I’m loving Scotty Barnes already...looks like a reincarnation of Pippen.

i just wanted to post that.

Shoot them shits big fellas!

Smh.

and usually im weary of all the crypto currency nerds (and BOY is he one lol)

I bet the nets kept him right now though lmao. he can be solid PG if he's healed properly.

Lavine and Lonzo look very comfortable together and both already know how to find DeRozan in his spots. Caruso doing his thing too. Vucevic will get his shots too....if the front court can play defense half as good as Ball and Lavine....wooosa. They definitely look like a playoff team.

>....if the front
>court can play defense

But then again, it was the Cavs.
Definitely promising, but I need larger sample size.

Ball and Caruso are immediately huge upgrades defensively for the Bulls.
And when Patrick Williams returns, I think they'll be ok.
And look, they don't need to be a top 5 defense.
An average defense will get this team to a 6th seed easy.

>But then again, it was the Cavs.
>Definitely promising, but I need larger sample size.
>
>Ball and Caruso are immediately huge upgrades defensively for
>the Bulls.
>And when Patrick Williams returns, I think they'll be ok.
>And look, they don't need to be a top 5 defense.
>An average defense will get this team to a 6th seed easy.
>

he's gets numbers offensively but he's a liability on D, that's why Orlando was sorry despite his "all-star" status

The one thing these two pre-season games have showed me is that
high IQ players on defense make a huge difference.
The Bulls haven't had that in a long time.
Both Caruso and Ball make Vucevic's life so much easier.
Caruso is so good at placing himself in a position to cover
two players it makes it so Vucevic doesn't have to drop back so quickly.

I'll be curious to see how it looks in a month.

not as bad as people think on that end.

and with zach's defense improving after a summer of pop using him as a defensive stopper paired with lonzo, caruso (who will probably close most games), and a promising patrick williams (who has all the physical tools to be really good) i think we can be better than average.

With Lonzo and Lavine, they really are going to be a tough matchup for other teams...two 6'7" athletic pitbulls and then you have DeRozan on the wing.

I am impressed.

Looks like my Knicks will have their hands full when we meet y'all.

Okay. Your Knicks movement dead already?

About to see a ton of dudes all on the bandwagon.

You gotta acknowledge quality when you see it, and like I said, the bulls look good.

Nor did I reply to you.

SMH.

It's 100% possible to have your one squad and still root for other players/teams.

Hell, sometimes it's just a matter of enjoying how a particular team plays. As a Lakers fan, I loved the Kings, unless they were playing the Lakers. That was a great team that played a beautiful brand of basketball.

There are plenty of players and teams I want to succeed, just not over/against the Lakers.

Right now I love the Knicks, Pels, and Bulls, and want to see each of them do well- until they play the Lakers, at which time they can fuck off over the course of 48 minutes plus timeouts and commercial breaks.

But there is a difference. You don’t follow A HUGE RIVAL TEAM

Knicks and Pistons are enemies, forever. Random rooted for the Knicks last year.

And vice versa.

Would you dare root or follow the Celtics?

our enemies list is

Bulls
Celtics
Lakers

Pacers



Heat















everyone else

Jesus. They are enemies of the BULLS.

I never said of each other.

SMH.

and i really cant keep track of who all these people are cheering for at any given time

We know Lonzo is a great team defender, not really a consistent stopper in iso but deadly in passing lanes and good with his anticipation. We know Caruso can genuinely be a stopper on the perimeter on reasonably sized guards. We know Williams will continue to be improve. That's a really nice start.

We also know DeRozan will almost certainly continue to be a bad-to-very-bad defender. And we know Vucevic will be a bad defender in space, although I can't imagine Billy would ever force him to switch, so it probably won't matter in the regular season as much, and he can probably be serviceable (and I think there's a chance Billy could straight up use Williams as a small ball 5 and switch everything at game's end against a lot of teams that may require switching).

So I think the overall regular season defensive ranking could definitely end up Top 10, provided that Zach stays locked in the way he looked this summer. It's going to be a lot harder to lock in like that during a random game against some middling NBA team on a Wednesday night vs. the Olympics, but if he takes that step and pushes to be a borderline All-Defense type of defender (which he absolutely has the physical tools to be), then the Bulls could honestly end up Top 8, maybe Top 6 defensively. The defense isn't really a concern for me.

>We know Lonzo is a great team defender, not really a
>consistent stopper in iso but deadly in passing lanes and good
>with his anticipation. We know Caruso can genuinely be a
>stopper on the perimeter on reasonably sized guards. We know
>Williams will continue to be improve. That's a really nice
>start.

Caruso was a solid defender on the Lakers I wouldn't call him a "stopper" lol

>We also know DeRozan will almost certainly continue to be a
>bad-to-very-bad defender. And we know Vucevic will be a bad
>defender in space, although I can't imagine Billy would ever
>force him to switch, so it probably won't matter in the
>regular season as much, and he can probably be serviceable
>(and I think there's a chance Billy could straight up use
>Williams as a small ball 5 and switch everything at game's end
>against a lot of teams that may require switching).

that's the the thing, a lot of teams in the league play "small ball" more than half the team and don't play a big man on the floor, Vuc will be exposed

>So I think the overall regular season defensive ranking could
>definitely end up Top 10, provided that Zach stays locked in
>the way he looked this summer. It's going to be a lot harder
>to lock in like that during a random game against some
>middling NBA team on a Wednesday night vs. the Olympics, but
>if he takes that step and pushes to be a borderline
>All-Defense type of defender (which he absolutely has the
>physical tools to be), then the Bulls could honestly end up
>Top 8, maybe Top 6 defensively. The defense isn't really a
>concern for me.

I don't know how common it is for someone to go from not really caring about defense to "All-Defense type of defender" in year 7

Shitty organizations, coaches and teammates play a huge role in overall player development or lack thereof. After seven or whatever years in the league Zach finally has proper stability from the top down. I’m like 99.97% positive that will show through in his overall game.

The "Zach is bad on defense" meme was true at the start (and definitely in college) but has faded with time-- and then at the Olympics he was absolutely on one defensively. I expect him to ride that wave, and further improvement should be expected in general given his last season or two. I wasn't saying I necessarily expect him to be All-Defense this season-- I just think he's got a really high ceiling if he continues to grow. He was the best perimeter defender for Team USA at the Olympics this summer. That says a lot about where he can go this year imo.

>Caruso was a solid defender on the Lakers I wouldn't call him
>a "stopper" lol

When you're looking at guard on-ball defenders in the NBA, he's absolutely one of the best. As I said, if he's guarding guards of a reasonable size, I expect him to be one of the best 1v1 defenders in the NBA this year. You can't put him on Giannis or Durant or anything, but if you think an on-ball defender of Caruso's caliber won't have impact on the Bulls... I just flat disagree, lol.

>that's the the thing, a lot of teams in the league play "small
>ball" more than half the team and don't play a big man on the
>floor, Vuc will be exposed

I'm not sure this is true in the regular season. You see a lot of teams play with a center on the floor regular season. Where Vuc will be of significantly decreased value is 4th quarter in playoff games, where, yes, switchability is everything. But that shouldn't be the Bulls' first concern right now. Their first concern should be win enough games to talk about the playoffs-- and continue to bring Patrick Williams along. Because if Williams comes along as he should, then they'll just bench Vuc during any small ball run in the playoff and play Williams at the 5.

not really because i thought they would be great or even good at the start. it was nice to have a fresh start and approach. a lot of young players that i was hoping would develop through the season. it was a rough season though. the trades at the deadline didnt really push them forward. not a lot of development for key young players. towards the end i saw that they werent going anywhere last year and hopefully the offseason would bring the needed change.

i did not expect this much change though. on paper and through the first few preseason games i am excited again. i do expect some struggles and i do think there are areas where they will need to improve (another trade) to be serious contenders. i do think it should be fun to watch for the most part.

definitely think im getting team pass again.

they replaced a lot of ineffective spots on their team and upgraded at numerous positions. so now it's not going to be this awkward Zach, Vucevic island scenario.

Crowder got immediately ejected for do his salsa dance against the Lakers last year is it because he's not as cute and cuddly as Steph

Ole ass lakers gone be FUN!!!

How the mighty have fallen!

Thought last year was painful? This year is going to be “ no country for old men”!

FOCK LAKERS SEASON HAS STARTED.

He shouldn't be playing KD and Harden +25mins in the preseason
Especially with no 'Rie

I thought he made the same mistake last year
Instead of resting guys for the playoffs
He ran Harden into the ground trying to get the 1 seed

I have no faith in BKN.

>He shouldn't be playing KD and Harden +25mins in the
>preseason
>Especially with no 'Rie
>
>I thought he made the same mistake last year
>Instead of resting guys for the playoffs
>He ran Harden into the ground trying to get the 1 seed
>
>I have no faith in BKN.

That makes sense to you?
Only junkyard played more mpg than Harden last year
Dumb.

>That makes sense to you?
>Only junkyard played more mpg than Harden last year
>Dumb.

folks are still sleeping on Wiseman. He may end up being the most important piece behind Steph.

hopefully while his wheels heal he been getting up shots on shots on shots and has a more fluid jumper.

he will eat off of slip screens and oops from dray and steph driving and throwing the lob while everybody else is playing the passing lanes to the shooters parked on the perimeter.

that's lowkey dray's way of scoring, but getting other dudes to score.

but frfr, he better get a fucking serviceable jumper this year (giannis got one, why can't you???). 10 ppg, draymond, that's all we asking for.

wiggins need to just not turn into harrison barnes and i'll be happy. if he do 'last year wiggins' that will be more than enough. but i think he can do more.

best case is like the early days when they were blowing teams out and the bench was playing big minutes. if you got poole (eventually), iggy, wiseman and kuminga and one of the shooters on the court??? there's gonna be so many dunks and fast breaks and they gonna wear out second units.

granted it was preseason, but they were hanging w/ lakers' big 3. that depth (personnel combined w/ their playing style) should end up being a plus against most teams. which gives them minutes, which means kerr can rest stars in season and in key stretches of big games, which has been kind of a hidden superpower.

i'm hyped for the season.

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

still building. he has had far more highlights than i'm accustomed to in preseason.

otto p & bjelly looking like some nice vet min pickups.

even in their dynastic run, dubs second unit was full of cats who would surprise you if they made a 3.

livingston kept it moving w/ the impeccable taper and midrange game, but not a lot of deep balls. just great defense, good ball movement, and more off the drive.

but w/ all these cats (and i'm including an improved damian lee, and assuming JTA did his summer homework and will be better from the arc).

steph avg'd 32 points last year being dead last in spacing for any top scorer. he gonna have space-space-space-space this year.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

Poole is going to get votes for MIP for sure. And Wiggy hitting Js!!!

Its just not going to happen for him in Portland, and we absolutely need to see him in the Finals with somebody. Where does he go from here? As this season plays out, he is going to keep a poker face, but the wheels are turning. Does he team up with Beal and someone else to form a big three somewhere else?

Amare and Joe in their primes and Sarver wouldnt pay them

him and Ayton met at the Sanctuary hotel here and Ayton told reporters there "I just want to be respected. I love Phoenix, but..." which in English means I am fucking out of here.

Dame, Jimmy, Duncan Robinson, Ayton and PJ.

.

Cool.

😬😬😬

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1448727706661789705?s=20

if he's taking (and making) jumpers like this.

thats baaaaad for the rest of our teams

to peaking

And if you do, two steps and he is dunking....from the three point line.

flying dragons.

gollum: 'wraiths with WINGS'??!!??

like, he a big enough problem, now he gonna be even more powerful?

lil' clip i seen had him hitting little midrange joints, step backs, 3s, showing a little handles (after cats clowned him so bad last year for having no bag).

this is a problematic development for the rest of the league.

i like giannis, tho.

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

Bucks fans deserve this

Outside of the work he must have put in, I wonder if winning the championship gave him more confidence to be willing to put that on display without fear of failing or looking badly.

I wouldn't have never seen him being capable to creative his own shot like that based on how stiff and robotic his jumpers were before hand.

I wonder if other players on the Bucks will take notice and improve like he did.

Him improving so drastically will also make things much easier for Middleton since opposing teams will have to do more to contain Giannis in the midrange.

dont be surprised if that whole nucleus is broken up soon and they do a total rebuild with or without Anthony Edwards, everyone will be on the block by christmas if they arent at least 6 or 7 seed status

new ownership new GM...they want to start all the way over.


https://imgur.com/a/GNVuQq4

>everyone will be on the block by christmas if they arent at
>least 6 or 7 seed status

... because if they think they're a 6 or 7 seed in the West right now, they are completely out to lunch, lol.

I know the West is stacked and in no way am I implying that Minnesota will contend for the Western Conference Finals... but a healthy Minnesota team with KAT, Anthony Edwards, and Russell could be something.

They'd have to beat out Portland or New Orleans to get that #7 spot. Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic... lol

>I know the West is stacked and in no way am I implying that
>Minnesota will contend for the Western Conference Finals...
>but a healthy Minnesota team with KAT, Anthony Edwards, and
>Russell could be something.
>
>They'd have to beat out Portland or New Orleans to get that #7
>spot. Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic... lol


Until they tighten that up, I see them hovering around .500 for the most part

my wife doesn’t watch basketball, but knows who he is, unfortunately because of his story with Covid. Yesterday we were watching some older episodes of Ridiculousness and he was on there and his mom and dad were in the audience. At one point, Rob asked KAT if his parents were making him move out cuz he was making money…they flashed to his folks and his mother was shaking her head, no. Then KAT was like, that’s a Dominican mother, you can’t never move out. Me and my wife both teared up. I hope he and his pops are well.

as hell. Westbrook will never change. Preseason is preseason, but it
does give some signs on what a team is going to be.

He can’t go a game without committing stupid TOs, and is useless
off the ball. So that means he has to be the point, which is
stupid.

Lakers’ TO are going to be astronomical.

Preseason is preseason,
>but it
>does give some signs on what a team is going to be.

Did you offer the same critique for the 1-4 Nuggets or the 1-3 Champion Bucks this preseason?

So we think the Bucks are really a .333 winning % team because the pre-season is giving us signs of what they're going to be?

c'mon.

Lakers are about to conduct a monstrous chemistry project, for sure. It's not really fair to judge how good (or bad) this team will be until they've played together for at least 15-20 games. Let's revisit this then. We haven't even seen them playing together at full-strength over the course of a full game yet and you've already got it figured out.


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Jordan
AD
Bron
Bazemore
Westbrook

Does that spell championship, or even a number 3 seed ?

That backcourt will be doo-doo offensively and defensively,
and Jordan at the 5? He was so garbage last year, Nash
went small win Griffin/ Green and even Claxton ate his minutes.

Let’s be honest here.

Name your price, I’m in.

You sure about that?

.

I forget the last time I'd try to bet him something, and he said, "no, sports gambling is dumb, there's so much variance, etc."

I, of course, pointed out that I'm willing to make this bet despite the variance. AD could get hurt. Bron could get hurt. All these things can happen. There's variance in every aspect of every sport. You only use the variance excuse if you don't actually mean what you're saying.

I'm still willing to put money down on a Top 3 seed for the Lakers. Because I know, and we all know, that it's far, far more likely to happen than he's claiming it is.

But he doesn't want to put money where his mouth is. Fair enough. Maybe he doesn't have the money or is saving for something in the real world, away from a sports board. I get that, I've not gambled for those reasons before. If he doesn't want to bet money, I'd do an avatar/OKP sig bet instead. But I'm guessing he won't do that either.

Because he knows he's just talking shit and the Lakers are of course going to be a Top 3 seed this year. Maybe they dip out of the top 3 if AD, Bron, and Russ combine for, like, under 150 games. But I'd still bet on it, cuz that's, like, the only scenario in which it doesn't happen.

You want it to be one way, but it’s another.

Street bets are a waste of time and meaningless in this day and age.

Why would I lay a bet with you, when I can simply lay that same bet
on DraftKings and get paid instantly into my account?

That’s like going out whistling for a yellow cab when I can Uber.

We talked about this already.

I don’t know you. You don’t know me.

And last year I said the lakers were wack and wouldn’t win, and they didn’t,
and I’m saying the same thing this year. It’s a prediction. That’s what people
do when talking about sports.

Stop making all this so trivial.

Any sports book in the world will gladly give you odds if you say "I want to bet the Lakers don't finish Top 3 in the West." Any sports book anywhere. Go take that Uber.

I've made bets on here before. Won and lost. With strangers. They've paid me when I won, I've paid them when I've lost. It's an opportunity for you to win free money from me if you actually believe in your prediction the way I believe in mine. And it's a fun way to engage with members of a message board community.

But you won't take the cab or the Uber. You're scared of getting into a car. It's fine. Everyone sees it.

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>Jordan
>AD
>Bron
>Bazemore
>Westbrook
>
>Does that spell championship, or even a number 3 seed ?

You're not asking DJ and Bazemore (or whoever the starting 2 will be) to do anything but be moderately productive and active for 18-22 minutes per game. DJ is a good fit in LA. Lakers are big and long again - and I think DJ is an upgrade from JaVale -- and that's the only kind of role DJ will need to play.

There are so many interchangeable parts to this Laker team. Malik Monk and Kendrick Nunn (currently injured) could also start. Dwight could start. Melo has started a couple of games in pre-season and has played well. There was talk of Ariza starting before he got injured. Dwight & Rondo come off the bench to provide immediate impact as well. And you've still got THT & Ellington (who could also start) on top of that. They've got about 4 guys coming off the bench who are high-quality 6-men on any team. Even Reaves might be able to give some quality minutes. They've got a lot of quality, interchangeable options.

>That backcourt will be doo-doo offensively and defensively,
>and Jordan at the 5? He was so garbage last year, Nash
>went small win Griffin/ Green and even Claxton ate his
>minutes.

Lakers play a diff. brand of basketball and are big/physical again like they were w/ the '20 Championship squad, but arguably a better version of that. They're built for the playoffs when the game slows down and more half-court sets get run. Formula can work for them - even if it didn't work for the Nets.


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Lakers could put a jersey on shit, and they would still be penciled in to
win a championship.

That is a poorly constructed team and anyone with eyes can
see that.

They have a lot of players with poor IQs and who are streaky at best.

Monk ( was wack with the hornets, streaky shooter)
Jordan ( slow, tires quickly and was never really a rim
protector)
Nunn (Dennis 2.0)
Westbrook ( isn’t clutch, can’t shoot, and doesn’t make teams better)
Bazemore ( journeymen)

This team is wacker than last year’s

it could be 3 guys from the Y out there with them and I'm still betting on them.

Which should be expected with so much personnel change
...but...
That may leave them with too much ground to make up
Utah and Den look like locks for 1&2
LAC, PHX possibly GSW... could finish ahead of them too

No chips won in preseason
But I think it's safe to say it's going to take some time to figure out
...and IMO...
That leaves them out of the top 4 in the WC.

Dude is a motor on both sides of the ball. Bull MGT have my forgiveness
for that bull crap Vucevic desperation trade.

Our backcourt defense has definitely been upgraded, but our interior defense
is still weak as shit. That’s why moving Gafford was a big head scratcher.
Pat Williams is shaping into a solid two way player, but he is no rim
protector at the 4.

The main focus should be to improve our interior defense ASAP.

pretty sure they know we're missing a big, tough interior defender. i expect them to revisit this at the deadline or next offseason.

with Mobley and Allen. The Pacers have Sabonis and Myles.
And Milwaukee has Giannis, Portis, and Lopez.

That has to be addressed immediately, because that’s our main weakness
right now. Teams in our division have the better interior. It could pose a huge
problem.

Bulls will go small a lot to compensate, with a focus on being the faster
team and force teams to go small to keep up.

We should be one of the highest scoring teams in the league this year,
and I project a 5-8 seeding.

But again, after seeing what the bulls did in this offseason, that Vucevic
move was dumb as hell and we lost an outstanding rim protector because
of it.

>Dude is a motor on both sides of the ball. Bull MGT have my
>forgiveness
>for that bull crap Vucevic desperation trade.

Vucevic was the first piece.
Karnisovas and Eversly said as much when they traded for him.
Ball, Caruso & Derozan probably don't sign here w/o LaVine and Vucevic.

to get people to come here. That was Billy Donovan.
Ball and Dorozan don’t come here if Billy isn’t here.
Going after Ball was already in play before getting
Vucevic. That was the plan, because they expected
to get ball befor the trade deadline last season.

Donovan is a guard friendly coach, and all of his systems are
guard heavy. That’s why we have a guard heavy team now.

In hindsight no way would they ship Gafford. He had 4 blocks
today in first half.

For what we gave up, and how our interior defense plummeted,
it was not a good trade....unless he makes a rapid jump in
his defensive ability.

But our offensive fire power may be able to make up for it.

K-E-Y

M-O-U-S-E

Lakers are going to be painful to watch.

Just ask.

Willing to bet it but I know you arent

Caruso - 2 steals ( Kojack! Thanks lakers)!
Williams - 2 steals

We are going to lead the league in steals this year.

Man, Ball’s backcourt defense to stay with his man through screens
is a thing of beauty. Caruso does it to.

Ayo, Ball, Caruso, White, Lavine,
Thomas, Dotson, Green. Billy is going to have his hands full
giving guards minutes. But its a good problem to have.

Jackson killed us from three, our forwards got lost at times trying
to help with covering the paint, leaving Jackson open for 3....

https://twitter.com/nathanmarzion/status/1449177705493192711

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1449811594083373056?s=20

billionaire's generally don't like to be bullied.

We all know that billionaires write checks on whether they want to or not. That's a given, lol. It's also the employee's right to ask the billionaire for what the employee feels is a reasonable, market-value contract. There's a 100% chance Ayton gets a max deal on the open market. So if Sarver wants Ayton, he'll have to pay max. That's not bullying. That's reasonable negotiation. Sarver doesn't have to pay him the max, but he absolutely knows that if he doesn't, Ayton's gone.

And if Sarver wants to remain a title contender, it behooves him to have a content and motivated Ayton. Phoenix unlocked a new gear last season *specifically* when Ayton became a more consistent player on both ends. The center position was also rooooough when Ayton was off the floor, because they had to play Kaminsky and/or Saric. Yes, they brought in McGee in the offseason... but dude's 33, how much can he really provide? They still need Ayton giving it his all 30-32 MPG to contend for a Top 3 seed in the West and a title going forward. Unless there's some other better center option that Sarver can somehow seduce to come to Phoenix... but I've no clue where that comes from.

Sarver's always been a notoriously cheap owner-- but once he coughed up the money to give Chris Paul everything he wanted, it seemed like he was conceding, "okay, I'll pay the luxury tax for the first time in over a decade, because I want to be a title contender for the next couple of years." If they lose Ayton in restricted free agency next season, I... can't imagine that continues.

So then they're paying all that money to CP3... for, like, perennial 5-6 seed status. On some Lillard-era Blazers shit. Woof.

>

Nice little pick-up by LA. He was very productive for the Lakers (before he refused to go to the bubble) - and given the multiple injuries to their guards - at the very least he'll be serviceable in the short-term. Great pick-up.

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Legs was just saying this morning, no way this lasts.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1450496839002714112?s=20

Difference is, of course, Houston was instantly in tank mode without Harden. Philly's probably still a Top 5 seed without Simmons. So they can just sit his ass if he tries to be goofy.

he was practicing with his cel phone in his pocket and when the team would huddle up, he was off to the side by himself with a ball. LOL. So bizarre.

Unfortunately, again, Simmons thinks he has way more power in this situation than he does. You can't pull this shit with an experienced coach, a playoff team regardless of your presence, and the one GM in this league who absolutely gives less of a fuck than any other, lol.

If Simmons thinks he can show up and just fuck around, he won't play-- and he genuinely could keep getting suspended.

in playing for the organization again, so he doesn’t care about court time.

They still have to pay him because he is there. He is basically trying to
force their hand to trade him ASAP.

… he’s doing the exact wrong things. By tanking his own trade value, he’s making Philly that much more inclined to keep suspending him and fining the shit out of him, because they absolutely won’t deal him for peanuts. Woj literally jus tweeted as much.

The more Simmons digs in his heels and acts this way, the less likely he is to be dealt before the deadline. He’s trying to strong-arm guys like Rivers, Morey, and Embiid, lmao. It’s an impressively bad misplay on his part.

https://twitter.com/ericmass_/status/1450497041097019399?s=20

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1450504276749406209?s=20

because he said:

"at this point, i don't care about that, man"

NOT

"at this point, i don't care about that man"

those are two different statements.

cuz his next sentence was “he does whatever he wants”