Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side. Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect a great game.

last year was a letdown with such a heralded freshman class, but Vols didn't have enough shooters.

I know Barnes' history in recruiting hasn't matched the on-court success, but I like this roster a lot. Justin Powell (Auburn transfer) and Kennedy Chandler (5-star PG) are going to be problems, and if the frontcourt holds up this team has good potential.

If Josiah Jordan James is healthy, that reeeeeally helps too. I love his potential for a breakout.

Paging Guru with the usual recruiting complaints, lol. I like Branham's potential, but man, they really struggled to create shots without Duane Washington. You simply need to have perimeter creation, and they don't really have it in a polished way yet.

And Ali Ali rocked EJ Liddell on a couple of late possessions. If EJ can't figure out how to defend effectively against a team like Akron, he's not gonna be drafted.

that all that matters in November :)

>Paging Guru with the usual recruiting complaints, lol. I like
>Branham's potential, but man, they really struggled to create
>shots without Duane Washington. You simply need to have
>perimeter creation, and they don't really have it in a
>polished way yet.
>
>And Ali Ali rocked EJ Liddell on a couple of late possessions.
>If EJ can't figure out how to defend effectively against a
>team like Akron, he's not gonna be drafted.

Cuse has shooters and length. Cole Swider is a perfect fit and should’ve came here in the first place.

Handling good pressure defense will be the question mark.

I think once again: bubble team….but if we get in nobody wants to play us and we could make a sweet 16 run. But the difference is I think that’s more the “norm” than the ceiling this year. For the first time in awhile we could be better than that.

The rotation is already established. There’s nothing to figure out.

Joe Girard looks like a different player than last year: he’s in shape. He’s not doing stupid things. He’s actually 8-8 from 3 so far. He’s the 3rd shooter, rather than the second. He should get better looks.

Buddy Boeheim is a stud. He gets better every year and should be 18-20 ppg, and will have his games where even when guarded well, he’ll get hot and light it up.

Cole Swider is an ideal Syracuse forward. He’s a little slow, but he’s long, a great shooter, and can rebound and pass effectively. I can’t believe he went to Villanova. They play such different ball than Cuse, and he’s a way better fit here.

Jimmy Boeheim is actually better than I thought. He’s like 23, strong, experienced, crafty…all that coaches kid stuff and in his 5th year of college. Pretty versatile, he’s got the little floater shots, decent ball handler and passer, not a great shooter but can make them if left open. He’s a more aggressive and stronger Marek Dolezaj type.

Jesse Edwards gives us our first legit center in years that’s actually a center. He can give us 8 and 6 and block shots.

Frank Anselem is the backup center - he will be better than Edwards at everything except blocking shots. He’s just young. Going to be a player.

Symir Torrence is the backup PG. Local kid and 4 star recruit who struggled at Marquette for 2 years. Can’t shoot, won’t score much, solid ball handler and pass first PG who defends. He’ll be an adequate backup.

Benny Williams…the X factor. Big recruit. Incredible athlete. Not much offensive game yet. Shoots line drives. Insane defensive potential, and will eventually be very good. If he progresses and finishes the year strong - we’ll be very tough by March. If he’s just not there yet he his year, we’ll be ok….a very dangerous shooting team with length, but lacking the athleticism of the really good teams.

We’ll get boat races a few times and the FSU and Louisville type teams will be a problem for us, but think we could be pretty good.

This personnel is better equipped to shoot than past Cuse teams, but the defensive length and strength and disruptiveness doesn’t compare to years past. Obviously early in the season, but they’re currently 117th in KenPom on defense after getting *shredded* by Colgate. I think they have to find a way to at least be a top 75 defense, otherwise they’re gonna reeeeeally be crossing their fingers more than usual on selection day.

They are slow as shit at all 5 positions in the starting lineup, so they better get really comfortable in their rotations.

They were up 17-2 to start the game, so…..lost by 30 to Colgate the last 30 minutes or so. Wow. I know Colgate is pretty good and a horrible matchup for the zone. But come on.

Swider’s and Benny’s lack of production is killing us.

.

The hits just keep on coming this year LOL. Spent most of this pre-season with ever building hype from how much the Raptors liked what we did with Dalano Banton to Katz seeding us at 10 in March to utterly dominating our exhibition games...


Then outrebounded by 20+ and several missed free throws with the game on the line to lose by one. The campus is cursed! Thankfully you learn way less about a basketball team after one game than a football team, but still...ooph.


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I HATE Duke but he's local and was coached by one of my best friends in HS.

So, now I gotta low key support Duke by supporting him.

This feels gross.

Looks like it was a great game

'Nova kinda collapsed in OT imo.

(But I'm also a fucla kinda guy so take that with a grain of salt (sorry Kung!))

i treated myself to season tickets at Pauley this season. just got a feeling about this year

In the end, Nova just ran out of steam-- their rotation is shallower, and some of those guys just don't have the experience playing long minutes that UCLA does. Guys like Dixon and Slater just haven't played 40 minute games before. Justin Moore also got caught on bullshit foul trouble really early, and that hurt his effectiveness on both ends-- he's their best player imo and is going to be really important for them in big games like this.

Juzang's ability to make difficult shots is other-worldly. I've no doubt that he will completely shoot UCLA out of a game at some point this season (shit, he almost did in the first half), because his shot selection is absurd... but when he's going, he's one of those guys that *truly* can't miss.

I still think end of the day that Nova is probably the better team. Losing in OT in a true road game this early in the season with Justin Moore in bad foul trouble is probably the sort of thing that makes them a much better team come March. But I am still really impressed with Cronin's team defense, especially considering Juzang and Campbell aren't really good defenders and are out there at all times. Says a lot about the coaching and says a lot about the impact of guys like Jaquez (the best pro prospect on UCLA imo-- for this upcoming draft anyway, maybe Watson passes him long term) and Myles Johnson, both of whom were really terrific.

And unable to give UCLA real honest props?


>In the end, Nova just ran out of steam-- their rotation is
>shallower, and some of those guys just don't have the
>experience playing long minutes that UCLA does. Guys like
>Dixon and Slater just haven't played 40 minute games before.
>Justin Moore also got caught on bullshit foul trouble really
>early, and that hurt his effectiveness on both ends-- he's
>their best player imo and is going to be really important for
>them in big games like this.
>
>Juzang's ability to make difficult shots is other-worldly.
>I've no doubt that he will completely shoot UCLA out of a game
>at some point this season (shit, he almost did in the first
>half), because his shot selection is absurd... but when he's
>going, he's one of those guys that *truly* can't miss.
>
>I still think end of the day that Nova is probably the better
>team. Losing in OT in a true road game this early in the
>season with Justin Moore in bad foul trouble is probably the
>sort of thing that makes them a much better team come March.
>But I am still really impressed with Cronin's team defense,
>especially considering Juzang and Campbell aren't really good
>defenders and are out there at all times. Says a lot about the
>coaching and says a lot about the impact of guys like Jaquez
>(the best pro prospect on UCLA imo-- for this upcoming draft
>anyway, maybe Watson passes him long term) and Myles Johnson,
>both of whom were really terrific.

I thought Texas did an admirable job of fighting them in the second half, Beard made some nice defensive adjustments... and it just didn't matter. Drew Timme is just unstoppable in the paint unless you have a true, strong big man who holds his ground and doesn't bite for ball fakes. Texas kept getting caught in Few's switches, so guys like Christian Bishop and Brock Cunningham were having to guard him, and that may as well be a layup for Timme, lol. (In the first half, it often was literally a layup.) The matchup against guys like Myles Johnson in the UCLA game and Mark Williams and Theo John in the Duke game will be really interesting, as Johnson and John in particular will gladly get physical, and getting physical with Timme was the only thing that even slowed him down last year. (UCLA's gonna have a big problem figuring out who to guard Holmgren-- Duke has Banchero, and there's no love between those two, so that should make for sensational television.)

Texas is going to be really, really good, that was just a brutal matchup for them, especially since they didn't have Dylan Disu. Loved what I saw from Timmy Allen and Tre Mitchell in particular-- and I'd still consider them my Big 12 favorite (though if Agbaji is actually making the leap for Kansas, I'll backpedal on that quickly, lol).

That swagger that makes him so electric when he’s on is his worst enemy when he’s off.

Too much Rucker Park and not enough substance...see Marbury and Walker.

It drives me mad. That game was in the bag, and poor ball protection is what
lost it.

Chris Holtmann is a fucking bum


>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Value City Arena (worst name ever for a college basketball arena) is so fucking vacuous and dead. it sounds like a library inside an nba stadium...just dead and devoid of any electric game atmosphere.

the last time it was truly loud and rocking was 10 years ago November 29th , 2011 when Jared Sullinger and William Buford beat the living shit out of Duke....I was there for that game and it was one of the best nights of my life.


ever since then, nothing.


>Chris Holtmann is a fucking bum
>
>
>>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring
>in
>>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either
>side.
>>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I
>expect
>>a great game.
>

outplayed, outcoached, outhustled

good lesson for Chandler; he got grown-manned by Villanova's guards

>good lesson for Chandler; he got grown-manned by Villanova's
>guards

UNC's guards looked lost

Chandler was better, but Zeigler brought a ton of juice off the bench

Going to be an interesting year for the Tar Heels. They'll of course play lights out defense against Duke, per usual... but I don't think this is a Top 100 defense. Which means they need, like, a Top 5 offense to not be a bubble team.

Manek saved them from a pretty embarrassing final score

Two strong preseason wins to add to the resume. Anything less than a regular season B1G title (baring injuries, no jinx) would be a disappointment.

Jaden Ivy is electric, Edey/Trevion twin towers is unmatched. And sacha is on fire.

Is Purdue, so I’m due don’t crazy calamity is coming, but enjoying it till then

They were my easy pick to win even a loaded Big Ten, because that talent is real and Painter is probably the best coach in the conference.

gm 1 1/11 and gm 2 2/5

id like to see both of those games each like 3 weeks later

Schmidt does a great job there.

Don't think he would've left last summer since his team brought literally everyone back... but the team's all seniors this year. When they all leave, definitely opens the door for Schmidt to snag a sweet high-major gig.

Marquette's better than people think. Think folks wrote them off as straight-up bad when they're probably NIT good at absolute worst.

Once I saw the Bonnies didn't fuck around in the first half for once, I knew this one wouldn't go well for Marquette in the second half. Bonnies may not lose more than five games this year. Top 4-5 seed is a very real possibility.

Multiple future pros, Mark Few's main disciple-- I don't know why I didn't take them at like 135/1 preseason. They look absolutely incredible.

Usually these games don’t live up to the hype, but I’m gonna stay up and see since I’m off of work.

Dickie V on the call.

Good thing I have football to distract me from this (for now)

That was a cold blooded Kobe dagger shot by Meechie Johnson tho


>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Ej Liddell deserves better

If I saw Chris Holtmann in person I would assault him jk kinda


>Good thing I have football to distract me from this (for now)
>
>
>That was a cold blooded Kobe dagger shot by Meechie Johnson
>tho
>
>
>>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring
>in
>>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either
>side.
>>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I
>expect
>>a great game.
>

lots of possessions but with skill

snails pace . How the hell is he gonna keep up in the nba I’m genuinely asking

>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Yes his skilled but the hype for this kid is over the top.

Went 1-2 but both losses were respectable. I thought this season was a wrap after the Wagner loss.

Surprisingly more Zags fans than Duke fans, and they were definitely demonstrative out there. That fanbase is very real-- certain areas just live and breathe basketball, and Mark Few's done that in Spokane. Really impressed with how they showed up.

End of the day, Gonzaga relies on their front court to win, and they ran into us, the only team in the country that has a better front court than them. Our front court might not run up NPOY solo numbers like Timme or have the allure of Chet's versatility, but we're strong, physical, finish well, Paolo can shoot beautifully, and unlike Timme, both our guys defend. Timme just couldn't get going on anything outside of ball screens.

Paolo is a superstar, but I was impressed with the whole team

Moore looks like a different player from when I saw him last year; his game is perfect for college

fuck Coach K though

He still forces the issue sometimes with his passing/dribble drive, but his assist rate has nearly doubled, his turnover rate has nearly halved, and he's shooting a respectable 34% from 3 (pretty great for a guy whose shot was mostly atrocious the first two years). He also more than anything else just looks stronger and more athletic-- a lot of his turnovers in the first two years came from getting in trouble and not having the speed or strength to make it out, and he's clearly made some gains in both departments.

It also just helps, goes without saying, for Duke to have a little experience in Moore. We haven't had a top 30 recruit impact upperclassman since Grayson Allen-- usually anyone who stays that long is Just A Guy and can't really be relied on in tough situations. The experience from Moore (and Mark Williams... and to a much lesser extent Jeremy Roach) has really helped in those spurts where Paolo floats a little or Keels struggles to find his rhythm.

If Moore can continue to defend at this level and maintain that A:T ratio... there's a non-zero chance he could actually be an NBA draft pick, unfathomable this time last year.

>fuck Coach K though

lol

Bohannon is STILL at Iowa???.. Bruh

>Bohannon is STILL at Iowa???.. Bruh

I do wonder if the emotion of Ohio State suffering a close loss and Duke coming off a big emotional win makes this a possible asleep-at-the-wheel spot for Duke. We've had some weak first halves against the non-Kentucky-and-Gonzaga set, and I don't think it'd be wise for us to take OSU for granted, especially in our first true road game.

That said, OSU just needs so much from Liddell to win here, and Paolo will be on him. I like that specific matchup a lot, obviously, lol. Wouldn't be surprised to see OSU zone early and often-- we saw some zone from undersized teams, but a true zone from a high-major would be an interesting challenge for a Duke team that struggles to shoot.

>I do wonder if the emotion of Ohio State suffering a close
>loss and Duke coming off a big emotional win makes this a
>possible asleep-at-the-wheel spot for Duke. We've had some
>weak first halves against the non-Kentucky-and-Gonzaga set,
>and I don't think it'd be wise for us to take OSU for granted,
>especially in our first true road game.


Everyone on campus depressed over Saturday, I’d be shocked if the crowd is loud. Holtmann is not a popular man in Columbus right now either , he doesn’t have the student love that Matta had ( and earned )


>That said, OSU just needs so much from Liddell to win here,
>and Paolo will be on him. I like that specific matchup a lot,
>obviously, lol. Wouldn't be surprised to see OSU zone early
>and often-- we saw some zone from undersized teams, but a true
>zone from a high-major would be an interesting challenge for a
>Duke team that struggles to shoot.

Banchero about to eat his lunch and dinner . I hope it’s not too ugly

This batch of players just hasn't developed into pros like Bennett had happen with his better squads from a few seasons back. If your best player is Kihei Clark, your ceiling is bubble team.

On the best missed free throw I've maybe ever seen.

Got the luckiest NC win of all time in 87, and we’ve beat the shit out of your hoe asses every single time we’ve played since then.

For real…fuck you, Hoosiers. Hoe ass program.

Hahahahahaha


It’s still Fuck Chris Holtmann though .



>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

But yeah, like I said above, a comedown spot for Duke. The foul trouble from everyone sucked the wind out of their sails on offense, and they settled for bad shots. And K should’ve adjusted his defense in the second but didn’t. Oh well. We lose an early road game every year, glad we got it out of the way pre-conference, lol.

>But yeah, like I said above, a comedown spot for Duke. The
>foul trouble from everyone sucked the wind out of their sails
>on offense, and they settled for bad shots. And K should’ve
>adjusted his defense in the second but didn’t. Oh well. We
>lose an early road game every year, glad we got it out of the
>way pre-conference, lol.

Roy lost to Wofford multiple times. And UAB. And College of Charleston.

Jay Wright lost to Furman. And Penn. And Columbia.

Even great coaches lose shitty games. So it's to be expected that really good coaches will also lose a few. *shrug*

I know I'm not going to convince you, and that's fine. But I think Holtmann's a good coach. And whether you think he is or not, his game plan in the second half was obviously superior to K's. So you can take that for whatever it's worth, I guess, lol.

I needed that laugh. All those guys are in a different galaxy from this quaker cornball. They're allowed to have a mulligan.


>I know I'm not going to convince you, and that's fine. But I
>think Holtmann's a good coach.


if you watched a single TOSU game this year, you'd know how shitty they played until tonight. Hell, (ask any HONEST and objective) TOSU fans. Or take a gander at the comments on 11w for past games. Substitutions all wrong, no recruiting depth, weak ass guard play and no defensive identity...typical of Holtamnn teams.



i didnt watch tonights game. i was at the nets knicks game having fun. im actually annoyed we won. these types of wins are just going to give him more time.

this is one of those "every blind squirrel finds a nut" games, we caught Duke sleeping.

edit I'll donate $150 to the Duke Children's Hospital if we finish above 4th in the conference this year.

The brotherhood

Michigan has guard issues, Caleb Houstan isn’t really ready, and Dickinson is not equipped to deal with a guy like Bacot who matches his size but is laterally quicker (foul trouble didn’t help).

But Caleb Love playing this well against teams not named Duke would be big for Carolina this year in a very weak ACC.

Wooooooow.

Thought they’d do it at the end of the season but the powers that be had enough. Back to back losses where they looked clueless.
Lost to George Mason, should’ve lost to Hofstra and was in dog fights with Richmond and GW. Below average attendance didn’t help either.

Apparently he was sick of getting booed, lol.

.

And the nonexistent half court offense coaching from Penny.

Yeah. They're really, really bad. Like, maybe they don't miss the tourney because the AAC is weak... but man. They're in danger.

Bates is a selfish gunner. Got exposed late in his HS career.

this isn't AAU

“Everybody’s trying to get to the NBA off the ranking we had, but nobody is willing to sacrifice minutes, touches, anything. It’s been miserable. You can imagine what a 17-year-old is thinking as he’s trying to figure it out.”

Emoni Bates is easily the top talent reason they’re losing. If Penny’s asking vets to sacrifice time and touches for Bates, the vets are right.

"There’s a group of people on this team that if I played them, I really feel in my heart we could be undefeated or only have one loss."

Weird, if only there was a man whose job it was to put the ideal winning players into a basketball game!

"The main reason we have these losses is the veterans don’t want to take the young guys under their wings. They want it to be about them. So when adversity hits, they run. I guarantee you we’ll start winning because you’re gonna see guys out there who care and will carry out the game plan. They might make mistakes, but there are not gonna be any character issues.”

He tried to say a couple other times in the interview, “I’m the coach so it’s on me”… but then he says this. lmao. nah, dude.

“I’ve tried to think it through as a guy that played the game. Our problems have nothing to do with X’s and O’s. We have character issues all the way around.”

Abjectly insane considering there is zero comprehensible halfcourt offense being run. To single out your Xs and Os as not being the problem when it’s been the main reason your team has underachieved since your arrival is just wild beyond measure.

Talking heads need to stop overhyping these freshman.

should be an interesting battle against Tennessee next game

If the ball's with Williams and Nolley instead of Bates, your team is IMMEDIATELY better. On both ends. And Bama's gonna struggle some with aggressive big men this year due to Bediako being raw, Gurley being a disappointment, and Gary just giving up too much height to true bigs. Was a perfect game for Williams to come out and remind people that he was pretty obviously their best player last year.

It definitely also helped that they caught Bama on their first road game of the year after a big emotional win a few days prior. Not terribly dissimilar to Duke dropping against OSU right after the Gonzaga win. I think Bama is pretty clearly better than Memphis, just a classic "bad spot" game.

Tennessee's been turning teams over really well this year-- and Memphis can't *not* turn it over. I like the spot for Tennessee, especially on the heels of a much-needed Memphis win, but since Tennessee's been pretty jump-shot reliant, if Memphis can similarly lock down the perimeter (and not play Bates), they could make it interesting if Tennessee's 3s aren't falling.

Tennessee was literally doing shootaround and Memphis said they have a covid outbreak

things that make you go "hmmmm"

Good for those dudes.

Bunch of little goomba hackers. These refs are hideous.

(im currently in grad school at rutgers, so theyre my de facto number 2 team)

but what a buzzer beater...

Ron Harper JR is a dawg

>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Build a 10 point halftime lead with 13 assists, sparked by the bench and backup PG(should be starter) Symir Torrence - the only guard on the team that can defend and that can go by anybody.

2nd half….plays the starting 5 the whole half, and goes ISO in the post for his Cornell transfer son the whole time. Absurd.

Do others in the fanbase feel this way? or are you the outlier?

>Build a 10 point halftime lead with 13 assists, sparked by
>the bench and backup PG(should be starter) Symir Torrence -
>the only guard on the team that can defend and that can go by
>anybody.
>
>2nd half….plays the starting 5 the whole half, and goes ISO
>in the post for his Cornell transfer son the whole time.
>Absurd.

Program has slipped big time, but has still usually been able to sneak in the tourney and make a sweet 16 run every couple years. I think that has kept any unrest pretty quiet, as there hasn’t been a truly bad season or stretch.

I think most see that his kids are graduating this year and figure that’s a logical time to do it, and can deal with a bad year this year.

If he sticks around beyond this season and things keep slipping, I think people’s patience may start to wane. The last thing anyone wants to see is an ugly exit for a legend, but the standards set with him as coach are much higher than this….which makes it a tricky situation.

1980s: 8 tournaments. Average seed: 3
1990s: 8 tournaments. Average seed: 5
2000s: 7 tournaments: Average seed: 4
2010-14: 5 tournaments: Average seed: 2
2015-21: 4 tournaments: Average seed: 10

It’s just been such a big fall off post 2014. Things can change in a hurry in hoops off just one really good recruiting class, but it just doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen again under JB.

Their last three second weekends were as an 11 seed, 11 seed, and 10 seed, IIRC. Haven't had a top 4 seed since 2014. If they didn't have those fortunate runs in the tourney and had only made, say, one sweet 16 and zero top 4 seeds in the tournament in the last 7-8 seasons? That would... be really bad for a team of Cuse's pedigree.

Georgetown's had a top 4 seed more recently than Cuse, which is *insane* to think about, lol.

>Their last three second weekends were as an 11 seed, 11 seed,
>and 10 seed, IIRC. Haven't had a top 4 seed since 2014. If
>they didn't have those fortunate runs in the tourney and had
>only made, say, one sweet 16 and zero top 4 seeds in the
>tournament in the last 7-8 seasons? That would... be really
>bad for a team of Cuse's pedigree.
>
>Georgetown's had a top 4 seed more recently than Cuse, which
>is *insane* to think about, lol.

Another thing - there was patience for awhile due to the sanctions. From like 2015-18 or so, that was a reasonable point. Hey, we had sanctions and still made a final 4 and sweet 16. Relax.

But the 2019 team was a major disappointment. Almost everybody back from a sweet 16 team and they get an 8 seed and get bounced round 1. So the team that was supposed to be the one that was “Syracuse again”….top 25 all year and can beat anyone and a top 4-5 seed, was a flop and then recruiting hasn’t picked up. Even with last years sweet 16 run, we couldn’t even compete with Houston. That never used to happen. We not only had the vexing zone, but the same level of size and athletes as any of the top teams….the CJ Fairs, Jerami Grants, Flynn, Christmas, Waiters….we’re just not getting guys like that anymore. Gotta get back to getting Philly and DMV kids, and not Boeheim’s sons and their AAU teammates. Even the good Upstate NY kids, we’ve missed out on too many. Isiah Stewart, Thomas Bryant, Kevin Huerter, those kids would’ve been Orange locks in previous eras. We’re like a mediocre Notre Dame type team at this point….the kind of team we used to thump by 15-20 every time.

most rebounds in a D1 game since 2015, and I never heard of anyone outrebounding the entire opposing team before.

Huggy lost.

hopefully Arizona doesn't fall off

If they call the travel on Chandler before that Fulkerson and-1, the end result may have changed. Not that one call changes the game that much, Arizona still had opportunities, but just shows how close these two teams were-- and in a road game for the Wildcats at that.

I took a futures bet on them at 60 to 1, and I'm mad I waited that long... my buddy snagged them at 90 to 1. Arizona should win the Pac-12 (I like them more than UCLA), they've got a great shot at a 1 seed, and I think this win will age very very well for the Vols.

I think that should disqualify you from the Sweet 16 automatically

Vols still won, because Ole Miss had more turnovers (27) than made field goals (22)

college basketball, man

you just have to accept the sport will be awful some nights

Duke obviously had a COVID pause, but that game vs. Georgia Tech was one of the worst I've ever seen. Somehow scored fewer points than a Virginia vs Clemson game.

Second game off COVID pause. We sucked last game too, Georgia Tech is just godawful. They’ll figure it out. (Will probably lose at Wake Wednesday too.)

But Wendell Moore looked All-American before the pause and has been appalling the last two games. So... that feels like a pretty good guess to me.

Terrible loss.

team is plenty talented to rebound, but no promising signs yet

Kentucky going turbo at Rupp, not much you can do. The other two losses, to top 5 SEC teams on the road, I also don't have much problem with. (Especially since no Chandler for the Bama game.)

But Tennessee should be happy to play a muck-it-up game like the one with Ole Miss, but the offense was just so bad that a bad team like Ole Miss hung around way longer than they should.

The problem, really, has been Chandler kind of hitting a freshman wall in terms of his efficiency. Been turning it over more, from what I've seen, and generally getting bothered with the defensive pressure and physicality he's facing (his size worries me as a pro prospect, and that's kind of cropping up here, from what I can tell). Also, the offense really needs Justin Powell to not be a nothingburger, and he kind of has been in the last couple games I've watched.

Still think Tennessee's fine, Top 5 team in the SEC, 5 or 6 seed in the tourney, around that range, maybe some upside for more if they get some big wins. But to really contend for a Final Four, Chandler has to go Super Saiyan, I don't really presently see another way.

even when he has a great team. conversely, he's almost always been competitive against Kentucky so I really wasn't expecting to be completely out of it from the start at Rupp.

Barnes fucked up with Powell and hopefully he realizes it. he gets so stuck on maximum defensive efficiency, that he forgets we need people that put the mfing ball in the hoop.

Barnes said that Powell needs to play better defense to get minutes. OK, but why wasn't he even on the floor when they were down by 2 at bama in the final 30 seconds? this was *after* bama had taken a timeout. lying like shit.

I get basketball is a two-way game, but you don't bury your deep threat wide receiver because you got some plodder that run blocks better than him.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/14/maryland-assistant-bruce-shingler-suspended-after-arrest/

you hate to see it.

That's all.

So frustrated with this team and paints in game management this season. Losses @ Rutgers and IU, and the worst perimeter defense from a Purdue team in decades doesn't portend well for a March final 4 run

UNC gets fucking taken to the shed by Miami, who's now first in the ACC despite being a bubble team at best (woof, this conference).

And Duke sucks ass for 35 minutes at FSU (per tradition), comes racing back to make it a game at the very end (per tradition), and, in overtime, loses in the dumbest fucking way when we don't get the ball to our best player (per tradition). Intensely annoying.

Wong got whatever he wanted in their game.

But he has been dreeeeeeeadful since the pause.

And even if he is the veteran dude... Paolo's gotta have the ball there. He had like 26-12-7 for fuck's sake. He's a monster.

Inquiring mind wants to know

Edit: "Ban-chair-oh" jerseys would sell like fucking hotcakes if he went to the spurs.."what do you call a basketball-loving ranchero?"

Edit 2: But seriously though, they're not called "huevos rank-heros"--you can't just willy-nilly go against certain fundamental rules of letter-combo pronunciation

Edit 3: Yeah it's bugging me

The CH sound is a hard K in Italian.

Kelsey Riggs was fucking with me this morning then

so like Banquero--Ban-care-oh..whats her face on ESPN was straight up saying "bank hero"

(After tonight's loss to SMU, dropping Memphis to 7th in the AAC)

Q: Can you get the job done at Memphis?

A: "This media gets kind of fucked up sometimes when it comes to me. We don't have our full roster. You all know we don't have our full roster. Stop asking me stupid fucking questions about if I feel like I can do something.

If I had my roster like they did, then I feel like I could do whatever I want to do. I'm coaching really hard, my boys are playing really hard, I'm not embarrassed about nothing. We have four freshman starting. You all need to act like it. Act like we got 17, 18 and 19 year-olds out here trying to learn how to play against 22, 23 and 24 year-old guys.

Come on. Stop disrespecting me, bro. I work way too hard for that. Y'all write all these fucking articles about me, and all I do is work. We got young kids on the floor!"

.

From his coaching to the players.

curious if he gets 2 full seasons or if they let him get into a 3rd before they pull the plug cause its clear as day to me.

never let the guy leaving pick his successor.

can't remember the last time they got whipped like that at home, it wasn't even competitive

I would hate to draw Alabama in my bracket, they have a bunch of shitty losses but also wins over Gonzaga, Houston, LSU, Tennessee and now Baylor (I'm sure they'll beat Auburn once) -- they'll be under-seeded and a potential early round nightmare game

Tennessee...great playcall at the end, but :(

Alabama’s guard play is serious. Good to see Quinerly find his game, got all of the Jelly fam bullshit out of his system.

rest of the team is dogshit

Malaki Branham looks GOOD...dude plays controlled and poised, reminds me of Spencer Dinwiddie before he got hurt.




>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Terrible at holding on to them, regardless of competition. That game was nice to get Ivey another big moment in the spotlight though.

It's just hard for me to adjust to a Purdue team that is this fundamentally poor defensively. Best offensive team we've ever had, but wow y they can't defend worth a lick.

The technical foul and the subsequent foul-- where a Louisville player got called for a foul for Bacot clotheslining him-- absolutely reek of a ref having a UNC -3.5 ticket.

Wish Louisville's interim coach would've just gotten ejected, frankly. It would've been worth it. We see dodgy calls for home teams every game-- but for the dodgiest calls I've seen all year to go against you on your home court? I can't even imagine what the Louisville team is going through tonight. Unreal.

He was weirdly stand-off ish with reporters and unusually snarky

Idk if the stress of underperforming is getting to him but it was very surprising

I bet on them to make the final four and right now that is looking shakyyy smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

I know UCLA did it last year, but that's the exception not the rule, lol.

Bad combo for them of inexperience, a coach who's never had a team this inexperienced, and a Big 10 that got a lot tougher/more talented at the top. Like, Hunter Dickinson was a Top 5 Big Ten player last season, Top 6 at worst. Now he's... what, tail end of the Top 10? That's just a bad combo of things to happen all at once.

Howard also had to learn the hard way that not every mid-major transfer PG is gonna be Mike Smith. He's also the exception to the rule. Most mid-major transfer PGs are Devante Jones.

If we make it I’ll pass out (I bet on us too)..Malaki Branham is a baller , I was annoyed about him wearing Jimmy Jackson’s number tbh, Holtmann out of line for unretiring that


Aside from that early loss to Rutgers , Purdue has looked a slight cut above everyone else in conference …

>I know UCLA did it last year, but that's the exception not
>the rule, lol.
>
>Bad combo for them of inexperience, a coach who's never had a
>team this inexperienced, and a Big 10 that got a lot
>tougher/more talented at the top. Like, Hunter Dickinson was a
>Top 5 Big Ten player last season, Top 6 at worst. Now he's...
>what, tail end of the Top 10? That's just a bad combo of
>things to happen all at once.
>
>Howard also had to learn the hard way that not every mid-major
>transfer PG is gonna be Mike Smith. He's also the exception to
>the rule. Most mid-major transfer PGs are Devante Jones.
>

Purdue's had defense issues on occasion. Illinois made it through the stretches with no Cockburn and the big stretch of no Curbelo with minimal speed bumps. Underwood's a terrific coach (shout out to the poster who knows who he is who said he didn't believe Underwood would work and fought with me about it). I think they're a sneaky Final Four level team, which is crazy to consider the year after they lose Ayo.

Cockburn has just been so unstoppable-- wild to think that none of the Purdue guys might even be Top 3 Big Ten POY vote getters.

just doesnt feel right at all.

Hi, Frankie.

😘

UNC is not a good team and they should not make the tournament. What a special moment to watch a packed Dean Dome chanting "Fuck Coach K" before the game and seeing that same Dean Dome nearly empty with 6 minutes left in the second half.

🍎 🍏

EJ got busy

(Turgen looked helpless at times yikes)

>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Terrible.
Wahab has been a major disappointment. Needs to pack his shit and go on back around the corner to Georgetown.

>(Turgen looked helpless at times yikes)

He bounced and is sipping mai tais on a beach, glad he doesn't have to deal with these dudes anymore. Danny Manning's the coach now.

>
>>(Turgen looked helpless at times yikes)
>
>He bounced and is sipping mai tais on a beach, glad he doesn't
>have to deal with these dudes anymore. Danny Manning's the
>coach now.

worst looking dead leg I've seen in a while, but all good

Zero shots made the last 6 minutes and blew an 8 point lead with 3 mins to go smh

Abysmal

>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

I was expecting a michigan win but they made EJ look like Charles Barkley


That mixhigan back court shaky af

I tried to watch Duke-UNC a few weeks ago….trash. Not the same.

I don’t like watching anybody. Nobody is good. The style of play sucks. I don’t know anybody. This sport is washed.

>I tried to watch Duke-UNC a few weeks ago….trash. Not the
>same.
>
>I don’t like watching anybody. Nobody is good. The style
>of play sucks. I don’t know anybody. This sport is
>washed.

Everybody sucks.

Of course Cuse is appalling too, goes without saying. You're probably getting skewed by watching ACC basketball, because this is the worst ACC in recent memory. They're getting *maybe* four teams in the dance, max.

But this is a better year for "knowing players" than there's been in a while tbh, because most of the lottery picks in the NBA Draft come from the best teams. I'd bet 8 of the Top 10 picks, 11-12 of the lottery picks in general, and, like, 15 of the Top 20 picks are coming from Top 15 AP poll teams.

On top of that, you have an incredible Big 10 Player of the Year race, loads of parity there. You have a tighter Big 12 than normal, with a genuine 3-way race at the top. SEC is really stacked at the top. Even the Big East is fun again, since Connecticut and Marquette are actually good again and Providence has been having a fucking miracle run. There are also some really fucking good mid-majors.

I think it's shaping up to be a perfect NCAA Tournament. None of the top teams are completely untouchable, plenty of really good mid-majors are going to get in, and a lot of those 8-10 seed teams are teams with either a big star or a really strong coach, both of which can help cause chaos. I'm really excited.

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And Pat let’s him.
No flow or chemistry with the Hoyas

I ask mainly because I'm a huge Ewing fan based on what he did for the Knicks, but I don't follow college basketball, so I wouldn't know how poorly Ewing is doing at this job.

It would suck for Ewing to get the axe since he waited so many years to get a head coaching gig, compounded with the fact this is his alma matter, but if he's actually hurting Georgetown by being the head coach, them I suppose I can't argue with him getting fired.

Talk to me Longo

I've no doubt that Duke batted around the idea of Amaker. But if anyone thinks they offered the job to anyone without Coach K signing off on it? I've got some swamp land in Florida to sell you, lol.

great win against UK at home, which is usually what happens when Barnes and Cal meet in Knoxville

Even roughed up UK’s assistant coach. Lol

So I stumbled across Oregon State and thought, wait, weren't they decent at basketball? And came across their wiki page:


"Oregon State has been terrible at basketball in 2022 and won 14 conference championships and appeared in the NCAA Tournament 18 times (three (1980–82) were later vacated by the NCAA). The Beavers have advanced to the Final Four twice (1949, 1963), and their most recent tournament appearance was in 2021, when they advanced to the Elite Eight after winning their first tournament games since 1982."


Some do-gooder will get rid of that first sentence eventually but that's hilarious. And sad.


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i HATE everyone on this team except for EJ and Malaki.

Fire the AD for putting up with this bullshit every year too. Fucking bum.


In Thads first 5 years he had a big ten championship, and a final 4 appearance..let that sink in..he won 26 games his second year with JIM OBRIEN recruits.


If Radin was alive he'd be disgusted at this shit show too.


College basketball fucking sucks.


>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

well barely even one really, he was going after the Wisconsin coach and hit an assistant coach. They were saying he was mad about a timeout Wisconsin called or something, WTF?

Yeah, he was apparently mad Gard called timeout to save his walkons from a turnover… but there was only going to be a turnover because Howard had his starters pressing against Wisconsin’s walkons. Insane sequence. He’s done for a while.

>Yeah, he was apparently mad Gard called timeout to save his
>walkons from a turnover… but there was only going to be a
>turnover because Howard had his starters pressing against
>Wisconsin’s walkons. Insane sequence. He’s done for a
>while.

THAT'S CRAZY! (c) Brian Fellow

Pressure might be getting to him,

He might be suspended or fired , sucks. Even though I loathe them , I always like it when a player succeeds at his alma mater.

Still cant beleive UCONN did Kevin Olie like that

Dude was on one for a whole half.

The only reason he's at TOSU is because he went to St Vincent St Mary lol


imagine if he had actual coaching....top 15 pick easy. I think he's slated second round as of right now

>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Jaden Ivy is a better player right now

Branham's the better shooter, but Ivey's the better athlete, the better creator, and I think Ivey's versatility between playing on ball and off ball is really valuable at the next level. Branham's a better defender today, but I think Ivey's got really good defensive potential as well (hard for him to be a consistently effective defender in that Purdue roster tbh).

It's also easy for me to say "Jaden Ivey's a Top 3-4 pick, even potentially #2, and I'm not sold that Branham's definitely a Top 4 pick next year"... because I don't think Branham'll be back next year. lol. I'd imagine he'll see that he can go in that 20-25 range this season on the potential, and he'll take off. But we'll see, anything can happen in the NIL era, obviously.

Helps that Purdue got completely jobbed by refs down the stretch, calling two consecutive Sparty hook-and-holds as fouls... on Purdue.

But yeah, Purdue's defense sucks. They gotta figure that shit out, or second weekend may not happen.

>Helps that Purdue got completely jobbed by refs down the
>stretch, calling two consecutive Sparty hook-and-holds as
>fouls... on Purdue.
>
>But yeah, Purdue's defense sucks. They gotta figure that shit
>out, or second weekend may not happen.

Say it ain’t so.

>Say it ain’t so.


joking obviously, but his frailty scares me from wanting him on the Pistons

15-0 with wins over Arizona, Kentucky and Auburn

a much different team offensively on the road, however

....since firing Rick Barnes

him and the Rat in Auburn have had quite the career turn arounds

he's already got them a SEC title and Final Four, you know they don't give a fuck how

how tf you lose to this bum ass team w a 5'8 pg from rhode island ad an interim coach

Chris Holtmann experience = 1 or 2 nice wins every year, lose inexplicable games, finish w around 10 - 12 losses, finish middle of the pack in the conference and will very rarely get past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament



>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Naw.. we some shit. Played their best game feeding off of the energy from the 02 national championship team being in the building.

Gary Williams was better at Ohio State than the bum we have now

I know exactly how this season is gonna end for us, good game. Fear the turtle indeed.

>Naw.. we some shit. Played their best game feeding off of the
>energy from the 02 national championship team being in the
>building.
>

I hope Chris Holtmann falls down the stairs and tears both ACLs

He might be the worst coach in TOSU history


Frank, you were wrong about this guy. I tried to tell you lol.

Actual fans of the team who watch them night in and night out, know what they're talking about, something to keep in mind

Knew your post was coming before I even saw the final score.

I'd be interested in seeing a breakdown of the on/off numbers of the Liddell era. Obviously having no Key or Young played a huuuuge role in this ridiculously bad loss, lol... but I kind of wonder what the splits are for the various roster pieces over the last couple years.

Not a single one of them will play anywhere after college except on their driveway

forget Europe or Israel


>Knew your post was coming before I even saw the final score.
>
>I'd be interested in seeing a breakdown of the on/off numbers
>of the Liddell era. Obviously having no Key or Young played a
>huuuuge role in this ridiculously bad loss, lol... but I kind
>of wonder what the splits are for the various roster pieces
>over the last couple years.

Smh

im not looking forward to the whistle duke is about to get in the tourney to try and help K go out w/ the title

The final game you will ever coach at Cameron and we dogwalked you.

>The final game you will ever coach at Cameron and we
>dogwalked you.

probably a top five rivalry win in college basketball history

Like, they just made everything so awkwardly painful that you just…laugh. I couldn’t look away.

>Like, they just made everything so awkwardly painful that you
>just…laugh. I couldn’t look away.

>Like, they just made everything so awkwardly painful that you
>just…laugh. I couldn’t look away.

Imagine camping out for weeks to get that ticket 🎟 only to lose lol



>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

When he came out and immediately started saying how “unacceptable” the loss was and telling the crowd to be quiet. Lololololol. Keep that in the locker room you pretentious prick.

Him and the whole crowd going NUTS over an obvious flop not being called a charge was the best part of the game. He was a scrub at Army, so he made the “charge” his thing, and their flopping ruined the sport the last 20 years.

Mainly for Shane Battier (and the teachers at our school hated him bc they had to rearrange schedules to accommodate the basketball program)

I was friends w his younger brother (3 years older than me, he was my NHS mentor lol) …he died of a heroin overdose 7 years ago RIP JJ

Edit C webb also would have been a dukie if his grandfather wasn’t ill at the time , that’s why he stayed home

>When he came out and immediately started saying how
>“unacceptable” the loss was and telling the crowd to be
>quiet. Lololololol. Keep that in the locker room you
>pretentious prick.
>
>Him and the whole crowd going NUTS over an obvious flop not
>being called a charge was the best part of the game. He was
>a scrub at Army, so he made the “charge” his thing, and
>their flopping ruined the sport the last 20 years.

I dogged the hire. I still don't love it. But this team has improved throughout the season both in ability and focus, even as depth has whittled away through injury.

Regardless of what happens in the tournament (unless we lose to one of those whodafuck teams), a job well done.

The same fans ready to can him this summer are anointing him now, lol. Granted, it was a huge, huge win. They capitalized on Duke’s obvious assumption that they’d win and kicked Duke in the teeth in the second half (RJ Davis especially, what an impressive game from him).

But I find all the swings wild. The early season presumptuous “he sucks” swings. Now the post-Duke win “he’s the truth” swing. If he loses a bad game round 1, ready for it to swing back. Nobody ever wants to let a new coach have a few years of larger sample size anymore, lol. (For what it’s worth, I think he’s clearly a smart basketball mind. Whether it works out on such a huge platform, we’ve yet to see, but I definitely don’t think there was anything resembling a massive red flag this year.)

the way they talk about this team in NC on sports radio.

for all Roy accomplished we still never really let up on him. so we definitely weren't going to give Hubert a break.

Roy just had enough in the bank to where he could tell us where to stick it regularly lol

Illinois is painful to watch. Carbelo does too much flashy stuff,
and Cockburn is an out of date Center ...has zero skillset.

Might be another 2nd round exit.

They play Iowa tonight....

as last year.

And the fact that they won a share of the big ten title, let’s you know
how weak the big ten is this year, especially compared to last year.

Illinois’ offense is give it to Cockburn, which is so easy to defend. I’m not
expecting them to go far at all.

I’ll be happy if they get out of the second round.

Last year’s team should of went all the way . There were hands down the best
in the big ten...

This year? Win against a top team, and then go and lose to penn state or
some weak team.

Underwood very clearly has the program in a really nice place, between last year's 1 seed and this year's Big Ten regular season title. I was very big on Underwood coming in (some people on this board were not), and I think everything he's doing is on the money.

And I think there's a very real chance this team is a Sweet 16/Elite Eight team, depending on the matchup. Outside of the game at Purdue, they've been either won or come very close to winning every Quad 1-A game they've played-- and a few of those games were not at full roster strength.

I'm excited to continue to see what Underwood keeps doing going forward.

college basketball every day, I haven't seen him since Saturday night lol

And he was on Dan Patrick earlier today.

Always funny when people lump Bilas in with the pro-Duke brigade when Duke fans as a collective HATE Bilas, lol.

Season on the line and you lose to fucking *BC*? Someone take their dancing shoes away, they don't deserve them.

Paul Scruggs fouling up 2 with 5 seconds left is gonna haunt him forever.

hard to imagine a worse final 40 seconds by a single player when you're up by four

- Scruggs missed free throw
- Scruggs missed free throw
- Scruggs foul (Butler makes both free throws)
- Scruggs turnover (Butler layup)
- Scruggs layup
- Scruggs missed free throw
- Scruggs foul (fouled out, Butler makes both tying free throws)

was dude gambling on this game

we better not fuck up this chance. We need to win a game or 2 in the A10 tourney now…

but why not win it all?

and that flagrant foul was an absolute joke.

Today just underscored how awful of a job Boeheim did the last two years. Solely because his son had to play 38 minutes a game at the 2 guard. So Girard had to play out of position at PG, while the best PG on the team came off the bench. Symir Torrence made such an impact today, finally getting the chance to run the team as the starting PG. He should’ve been starting PG since Christmas time.

Now that Buddy is gone, Girard can move to the two and we can play a real PG again after two wasted seasons.

Man had zero objectivity with his kids. He’s gotta retire.

he retired right after his son graduated

and the team played much better when he was hurt.. lol.

should be a rule against coaching your kid in college.

>he retired right after his son graduated
>
>and the team played much better when he was hurt.. lol.
>
>should be a rule against coaching your kid in college.
>

Yup. Boeheim had such a blind spot for his kid. And Buddy is a good player, but I’m actually thrilled he’s gone. Hoping Boeheim retires, but if he doesn’t I fully expect him to do a way better job next year than he did this year because that objectivity blind spot is gone.

they cant compete with the BE at Madison Square regardless of how much better the teams in the ACC are..

Big East always puts on a show at MSG

ACC should be in Atlanta or Charlotte.

>they cant compete with the BE at Madison Square regardless of
>how much better the teams in the ACC are..
>
>Big East always puts on a show at MSG
>
>ACC should be in Atlanta or Charlotte.

I’d throw DC into the mix.

But yeah, Barclays just isn’t the Garden.

As much as they have tried to force it, nothing outside of NC matters in ACC basketball.
Bring it home for good

Really only Greensboro but Charlotte will at least give them a bigger market. But they don’t care about ACC ball down there either really.

they dont even look like a D1 team. my god

OSU’s season is ending in a complete nosedive.

>OSU’s season is ending in a complete nosedive.

I wanted them to nosedive the whole season tbh but wins against Duke, Purdue , michigan , msu kept giving me a glimmer of hope

Lol how bad was the loss? I saw the score but was it close ? Or is it misleading

I do like Penn State’s new coach, and I know OSU’s been beat up with injuries lately, but there’s just no excuse to give up that game in that spot.

Now lost 4 of their last 5, including a couple of ugly ones. Gonna be a 6/7 seed, and I’m pretty likely to pick them to get upset. They’re just really limping across the finish line.

Last time we won a title, JFK beat Nixon, campus was segregated and the hottest song on the charts was "the Twist" by Chubby Checker

:(

This Illinois team is so trash, and you think they have the potential
to make the elite 8?

Dude, please.

Can’t even beat weak ass Indiana to start off the big ten tourney

This team is dumb. I ain’t watching these dudes no more.

Ayo was really the difference.

Enjoy the tourney, guys

I was hoping he'd get another year. But they started out the season very poorly (they lost by 21 to Liberty).

Even though the team pulled it together and was competitive in a lot of their games (they lost by 1 to Auburn), they just lost too much.

I think Cuonzo was good for the program because 1. After Kim Anderson, anyone who won more than 10 games seemed like a revelation. 2. He had a lot of integrity and seemed honorable. Something that I don't think enough schools can say about their coach. Even though Kim pulled the program back from the damage Keith Haith caused, Cuonzo was able to get the program touching the type of success it once had.

And it was cool to have a Black coach in Missouri of all places.

But he didn't win enough. It's possible to say that his teams lacked talent relative to their competition. And it's also possible to say the school didn't invest in their program.

But it's a results-based business and that lack of success led to his removal.

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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33479585/missouri-tigers-fire-coach-cuonzo-martin-five-seasons

Jeff Borzello
ESPN Staff Writer

Missouri fired head men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin after five seasons, the school announced on Friday.

Martin took over the Tigers in 2017 after three seasons at California, with Missouri hiring him to replace Kim Anderson. The Tigers reached the NCAA tournament in Martin's first season and then went to the tournament again in 2021, but they failed to advance out of the first round in each.

This season, Missouri went 12-21 overall and 5-13 in SEC play. The Tigers' season ended Thursday with a 76-68 loss to LSU in the SEC tournament. Missouri lost seven of its last nine games to end the season.

In five seasons, Martin went 78-77 overall.

Prior to taking over at Missouri, Martin spent three seasons at California, three seasons at Tennessee and three seasons at Missouri State. He went to a Sweet 16 with Tennessee in 2014 and made an NCAA tournament appearance with California in 2016. Martin also spent eight seasons as an assistant coach at Purdue.

The Tigers now have their fourth men's basketball head-coaching search since 2011. Frank Haith and Anderson each lasted just three seasons, while Martin was in Columbia for five. Potential candidates expected to be involved, sources told ESPN, include Murray State's Matt McMahon, Baylor assistant Jerome Tang, North Texas' Grant McCasland and San Francisco's Todd Golden.

The school hired Fogler Consulting to aid with the search.

He's a good guy to bring your school back from the brink, but his ceiling was always going to be low. Really excited to see who they hire.

SMH. Fucking up the rubber match. Disappointing.

Duke has shit the bed against less talented, well coached bubble teams literally all year. I smashed that moneyline and the VT 1H line too. Mike Young is the real deal.

But me thinking K is shitting the bed with this roster doesn’t mean I didn’t also enjoy UNC shitting the same bed. lol.

2 out of 3, let's get a first SEC tournament title in 40 years

is going great.

What in the world is Georgia thinking???? lol

first of my lifetime -- so this season is a success

could definitely argued that Tennessee should have been a 2 seed, but it seems like they were the highest 3

smh

are my final 4.

I got Arizona winning it all.

Arizona will have to go through Villanova to get there.....


I got Purdue and Wisconsin going deep into the tourney for the big ten..up to the
elite 8, then it’s bye bye for all big ten teams.

Fock Duke.

>Duke and Kentucky play today. And then there are some other
>games, I guess. Both teams return some key pieces and bring in
>a lot of new. Really no clue what to expect from either side.
>Should be revealing as to how ready both squads are. I expect
>a great game.

Idk maybe they have someone else in mind

What do you know about Loyola ? Are we doomed ?

They're just so smart with how they play. They never beat themselves. If they're missing 3s that day, you can survive... but they *are* a top 20 jump shooting team in the country, lol.