there are people in here trying to talk football and making good posts but are getting shouted down and chased off by malcontents and professional trolls.

me and you go back a ways as rival fans but I think we've always been mature enough and sane enough to respect the fact that we're people first and foremost. and that neither of us are some sort of physical representation of the program that we've rooted for since we were little kids.

I got O_E telling me that I can't speak on a rape cover-up because he's upset about Maurice Clarett from 2002(!) Like that's some real detached from reality shit. It's been 20 years man, let it go.

Likewise I think at this point we're all pretty familiar with what happened at PSU. It's not relevant to this discussion.