain't like he needs the money and it seems clear that he's not ready to work for real..at least not anymore.

The great news: we might get Trevor a group of alleged adults around him to give him and the Jags a shot of at least being serviceable. Then we can answer the 'does Trevor suck' question more fairly.

made them real ass hostages..

so I never understood the “this is why I only watch college” when the NFL passes some new rule.

>made them real ass hostages..
>
>so I never understood the “this is why I only watch
>college” when the NFL passes some new rule.

Programming and jealousy. Meatheads have been told that these evil athletes who ‘make all this money’ don’t really deserve it. And, as a counter, these college kids are in it ‘for the love of the game’. Anytime anyone near me is saying stuff from this forest of idiotic trees, they’re usually gonna to get cussed at by me. Or at least corrected pretty sternly with IRL stories that make it obvious how wrong they are.

I get into it with some my college homeboys on the reg when they come to me broken up about kids transferring away from our old school. Using a word like ‘loyalty’. Or saying something about how ‘these kids today’ don’t stick it out. Then I counter with how these coaches are rolling out before Bowl games. Or how these recruiters will sit on your couch and lie to you about your what your role will be on a team. Then you show up on campus and find out they told 5 other dudes who play your position the same shit. Fuck that!

Zoomed out, it’s just lazy shit. Mfers know they wouldn’t want to put up with some of these shit situations these kids are put in. And don’t even start me on how big a fool they’d act if some of this shit was happening to their kid.

he knew who not to try that shit with. I’m guessing he did nothing when Percy Harvin choked his position coach out.

There have been worse seasons, for sure. But to go 2-11 with a new controversy every week is absolutely wild. His job this year wasn’t even that hard as far as NFL jobs go. Just show some promise and develop Trevor while you still kinda tank. Couldn’t even do that right. And it’s rare to see an owner shit on the coach this much on their way out.

because anyone with half a brain could see that this was going to be a train wreck.

nicca what?

All this dude had to do was not lose the locker room and he immediately hires the Iowa strength coach and brings Tebow in to play TE.

All he had to do is not be an asshole and he was like “naw.. can’t do that”

Meyer had a track record of winning

Petrino had nothing


>There have been worse seasons, for sure. But to go 2-11 with
>a new controversy every week is absolutely wild. His job this
>year wasn’t even that hard as far as NFL jobs go. Just show
>some promise and develop Trevor while you still kinda tank.
>Couldn’t even do that right. And it’s rare to see an owner
>shit on the coach this much on their way out.

Specifically when looking at the hiring decision. Had a little success at a pre-Big Ten Rutgers, then a jump straight to the NFL? Urban won chips at two different major college programs while having success at three separate schools. Tampa Bay hiring Schiano would have been like an NFL team hiring Urban right after Utah.

So schiano could bullrush kneel downs.

some coaches get to fail over and over while others are skating on thin ice from day 1



>Specifically when looking at the hiring decision. Had a
>little success at a pre-Big Ten Rutgers, then a jump straight
>to the NFL? Urban won chips at two different major college
>programs while having success at three separate schools. Tampa
>Bay hiring Schiano would have been like an NFL team hiring
>Urban right after Utah.

But honestly I don't get the mentality of why some of these coaches keep coaching. They got MILLIONS in the bank, and most could land nice easy TV gigs if they wanted to keep working in a much less stressful job while still making good money and WAY less work. I get that there's ego involved, love of the game, blah blah blah, but I just don't get it.

I get that there's ego involved, love of the
>game, blah blah blah, but I just don't get it.

>Specifically when looking at the hiring decision. Had a
>little success at a pre-Big Ten Rutgers, then a jump straight
>to the NFL? Urban won chips at two different major college
>programs while having success at three separate schools. Tampa
>Bay hiring Schiano would have been like an NFL team hiring
>Urban right after Utah.

all other shit aside, the last time urban was on a sideline prior to jacksonville he was keeling over due to his health/stress issues.

as if that was just going to no longer be a problem?

also schiano has done an outstanding job at rutgers thus far...

jumping to the NFL. As far as Urb’s health/stress issues, the same thing was cited when he left Florida but he still ended up being a great hire for OSU. And he’d clearly won everywhere he’d been, at increasing levels.

Schiano didn’t have that type of winning record at high level programs at ALL when Tampa Bay hired him. To be clear in terms of bad hires I’m only talking about TB hiring him. He was a GREAT hire at Rutgers, both times.

>jumping to the NFL. As far as Urb’s health/stress issues,
>the same thing was cited when he left Florida but he still
>ended up being a great hire for OSU. And he’d clearly won
>everywhere he’d been, at increasing levels.

IIRC his health stuff at florida was 'stress' but at OSU there was an issue of a progressive brain cyst. he was also 10 years older by the time he finished up at osu than he was at florida.

there was just absolutely no way this guy was going to physically last more than 2-3 seasons under even the best of circumstances.

Although, I like the idea of Leftwich becoming the next Jacksonville head coach, I need Ziggy to somehow convince Khan to take Zimmer and Cousins off the Vikings hands lol

oh well, a guy can dream...

He would have won 10 games a year easily at all those schools




>guess getting accused of kicking the kicker was the final
>straw
>https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1471322962083168256

if he had got fired a few weeks ago I think he would have been hired before national signing day


But now after the latest allegations…Yea you’re right he’s gonna need to get the stink off him, I fully expect him back on the sidelines by 2023 at the earliest

Every Black HC in college is on edge right now

as a Clemson fan...it would scare me shitless....and Im already scared

"aww gee shucks i done a bad thing . i was mean to people but i talked to my wife and kids and the lord and im raedy to get back to doing what i love most"...1 year of sitting out and then boom hes picking up a headset


>as a Clemson fan...it would scare me shitless....and Im
>already scared

they tend to hire young coaches



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I thought he was more inline with Rick Pitino. More of guy doing sleazy things
behind closed doors, but not inhumane, diabolical stuff, where he doesn’t
care about anybody but himself.

I think his professional career is over, especially in TV.

I knew about the situations at Florida, in regards to 31 players
being arrested, but it was no different than what went on at
Nebraska or other institutions.

The messing around with other women, and being hard on his
coaches weren’t any different than Pitino having sex with a waitress
in a restaurant, or providing players with strippers. All the big time
coaches have done immoral things at one point or another to keep
and recruit players

However, most coaches like Rick Pitino love their players, which
is quite the opposite of Urban and his psychopathic ways.

I knew about the situations at Florida, in regards to 31 players
being arrested, but it was no different than what went on at
Nebraska or other institutions.

The messing around with other women, and being hard on his
coaches weren’t any different than Pitino having sex with a waitress
in a restaurant, or providing players with strippers. All the big time
coaches have done immoral things at one point or another to keep
and recruit players

However, most coaches like Rick Pitino love their players, which
is quite the opposite of Urban and his psychopathic ways.

no idea what these dude are up to until it hits major news.

I knew he had the typical program where players got in trouble but had no idea dude was this much of a clown when it came to leadership

https://twitter.com/nocontextcfb/status/1445451327715168256?t=D5C0mcz0YSs_wxvnPP4Rfw&s=19

Just a bullshit hire for any NFL team, Chip Kelly 2.0.

Hopefully Lawrence and the others can get back on track. they at least still seem to have something resembling a defense over there.

so many magical moments

can't wait for the documentary when they interview everyone in a couple of years

in any sport because it usually doesn't work out.

I know people will try to say Pete Carroll but he had been an assistant in the NFL for 15-20 years before he went to USC and came back with Seattle.

In basketball Brad Stevens was probably on of the most successful to make the jump but his coaching career seemed to run its course quickly.

Some will trying to say Larry Brown but again he was a pro coach for years before he went Kansas and won a title then came back to the NBA.

About 10-12 years ago there were rumors that the Lakers would pursue Coach K because of his success with team USA and I was glad that those turned out to be just rumors it would've been a bad move for both sides.

But yeah - with some of these coaches it obvious that they weren’t a fit going to the pros. John Beilein NEVER made sense to me making that jump from both his perspective and from an NBA team’s perspective. The type of players he liked coaching in college weren’t the 5 star, pro level kids - he liked working with hidden gems who fit his system, and coached them up from a development standpoint. I never saw that working in the NBA where talent always wins over “system”.

Most college football coaches just don’t have personalities that translate to the pro level. I do think Saban would have definitely been successful, but like you mentioned, he had an NFL background.

>But yeah - with some of these coaches it obvious that they
>weren’t a fit going to the pros. John Beilein NEVER made
>sense to me making that jump from both his perspective and
>from an NBA team’s perspective. The type of players he liked
>coaching in college weren’t the 5 star, pro level kids - he
>liked working with hidden gems who fit his system, and coached
>them up from a development standpoint. I never saw that
>working in the NBA where talent always wins over “system”.
>
>
>Most college football coaches just don’t have personalities
>that translate to the pro level. I do think Saban would have
>definitely been successful, but like you mentioned, he had an
>NFL background.

Saban bailed on the NFL too because you can't talk to grown ass men who are millionaires they same way you talk to college kids whose entire life you control.

like a peak Joe Dumars who valued his project over a prospect

obviously Cleveland wasnt that front office

Also Barry Switzer but he simply inherited what Johnson had at Dallas and got out of the way of the team for their SB title.

Of that list, I think only Jimmy Johnson had no prior NFL coaching experience before becoming a NFL head coach. Everyone else had bounced around the NFL as assistants or coordinators before getting a HC position in CFB.

>Of that list, I think only Jimmy Johnson had no prior NFL
>coaching experience before becoming a NFL head coach. Everyone
>else had bounced around the NFL as assistants or coordinators
>before getting a HC position in CFB.

Brings a smile to my facer every time I see it in the feed. Almost to the level of Rick Pitino in RESTARAUNTS post...

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>Brings a smile to my facer every time I see it in the feed.
>Almost to the level of Rick Pitino in RESTARAUNTS post...

that one was a classic lol

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================

How tf do you kick and kicker of all people? 90's Vinatieri would've thrown hands. Sebastian Janikowski shooting the fade.

He realizsd after the second game every game felt like playing Alabama. Urb was so trash with pros that Marvin Jones demanded a fade. He really told his coaching staff Bowling Green was more qualified. Urb belongs in college.

Sebastian Janikowski shooting the
>fade.

I think that is the only thing missing from this whole ordeal

you know that several of them wanted to

that it would make a lot of people here very happy

I find that pretty weird

You're the weird one, pal

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Whether it's IRL or online if someone tells you that they no longer want to communicate then you need to respect that. If you don't have the self-control nor desire to respect those wishes then that's harassment and it makes you an unquestionably shitty person. And it makes your never ending routine of moralizing and judgement of others on here really laughable.

Please stop following me in every thread. Let me enjoy my time here. Go away. Thank you.

Urban tried hiring a strength and conditioning skinhead who regularly told Black players to "go back to the ghetto" and told others that he'd "put them back on the streets where they belong".

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fuck him.

I'm well aware of all that's occurred.

You have coaches in cfb right now who have directly contributed to the death of students and nobody gives a shit.

So I find the reactions to be really selective.

speaking for myself, I don't need to see Urban sent to the hospital by one of his players. but him acting like a complete asshole and trying to be physically intimidating to another grown man would be grounds for a possible ass kicking.

just like I wasn't cheering for adultery or embarrassment to his family when I mocked the fact he was grinding with co-eds younger than his daughter.

> but him acting like a complete
>asshole and trying to be physically intimidating to another
>grown man would be grounds for a possible ass kicking.

that wasn't relegated to the Josh Lambo incident.

*If* Urban kicked that player then of course it would've been reasonable for there to be a physical response.

But it's not as if the bloodthirst for Urban was borne out of whatever whatever happened with Lambo.

>that wasn't relegated to the Josh Lambo incident.

what-to-whom? you had two posters reply to another poster about Urban kicking his kicker and imagining the reaction if it had been another player or even another kicker. in a thread about Urban Meyer being fired. I wonder why we would be talking about Urban Meyer.

>*If* Urban kicked that player then of course it would've been
>reasonable for there to be a physical response.
>
>But it's not as if the bloodthirst for Urban was borne out of
>whatever whatever happened with Lambo.

Urban is the current whipping boy for the internet because he was the highest profile NFL head coaching hire this season and flamed out spectacularly due to his own repeated and indefensible actions. yes, OKP and the public are talking more about Urban right now in 2021 than Brian Kelly letting a kid get killed a decade ago -- thanks for putting up the mirror.

>>that wasn't relegated to the Josh Lambo incident.
>
>what-to-whom? you had two posters reply to another poster
>about Urban kicking his kicker and imagining the reaction if
>it had been another player or even another kicker. in a thread
>about Urban Meyer being fired. I wonder why we would be
>talking about Urban Meyer.

Where did I say we shouldn't be talking about urban meyer?

I threw out a hypothetical (which wasn't meant to be a challenge to you personally) based on the tone/reactions of the ENTIRE thread and the totality of urban's crimes against humanity. Guru said that he would laugh at urban getting physically beaten as punishment. I think that's a bit extreme but the two of you are welcome to disagree.


>Urban is the current whipping boy for the internet because he
>was the highest profile NFL head coaching hire this season

Right cause this is the first time Urban has dominated media headlines or this board.


>flamed out spectacularly due to his own repeated and
>indefensible actions. yes, OKP and the public are talking more
>about Urban right now in 2021 than Brian Kelly letting a kid
>get killed a decade ago -- thanks for putting up the mirror.

I think I've made it pretty clear that brian kelly is just one example of many. I threw out the death thing specifically (which would also include Durkin) because that's just a very extreme example. But if you want to broach other areas of more recent and inhumane conduct we can do that as well.

And the point was not that kelly would be in the news cycle RIGHT NOW because of what happened a decade ago but that the reaction at the time was far more subdued given what occurred.

>and nobody gives a shit.



>So I find the reactions to be really selective.

who’s reactions ? OKPs? Bc not sure how we have any influence on what ESPN and FSN choose to talk about .

They’re both bad human beings

and the reactions to kelly/urban on here are not the least bit comparable

>who’s reactions ? OKPs? Bc not sure how we have any
>influence on what ESPN and FSN choose to talk about .

I was referencing OKP. But probably both really.

>They’re both bad human beings

welcome to the world of college football coaching. most of these guys are shitheads. and the majority of the awful shit that goes down year in year out is ignored. I mean we have dumb mf's on here trying to sell us on the sainthood of James Franklin lol.

a player. Dude kicked someone then said he can kick him whenever he wants..

so yes, its not surprising some would like to see him get his ass kicked.

and as far as I remember Brian Kelly got a lot of heat for that kids death..


oh, and not sure why but you bring up James Franklin a lot.

>a player. Dude kicked someone then said he can kick him
>whenever he wants..

and as I said, a physical response in THAT instance might've been warranted. but nobody seems to really know exactly wtf happened in that moment. or at least I haven't read any sort of corroboration of the account. nothing on video, etc. It's odd to me actually that if it went down as reported that there wouldn't be a physical response.


>oh, and not sure why but you bring up James Franklin a lot.

topic of discussion from earlier in the year.

so I doubt the kicker is lying

plus, given all the wild stories about Meyer I think its on brand for him to do something
like this.

most people bring up an ass kicking because he chose to kick the smallest guy on the team

do you feel less selective now or like what?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

the next time it was windy

>Urban tried hiring a strength and conditioning skinhead who
>regularly told Black players to "go back to the ghetto" and
>told others that he'd "put them back on the streets where they
>belong".
>
>https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/CujqhG6EIMLAPT2hchCRqRaZl24=/800x504/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/VOMFBI7T6NHCRKXWGDOIZHPVIA.jpg
>
>
>fuck him.

>>Urban tried hiring a strength and conditioning skinhead who
>>regularly told Black players to "go back to the ghetto" and
>>told others that he'd "put them back on the streets where
>they
>>belong".
>>
>>https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/CujqhG6EIMLAPT2hchCRqRaZl24=/800x504/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/VOMFBI7T6NHCRKXWGDOIZHPVIA.jpg
>>
>>
>>fuck him.
>
>

in the NFL vs coaching at a university

you're just exhaustively looking for anything that hasn't been mentioned as a criticism for people who aren't urban meyer

it's not like you're trying to distract people from the fact that dude is a shitbag and you don't want to reckon with that it's just that OH SHIT LOOK OVER HERE AT MY OTHER HAND IT'S A DIVERSION

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

in sports history whenever we want to criticize what Urban Meyer has done these past 6 months.

even if those other coaches have already been called out 5, 10 or 15 years ago, or are not even in the fucking NFL, or not even specifically relevant to a current discussion that involves Urban Meyer's actions.

all the shitty coaches are in this together, not fair to point out just the one that is making headlines today!

>in sports history whenever we want to criticize what Urban
>Meyer has done these past 6 months.

now you're just intentionally being an ass

>
>even if those other coaches have already been called out 5, 10
>or 15 years ago,

Except they weren't. But keep lying to yourself. Certain things move the needle here and certain things don't. That's a fact.

>or are not even in the fucking NFL

wtf does being in the NFL vs college have to do with it??

the morality threshold differs between the two?


>or not
>even specifically relevant to a current discussion that
>involves Urban Meyer's actions.

right cause i was the person who brought up chris doyle? as a reason to cheer someone getting beaten? if you're that affected by some shithead strength coach then seems to me the person who previously employed him for 20 years (and oversaw the environment where the behavior was permitted) and still represents a university might bother you. And perhaps Ferentz should be next in line for a severe beating.

But oh wait, as long as stays coaching 18-22 year olds instead of grown men in the NFL it doesn't matter...got it.


>
>all the shitty coaches are in this together, not fair to point
>out just the one that is making headlines today!

this was already explained in my last post directed to you, which I assume you chose to ignore and misrepresent strictly for the sake of being an asshole.

My initial reply to you on this (which seemed pretty benign) was from 5 days ago. Not sure why it took you that long to get so fuckin bothered by it or why this took such a weird turn. If you didn't like my hypothetical you could've just ignored it. You can thank O_E for the bump though, I guess.

its not a good look to reference scandals from 5, 10 or 15 years ago to deflect from current scandal

>its not a good look to reference scandals from 5, 10 or 15
>years ago to deflect from current scandal

you can take the troll route as our other resident trolls have and accuse me of saying things I never said, or ignoring all the times i clowned meyer for his extensive list of misdoings...or just take the commentary for what it is. Not wishing physical injury on the man.

Up to you.

I've now clarified that intent for you to avoid any further confusion. Not much more left to say about it. Believe me or dont. I don't really care.. I'm not on fucking trial here for being an 'urban sympathizer' lmao.

My thoughts on what has occurred is plastered all over this website. Do a search if it interests you that much.

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which is the most tone deaf shit a guy could do.

Fuck Iowa but we all know coaches protect their own if they can. Urb also stood by a coach who abused his wife.

whoever hired that coach after that story would also be a POS.

go find the thread where it was discussed and I'm quite sure I made my feelings on it clear.

still don't wanna see him beaten to a pulp over it though. sorry.

you brought up Doyle, Ferentz, Brian Kelly and Franklin..

and then have the nerve to act like other people put those names in your mouth.

>you brought up Doyle, Ferentz, Brian Kelly and Franklin..

And I already told you that the franklin stuff was from a previous convo. that's you misinterpreting the meaning of that commentary. but i know that guru got it.

>and then have the nerve to act like other people put those
>names in your mouth.

'Nerve'! lmao. my supposed support of urban's misdeeds was what i was referring to with the 'putting words in my mouth' comment. It's right there in that reply. Read it again. Had nothing to do with the comments about other coaches who I certainly did mention.

Glad I was able to clarify all of this for you, though.

All in all far too much time wasted today on this dumbshit topic.

it appears you have a hard time with people piling on Urban for his shitty behavior the last 4 to 6 months

>it appears you have a hard time with people piling on Urban
>for his shitty behavior the last 4 to 6 months

which would be weird considering *I ALSO PILED ON*. the receipts are here. perhaps you're just not interpreting correctly?

all I said was that I don't wish to see him seriously physically beaten lol...as it's generally not my thing to fantasize or wish that upon anyone.

this 'deflection' stuff is pretty funny. so, my goal here is to to magically hypnotize a few online strangers into forgetting urban's misdeeds? bc if I can somehow accomplish this, then I can possibly save the urban meyer brand on a larger scale? bc the brand of some obscenely wealthy football coach is so very important to me?

It's a really dumb theory but I've said just about all that I can say on the matter and have attempted to engage with you respectfully and honestly. so if you and the rest of the urban meyer war tribunal can just wrap this up and mete out your punishment already I'd love to move on and spend my time doing something more worthwhile today. Thanks.

and you keep saying you don’t want to see him beat to a pulp like folks described some gruesome beating within an inch of his life.

.

You’re just dog piling at this point

its the old “EYE can talk shit about Urban but hold the fuck up now.. that is still family, watch ya mouth!”

I was referring more to an open palm slap 👋 or a quick 🥊 🤜 from Josh Lambo. Not a full out assault where he has to be hospitalized lol

a straw-man argument out of nothing…

miscommunications happen...not a big deal.


>I was referring more to an open palm slap 👋 or a quick
>🥊 🤜 from Josh Lambo.

which i said would've been fine and attempted to make the distinction early on in the discussion.

but here we are 50 replies later...

but 3X made it sound like people wanted a Django directors cut beating..

I didnt want to make a whole new post for this

long story short....players allege racism and bias/nepotism , toxic settings, for years, and confirmed when university fires S&C coach Chris Doyle

University forms advisory group to listen to players grievances, lead member, former offensive lineman confirms everything is true and suggets Ferentz needs to resign

Ferentz signs contract extension and then disbands advisory committee after they all concur with lead member David Porter

https://theundefeated.com/features/kirk-ferentzs-dismissed-diversity-adviser-is-right-the-iowa-coach-should-resign/


You may have heard about the recent textbook examples of racism in the Iowa football program: N-words said by a white coach, Black players singled out for punishments that were not applied to white teammates, coaches who compared Black players with criminals and said things like “go back to the ghetto” and “dumbass Black player.” It all came to light in 2020, in a flood of testimony from former Hawkeyes.

Now that the dust has settled and the university has cashed an $8.2 million Citrus Bowl check, we are being asked to believe that head coach Kirk Ferentz is not accountable for any of the abuses on his watch. Apparently it wasn’t his fault, and even if it was, everything is fine now because Ferentz has relaxed the dress code, lets players use Twitter and permits them to kneel during the national anthem. Thanks for coming, kumbaya, happy Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

That was the jaw-dropping message sent last week when the university extended Ferentz’s contract to 2029 with a $2 million per year raise, and then Ferentz dissolved an alumni advisory group whose chairman, David Porter, had said the coach should resign.


The sum total of entitlement, blindness and arrogance shown by the coach and athletic director Gary Barta is enough to make me agree with Porter: They should step down.

“To truly leave this mess behind, Kirk Ferentz needs to go,” Porter told me in an interview this week. “If we don’t move on, we’re going to lose so much ground.


“I’m just tired of it. I really am,” said Porter, an All-Big Ten offensive lineman under Ferentz from 1998 to 2002. Referring to Iowa fans who are dismissive of the players’ concerns, he said, “I’m tired of the same old stuff happening over and over. I’m tired of people telling me, ‘You don’t know what you know, you didn’t hear what you heard, you didn’t see what you saw.’ I’m tired of it. A lot of us are.”

Ferentz declined through a spokesperson to be interviewed for this story. By itself, his new contract could pass for merely appalling. Cash rules college sports, Iowa just gorged at the trough of a New Year’s Day bowl game (a 20-17 loss to Kentucky), and other coaching deals are hitting nine figures. When Ferentz clapped his hands and made the alumni advisers disappear, though, the situation escalated to outrageous. But not surprising, given his pattern of refusing to accept full responsibility for the racism in his program.

Meanwhile, the university is fighting a lawsuit filed by former players who experienced the abuse. Ferentz will make $7 million per year through 2029, but Black players who were demeaned don’t deserve a penny?

Ferentz, Barta and Iowa’s all-white board of regents are banking on two things: The media will move on, and the fan base will cheer on in a state that’s 90% white and 4% Black. Judging by my angry Twitter mentions and the racist emails I’ve received since writing about the lawsuit, a lot of people want the whole topic of the Hawkeyes’ racism to vanish along with the advisory committee members.


The roots of the problem were revealed in the summer of 2020, when the murder of George Floyd by police emboldened more than 60 former players to speak out. The university commissioned an outside review, which corroborated the players’ accounts. The only person who faced any accountability was strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle, who was allowed to resign with $1.1 million in severance pay. Offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz, the head coach’s son, has kept his job, despite being the subject of numerous complaints as well as the leader of a toothless offense ranked 121st out of 130 FBS teams. He makes $860,000 per year.

Porter told me that Ferentz has taken some of the committee’s suggestions, and the racial climate of the team has drastically improved. Ferentz has described relaxing rules about hair and tattoos and holding listening sessions. Black players and coaches say Ferentz has tried to understand where they are coming from. One of the major initiatives touted as solving the problem was the alumni advisory council, which included current NFL players Christian Kirksey and Desmond King and former NFL head coach Jim Caldwell.


Porter told The Gazette in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, that an October 2021 meeting between the group and Ferentz turned contentious. Porter had asked assistant coaches to detail their roles in creating a diverse, equitable and inclusive environment. Ferentz tried to delay the meeting, and when Porter insisted that it take place, some coaches did not come with real answers. Porter called them out on it. Porter told me that, overall, Ferentz implemented some of their suggestions but ignored others, such as an annual review and pairing Black student-athletes with alumni mentors.

On Jan. 2, Porter told his group in a text message chat that Ferentz, 66, who has led the Iowa program since 1999 and is the longest-tenured coach in the top level of college football, should retire. Another member of the committee, Jordan Lomax, tweeted that he and some other members disagreed with Porter. Lomax did not respond to my request for an interview.

On Jan. 11, Ferentz emailed the committee members that their services were no longer needed: “I have come to the decision that this is an appropriate time to dissolve the committee as it stands currently … I am giving thought to how we restructure the committee/board in a way that best serves our program.”

On Jan. 17, after The Gazette reported that he had dissolved the committee, Ferentz released a letter to players’ parents that said several members of the committee had asked to be released from their volunteer positions. Ferentz said he would reconstitute the group by selecting a group of younger alumni. He did not mention that he would be bypassing the group of backup committee members assembled by Porter. Steve Roe, Iowa’s assistant athletic director for communications, told me by email that Ferentz decided during the season to make the change, but “put off on announcing until the end of the season to avoid distraction.”


Here’s what I think really happened:

Ferentz is one of the most powerful people in the state of Iowa. By all accounts, his program demanded that players toe a hard line, and punished those who did not. He is not accustomed to his authority being challenged, let alone by someone once under his control like Porter.

All along he has avoided saying the word “racism” to describe what his players experienced, instead using phrases like “allegations of uneven treatment.” Nobody in Ferentz’s cocoon of enabling whiteness suggested it would be wiser or more empathetic to take a smaller raise, or perhaps make a significant donation to someplace like his university’s Afro-American Cultural Center.

Ironically, Porter started out thinking that Ferentz should stay. According to minutes of the advisory committee meeting from June 9, 2020, Porter told the group: “I’m all for letting KF know we want him to stay to be part of the change, but what change do we want? And how do we make sure it happens?”

When Porter demanded real change, Ferentz got rid of Porter.

Now Ferentz is free to call the plays for his next advisory committee. As long as he keeps winning games, he’s probably not going anywhere. Neither are all the other white men who control the multibillion-dollar college sports enterprise fueled by Black athletes. This is how systemic racism works. Those in control do what is needed to keep us productive. They placate the labor force with Martin Luther King Jr. quotes and powerless committees, and continue to enrich themselves while running out the clock on real justice.

Jesse Washington is a senior writer for The Undefeated. You can find him giving dudes the bizness on a basketball court near you.

https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-meyers-season-with-jaguars-was-reportedly-more-toxic-than-anyone-knew-152224930.html

“Who’s this 99 guy on the Rams?” Meyer asked one staffer during the season, according to a source. “I’m hearing he might be a problem for us.”

his comment on John Ross, after a practice:
“Hey, Trevor, you’ve got to slow it down for him,” Meyer said, according to sources who spoke to The Athletic. “These boys from the South, their transcripts ain’t right.”

That is if Ted Lasso was an entitled, morally corrupt man.

He must've been high and drunk the whole time

that dudes from the south are dumb

maybe he's just a fuckin dummy and 19 year olds didn't notice


I think he was drinking heavily tho

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

He recruited Trevor Lawrence heavily and knows he’s from the south

This guy thinks Tim Tebow is a scholar / intellectual


>that dudes from the south are dumb
>
>maybe he's just a fuckin dummy and 19 year olds didn't notice
>
>
>I think he was drinking heavily tho
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

- threatening to cut every WR on the roster

some dumb college macho bullshit for real. this is the NFL, all the good players are taken -- so who the fuck you gonna play next week, moron?

- admitting he actually kicked Josh Lambo

of course. we all knew it.

- "I hate scouts. Lazy."

well we all know he isn't on the analytics high speed rail, and we also know his brand of scouting was trying to make Tebow a gotdamn NFL tight end.

- the video

"Multiple sources said Meyer went from position group to position group telling players that the woman in the video tried to lure him onto the dance floor despite Meyer’s refusal. But according to two sources, soon after he left one position group, a second, more provocative video became public, throwing everything Meyer said in doubt."

my God, can you imagine this amazingness? "alright o-line, bring it in. just between us, let me tell you what happened..."

- pathological lying

Urban told reporters that the receivers were running the wrong routes, then told the receivers he never made the comment. so a receiver pulled up the video of the press conference, of him, making those comments.

- "clutches heart"

Meyer, who still had four years left on his contract, seemed to blame his behavior on losing. It “eats away at your soul,” he told Dakich and said he “went through that whole depression thing to where I’d stare at the ceilings.”

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https://twitter.com/thefoundation1_/status/1504150555240841223?s=21


This is a terrible look , I wish TOSU would sever all ties with this piece of shit



>guess getting accused of kicking the kicker was the final
>straw
>https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1471322962083168256

the whole thing is a cesspool across the board l and i have less than zero interest in it.

wake me when they kick the ball off in september.

>the whole thing is a cesspool across the board l and i have
>less than zero interest in it.
>
>wake me when they kick the ball off in september.

not even one year unemployed --- there has to be a hundred more interesting TV personalities than this man

>not even one year unemployed --- there has to be a hundred
>more interesting TV personalities than this man

Tbf he was really good on it and should’ve never left