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2748623, 2021-22 NBA Season: Week 1
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 12:56 PM
Lakers have the oldest roster in NBA history.

Gotta bring in the Count from Sesame Street.

how many old Motherfockers do the lakers have?

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6!

6 OLD MFs, the lakers have!

HA HA HA HA!
2748631, Let me guess. You don’t like the Lakers
Posted by Beezo, Tue Oct-19-21 01:55 PM
2748635, Judging by his sig it's one of the only teams he doesn't like
Posted by Oak27, Tue Oct-19-21 02:02 PM
2748643, You need to get that hate out your life.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 02:12 PM
2748664, Imagine starting the post in the way you did AND saying this.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 03:10 PM
Shameful, really.
2748644, He is in a polyamorous relationship with several teams
Posted by calij81, Tue Oct-19-21 02:15 PM
2748645, Teams from different sports.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 02:17 PM
and only two sports where I support two different teams,
but those second teams are on some casual fan shit.

Chelsea, true and blue, same with the white sox.

2748661, So...yes?
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 03:06 PM
2748636, Giannis, new and improved with the J
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 02:03 PM
2748639, Steph with J Poole (Klay Lite)
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 02:06 PM
Dubs gonna be scary at the end of the year even if Klay doesn't make it back.
2748646, I like that Poole kid.
Posted by Beezo, Tue Oct-19-21 02:20 PM
2748678, best player in the league.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 04:30 PM
steph is good too.
2748640, I believe in Bron...I do not believe in Anthony Davis....staying healthy.
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 02:06 PM
2748655, Lakers will be a Top 3 seed in the West.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 02:53 PM
Open offer to anyone reading this:

Anyone who has conviction in believing the Lakers won't be a Top 3 seed in the West can bet me. Doesn't have to be money either, since some on here don't like betting money with people on here, I'm fine with that-- it can be a flair bet, sig bet, whatever you'd like.

If anyone on here would like to just talk shit about the Lakers, regardless of the reality of how good they'll be, I get that, 100%. But if anyone *actually* earnestly thinks they won't be Top 3 seed in the West good? I'm here.
2748656, This will not end well for you.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 03:02 PM
Abort.

You have a roster full of streaky, low IQ players, and several injury prone players.
Father Time never loses.

The odds are HIGHLY staked against you. You better off throwing
your little dollars at crypto or NFT.


Frankie, don’t do this to yourself, especially with that seasonal Duke L also
around the corner.

2748658, Don't fall for the banana in the tailpipe.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 03:03 PM
2748659, Sup
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 03:05 PM
Stay away from the TV tonight.

Mad scary shit going to happen to the lakers.
2748660, My offer still stands.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 03:06 PM
If you have conviction in your belief, make a flair bet. Or signature bet. Really simple, costs you no money.

> low IQ players
>The odds are HIGHLY staked against you.

Odds are stacked against someone, not staked against someone.
2748681, I'm in.
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 05:01 PM
$25 they aren't.
2748687, You're on.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 05:31 PM
2748701, RE: You're on.
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 07:27 PM
their season is going to be so weird. I feel that if they are healthy at the end of the season, which is obviously going to be the plan, they can make a run...but in order to get there, I think they will have to concede games at times...but what you have going for you is the Clips are quietly a mess without Kawhi. But that leaves the Dubs and the Suns and I say they aren't going to finish in front of both of them...which is what they need if they are going to be a top 3 seed. But as they say, the games must be played.....
2748755, Put it this way.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 11:57 PM
I think the Jazz, Suns, Lakers, and Warriors are the teams most likely to top 50 games won this year. And I have *some* questions about the Suns in terms of regression (last year, they were essentially perfect in terms of play and lack of injuries, especially down the stretch) and this Ayton situation... and I have *some* questions about the Warriors in terms of the Klay re-introduction and the center position play against certain teams. (Though the Bjelica signing obviously looked brilliant tonight, lol.)

So I like the odds of the Lakers making Top 3. People shit on Westbrook, and I think it's fair to question how he fits in terms of the playoffs... but until last year, he hadn't been on a sub-.500 team since he was a rookie. And that includes a number of teams where he was the man. I think even if Bron or Davis misses time due to age or injury, Westbrook is a guy who can drag your team to wins. Shit, even last year, he was the main addition to the Wiz, and they won nine more games than the year prior. Even if his style isn't always conducive to playoff success, in the regular season? There's a reason he's been MVP.
2748712, Shit. I have a hard time not seeing them as #1
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-19-21 09:04 PM
2748768, I still think the Jazz will finish #1.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 12:19 AM
They're just a perfectly constructed regular season team. They could win 55-60 games without breaking a sweat, because Mitchell is a fucking bamma, Gobert is the best defensive center since Ben Wallace, and the roster and scheme are perfectly built around those pieces. They'll once again have issues in the playoffs due to their reliance on drop coverage... but they'll win a fuckton regular season.

After that... I think the Lakers, Suns, and Warriors (assuming health) are pretty clearly the next three in some order. And I think Westbrook makes this a 50+ win team, which makes them a good bet for a top 3 seed imo.
2748657, Starting with the hate in your heart instead of your revamped team.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 03:02 PM
Anyway - speaking of old, how are you and your banners doing?
2748662, You’re right we don’t have any Walt Disney banners.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 03:07 PM
not nan One!
2748663, Oh ok.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 03:10 PM
Guess I'll look at the other 5 we've gotten since the Bulls got their last one then.
2748665, Here are my over/under win total bets this year:
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 03:12 PM
Milwaukee OVER 54.5
Miami UNDER 48.5
Dallas UNDER 48.5
Atlanta OVER 46.5 (2 units)
Pelicans UNDER 38.5
Raptors OVER 35.5
Timberwolves UNDER 35.5
Cavaliers UNDER 27.5
Rockets UNDER 27.5 (2 units)
Thunder UNDER 23.5

Thought I'd post for posterity. And in case the people who watch basketball here wanted to chat about actual basketball a bit.
2748666, That Dallas one is tough.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 03:16 PM
Prob agree across the board but 49 wins is definitely possible for them.
2748671, It's definitely possible.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 03:57 PM
But I didn't like what I saw from the playcalling preseason, I'm not convinced the coaching change is a net positive in the first year, and I don't think they improved their roster the way many other teams in the West did.

Scary to bet against Luka... but they're basically one Porzingis stumble from the play-in, imo.

My scariest one is the Raptors. I'm basically just betting that last year was a fluke caused by playing away from home all year and the wild injuries they faced. Still don't think Siakam can be the #1 option on a genuine playoff series winner... but I think he's good enough to be the #1 option on a .500 team in the East regular season. We'll see.
2748677, Miami is a tough call IMO
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-19-21 04:21 PM
With a healthy Lowry playing at a high level, I could see them winning 50+.

If he misses a lot of games or starts to be semi-washed, then under would seem a pretty safe bet.
2748684, Miami has this tendency to coast for stretches.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 05:15 PM
So while I'd happily bet on them winning a playoff series, I also feel pretty good about them finishing under 50 wins. Lowry would have to really be on one all season long to drag them there. Because Butler's gonna miss his customary 20-25 games.

Like, they were on pace for 45 wins in an 82 game season last year. The question here is... do I think Lowry and Markieff Morris are 4 *regular season* games better than Goran Dragic, Kendrick Nunn, Trevor Ariza, and Precious Achiuwa? Playoff games, I'd def rather have Lowry and Morris... but I'm not convinced those two in and the other four out make the Heat four full regular season wins better than they were last year.

Especially since the majority of the teams in the East got better imo. Of the bottom nine teams in the East last year, the Wizards are the only team I look at and think they definitely won't be better. The bottom five of the West should easily be worse than the bottom five of the East imo.

Bam and Herro will improve... but I suspect they'll do what they did last year again, where they look bad at times, especially early, while they settle for jumpers and figure out some of their rhythms, and then they'll kick it into high gear in order to avoid the play-in.
2748713, I disagree HARD with Miami Dallas and Pels!
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-19-21 09:07 PM
2748828, Miami and Dallas are the toughest ones. Pels... I feel good about, lol.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 07:32 PM
A malcontent Zion and a mismatched roster? No brainer under imo. It'd take the young guys making serious leaps to hit the over.
2748674, Phoenix got better. expecting a Pacific Division title
Posted by HecticHavoc, Tue Oct-19-21 04:02 PM
remains to be seen how Ayton handles this contract adversity. but Book and Bridges gained playoff experience and got better in the off-season. if CP3's body holds up, Phoenix replicates last regular-seasons dominance.
2748680, I’ll take the Bucks -1.5.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 04:53 PM
They should be able to control the middle, plus its ring/banner night.


Russell Westbrook OVER 3 turnovers. Book it.
2748682, the jordan poole era begins tonight.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 05:04 PM
shits about to get spooky for the rest of the association.
2748683, Excited for my Knicks. No predictions.
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 05:04 PM
I just hope that Thibs gives Jerico Sims some minutes before Nerlens and Mitch are fully healthy.

Quentin Grimes is going to show out, and eventually, Miles McBride too.

D. Rose is in midseason form, and I hope Kemba is able to recover fully.

Mr. Big Shot Juls is on his way to another All NBA year.


THIBS. Use the minutes wisely. Repeat, use the minutes wisely.
2748690, I do think the Bucks are being wildly underrated.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 06:15 PM
Like sure they're on top of the NBA.com power rankings, etc.

But Giannis is on a legit trajectory for a top 10 all time career right now, and in his prime, AND now with all the confidence of getting over the hump?

Yes, sure - they benefitted as all other title teams do from circumstances beyond their control...but I could easily see them running over the Nets.
2748691, i need see them beat a healthy Harden/KD when it matters
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Oct-19-21 06:31 PM
rn they are 3rd favorites to me behind us and Brooklyn
2748692, They also got better from last year, too.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 06:46 PM
Way better bench. Like... miles better.
2748693, mans shooting and hitting that j with confidence now. lord help us.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 06:48 PM
2748694, then go down on the other end and deny a nigga like a home loan.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 06:49 PM
2748695, fuck it giannis is the best player in the league.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 06:51 PM
i dont even care about stats or reality.

i just like him better as a person than bron, kd, etc. dude aint about no stupid shit. just straight hoopin.
2748707, RE: then go down on the other end and deny a nigga like a home loan.
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-19-21 08:23 PM
lmao.. I’m stealing this
2748696, Bucks -1.5. No joke!
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 07:03 PM
Nwora is a beast out of Louisville.

They eating!
2748699, Jesus. Giannis is just bodying the entire Nets lineup every time.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 07:13 PM
2748700, Softridge is back!
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Oct-19-21 07:23 PM
2748702, Straight insubordination…
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Oct-19-21 07:43 PM
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1450506494127054854?s=20
2748705, One of the players should have told him to get the hell out.
Posted by Beezo, Tue Oct-19-21 08:14 PM
2748710, I want to fight him already and I’m not on the team
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-19-21 08:38 PM
What a HOE. Fuck that guy.
2748703, So, Bagley is done in SAC, right?
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Oct-19-21 07:50 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1450584705665953792?s=20
2748766, Should've been done last year.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 12:16 AM
Relationship has soured over the last year or two. But yeah, it's toast now. They gotta just deal him.
2748704, KD let Giannis get all his rah rah energy out, now slowly taking over.
Posted by Castro, Tue Oct-19-21 07:55 PM
2748706, patty mills might be one of the most important pickups of the year.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 08:23 PM
(with kyrie out).
2748722, For sure.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 10:43 PM
He's obviously still got plenty left.

Imagine if this team had Kyrie!
2748709, Motherfockers going to be begging for Kyrie to come back
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 08:31 PM
tomorrow.

They ain’t got nothing else on that squad, Mills is just having
a good night. Harden and Durant going to be burned out by
the midseason. Lots of age and wear on those tires....

No way in hell is Brooklyn winning anything.

Bucks repeating. Too focking deep...they get Divencenzo back
in a few months!

And Nwora???

Shitttt
2748714, KD and Harden going to vaccinate him in his sleep
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Oct-19-21 09:11 PM
2748715, Lol
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 09:44 PM
2748792, That wouldn’t change anything . He doesn’t like to play basketball
Posted by guru0509, Wed Oct-20-21 11:01 AM
>
2748711, nash packed it in kinda early.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 08:49 PM
2748716, Kerr - “run back on defense and take care of the ball”
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-19-21 10:01 PM
Jeez, they really don’t say shit in the huddles at that level do they?
2748718, why is this team still dealing with turnover issues year in year out?
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 10:03 PM
its pretty much a franchise signature at this point. thats kerrs fault.
2748719, curry just gift wrapping passes to the other team at this point.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 10:05 PM
on the break no less.
2748762, steph got some funball in him. yeah. still, tho.
Posted by poetx, Wed Oct-20-21 12:11 AM

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748717, jordan poole still a role player lol.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 10:02 PM
nigga gonna do 80% of his damage in front of a home crowd then disappear on the road.

this roster still ass without klay.
2748815, i assume you posted this before the 4th quarter?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Oct-20-21 04:48 PM
2748720, Russ is really struggling out there
Posted by Vex_id, Tue Oct-19-21 10:24 PM
He's over-thinking on every play. It's gonna take a while before this Laker team gels. Really want to see them whole (with Nunn, THT, Ellington & Ariza) -- but the depth is clearly better this year.

'Melo's going to be a key piece for this squad - especially in the playoffs.

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2748721, Yeah - he doesn't look great.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 10:39 PM
But early season Russ is who he is.

This team is weird. Not sure how they all fit together without the full team - and even then. But yeah they're lucky as shit in this game right now as the W's are missing wide open looks and bunnies.

Of course it's nice to see Bron and AD doing what they do but my goodness Frank NEVER run Russ and Rondo together again
2748731, he started off slow the last couple of years in DC and Houston but...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Oct-19-21 11:07 PM
figured it out in the 2nd half of the season and came on strong and I expect him to do the same here
2748765, Patience isn't allowed in a Game 1 NBA post.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 12:15 AM
Clearly you're supposed to overreact and call the Lakers bums. It's the rule.
2748723, that DJ-Russ-Baze-LeBron-AD fast-break tho?
Posted by Vex_id, Tue Oct-19-21 10:44 PM
Magic Bronson. Special.

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2748725, That was fun.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 10:46 PM
2748728, Yes!
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Oct-19-21 11:04 PM
2748724, AD should have won DPOY in 2020.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 10:45 PM
He's out there acting like it this game too.
2748726, He finally looks healthy.
Posted by Vex_id, Tue Oct-19-21 10:56 PM
Lakers need to keep it that way.

But when you get this two-way level of effort from AD - he's an absolute difference maker.

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2748727, 2 bums ass teams turning the ball over
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 11:02 PM
And westbrick.

Shot a three and that shit built a house!


Lol
2748730, But I was told it was gonna be scary? And to keep the TV off?
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:06 PM
2748754, Wait you “lol”’d yourself after a brick/ house joke? Yikes
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:56 PM
2748729, It's really nice to have the NBA back.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:05 PM
I feel the same way every year.

The offseason has become more and more entertaining and soap opera like but it's never the same as having the TV on, my laptop open, sitting on my couch, and typing a bunch of nonsense on this board with those of you who are still here.

It's only gone like what....4 months or whatever but it's just nice to have it back.
2748741, March 2020 - July 2020 was a living hell
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-19-21 11:19 PM
I need to have a game on. Period.
2748733, westbrook looks *horrible*.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 11:09 PM
2748734, For sure.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:10 PM
But he looked absolutely terrible to start in Houston and Washington - I'm giving him time.
2748736, i dont get it.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 11:15 PM
i get the bad shooting. hes been struggling with that for a while.

but dude doesnt even know how to put together a drive to the basket.
2748737, I mean, this team's make up is weird.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:16 PM
He's used to such a different role everywhere - I absolutely understand it's gonna be weird and bad for a minute.

I won't freak out about it in game 1.
2748735, Whewww...falling apart.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:14 PM
Lot of time but my goodness Frank's gotta fix this offense.
2748772, Vogel was awful tonight. Kidd will be missed.
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Oct-20-21 12:39 AM

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2748738, lakers really about to lose to some police athletic league stars.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 11:16 PM
2748740, You know who'd be nice to have? Caruso.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:19 PM
2748742, Guard defense is a concern
Posted by DJR, Tue Oct-19-21 11:20 PM
2748743, Guess that's why we got AB. But uhhhhh
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:22 PM
2748758, Yupppp. Tried to tell people, his on-ball defense was genuinely elite.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 11:58 PM
2748771, Lakers really were only able to re-sign either THT or Caruso
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Oct-20-21 12:36 AM
I get why they went with THT - but Caruso is a significant loss. He meshed with Bron exceptionally well and consistently made momentum-shifting plays; elite perimeter defense. Chicago got a real one.

THT got a lot to live up to - but I do think his ceiling is higher than Caruso's.

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2748744, Milwaukee is easily the best team to play today.
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-19-21 11:32 PM
Maybe part of it was due to adrenaline / emotions bc of the ring ceremony, but they looked the most cohesive and Giannis just looked so comfortable and in command.

They say after a player gets their first ring they get better bc theyre more confident and start trying and unlocking new facets of their game and you can see it with the Greek Freak..he's going to go down top 10 all time when he's finished, easily.
2748748, bucks have a lot more continuity than the other teams too.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 11:43 PM
the same cast, everybody knows their exact roles from last season, etc.

they already know theyre a championship caliber team and have continued to work like it.
2748745, bjelica got a nice lil game to him.
Posted by Reeq, Tue Oct-19-21 11:32 PM
2748749, Have to keep telling myself that’s not David Lee out there
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Oct-19-21 11:46 PM
But he’s an amazing fit for this squad. Plays the draymond role for us offensively
2748746, This makes sense given the shooting in the first half.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:32 PM
Frank’s got a lot of work to do.
2748747, Reggies flubs are always funny.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:38 PM
On Curry “He’s just not a scorer.”

I think you meant he’s not JUST a scorer.

No pun intended.
2748750, BWHAHAHAHAHA!!
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 11:46 PM
2748752, Take the bet, pussy.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:54 PM
2748756, Damn. You really Mad, son.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 11:57 PM
2748773, Nah. But you did lie.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 12:50 AM
2748751, Golden State got a squad.
Posted by allStah, Tue Oct-19-21 11:54 PM
I told y’all last year. Those youngins are going to be seasoned!

They just need to stop with those senseless TOs. They would
have blown the lakers off the floor had they taken care of the ball.

And when Wiseman and Thompson come back.

Laker top 3 in the west? GTFOH.

Nuggets
Jazz
Clippers
Suns
GS

And then everybody else.
2748753, Nah you said they were a bum ass turnover team. Take the bet.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Oct-19-21 11:55 PM
2748757, He really thinks they're gonna be 6th seed or lower. Amazing.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Oct-19-21 11:58 PM
2748761, Where did they finish last season?
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 12:06 AM
And this year’s team is all over the place.

Frankie, take a day off with this one. Team is bum as hell.
2748764, The irony of you saying "take a day off" talking about the Lakers...
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 12:14 AM
... is lost on zero people on this board.

Well, except for the one, of course.
2748759, I meant just the lakers ....meant to say bum ass team
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 12:00 AM
Singular.

I would just skip the season if I were you.


2748760, Guess you hit the number 2 by mistake too.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 12:03 AM
www.southwest.com
2748763, The Warriors are always capable of putting on a passing clinic.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 12:12 AM
And they did so tonight. The Lakers looked lost on some of their rotations-- not a surprise that the only two players returning to the Lakers were the only ones who looked comfortable Game 1-- and if any team is designed to pick that apart, it's the Warriors. I actually thought the Lakers' on-ball defense was largely good-- they forced turnovers, got Curry off his shooting rhythm a bit-- but Curry and Green are both players that can still hurt you in so many ways without making shots.

And if Poole, Bjelica, and Iguodala combine for 18-32 and 7-17 from 3 every game... then yeah, everyone's gonna look bad against them, lol. I expect that to regress some, obviously, but it's a major credit to the Dub's passing game that they were able to so consistently get good looks on the extra pass or on the post-PnR kicks for their supporting players.

The Lakers will obviously be fine once all the new pieces find their rhythm, figure out their rotations, and get more comfortable. I do think their overall team defense will take a hit til Ariza and THT get back-- guys like Carmelo and Malik Monk really just won't ever be net positive defenders. I'd honestly give Austin Reaves more spin early in the season, he's not going to be the best wing defender, but he'd hustle his balls off.
2748767, well that was fun. dubs ain't make me waste my beer like the iggles do.
Posted by poetx, Wed Oct-20-21 12:17 AM
so there's that.

wiggins was quiet, mostly, but hit a couple big threes when needed.

bjelly is that dude. love his playmaking. that was cool when him and dray were in at the same time.

jorn poole continued balling out. only had, maybe 2 'youthful exhuberances' (he was 50/50 between them and good plays last year, so this is major progress).

he gonna be making noise in his own right.

JTA got abused twice by davis but fought and played well. knocked down some open 3s.

steph was off, but still impacted the game. his gravity is not wasted this year. he's pulling 2 players and he has multiple shooters AND passers around him. that equals dunks.

and wait till he and dray have wiseman and kuminga to lob to.

moody played well. kerr was like, naw, as far as putting him in in crunch time, but he did well in that short stint in the 2nd.

porter was quiet. hopefully he'll have a lot more games like preseason when he comes in and heats it up.

if he and steph were knocking down shots tonight, it would have been a 20+ point game.

iggy looked REAL good. if he can consistently knock down wide open threes... that's gonna be tough. also, he still got them southphillyhands (c) dr claw on defense.

i remain hyped for this season.

oh. s/o to damian lee. he just goes about his business and does shit that needs to be done.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748769, The Green-Bjelica two-big lineup has... an insanely high ceiling.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 12:22 AM
Because they're two of the best passing bigs in the league (with Green being one of the best passing bigs in the history of the game, obviously). If both are out there hitting movers and cutters that effectively... goddamn, it's gonna be pretty to watch (as it was tonight).
2748795, that is a sick combination.
Posted by poetx, Wed Oct-20-21 12:21 PM
>Because they're two of the best passing bigs in the league
>(with Green being one of the best passing bigs in the history
>of the game, obviously). If both are out there hitting movers
>and cutters that effectively... goddamn, it's gonna be pretty
>to watch (as it was tonight).

it really was. bjeli had that drive where he got ran off the 3pt line, drove, faked the pass to damion lee in the post, and then, in the air, kicked it out to wiggins(?) in the corner and i think porter did a pin-down screen and they hit the 3???

that was so pretty. once they are surrounded w/ shooters, that is gonna be a problem. the pick and pop game w/ him and steph or poole should be filthy.




peace & blessings,

x.

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focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748770, Damn it's good to have the NBA back
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Oct-20-21 12:30 AM
w/ fans in stands like it's 2019. Buzz is back in the arenas.

Giannis got the Juice now. Feels like he's shifting into another gear this year w/ his game. Disrespectful to not have the Bucks rated at top of the mountain. Mills was a huge pickup for Brooklyn - especially with Kryie out.

GS did a great job of rebuilding their complementary roster. This dude Bjelica was eating the Laker frontcourt up in the 2nd half at will. When Klay & Wiseman come back GS will be right in the elite mix in the West. Dangerous squad.

Lakers chemistry project will have to gel on the fly - and it'll clearly take time - especially when you have 4 key rotational guys already out due to injuries. Bron & AD boss'd out tonight though - and if they can play like that consistently? They'll be more than alright.

Gotta give Russ his time & space to figure it out - because that was one of the worst games I've ever seen him play tonight. He hasn't really played in the pressure cooker in a *long* ass time. This isn't a situation where he's not expected to do anything (like many years in OKC and certainly on Washington) - it's bright lights every night and high expectations. Will take a while for him to adjust.
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2748774, Lakers were -23 with Russell Westbrook on the floor
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 12:56 AM
and -10 with Monk on the floor. Neither player can guard a lamp post,
and Westbrick had over 3 TOs as predicted.

No other player on the court for either team had negative double digit +/-
numbers.

Warriors were +20 with Bjelica on the floor.

Also, Lebron and AD were the only lakers to score in double digits, and they
combined for close to 50 FG attempts, around 25 shots a piece. There are no other
offensively skilled players on that team.








2748775, Why’d you lie?
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 12:58 AM
2748776, What did I lie about?
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 01:01 AM
2748777, Post 66 and 96.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 01:07 AM
It’s a really dumb lie, too.

Not sure why you did it but you did.

www.southwest.com
2748778, Man, you know what I meant.
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 01:10 AM
Bottom line, Lakers bum as hell.

Don’t try to change the subject, Ryan.




2748779, Still doing it? That’s weird.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 01:16 AM
2748791, Did you take the bet or what??
Posted by Stadiq, Wed Oct-20-21 11:00 AM

I don’t even care like that- but you can’t keep doing
this and not take the bet.

It would be a worse look than losing the bet.


Dude gave you several options too.


If you’re this confident, take the bet.
2748800, This isn’t the 1990s. Street betting is dead.
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 02:18 PM
I took Bucks -1.5 last night. Cashed out as soon as the game was over.

Gambling is commercial now, and a bet can be made and paid quicker
than getting gas.



2748804, Ah yes the old "message board signature" street bet.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 03:12 PM
2748805, perhaps allStah is from the future
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Oct-20-21 03:25 PM
2748822, He doesn't want to take a signature bet.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 06:58 PM
For money, for free, it doesn't matter. He knows it's a losing bet.
2748860, Easy money is a 90s thing? WTF? C’mon man
Posted by Stadiq, Wed Oct-20-21 09:50 PM
You dodging him is a terrible look.

I don’t even pay attention like that, but you talking
mad shit/clowning people….then refusing to bet is
standing out like a sore thumb.

I could give a shit about the Lakers. But you ducking
dude is hard to watch man.

Either take the bet- any version- or pump the breaks
on the shit talking cuz you look silly.
2748780, Dame: “I’m not leaving Portland.”
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 01:41 AM
https://theathletic.com/2901000/2021/10/19/damian-lillard-says-im-not-leaving-portland-and-one-reason-why-is-chauncey-billups/?source=user_shared_article

That seems pretty definitive!

Luckily for Morey, the Wizards are going to suck. If Beal hasn’t signed an extension in the next two months, the Wiz will absolutely need to trade him. So seems like he’ll be the biggest obvious piece available for teams come January 2022. It’ll then come down to if the Wiz have any interest in Simmons or if they’d rather take on expiring deals and picks instead.
2748781, I'll likely be saying this often: I like this W's team A LOT
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Oct-20-21 01:45 AM
A mix of young athleticism and great passing ability mixed with improved shooting and higher basketball IQ. Poole really does have the potential to be a problem. Iggy looked like it was 2017. And Bjelica could make us really dangerous. We're going to be better than many people expect.

A lot I wass going to say has already been said. Especially continually thinking Bjelica was David Lee (probably aided by Damion Lee being on the floor at the same time).

Good and possibly promising start to the season. Hoping we can continue it at home against the Clips on Thursday.
2748782, When do we fry Steve Nash?
Posted by bentagain, Wed Oct-20-21 04:57 AM
Game 1...too early?
The majority of the offense is still Harden/KD isos
Still...NO DEFENSE
Lost Kyrie
I really feel like he literally does nothing

BKN/LAL was the consensus finals pick...again...I expect that to be abandoned by November.
2748784, He’s KDs shrink. He’s doing his job
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Oct-20-21 08:07 AM
2748785, Fry that man all day but cmon Kyrie isn’t his fault
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 08:20 AM
2748787, Rie’s birthday week last year happened
Posted by bentagain, Wed Oct-20-21 09:21 AM
No ramifications
Yes, Nash allowed that…and here we are.
2748788, Nash ain’t allow shit. He isn’t in charge
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Oct-20-21 09:53 AM
2748793, right, a black coach's seat would be on FIRE lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Oct-20-21 11:55 AM
2748796, ... for losing on the road to the reigning champions in Game 1?
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 01:05 PM
I thought their ball movement last year was pretty goddamn good. They averaged 27 assists per game last year. Yeah, the defense is bad, but they were the #1 offense in the NBA last year, and they took the eventual champions to 7 games with 1.5 of their 3 stars on the floor. If they win that last game, there's an exceedingly real chance they win the title even with broken Harden and no Kyrie.

Yeah, it devolved into iso last night, but it was largely because the Nets were having all sorts of trouble playing inside the 3-point line. They shot 38% from 2 last night-- and last season, they led the NBA in 2P%, shooting nearly 57% inside the arc. They also got smooshed on the glass, so all credit is due to Milwaukee's interior defense (aka mostly to Giannis, lol) for disrupting any semblance of Brooklyn penetration. So once Milwaukee loses its best on-ball perimeter defender in Jrue, I get why they just wanted to spread it out and let their stars go to work 1v1. It didn't work-- but Milwaukee was just at home and humming. I don't think this is a reason to panic.

So I think it's way premature to fry Nash. If Durant and Harden are both healthy, they should be favored to make it out of the East, even though the Bucks will obviously still give them a series. The Nets' concern should be that the Bucks' bench is way improved this year, so if they're deeper... it's even more important that the Nets get Kyrie back, because the margin for error in that series without Kyrie is likely pretty small.
2748801, people doing way way too much on the Lakers and Nets rn over one game
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Oct-20-21 02:41 PM
2748823, What's funny is... even after 15-20 games? It's the same shit.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 07:00 PM
Because especially for teams like the Lakers and Nets, winning 60-65 isn't the goal. Winning 50+ and being healthy is the goal.
2748871, If game 1 is too early...then when?
Posted by bentagain, Thu Oct-21-21 06:52 AM
I'm assuming you're of the opinion that outside of some scandal or total collapse...he should remain HC for the entire season

So...what result would put Nash in the fryer?

Outside of the top 2 seeds
3...?
2nd round exit
Finals or bust...?

IRT people dumping the predicted LAL/BKN finals
Literally watched someone pick MIL back to back yesterday morning...after 1 game
LOL
2748894, Milwaukee is the third favorite in Vegas to win the title.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 01:20 PM
And the next favorite from the East isn't really close in odds. So if you don't believe in Brooklyn, or you believe Kyrie is essential for Brooklyn, then picking Milwaukee back-to-back makes a lot of sense. I put money on a Milwaukee back-to-back based purely on value (and the fact that I have a lot of playoff questions about many of the contenders in the East).

Yeah, I mean, if the Nets are, like, at-risk of being a play-in playoff team after a quarter of the season? Sure. Fire Nash. I just think there's no chance of that happening. It'd take something bizarre for the Nets to not be a Top 3 seed in the East, and realistically a Top 2 seed in the East (I'm a lot higher on Atlanta than most, in full disclosure).

I also think this Kyrie malarky is gonna buy Nash a lot of time because there's an obvious scapegoat. If they disappoint? "Kyrie was a distraction!" If they win it all? "Nash did it!" From a narrative perspective, he's in awesome shape thanks to Kyrie, lol.

If Kyrie gets vaxxed early on, in the next month or so, and they aren't a Top 2 seed, or they lose the East with all three dudes on the floor? He'll probably get fired. But again, I just don't see any of these situations happening. I'd be very surprised if Nash isn't the coach next season.

The one thing that *can* really fuck up Nash is if he and Harden don't get along. Because Harden hasn't signed that extension yet, and that's the top priority for the Nets right now.
2748999, Always appreciate your replies
Posted by bentagain, Fri Oct-22-21 01:44 PM
"It'd take something bizarre for the Nets to not be a Top 3 seed in the East, and realistically a Top 2 seed in the East (I'm a lot higher on Atlanta than most, in full disclosure).

I also think this Kyrie malarky is gonna buy Nash a lot of time because there's an obvious scapegoat. If they disappoint? "Kyrie was a distraction!" If they win it all? "Nash did it!" From a narrative perspective, he's in awesome shape thanks to Kyrie, lol.

If Kyrie gets vaxxed early on, in the next month or so, and they aren't a Top 2 seed, or they lose the East with all three dudes on the floor? He'll probably get fired. But again, I just don't see any of these situations happening. I'd be very surprised if Nash isn't the coach next season."

w/o 'Rie, I think being lower than a 3 seed is reasonable
A few teams made some big improvements to their rosters in the east
CHI, MIA, WAS
Then you have the playoff teams from last year; MIL, ATL, BOS
PHI will get the Simmons thing resolved too

I'm of the opinion that 'Rie's antics are part of the HC's duty to resolve
IMO, he's showing a complete lack of respect for the organization

"The one thing that *can* really fuck up Nash is if he and Harden don't get along. Because Harden hasn't signed that extension yet, and that's the top priority for the Nets right now."

Yeah, not signing the extension hits different
He forced his way out of HOU...to his preferred destination
Has to be a reason he's not signing the extension
If it's Nash, that's easy math

IRT the MIL, I was just illustrating how talking heads changed their predictions after game 1

BKN is the back to back on paper champ
If they finish out of the top 3 and exit the offs early, I expect Nash to be gone
I guess the reason for my post is I expect that to happen and just wonder when he starts to get called on it
2749000, I think this is definitely fair.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Oct-22-21 02:11 PM

>w/o 'Rie, I think being lower than a 3 seed is reasonable
>A few teams made some big improvements to their rosters in the
>east
>CHI, MIA, WAS
>Then you have the playoff teams from last year; MIL, ATL, BOS
>PHI will get the Simmons thing resolved too

I think, if KD and Harden are both fully healthy, it's gonna be hard to justify lower than Top 3, because, like, a LaVine/Vucevic pair or a Beal/Dinwiddie pair just shouldn't be winning more games than a KD/Harden pair. Even Tatum/Brown, honestly, though I think both are exceptionally good young talents... they aren't a *pair of MVPs* at the end of the day, y'know?

>I'm of the opinion that 'Rie's antics are part of the HC's
>duty to resolve
>IMO, he's showing a complete lack of respect for the
>organization

I think it's fair to say that Nash should wear at least some of these problems around his neck... but it definitely feels like the organization and players are happy to just let Kyrie take the blame if shit goes south with their whole "hey, it's his choice to not play" response. It also feels like the population of NBA watchers as a whole has just roundly accepted "... yeah, Kyrie does his own thing wherever he goes, so I don't think there's anything Marks or Nash could've done here." And maybe they're right.

>Yeah, not signing the extension hits different
>He forced his way out of HOU...to his preferred destination
>Has to be a reason he's not signing the extension
>If it's Nash, that's easy math

Yeah, it'd have to be either problems with Nash or problems with Durant... and Brooklyn would much rather can Nash than lose Durant, lol. So even if Harden *does* leave because he's not feeling Durant, it's still probably Nash's ass end of the day.

>IRT the MIL, I was just illustrating how talking heads changed
>their predictions after game 1
>
>BKN is the back to back on paper champ
>If they finish out of the top 3 and exit the offs early, I
>expect Nash to be gone
>I guess the reason for my post is I expect that to happen and
>just wonder when he starts to get called on it

Well yeah, talking heads suck, generally, lol. Anyone changing any preseason predictions after one game deserves to be instantly clowned.

I think there were two main schools of thought going into this season in the East:
1. Brooklyn is the clear favorite, with or without Kyrie.
2. Brooklyn is the favorite... but without Kyrie, Milwaukee's clearly right there with them.

I've always been in Camp 2 personally. KD and Giannis are my Top 2 MVP candidates, and Brooklyn and Milwaukee are my Top 2 title contenders. How that shakes out end of the day... there's still a loooong way to go. But yeah, talking heads were probably back on TV after the Heat game saying "see? the Bucks AREN'T the favorites!" lol
2748918, nothing that happens in the regular season matters for them
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-21-21 05:25 PM
if they are healthy and dont win the title thats what you judge him on
2748831, lets start with losing in the 2nd round last year lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Oct-20-21 07:45 PM
2748867, Addressed that in the above post, of course:
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 02:42 AM
>Yeah, the defense is bad, but they were the #1 offense in the NBA last year, and they took the eventual champions to 7 games with 1.5 of their 3 stars on the floor. If they win that last game, there's an exceedingly real chance they win the title even with broken Harden and no Kyrie.
2748794, Bulls ceiling: 6th seed.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Wed Oct-20-21 12:18 PM
These first 3-5 games they should win,
but I expect them to play .500 ball until the all star break.
3 new starters to work in plus an completely new 2nd unit.
That's going to take a while to build chemistry, but preseason looked promising.

In fact LaVine didn't have to take over in order to save the game.
That 2nd game against Cleveland, DDR had a great 1Q but struggled in the 2Q.
3Q comes, and LaVine goes off for 12 points.
In the past, it would have been up to LaVine to go off to prevent a loss.


2748797, Anything over 43ish wins is a win of a season imo.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Oct-20-21 01:09 PM
That'd be a dozen win improvement over last year. If they can win 45+ and avoid the play-in entirely, then Billy will be a Top 3 COY candidate, if not the top candidate.

I definitely think they're play-in bound, but that'd still be a huge step in the right direction in an East that's considerably rebuilt.
2748816, Yep.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Wed Oct-20-21 05:07 PM
43-45 would be a great season and more importantly,
enough to convince LaVine to sign a max contract this summer.
With the cap going up in a few years, signing him now is gonna look genius.
2748832, I think LaVine is out
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Oct-20-21 07:47 PM
2748848, if we win and make the playoffs (4-6 seed) he has no reason to leave
Posted by RandomFact, Wed Oct-20-21 09:12 PM
the organization decided to spend on good players and build around him. he's THE man on what should be a good team that will get better with time. he's finally playing for an organization that is competent from the top down. everything is more or less perfect for him at the moment. helps too that he's in a major market with a dedicated worldwide fanbase.
2748799, 5th-8th seed
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 01:47 PM
They SHOULD be in that window based on the talent that has
been acquired. Their Backcourt defense, which was atrocious last year,
is new and improved. So opposing teams should find it tough with
getting penetration into the paint.

The biggest concern is interior defense. Donovan stated that the Bulls
will play a lot of small ball due to the team being undersized, so Williams
might even play the 5 on some nights. I don’t know about that.
If the Bulls can’t keep bigs off the board or protect the rim, it’s going to be a
long season.

The Bulls should be top 5/10 in scoring this season, and they should lead
the league in steals.

I’m still not a big Lavine fan, but hopefully playing on TEAM USA during the summer
has matured his game, and that he is better with protecting the ball.

2748835, Lonzo gonna be in the convo for DPOY
Posted by Tw3nty, Wed Oct-20-21 08:15 PM
2749090, Lonzo won me 600 bucks with his triple double last night
Posted by guru0509, Sat Oct-23-21 10:47 AM
+6000 odds vs a former team that snubbed him?

easiest money all day.
2748813, Tough loss to start the season...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Oct-20-21 04:05 PM
..gonna be interesting to see how this Laker team evolves, with Westbrook settling in and once they start throwing their size/weight around.

Props to GSW. That team is always within striking distance.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
2748818, Patty Mills was out there looking like Eddie House or Dana Barros
Posted by Castro, Wed Oct-20-21 05:48 PM
2748820, Anyone else revisit the old posts?
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Oct-20-21 05:57 PM
Because every time I see Eddie House's name I'm reminded of that one post that kills me every fucking time.
2748827, The Eddiie House post is all-timer
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Oct-20-21 07:18 PM
It belongs in the OKS Ring of Honor.
2748870, very good pickup for the Nets
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Oct-21-21 04:16 AM
weird seeing him as "Not A Spur" though
2748825, Chris Duarte is a beast. Levert might not get his job back
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 07:03 PM
when he comes back from injury...too injury prone

That kid is a two way machine and is just what they need.

2748826, Man stop
Posted by Beezo, Wed Oct-20-21 07:12 PM
2748836, Bulls get a hard fought W.
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 08:28 PM
The guard defense was tremendous and what got us this win.
Ayo provided a spark, and played both sides of the ball.

Ball, Ay0, Caruso, and Zack were all tremendous.

Vucevic was terrible on both sides of the ball , and Detroit was doing whatever
they wanted to in the paint. Derozan’s defense is suspect, and really wasn’t
helping out on defense. Hopefully, he plays better defensively in the next game.
We know he can score.

This was a good, solid win on the road, but the true test will
be against a good team that has a huge inside presence.


2748837, against a G-league squad lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Oct-20-21 08:30 PM
2748839, I know.
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 08:33 PM
That’s why I said the true test.

Interior defense has me mad worried.
2748841, Zach isn't max worthy?
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Wed Oct-20-21 08:35 PM
2748846, He played a great game. Hopefully, he has grown
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 08:41 PM
from his Olympic experience. Let’s see him keep it up.
2748847, Zach has the potential to enter the rarified "superstar" discussion
Posted by RandomFact, Wed Oct-20-21 08:46 PM
this season.

i think everyone is going to be shocked by his all around game. dude is built for this.

2748840, Chris Duarte
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 08:34 PM
27-5-1. 6/9 from 3

They lost by one on the road in a high scoring game...

That kid is no joke. Auto start.
2748843, Julius got some new things in his bag
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Oct-20-21 08:36 PM
.
2748845, Minnesota beating the fuck out of Houston..
Posted by guru0509, Wed Oct-20-21 08:39 PM
DLO game is so smooth and effortless...

we shoulda kept him instead of pursuing bitch ass Koward Irving smh


2748854, its the Rockets, their best player is 19 lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Oct-20-21 09:25 PM
2748859, lol let me live. Betwen the Pistons and DLO, i dont have much
Posted by guru0509, Wed Oct-20-21 09:48 PM
>

(the nets are purely a business investment for me, i have no emotional ties to them anymore)
2748849, fam those last few sequences to tie it up were incredible.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-20-21 09:14 PM
2748850, this Boston-NY game is crazy
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Oct-20-21 09:16 PM
2748852, what an insane fucking game. msg is electric.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-20-21 09:21 PM
2748853, Sitting here losing it. NUTS!!!!
Posted by Castro, Wed Oct-20-21 09:23 PM
2748855, the knicks being even slightly relevant is so good for the nba.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-20-21 09:25 PM
2748856, Folks in the Garden getting their money’s worth and then some
Posted by Beezo, Wed Oct-20-21 09:26 PM
2748857, this season is gonna be amazing fam.
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-20-21 09:41 PM
2748858, i got a 100 guns 100 clips!
Posted by Reeq, Wed Oct-20-21 09:41 PM
2748861, Man when they started chanting for Obi, I got emotional LOL
Posted by Castro, Wed Oct-20-21 10:15 PM
what a night.
2748868, NYK/BOS was great. So was CHA/IND.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 02:42 AM
Two phenomenal games. Great Game 1.
2748862, Celts fans, y'all gotta explain to me how this isn't Jalen Browns team.
Posted by Castro, Wed Oct-20-21 10:20 PM
I know Tatum is supposed to be the fifth coming of baby Jesus, but when I look at the C's to see who got that dawg in them, Smart and Brown and Time Lord are the guys.


Jalen Brown came in off of quarantine and put 46 on us in MSG opening night. That to me is alpha behavior.

Tatum may end up averaging 25, 5 and 6, but if I need a bucket....I'm giving the ball to Brown.
2748863, You’re bugging.
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-20-21 11:45 PM
Do you know how many times Tatum has taken over games in the 4th
or in OT?

Their problem is they never dominate games as a tandem. One night it’s Tatum,
the next it’s Brown.

Watch Tatum go off in the next game, and Brown’s game will be dormant.
2748884, Tatum is soft
Posted by Mack, Thu Oct-21-21 10:47 AM
he ain't the guy.
2748873, Tatum needs someone in his ear at all times
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-21-21 08:34 AM
Just whispering rebound, drive to the hoop, you’re athletic as shit, dominate

Over and over again. He falls in love with the J a little too much when he has some overwhelming physical gifts. Definitely his team but Brown is underrated imo

2748887, Got Power forward size, Tracy Mcgrady skillset and can't read the flow of a game
Posted by Castro, Thu Oct-21-21 11:48 AM
SMH
2748888, He’s TWENTY THREE…
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Oct-21-21 12:34 PM
Giannis is seemingly developing his game, right before our eyes and he’s about to be 27. The kid is nowhere near his final form as a basketball player.
2748891, Giannis is developing his skills...his sense of when to attack and how
Posted by Castro, Thu Oct-21-21 01:06 PM
has been there....he just couldn't do certain things.

With Tatum, he has all the skills - the J, the footwork, finishing in the paint, all that shit....but it routinely disappears because if the J isn't going...he locks into that and then drifts. I remember him getting hot in the bubble and whatnot.

Its like dude don't realize he could dominate just going downhill to the rim all night.

Jaylen Brown didnt always have the skills. He has the athleticism and the attacking mentality, but sometimes couldn't hit the side of a barn. Now that is no longer a problem.

2748904, So you’re saying different guys develop different attributes..
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Oct-21-21 03:01 PM
at different rates? Got it. Let’s grab a brew sometime, because we just said the same thing.
2749074, people expect these kids to be finished projects out the gate, LBJ & MJ...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-23-21 07:34 AM
didn't start winning titles until they were 27/28 years old. People were saying all type of wild shit about them before then.
2749085, I ain't expecting a title out of Tatum. LMAO. Shit he can't put two games
Posted by Castro, Sat Oct-23-21 10:23 AM
together.

You know what people were saying about Jordan in the 80's?

"Man, if he had a squad like Nique or Zeke or Larry, it would be OVER."

That's what people said about Jordan. He was playing with Granville T Waiters and such.

Michael Jordan never looked like he was unmotivated to attack or do what was necessary to win. His J might not have been automatic in 1985, but it sure as fuck was in the playoffs, no matter who he was running with.

2749117, So, now the comp is possibly the greatest player to ever breathe?…
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Oct-23-21 04:04 PM
c’mon, bro. Just say you don’t care for JT…it would make more sense.
2748864, A lot of stars had tough shooting nights, Dame, Tatum, Book, FVV…
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-21-21 12:08 AM
even looking at yesterday everyone was talking about Russ but Steph was 5 for 21 with the triple double and Harden wasn’t exactly lights out
2748865, Colin has to get better at moving without the ball.
Posted by Kira, Thu Oct-21-21 01:59 AM
Going to be a long tough season for us so losses don't matter like Surf not having third rounds.

Someone is burning jerseys if Koby swings for the fences and trades for the guy in Philly.
2748869, But Mobley is very good at basketball.
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Oct-21-21 04:15 AM
Already, he has made an impact on both sides of the ball. So glad they were able to get him.

Jarrett Allen, also good at basketball.

Darius Garland... good on the offensive side.

I like Lauri at the 3, BUT defensively, it tells me that the quest for a proper SF is priority number 1.

Team defense over all is ass. Can't have Lauri and Love line ups too frequently. From one possession to down 10 happened far too much tonight.

Koby better not trade for Ben, a no-spacing option which would wipe out about 3 active players from the roster would tank this team.
2748890, Lauri at the 3 in a 3-big lineup will result in a 60-loss season.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 01:05 PM
We saw in that first game, Ja Morant was DROOLING at how many bigs Cleveland had on the floor. There are too many guards and athletic wings who will just blow past dudes and crush dudes in iso if they play so much size/lack of speed on defense.
2748879, that 6ft backcourt is going nowhere
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-21-21 10:03 AM
2748899, Colin's on his way out.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 01:40 PM
I'd be genuinely stunned if he's in a Cavs uniform after the deadline.
2748958, mehhh... and about the only team that takes him is OKC
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Oct-21-21 11:00 PM
which could use him, but I'm not sure I'm interested in anything but a first round pick or something similar from there.
2748997, I think a bunch of teams would like him as a Sixth Man.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Oct-22-21 01:24 PM
I just don't think there's a world in which they pay all the money due to Sexton with Garland's payday coming up. You'd be committing to a 6'/6'1 backcourt going forward, which just... has zero chance to contend. Portland has one of the best guards of the modern era and a borderline all-star beside him, and even they haven't *really* sniffed actual contention.
2748957, drink urine with a glass frosted with anthrax.
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Oct-21-21 10:59 PM
2748878, I'm one of the biggest Westbrook critics ever and I think he'll be fine
Posted by guru0509, Thu Oct-21-21 09:57 AM
....I never in my wildest dreams thought he'd end up playing alongside LeBron. Probably the only player that can get through to him and make him change his style of play, I'm certain he gets a ring now.

and in light of all the Koward and Simmons drama, my respect for him has gone through the roof.

A lot of overreactions here based on one game into the season lol

2748881, The LAL issue is caving to AD's preference of playing the 4
Posted by bentagain, Thu Oct-21-21 10:14 AM
He's a modern NBA 5 and needs to play that position.

IRT Russ, I like the idea of him coming off the bench

I'm not sure what his role is as a starter
He's not a shooter
Bron needs the ball

Let Russ come off the bench and do Russ type things.
2748883, Almost always, that level of talent will figure itself out
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Oct-21-21 10:46 AM
but it takes time. When LeBron first went to Miami - they started the season 9-8. When he went back to Cleveland - that team was essentially playing .500 basketball for the first quarter of the season. Both teams went on make the Finals nonetheless.

Lot of talk about Russ accepting a 6th man role - but it's way too early to even think about that IMO. Vogel should definitely stagger minutes later in the game so that Russ can be out there doing his thing when Bron is resting, but both Russ & Bron pass at an elite level...once they find their groove I actually think they will play well with each other - particularly in the open court.

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2748892, Even if he doesn't change his style, I don't think it'll matter much.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 01:11 PM
If he doesn't change, all that means is they likely don't use him as often at the ends of close games, since all close games will end with Bron/AD two-man game and, ideally, three shooters waiting for the pass. If he wants to consistently play in those moments, then sure, he's gotta figure out better off-ball skills.

But if he doesn't? Russ runs transition offense. Lakers were one of the slowest teams in the NBA last year, because Bron simply can't bust ass up the court like that anymore. But you know who can? One of the best transition basketball players in the world over the last decade plus. Bron can jog up the floor (or spend time on the bench, thank god for him) while Russ sprints like a bat out of hell up and down the court, driving, kicking, etc. Having a *literal* change of pace would be fucking huge for the Lakers.

And even when they're on the floor together, it's only gonna be a detriment in half-court sets if they have Russ and another non-shooter (Rondo, for instance) on the floor. We saw Russ and Rondo together a little during that Warriors game, and the defense just packed in as hard as it fucking could, lol. Vogel just has to figure out the right rotation pieces. If Russ and Bron are out there together, it needs to be all shooters like Monk and them. If one of Russ or Bron aren't on the court, you can play guys like Rondo or some of the more defense-first guys alongside.

But yeah, Russ has such obvious regular season value for the Lakers. Anyone overreacting to one bad Russ game... isn't familiar with the last decade plus of Russ basketball, lol. He lays an egg sometimes. Other times he's gonna go for 45-15-20 and singlehandedly drag a team to victory in some spot against a middling team when other stars might mentally take a night off, lol.
2748901, I'm in wait and see mode, a lot of stars looked shitty on the first day
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-21-21 01:58 PM
2748893, i thought last season's obnoxious knick fan was just a phase
Posted by FunkyBoss, Thu Oct-21-21 01:18 PM
but i'm starting to think otherwise. We weren't like this in the 90s or that one year we took the division in 2013(?) or were we? I just be seeing these kids and think shouldn't y'all be wearing nets gear. I dont know maybe its cuz weed is legal now
2748895, I noticed it during the first round last year.
Posted by Numba_33, Thu Oct-21-21 01:22 PM
The crowd literally cursing out Trae Young right off the rip in the first quarter of the first game in that series surprised me a ton. And I've been a Knicks fan since the 90s. I thought that was a bit too much at the time.
2748896, The Yankees did it. Those same muhphuckas r new age Yankees
Posted by Castro, Thu Oct-21-21 01:25 PM
THEE WORST.

In any other universe, they are Celtics fans. But somehow we ended up with them.
2748897, Wonder if these folks happen to reside in Long Island.
Posted by Numba_33, Thu Oct-21-21 01:35 PM
The folks I'm seeing are a bit too rambunctious to be everyday folks from one of the five boros.

Almost as if being in NYC is an excuse to act buckwild since this isn't their home in a sense.
2748902, RE: Wonder if these folks happen to reside in Long Island.
Posted by Castro, Thu Oct-21-21 02:14 PM
A lot of them just got to NY or work there...

either way, they aren't going to deter my enjoyment of this current squad. I am happy to see that we can compete and HOW we compete.
2748966, Long Island, White Plains, HoBROken, etc
Posted by guru0509, Fri Oct-22-21 01:10 AM
>The folks I'm seeing are a bit too rambunctious to be
>everyday folks from one of the five boros.
>
>Almost as if being in NYC is an excuse to act buckwild since
>this isn't their home in a sense.
2748898, When a team that mostly sucked for a long time is suddenly good...
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-21-21 01:39 PM
... the fans INVARIABLY are that much more obnoxious.

Like, maybe people forget, but Florida fans under Billy Donovan, especially once they won back-to-backs, were among the most intolerable basketball fans in history. Or when Gary had the Terps relevant for the first time in nearly two decade around Y2K, those fans went from garden-variety annoying to nuclear.
2748903, New age of fans who are influenced by social media and
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 02:21 PM
and the legalization of weed ( as you stated), and throw in the
fact that New York is a melting pot of people of so many different
cultures and backgrounds ( first, second and 3rd generation americans).

These aren’t the beer drinking or cigarette smoking New Yorkers of the 70s, 80s or 90s.

I lived in New York for six years, and the overzealous emotion towards the slightest
situation was glaring. Being from Chicago, and seeing and hearing so much
violence, I didn’t really have time to sweat the small things in life.


That goes for Boston and Philly as well.



2748905, What in the hell does that have to do with weed
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Oct-21-21 03:03 PM
2748906, These mfers acting like they snorted an Onyx album
Posted by DJR, Thu Oct-21-21 03:46 PM
“Blame it on teh weed!”

Lolsmh
2748909, Just the proliferation and acceptance of drugs in general, and
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 04:11 PM
with weed being legal, you have young people being able to gain access.
It’s similar to when prohibition was lifted on alcohol. That had a huge affect
on high schoolers and college students.

Drugs affect behavior in so many different ways, and the smoking of marijuana
has increased tremendously.

There is a USA Today article on the growing addiction of marijuana
in America, and how it is affecting the behavior of society.

So the poster has a point.

It’s wild how people think marijuana is some harmless little drug.


2748910, And that has exactly nothing to do with Knicks fans being annoying.
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Oct-21-21 04:30 PM
2748911, He is talking about the young fans and their behavior,
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 04:44 PM
which is why he made the weed comment.

You got more young fans of this generation coming in high and intoxicated
than previous generations.....and they are smoking weed more than they are
drinking.

These aren’t the simple beer drinking fans of the 90s who were
annoying( not rambunctious).

So in my opinion, the poster has a point.
2748914, Oh, do you romanticize the past?
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Oct-21-21 05:07 PM
Shocked. Shocked I tell you.

*does jerk off motion*
2748915, You have a serious issue.
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 05:12 PM
There is a time to joke, or to be silly, like when we are talking
about each other’s teams, etc....but then there is a time to switch
off.

2748919, Literally nothing you said makes a lick of sense.
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Oct-21-21 05:41 PM
2748920, Have a good night.
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 05:50 PM
2748932, You’re annoying (not rambunctious). Good night.
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Oct-21-21 07:23 PM
2748942, lmao... what???
Posted by pretentious username, Thu Oct-21-21 09:13 PM

>
>These aren’t the simple beer drinking fans of the 90s who
>were
>annoying( not rambunctious).
2748907, havent knicks fans always been obnoxious as hell?
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-21-21 03:49 PM
2748908, Uh, yeah (link)
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Oct-21-21 03:56 PM
https://youtu.be/NaVa6NHwUUg?t=34


2748917, No. Not like this
Posted by FunkyBoss, Thu Oct-21-21 05:23 PM
You’d think we’re coming off a 60 win championship season. During the 90s I think people hated the actual team and were indifferent about the fans. Maybe these productions have more cameras and mics on the crowd

Yankees were like 3 rings in when the fan base became annoying on a national level.
2749086, PASSIONATE, but not obnoxious. These are Dolan's people.
Posted by Castro, Sat Oct-23-21 10:24 AM
2748935, Damn Bucks getting their wig split!
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 07:31 PM
This is ugly.

22-3

Hmm can they come back?


Bucks are without Lopez and Holiday, though.
2748938, South Beach got something to say.
Posted by Castro, Thu Oct-21-21 07:47 PM
2748939, ice trae is gonna have a better career than luka
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-21-21 08:34 PM
in terms of team success.

this hawks team is deep with the starters and a few bench players capable of easily putting up 10-20 on any given night. and they play d.

this mavs team just looks like more of the same. easily beatable when luka isnt having a lights out night and still pretty beatable even when he is. i could see kidd and luka wearing on each other as the season continues if they perform below expectations.
2748956, Hawks are deep. Dallas is going to be in trouble.
Posted by Castro, Thu Oct-21-21 10:37 PM
Luka gonna get tired of being the man with no help.
2748944, Tyler Hierro is on s mission.
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 09:23 PM
I see him getting most improved player this year.

He let the limelight get to him last season,
but now he is locked and loaded.
2748945, steph locked in tonight.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-21-21 09:41 PM
2748946, Seth brother going crazy
Posted by Beezo, Thu Oct-21-21 09:41 PM
2748947, Steph got 25 in the first quarter?
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-21-21 09:42 PM
2748949, 27. smh.
Posted by poetx, Thu Oct-21-21 09:57 PM

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748948, this ni&&a steph out here stephing.
Posted by poetx, Thu Oct-21-21 09:47 PM
most stephinately.

homie said he was trash the other night when he fucked around and got a triple double.

how bout i just don't miss in the 1st quarter.

shit is crazy.

wigs off to a fast start. dubs looking crazy. thing is clips started out hot af.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748951, Clippers coming back
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-21-21 10:11 PM
2748952, warriors and these fucking turnovers.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-21-21 10:13 PM
2748954, reply #225 nm
Posted by poetx, Thu Oct-21-21 10:16 PM

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748955, seriously. shit is so frustrating with him.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-21-21 10:17 PM
2748953, PG on one, as well.
Posted by poetx, Thu Oct-21-21 10:14 PM

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748959, Miami came through with the wrecking ball. I'm not mad
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Oct-21-21 11:05 PM
Bucks looked like the OLD Bucks out there LOL

2748961, No Holiday.
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 11:21 PM
No Lopez.

2748960, refs letting these dudes bump. you love to see it.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Oct-21-21 11:19 PM
2748964, well damn. that was a helluva ending. clips got a squad. west is gonna
Posted by poetx, Thu Oct-21-21 11:41 PM
be hella interesting this year.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2748965, What a game.
Posted by allStah, Thu Oct-21-21 11:45 PM
Great shooting by both teams ( mainly Steph for the Warriors)....

If I’m not mistaken, Clippers were the best or second best 3pt shooting
team last year. Everybody on that team can stroke it.

Clips might just get over the hump this year and get a chip.
2748980, Knicks gotta stop MO BAMBA tonight. He had 18 first game....
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-22-21 10:39 AM
I actually think he is going to keep this up.
2748981, Knicks gotta stop MO BAMBA tonight. He had 18 first game....
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-22-21 10:39 AM
I actually think he is going to keep this up.
2748987, I had to look him up.
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Oct-22-21 11:29 AM
I was relieved when I saw that he wasn't a point guard.

I think this Knicks team is going to get torched by top tier point guards this season based on what I saw in the Boston game. Any top level point guard that can penetrate and/or draw double teams by breaking down the wing defense will give the Knicks serious problems.

As improved as Barrett's defense was in the first game, I don't think his lateral movement is good enough to deal with smaller and shiftier point guards. Hopefully I will be proved wrong as the season progresses.

2749027, Gerald Green retires (Tweet)
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Fri Oct-22-21 05:53 PM
https://twitter.com/JTGatlin/status/1451681549972393985

Gerald Green announces his retirement from basketball and will be joining the Houston Rockets as a player development coach.
2749031, Top 5 dunker.
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-22-21 07:07 PM
2749037, Top 5??
Posted by allStah, Fri Oct-22-21 08:53 PM
Jordan
Wilkins
Carter
Richardson
Kemp
—————
Dr.J
Lavine
Gordon
2749033, wtf was going on with that coinbase ad?
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-22-21 07:22 PM
is that a digital ad projected by the arena or espn?

im so confused.
2749034, zach hasn't scored a point and the bulls are up 17
Posted by RandomFact, Fri Oct-22-21 07:48 PM
this bulls team is different.

2749035, We're up by 32 and Randle and Rose are still on the floor
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-22-21 08:08 PM
This is the part of Thibs that is shit.

McBride and Knox could use the minutes. Put the kids in, numbnuts.
2749036, He put Knox in. Sheesh. McBride needs to get in too.
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-22-21 08:10 PM
Rose still on the floor.
2749038, danny green smh. dude be airballing critical 3s with confidence.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-22-21 08:54 PM
2749039, why didnt doc challenge that blocking call?
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-22-21 08:59 PM
2749094, Green and Doc blew it. 16-1 run in the last 5 minutes.
Posted by Mignight Maruder, Sat Oct-23-21 11:26 AM
Doc should’ve challenged the foul/charge on Durant - which led to a 3 pound swing. Danny Green not just missed two open 3 pointers, he missed badly, which led to easy transition points. Pretty bad chokejob.

If there’s any positive to take it’s that the Sixers held the lead for about 98% of the game and were without Simmons and Shake Milton. Also, Embiid sat for much of the 4th quarter and had a really off night.

If only the Sixers kept Bridges instead of stupidly trading him for Zaire Smith, they’d have a legit lineup (he’d replace Danny Green).
2749040, Kyle Kuzma and Harrell are BALLING in DC!
Posted by allStah, Fri Oct-22-21 09:03 PM
and I mean balling.

Why do players turn into studs when they leave the LAKERS

How sway?
2749042, It’s game 2
Posted by Beezo, Fri Oct-22-21 09:19 PM
2749047, Right, because Harrell never had 14 and 7 before!
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-22-21 10:18 PM
You’re such a try hard, lol
2749048, He was on the bench last year, Not getting tick.
Posted by allStah, Fri Oct-22-21 10:27 PM
Kuzma dropped around 25/13

They both made critical plays down the stretch.

Stop lying.

2749055, He averaged 13.5 and 6.2 last year
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-22-21 11:03 PM
He had 14 and 7 tonight. Basically the same thing.

Pressed. Try hard.

Just stop.
2749067, You just glossed right over Kuzma
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 01:18 AM
Mmhmmm...


2749093, No, I addressed the part you were wrong about
Posted by DJR, Sat Oct-23-21 11:16 AM
Kuzma had his good games in LA too, but Washington is a better spot for him to break out.

He’ll play well and put up numbers there. Don’t think he’ll be a top player on a good team level guy though.
2749041, Another Doc Rivers choke job
Posted by allStah, Fri Oct-22-21 09:11 PM
He is such an overrated coach. It’s horrid.
2749044, Pels were dummies for not attempting to keep lonzo
Posted by RandomFact, Fri Oct-22-21 09:35 PM
mans just had a clean triple double. barely broke a sweat (aside from locking down fools on defense). perfect POINT GUARD for a team loaded with scorers.

seems like the pels are trying to sabotage what should be a great situation on purpose.

2749083, Yup him and Zach together, that is a dirty dirty backcourt.
Posted by Castro, Sat Oct-23-21 10:17 AM
Lots of teams gonna get their feelings hurt by the Chi.
2749115, This man blocked a 3 pointer from damn near the paint
Posted by Tw3nty, Sat Oct-23-21 03:50 PM
It would be insane if he's not in the DPOY convo.
2749045, ad and dwight fighting on the bench.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-22-21 10:17 PM
https://twitter.com/LakeShowYo/status/1451748467680808962
2749053, can't wait for postgame. Also, wonder when dwight will be released
Posted by dillinjah, Fri Oct-22-21 10:47 PM
2749054, Bron took this barbershop concept too far
Posted by Castro, Fri Oct-22-21 10:55 PM
They fighting like they are the shop.
2749243, fighting? Looks like he tickled him
Posted by Stadiq, Sun Oct-24-21 10:44 PM

WTF was that?
2749046, Bwahahahaha!
Posted by allStah, Fri Oct-22-21 10:18 PM
Dwight and AD fighting each other! Dwight mad he wasn’t included
on the top 75 list, but AD was

Suns blowing these old dudes out.

2749056, does any 'great' player blow more layups than westbrook?
Posted by Reeq, Fri Oct-22-21 11:14 PM
like how does he still have such poor control of his body/speed on those hard drives?

wtf is this dude shooting this season? is it over 30%?
2749057, Lol, throws his hands up for a foul every time too
Posted by DJR, Fri Oct-22-21 11:17 PM
make a shot.
2749058, Young Brodie would’ve dunked them shits.
Posted by Beezo, Fri Oct-22-21 11:22 PM
2749059, lol uh oh
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Oct-22-21 11:28 PM
2749062, game 2
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-23-21 12:03 AM
2749065, Can’t help but get Nash/Howard flashbacks
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-23-21 12:35 AM
When all the fans and the team were very “we’re not worried this thing will turn around”

I overreact but it’s very hard not to have PTSD.
2749066, Played Bradley 20 minutes and he scored 0 points
Posted by DJR, Sat Oct-23-21 12:41 AM
Desperate for perimeter defense.
2749073, almost anytime you put multiple All-Stars on a team its not going to be....
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-23-21 07:29 AM
smooth out the gate. Coaching in the NBA is more about managing egos than X's O's, sometimes you have to let players trying it their then when it doesn't work they have to listen to the coach. Phil did that in Chicago and LA, Spoelstra in Miami, Kerr to a certain extent in GS.

Doc Rivers' Celtics are the only team in NBA history with multiple All-Stars to just come out the gate humming because Doc had them on that Unbutu shit and KG specifically bought in he set the tone early he could've came in and said "I'm KG, I'm an MVP, I gotta get my 20, 10 & 5!" but he didn't he came in and said he didn't care about offensive numbers he wanted to focus on defense and that set the tone for the entire team.
2749068, And y’all cats wanna make top 3 bets
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 01:21 AM
Gone get ready for that play in tournament, mang
2749123, …this makes you look like even more of a dummy in not taking it.
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-23-21 04:47 PM
2749069, not a good start for this Lakers experiment
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat Oct-23-21 05:00 AM
maybe that's why /some folks/ stay mad about a team out of playoff contention. I think the Dwight thing blows over. the Russ situation is a ticking timebomb.
2749075, they just playing like jackasses rn
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Oct-23-21 07:49 AM
I watched some preseason and we had all these new fresh actions and stuff in the scheme. And then the regular season hits and these dudes abandoned all that shit to come out playing streetball and not even trying on defense. I know we have some injuries but Vogel isn’t even trying to put out logical lineups based on what we have.

Deandre should not be playing at all. He should never play when Russ is in
Why is Reeves nailed to the pine now. He’s ready.
Monk and Melo cannot play together. Monk needs to start instead of Deandre for spacing purposes
2749078, The Lakers have most of the personnel to solve this on their roster.
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat Oct-23-21 09:36 AM
>I watched some preseason and we had all these new fresh
>actions and stuff in the scheme. And then the regular season
>hits and these dudes abandoned all that shit to come out
>playing streetball and not even trying on defense. I know we
>have some injuries but Vogel isn’t even trying to put out
>logical lineups based on what we have.

None of them are available right now for whichever reason. The question is: can Vogel (and LeBron) be patient/competent enough for that moment to come?

Russ should never be on the floor with Rondo in any lineups.Ideally, Russ should SPLIT "Lebron on the Bench" time with Rondo. And both of them need the same sort of people on the floor with them. Really, Rondo is back of the bench with this roster. There so you don't have a younger player bullshitting when playmaking is needed.

I straight up forgot DeAndre was on the Lakers until I saw him the other night.

Things get better when THT, Ariza, Ellington, and especially Nunn get back. Nunn will probably be starting when he's back. Melo and Monk probably won't be in the same lineups after those guys are all back.
2749076, I feel like the Dwight/AD thing was AD's fault, he's still learning this...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-23-21 07:50 AM
leadership thing on a championship contender. You can't scream on 35y/o future HOF'er the same way you did with KCP and Kuzma. He could've waited and said whatever he had to say in the locker room, not in the Staples Center in front of the world in the 2nd game of the regular season, its not like it was a playoff game. LeBron will school him to that and I wouldn't be surprised if we see AD come out and publicly apologize.

You know there is already tension between these 2 about the 75th team shit. You know all those guys are sitting around talking about it watching all the sports shows talking about it and all the memes just like we are. I wouldn't be surprised if dudes like CP3 and Crowder did some sneak dissing on the low to stir it up.

I think this team is going to be Lebron's biggest leadership challenge. Its harder to leader a team of veteran stars than young guys especially if they are mostly all new to this team.
2749089, Westbrook airballing a wide open 3 had me laughing so hard...
Posted by guru0509, Sat Oct-23-21 10:35 AM
the second his athleticism slips one rung below what it is now hes gonna be the most useless player on the court

>maybe that's why /some folks/ stay mad about a team out of
>playoff contention. I think the Dwight thing blows over. the
>Russ situation is a ticking timebomb.
2749077, so Davion Mitchell put Dame and Donovan in a straightjacket
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Oct-23-21 09:33 AM
OFF THE RIP

i mean absolute lockdown
https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1451750839350009862

gotta watch them play GSW Sunday to see what he got for Steph
2749080, Ayah, he had Syda in hell, last night…
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Oct-23-21 09:42 AM
looking like Lou Dort with them clamps.
2749084, spellcheck wildin
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Oct-23-21 10:21 AM
.
2749087, Damn, Momma there goes that dawg
Posted by Castro, Sat Oct-23-21 10:31 AM
2749088, We need more defense clips posted to Twitter
Posted by Amritsar, Sat Oct-23-21 10:33 AM
Good for our morale. And for the children to see
2749092, DPOY in his first three seasons.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Oct-23-21 11:08 AM
They're desperate to give it to a guard too-- it's been all big men for so long.

And he very well, day one, may be the best on-ball defensive guard in the NBA. He's at minimum a top 3 on-ball defensive guard candidate. Just unreal length, skill, IQ, and motor on defense.
2749097, You spelled Luguentz wrong
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Oct-23-21 11:52 AM
.
2749099, Steph will bring him back to reality lol...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-23-21 01:01 PM
>OFF THE RIP
>
>i mean absolute lockdown
>https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1451750839350009862
>
>gotta watch them play GSW Sunday to see what he got for Steph
2749082, The Lakers have weak shooting
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 09:53 AM
When Lebron is your best 3pt shooter on the floor, you have a problem.
Lakers mainly have streaky shooters. They can’t consistently hit threes
like the Clippers, Warriors, Jazz, Nuggets or the Suns.

The land of big names and big players, but no shooting. The Suns game
was just like the Warriors games, every player being able to hit from
3, leading to blowing the lakers out the building.

They play Memphis next. That might be a loss as well, because Melton, Bane
and Jackson can stroke it.

2749095, Lakers lost to two elite WC teams to start the season
Posted by Vex_id, Sat Oct-23-21 11:27 AM
Now their schedule gets relatively easy for the next half dozen games or so. When you watch GSW and Phoenix play - they know exactly who they are/what they want to run and have the benefit of familiarity/chemistry. Lakers overhauled their entire roster and can't expect to have a semblance of continuity until at least 15-20 games into the season.

Nonetheless, last night was really ugly. Lakers have so much work to do.
2749096, lol right. In terms of elite continuity...
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Oct-23-21 11:51 AM
... there's, like, Milwaukee, GSW, Phoenix, Utah, and Denver. That's it. Those teams are likely to give teams with new roster constructions fits in the first few games of the season.

A young hungry Grizzlies team at home, a team even the Lakers in this state should beat, should tell us a lot about how the next few weeks will go, I'd think.
2749110, RE: lol right. In terms of elite continuity...
Posted by Vex_id, Sat Oct-23-21 03:08 PM

>A young hungry Grizzlies team at home, a team even the Lakers
>in this state should beat, should tell us a lot about how the
>next few weeks will go, I'd think.

Agreed. The Griz game tomorrow will be an interesting one - and also an important one for the Lakers to try and build some momentum going into this relatively soft part of their schedule.



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2749100, basically...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-23-21 01:03 PM
>Now their schedule gets relatively easy for the next half
>dozen games or so. When you watch GSW and Phoenix play - they
>know exactly who they are/what they want to run and have the
>benefit of familiarity/chemistry. Lakers overhauled their
>entire roster and can't expect to have a semblance of
>continuity until at least 15-20 games into the season.
>
>Nonetheless, last night was really ugly. Lakers have so much
>work to do.
2749104, You spewed that same narrative last season after the
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 01:35 PM
lakers overhauled their roster, and last year’s roster was
better than this year’s roster. The skillsets of Harrell, Kuzma,
Drummond, Caruso,Pope,and Dennis are collectively far superior
than those of the new players on this year’s roster.

They were younger and more offensively/ defensively skilled,
and the lakers still lacked chemistry and harmony as a unit.

Will you ever give an impartial opinion on Lebron and the Lakers,
or will it forever be influenced by you simply being a fanatic?








2749112, lol ok.
Posted by Vex_id, Sat Oct-23-21 03:11 PM
Last year's roster was essentially brand new as well - and they started to play great basketball towards the end of the year before the injuries decimated them. They were up 2-1 on the Western Conf. champions and the consensus was that they were going to coast if they stayed healthy -- but they weren't healthy. Bron was hobbled and AD was seriously hurt. If they stayed healthy that team could've marched deep into the playoffs.

Way too early to conclusively say that last year's roster was more balanced/complete than this year - but of course - you're the king of premature, poorly thought out analysis - so it's on-brand. Lakers don't even have Nunn/THT/Ellington & Ariza yet. Relax.


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2749121, Premature?
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 04:32 PM
Every year you go over the top and become nonsensical about Lebron and
the Lakers. You said they were going to win the chip last season. It
didn’t happen ( you don’t say?).

You’re not even a Lakers fan or follower. You’re just a Lebron squire,
which is a mental disorder in itself, and no matter what team he plays
for, you will sound off foolishly and ignorantly about how the team
is constructed, and how they will perform throughout the season.

You can’t even be honest about Lebron’s legacy, and how other player’s
legacies are far superior. You have a disease, and it inhibits your ability
to SEE CLEARLY.

I can’t wait to hear your non-factual takes on the Lakers
1 month from now when they are still playing like crap.

Stay VEXed.
2749236, yea that's deep.
Posted by Vex_id, Sun Oct-24-21 09:35 PM



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2749125, You’re a walking contradiction.
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-23-21 06:32 PM
Just stay mad and romanticize the 90s as per usual.

But hey at least you’re not rambunctious!
2749130, Look straight ahead to the road you’re about to encounter.
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 07:46 PM
It’s a decade full of wack’ness and mediocrity for your team.




2749133, Marijuana has ruined basketball fans (c) you
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-23-21 08:58 PM
I think you’re very wrong.

I also don’t give a shit because we got one in 2020. Which is more than the Bulls have had in 24+ years.

Oh well.

Good thing I’m not rambunctious!!!
2749134, No. I didn’t state that.
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 09:16 PM
And the poster I was agreeing with didn’t state that either.

He stated that the rambunctious behavior of young New York fans could
be due to the increase of marijuana smoking in America, since marijuana
is now legal to smoke.

I said that the poster has a point, and elaborated further.

But of course you would sensationalize the matter, because your
lack of maturity always unveils itself.

Anyway, that has nothing to do with the subject at hand...thanks for your
digression.
2749138, And again it was all absolute nonsense.
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-23-21 09:21 PM
But I digress.

You won’t bet shit because that “died in the 90s” even tho it’s, according to you, a shoo-in it won’t happen which makes you afraid.

Anywho.

Lakers since Shaq have won as many as the Bulls ever. Oh well. Call it a Mickey Mouse ring. You wish you had one since Britney Spears first charted.
2749143, Britney Spears?
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 09:33 PM
That’s the best example or analogy you could think of?

Garbage. Pure garbage.... Just like your team and the fanbase
you represent.

Go polish your summer camp trophy.

2749148, Remember when you lied about calling the Lakers and Warriors bums?
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Oct-23-21 09:43 PM
Bulls haven’t been shit since i was halfway thru high school and Clinton was President. Is that a good enough reference for you, liar?
2749136, Billy Donovan is an elite coach.
Posted by allStah, Sat Oct-23-21 09:21 PM
The Chicago Bulls are the OKC Thunder of a year ago,
but more offensively prolific.

Lonzo’s defense is Gary Payton like. He is one smart
player.

The pressure that we put on guards and forwards is vicious....

Our point guard put up 4 blocks!
2749154, you beat Detroit's g-league team twice and the Pelicans without Zion lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-24-21 01:27 AM
2749161, Evan Mobley continues to be good at basketball.
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-24-21 09:53 AM
Cavs finally get a win, against Atlanta, held to 95.

Now don't get me wrong, the TEAM is not good. So many missed shots off WIDE OPEN looks. defense suffers but they did the right thing in the 2nd half for the most part.

But some individual triumphs:

Evan Mobley is looking more and more like the real deal. On a team that is not good overall, he is affecting the defense single handedly.

Had 17pts/11 rebounds against ATL, add 1 assist and 4 blocks. He was actually guarding Trae Young effectively. A 7 footer!

Ricky Rubio pulled through with some clutch buckets toward the end and keeping the team calmed down in crunch time.


Sexton (who is only spending time at PG because Garland is out) should have had 10 assists, but the majority were bricks off wide open looks. He's making good decisions and playing within the offense, creating opportunities for others with his speed and the threat to go to the hoop or shoot the 3, which is all I can ask for. He was in foul trouble through most of the 4th.

Markannen. Man... he misses way too many wide open looks to be desired right now. With Kevin Love doing the same (to be fair, he was much more engaged and contributing in key spots against ATL), this is going to be painful.

The sooner Okoro can play in his proper position, the better. He plays good defense, but offensively, he's as far from ideal.

Always drafting BPA would have had the Cavs looking like the Kings right now, which I'm sure isn't that far off. They have a better set of guards overall than we do. But the rest of the team outside of Harrison Barnes (who I would welcome here with open arms now)...


Rough road stretch coming up, starting with the Nuggets. The gotdamn Lakers and Clippers on the list. A Charlotte rematch to end it. This is about to be a row of Ls.
2749162, Evan's a freak, no question.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Oct-24-21 10:28 AM
Crazy watching Rubio drain the big shots. That's just... not something we're used to seeing, lol.
2749164, Rubio basically outplayed Trae
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-24-21 10:40 AM
2749167, Rubio is BALLIN
Posted by Castro, Sun Oct-24-21 10:55 AM
Still finds the open man, but damn, he can score now. He is the lounge lizard Dragic.
2749223, I think he was still running off that Olympic swag.
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Oct-24-21 05:28 PM
He was BALLING for Spain. He's done well here. Better when this team tightens up and Garland comes back, so he can play a more regular amount of minutes.

Some of his shot selection is frustrating, but over all, not mad but glad at his presence.
2749197, Rondo gonna sit down some days for this, right?
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Oct-24-21 02:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1451872950127366144?s=20
2749216, Maybe...but Kyrie gotta keep sitting fir this...
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sun Oct-24-21 03:49 PM
https://sportsnaut.com/kyrie-irving-protest-brooklyn-nets/
2749218, why would Rondo have to sit down?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-24-21 04:40 PM
2749228, the gun motion, right at dude’s head
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Oct-24-21 06:33 PM
.
2749229, do we know what the guy said?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-24-21 07:00 PM
2749231, No, but the fan was ejected…
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Oct-24-21 07:09 PM
that doesn’t mean Romdo isn’t going to face some kind of punishment for his part in it.
2749234, for pointing the dude out to security?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Oct-24-21 08:27 PM
>that doesn’t mean Romdo isn’t going to face some kind of
>punishment for his part in it.
2749237, no.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-24-21 09:41 PM
2749238, deandre jordan must have blackface pics of frank vogel.
Posted by Reeq, Sun Oct-24-21 10:03 PM
i have no idea why this dude starts or gets major minutes.
2749242, Morant and the youngins
Posted by allStah, Sun Oct-24-21 10:35 PM
out there killing them dudes.

Russ with 7 TOs per usual.

This team is too old to play like this night in and night out....

They might get the win tonight..but Memphis is clearly the better
and faster team.

2749246, LOL
Posted by DJR, Sun Oct-24-21 11:53 PM
>out there killing them dudes.
>

LOL

>This team is too old to play like this night in and night
>out....
>
>They might get the win tonight..but Memphis is clearly the
>better
>and faster team.
>

LOL.
2749254, Jah dropped 40-10 on your squad.
Posted by allStah, Mon Oct-25-21 02:15 AM
and them youngins were gooning y’all the whole night.

The old ass Lakers escaped with a 121-118 win.
The only thing that saved y’all was Jah missed a free
throw to tie the game. You were probably praying to Zeus

I don’t expect you to be honest, though. I don’t
expect one single lakers fan to be honest..

2749269, RE: Jah dropped 40-10 on your squad.
Posted by DJR, Mon Oct-25-21 10:03 AM
>and them youngins were gooning y’all the whole night.

LOL!!


>The old ass Lakers escaped with a 121-118 win.

LOL!

>The only thing that saved y’all was Jah missed a free
>throw to tie the game. You were probably praying to Zeus

LOL
>I don’t expect you to be honest, though. I don’t
>expect one single lakers fan to be honest..
>

LOL
2749273, Like I said.
Posted by allStah, Mon Oct-25-21 10:59 AM
I don’t expect you to be honest.
2749244, Reaves needs more minutes. Way more
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-24-21 10:45 PM
Vogel don’t need to keep him in his back pocket like he did Caruso
2749245, Bazemore OTOH should get zero minutes. Especially when THT and Ariza are back
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Oct-24-21 11:08 PM
That dude is sorry as fuck
2749248, I feel like they want him to be KCP
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-25-21 12:08 AM
2749249, I’ll take it! ***three fingers to the side of the head***
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-25-21 12:10 AM
2749253, new foul rules got harden flustered.
Posted by Reeq, Mon Oct-25-21 01:19 AM
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1452410854742233088

dude had 1 foul called lol.
2749255, Jalen Green appears in a loss to the Celtics
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Oct-25-21 02:43 AM
think he has either tied or broken a record for 3PM made by a rookie by 8, dropped 30.

the Rockets getting both Sengun and Green may make up for the loss of Harden. Still not in a place where I think they can win games, but at this stage they're in a good place.

Josh Giddey had 19pts/8rebs/7asts/4 steals... damn!!
Maybe the Thunder did know what they were doing.
They are essentially a G-League team in the NBA right now, but those are some good numbers playing in that situation.

2749277, NBA Chalamet is the real deal.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Oct-25-21 12:21 PM
>Josh Giddey had 19pts/8rebs/7asts/4 steals... damn!!

I love that they seem to be just going for an all-versatility lineup, focusing on versatile players who can all handle, pass, and create. Giddey was a little lower on my board than where he was picked, but the match makes perfect sense, and I'm not surprised to see him shining already. His passing for his age is absolutely bonkers.
2749278, lol, I was indifferent on draft night....
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Oct-25-21 12:37 PM
you said you liked the pick. He's a dynamo. Kid is slick. He and Shai have the greenest of lights to do whatever the fuck they want, too. I worry about the losing, though. We lost by 600 points to Houston, Friday. Last night Shai and Josh went at Philly would all they had and it's just not enough. We're going to lose SO much. I don't want that glimmer in Shai's eye to get extinguished. He's such a cool kid and he loves to ball and he loves the city.