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2746531, Urb bailing on J'ville for USC?|
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Sep-15-21 12:38 PM
Urban Meyer says there's "no chance' he'd leave Jacksonville Jaguars for USC Trojans job
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Scratch Urban Meyer off the list of candidates for the USC football job.
The Jacksonville Jaguars coach said Wednesday that there was "no chance" he'd leave the NFL for that job, which came open when USC fired coach Clay Helton on Monday.
"I'm here and committed to try to build an organization," Meyer said.
Earlier this month Meyer had also said he doesn't miss recruiting.
Meyer is in his first season with the Jaguars after winning three national championships and compiling a 187-32 college coaching record during stints at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and Ohio State. He won two of those titles (2006, 2008) with the Gators, whom he led to a 65-15 record in six seasons. He also led the Buckeyes to the 2014 national title and compiled an 83-9 record in seven seasons in Columbus, Ohio.
Meyer's tenure with the Jaguars has gotten off to a bit of an uneven start. He hired former Iowa strength and conditioning coordinator Chris Doyle, who had reached a separation agreement with Iowa after being accused of making racist comments and belittling players. Doyle resigned the following day.
Meyer also had No. 1 overall pick Trevor Lawrence splitting first-team practice reps with Gardner Minshew throughout the majority of training camp, only naming Lawrence the starting quarterback between the second and third preseason games. Minshew was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles before the start of the season.
The Jaguars looked sloppy in their season-opening 37-21 loss in Houston on Sunday. They had six dropped passes, used two timeouts in the first quarter to avoid delay-of-game penalties, had multiple illegal formation penalties, and also were penalized for having 12 men in the huddle. Lawrence also threw three interceptions.
Meyer dismissed critics of his body language on the sideline during the loss and reiterated that he's committed to turning around a franchise that has lost 10 or more games in nine of the past 10 seasons. He also said he believes the team can win and likes what he has seen in the locker room.
"I don't want to ever fall into that trap of saying, this is four-year plan, three-year plan," Meyer said. "That's not fair to players. This is a one-game plan and then we'll worry about the next game. There's some guys that played a lot of football in that locker room and they deserve our very best, and that's what it is. Other than a bruised soul that we all have right now, we're still swinging away, and like I said, you'd probably see a little different look on my face if I had bad guys. That's not the case at all."
2746532, Mods, change the goddamn title.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Sep-15-21 12:40 PM
Gave the one beleaguered Jaguars fan on the whole fucking board a heart attack, lol.
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Sep-15-21 02:27 PM
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2746536, Wasn’t Saban staying at Miami?|
Posted by calij81, Wed Sep-15-21 01:14 PM
The season is long, let’s see how he feels once his team is 1-10 when December rolls around.
2746538, Yeah I don't really see him making a move midseason|
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Sep-15-21 01:35 PM
2747717, He may not make it to mid season. I knew this would end badly|
Posted by calij81, Thu Oct-07-21 12:21 PM
I figured, like Saban, the losing and lack of total control over players would be too much.
2746543, Its stupid how Meyer and Matt Rhule were immediately named |
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Sep-15-21 02:57 PM
as possible options for USC.
Shit is just lazy.
2746544, RE: Its stupid how Meyer and Matt Rhule were immediately named |
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Sep-15-21 03:41 PM
>as possible options for USC.
>Shit is just lazy.
Urb is a lot more likely than Rhule for multiple reasons
2746550, Meyer coached 1 damn game in the NFL. |
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-16-21 05:32 AM
makes no sense to throw his name out there but they need clicks so its an easy lay up.
2746554, We all know how that story ends. You think he’s going sit through…|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-16-21 07:55 AM
2-3yrs of losing on the Jags with his name popping up a the top of every major college opening?
He’s won in the midwest and the south, the west is the natural progression unless the ND job opens up, or he’s called back to clean up the mess at tOSU which I know some folks are praying for
2746557, shit man you should really stay out of the Urban prediction business|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 09:03 AM
>He’s won in the midwest and the south, the west is the
>natural progression unless the ND job opens up, or he’s
>called back to clean up the mess at tOSU which I know some
>folks are praying for
you've already shown you have no idea what you're talking about and this is simply a continuation of that
there's so much idiocy in this statement i dont even know where to begin lol
2746558, I honestly dont care its just fun to see Suckeye fans still get riled up...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-16-21 09:20 AM
about coach that jilted them 3 years ago and left their program under investigation lol...
>>He’s won in the midwest and the south, the west is the
>>natural progression unless the ND job opens up, or he’s
>>called back to clean up the mess at tOSU which I know some
>>folks are praying for
>you've already shown you have no idea what you're talking
>about and this is simply a continuation of that
>there's so much idiocy in this statement i dont even know
>where to begin lol
2746559, have you had your mental health checked lately?|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 09:37 AM
>about coach that jilted them 3 years ago and left their
>program under investigation lol...
2746572, Lol he lost his marbles a while ago , don’t even bother |
Posted by guru0509, Thu Sep-16-21 02:36 PM
>>about coach that jilted them 3 years ago and left their
>>program under investigation lol...
2746575, RE: Lol he lost his marbles a while ago , don’t even bother |
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-16-21 03:38 PM
2746599, 🥱…I’m 36, I’m not emotional about TOSU football anymore.|
Posted by guru0509, Fri Sep-17-21 11:03 AM
I’ve seen 2 championships and will prob see more after Saban retires
(Basketball program is in shambles bc we can’t get nba talent anymore , only guys like Duane Washington and EJ Liddell)
but there’s no mess at OSU, just a bad defensive coordinator that will get the chop soon
2746631, post jack|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 08:39 AM
did you use that professional message board lunatic/jock sniffer 'nevadabuck' got disassociated from the osu program because he was paying the backup long snapper for info? which got the kid kicked off the team? lollllllllll
2746671, Lmao wowwww|
Posted by guru0509, Sat Sep-18-21 03:08 PM
>did you use that professional message board lunatic/jock
>sniffer 'nevadabuck' got disassociated from the osu program
>because he was paying the backup long snapper for info? which
>got the kid kicked off the team? lollllllllll
his info was spot on , I always wondered how these insiders got info
2746673, Nah he’s been full of shit for years |
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 03:14 PM
2746687, lol damn, yikes.|
Posted by guru0509, Sat Sep-18-21 04:57 PM
2746853, there's more|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Sep-20-21 10:31 PM
2746560, and you think he is going to bail after 1 NFL game? |
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-16-21 10:34 AM
of course anything can happen but the chances are like .00000000001%
2746561, for a far inferior job? that will pay far less money? in a liberal city?|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 10:48 AM
at a university rife with internal conflict and scandal? with a school administration and conference that isn't committed to championship football?
after he's already passed on them (and a far better gig in Texas) before?
it's a weird fantasy.
2746576, of course not genius but after 1 bad season I could see him bouncing...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-16-21 03:41 PM
if the right college job became available
2746547, people are beyond stupid about this, it's hard to believe.|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Sep-15-21 05:44 PM
and for a second time around, no less.
2746551, They’re gonna hire someone who’s connected to the Pete Carroll era |
Posted by guru0509, Thu Sep-16-21 06:54 AM
USC top brass obsessed with reheating 3 day old French fries
2746553, they'd love to but i think that coaching tree has been plucked dry|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 07:45 AM
most people out there don't watch football so they actually think that james franklin is a good coach.
i feel like that's their guy.
2746578, They would be correct|
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Sep-16-21 03:49 PM
>most people out there don't watch football so they actually
>think that james franklin is a good coach.
He is a good coach. Excellent one, even.
2746582, but we know you don't actually watch psu games so it's all good|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 04:45 PM
>>most people out there don't watch football so they actually
>>think that james franklin is a good coach.
>He is a good coach. Excellent one, even.
2746718, I'm listening |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Sep-18-21 10:53 PM
You wrong tho
2746629, I love Franklin the person and think he’s top notch as a program |
Posted by Mignight Maruder, Sat Sep-18-21 08:28 AM
builder and figurehead. He’s an outstanding recruiter as well, which is obviously paramount to success in college football. However, he leaves a bit to be desired when it comes to in-game adjustments, time management, and developing creative game plans, etc. I think the win against Wisconsin was his first road win vs a top 15 team ever. Prior to that, I think he had only 1 road win vs a top 25 team.
Again, as a PSU fan I’m thankful to have a guy like Franklin. I appreciate him more than most PSU fans, but can admit he has blind spots.
2746719, Funny how no one calls the Black coaches "smart" |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Sep-18-21 10:54 PM
Half the shit you described fits Saban's description
Saban barely has shit to do with his offenses, hasn't
for a loooong time
Just cut the shit
Franklin is excellent
O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "
2746733, All the things I credited Franklin for, do require much intelligence. |
Posted by Mignight Maruder, Sun Sep-19-21 09:00 AM
If you want honest, open discourse I’m here. I’m not going to engage further if you don’t bother to read my post, let alone watch the actual games Franklin has coached.
All the things I credited Franklin for do require a great deal of intelligence. To maintain the level of respect and success he has while dealing with lots of racists from central PA is remarkable. Being the figurehead does require a ton of intelligence. He’s not known as a great game manager and his game planning for big games - especially road games - has left a bit to be desired. He’s got blind spots like most other coaches. That’s all I’m pointing out.
Spencer Hall - a well respected CFB analyst and regular on Bomani Jones podcast - has called Franklin overrated and has provided some brutal analysis of Franklin’s coaching blunders.
I coached (at the high school and junior high levels) for many years. I consider myself to be fairly intelligent, but I definitely was not adept at diagnosing plays on the fly and making in game adjustments. I relied more on pregame preparation and in-game motivation. My close friend, who definitely was no more intelligent than me, had a knack for diagnosing mismatches and making in-game adjustments. That was his forte. But he wasn’t as adept at running a team, communicating to parents, organizational structure, etc. Intelligence as it relates to coaching comes in many forms.
As a PSU fan, I’m thankful for Franklin and realize there aren’t more talented coaches walking through the door. As I stated before, I’m happy he’s the coach. Franklin gets a lot of unwarranted hate due to his race. Trust me, I know that as a lifelong resident in south central PA. Still, I’m not going to give him a pass for certain aspects of the job he doesn’t excel at.
2746783, PSU is lucky to have a football program at this point.|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Sep-19-21 04:41 PM
2746824, it's trite, unnecessary asshole shit like this |
Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Sep-20-21 09:35 AM
that discourages people from talking sports here
you started this thread for no other purpose than to troll
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Sep-20-21 09:50 AM
>that discourages people from talking sports here
>you started this thread for no other purpose than to troll
2746862, I’ll let 3x speak for himself, but he’s got a point. How exactly am I |
Posted by Mignight Maruder, Tue Sep-21-21 05:26 AM
to follow up to your comment??
Do I just never speak on PSU football again? Even if I agree, you’ve just effectively railroaded the discussion.
I think I pretty clearly illustrated my point about Franklin above. I could actually provide a lot more analysis, but it’s a waste of keystrokes if certain posters are only concerned with trying to find the worst in others and unwilling to actually engage in discussion.
2746869, I didn't think it needed explanation but yours certainly sufficed|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Sep-21-21 10:16 AM
there are people in here trying to talk football and making good posts but are getting shouted down and chased off by malcontents and professional trolls.
me and you go back a ways as rival fans but I think we've always been mature enough and sane enough to respect the fact that we're people first and foremost. and that neither of us are some sort of physical representation of the program that we've rooted for since we were little kids.
I got O_E telling me that I can't speak on a rape cover-up because he's upset about Maurice Clarett from 2002(!) Like that's some real detached from reality shit. It's been 20 years man, let it go.
Likewise I think at this point we're all pretty familiar with what happened at PSU. It's not relevant to this discussion.
2746898, Stated better than I could. Yeah, we definitely go back. |
Posted by Mignight Maruder, Tue Sep-21-21 03:45 PM
I’m sure I made more than my share of comments to you and others that I’d cringe at now. But that was 10+ years ago and part of the bs sports talk that typically went down here on the regular. I’d like to think most of us have put that behind us long ago and are at place where we at least respect one another’s opinions and can disagree without making unwarranted accusations.
2746914, Ditto, and likewise . Sorry if I ever crossed the line . After Radins death…|
Posted by guru0509, Tue Sep-21-21 10:11 PM
After Radins death …I stopped taking sports so seriously .
>I’m sure I made more than my share of comments to you and
>others that I’d cringe at now. But that was 10+ years ago
>and part of the bs sports talk that typically went down here
>on the regular. I’d like to think most of us have put that
>behind us long ago and are at place where we at least respect
>one another’s opinions and can disagree without making
2746903, WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING!?!?! Are smoking crack???|
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Sep-21-21 04:46 PM
>I got O_E telling me that I can't speak on a rape cover-up
>because he's upset about Maurice Clarett from 2002(!) Like
>that's some real detached from reality shit. It's been 20
>years man, let it go.
O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "
2746871, did I say anything that was untrue?|
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Sep-21-21 10:30 AM
2747813, youre an idiot|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Oct-08-21 05:27 PM
now we're both telling truths, yet still not actually talking about anything, and in fact grinding conversation to a halt just to tell truths that we think the other party night not enjoy
do you get it now?
2746720, awful game manager|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 11:00 PM
>However, he leaves a bit to be desired when it
>comes to in-game adjustments, time management, and developing
>creative game plans, etc.
and recruiting has taken a dip
as for him as a person...the vanderbilt rape situation was pretty gross.
but overall has done a nice job at psu and they could certainly do a lot worse.
2746724, *record scratch* What drugs are you on? |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Sep-19-21 12:40 AM
>>However, he leaves a bit to be desired when it
>>comes to in-game adjustments, time management, and
>>creative game plans, etc.
Standard racial coding here
Black coach is a rah rah guy who doesn't understand the game
This is why he might take the USC job, because he shouldn't
have to deal with racist shit like this
>and recruiting has taken a dip
Dip from what to #1?
>as for him as a person...the vanderbilt rape situation was
Relative to....TOSU? Are you smoking crack?
>but overall has done a nice job at psu and they could
>certainly do a lot worse.
2746732, Yes I’m a racist, awful, and stupid person|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Sep-19-21 08:56 AM
Thank you for contributions to this thread. Enjoy your Sunday.
2746770, Bro you just got caught blatantly lying. I just need some clarity. |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Sep-19-21 03:14 PM
>Thank you for contributions to this thread. Enjoy your
You said his recruiting wasn't good
That's factually wrong, they are having among the best
in the country RIGHT TODAY
As for all that shit about "adjustments"...well yeah,
that's all race
And the Vanderbilt rape shit? TOSU has no authority to
ever speak on shit like that
2746775, No. I've hit my threshold for inane arguments w/mentally ill people|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Sep-19-21 03:48 PM
>And the Vanderbilt rape shit? TOSU has no authority to
>ever speak on shit like that
And this is why you're deranged. I am not 'TOSU'. I am not a university, a football team, or a football coach. You take this shit to an extreme and disturbing level. I represent myself only and I can speak on whatever I damn well please.
You've been following me around and harassing me with this weirdo shit for nearly 20 years now. In threads that have absolutely nothing to do with osu (such as this one). I'm done. Go away. You're not getting any further responses from me.
2746858, Not that serious. I honestly have no beef. But you did just lie. |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Sep-20-21 11:08 PM
>And this is why you're deranged. I am not 'TOSU'. I am not a
>university, a football team, or a football coach. You take
>this shit to an extreme and disturbing level. I represent
>myself only and I can speak on whatever I damn well please.
>You've been following me around and harassing me with this
>weirdo shit for nearly 20 years now. In threads that have
>absolutely nothing to do with osu (such as this one). I'm
>done. Go away. You're not getting any further responses from
But you just got caught openly lying.
I asked for some clarification, and you called me
So I'll go ahead and trot that out to you being wrong
and not being willing to admit it, which is all good
I don't really have a problem with you personally
You did lie, though
2746568, is USC really that good of a CFB job? |
Posted by will_5198, Thu Sep-16-21 02:00 PM
yes there is prestige and an elite recruiting base, but it doesn't strike me as a place where you can get whatever you want to win
most SEC schools and the top programs in other P5 conferences have facilities that blow theirs out of the water
the "living and playing in LA" is so overblown to me; reminds me of when people said Nick Saban would enjoy all the trendy restaurants in Austin more -- these guys have no lives outside football
if yo are already an elite HC, USC only makes sense to me if you have roots on the West Coast
2746570, SC’s previous coaching hires tells you all you need to know|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 02:05 PM
About the desirability of the gig
2746573, I think the living and playing in LA is a bigger draw for recruits|
Posted by calij81, Thu Sep-16-21 02:56 PM
I can see being in LA an advantage with NIL now in place.
But for coaches, living in La isn’t a big draw.
As far as facilities being below SEC/Texas/OSU; I agree with you there but it only takes one big time winning coach to change that. If a coach wins at USC and wants those facilities, he will get them from the donors.
2746574, they don't have the physical space for it. SC is a small campus.|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 03:11 PM
>As far as facilities being below SEC/Texas/OSU; I agree with
>you there but it only takes one big time winning coach to
>change that. If a coach wins at USC and wants those
>facilities, he will get them from the donors.
they redid their football facility a few years ago, it's actually very nice but very small.
their facilities during the carrol years were pretty funny.
2746577, I feel like facilities are to impress a kid to come to a school in the...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-16-21 03:48 PM
middle of nowhere.
>>As far as facilities being below SEC/Texas/OSU; I agree
>>you there but it only takes one big time winning coach to
>>change that. If a coach wins at USC and wants those
>>facilities, he will get them from the donors.
>they redid their football facility a few years ago, it's
>actually very nice but very small.
>their facilities during the carrol years were pretty funny.
Carroll didn't seem to have a problem getting top recruits from all over to come to USC
2746581, i dont think the facilities are that big of a deal to be honest|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Sep-16-21 04:44 PM
you gotta do it cause everyone has it so you need to keep up. but it's not the reason for sc's current struggles.
>Carroll didn't seem to have a problem getting top recruits
>from all over to come to USC
very true but carrol was coaching in a different era and operating with essentially zero institutional oversight. but he was also just a legendary recruiter.
the U was the same way in the early 2000's. laughable facilities but stacked rosters. didn't matter.
2746591, RE: i dont think the facilities are that big of a deal to be honest|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-16-21 11:23 PM
>you gotta do it cause everyone has it so you need to keep up.
>but it's not the reason for sc's current struggles.
>>Carroll didn't seem to have a problem getting top recruits
>>from all over to come to USC
>very true but carrol was coaching in a different era and
>operating with essentially zero institutional oversight. but
>he was also just a legendary recruiter.
>the U was the same way in the early 2000's. laughable
>facilities but stacked rosters. didn't matter.
In cities like Los Angeles and Miami you don't need impressive facilities to get a kid to come there.
2746596, and yet LA/miami kids are fleeing to places like tuscaloosa and clemson|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Sep-17-21 09:41 AM
>In cities like Los Angeles and Miami you don't need impressive
>facilities to get a kid to come there.
there's obviously a lot more to recruiting then proximity to glamour locales.
SC's and miami's advantage is more about being centrally located in fertile recruiting grounds rather than SC being a 30 min drive w/o traffic to beverly hills.
the idea that only rural schools need nice facilities to land recruits doesn't make any logical sense nor is it supported by anything that's happening in recruiting in 2021.
2746600, You need facilities to lure kids to places like Tuscaloosa and Columbus...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Sep-17-21 11:58 AM
>>In cities like Los Angeles and Miami you don't need
>>facilities to get a kid to come there.
>there's obviously a lot more to recruiting then proximity to
>SC's and miami's advantage is more about being centrally
>located in fertile recruiting grounds rather than SC being a
>30 min drive w/o traffic to beverly hills.
>the idea that only rural schools need nice facilities to land
>recruits doesn't make any logical sense nor is it supported by
>anything that's happening in recruiting in 2021.
because without them its just another dry ass college town with nothing to do.
Most kids from SoCal and FL would rather star at schools close to home but local competition pushes them elsewhere.
2746609, yet another inane convo|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Sep-17-21 04:08 PM
top players go where they win games, get maximum exposure, and get sent to the league. none of this other stuff matters.
>because without them its just another dry ass college town
>with nothing to do.
I take it you've never actually been to any of these places.
>Most kids from SoCal and FL would rather star at schools close
>to home but local competition pushes them elsewhere.
so all of the 5 star qb's from LA who are now starting at clemson, bama, and osu left LA because the competition was too stiff at local schools? what are you talking about?
there are a grand total of 3 football programs in LA/Miami and all of them have brand new facilities and all of them have sucked for the majority of this century. living in proximity to a major city is pretty low on the list of requirements for recruits.
2746611, of course because you know everything...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Sep-17-21 05:57 PM
>top players go where they win games, get maximum exposure,
>and get sent to the league. none of this other stuff matters.
>>because without them its just another dry ass college town
>>with nothing to do.
>I take it you've never actually been to any of these places.
>>Most kids from SoCal and FL would rather star at schools
>>to home but local competition pushes them elsewhere.
>so all of the 5 star qb's from LA who are now starting at
>clemson, bama, and osu left LA because the competition was too
>stiff at local schools? what are you talking about?
>there are a grand total of 3 football programs in LA/Miami and
>all of them have brand new facilities and all of them have
>sucked for the majority of this century. living in proximity
>to a major city is pretty low on the list of requirements for
Is Miami the only college program in Florida? Is USC the only program in California?
2746612, Of the Top 25 recruits in 2021 from Florida, only 7 stayed.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Sep-17-21 06:20 PM
18 of the top 25 left, including 7 of the top 10. A combined 10 of the top 25 recruits from Florida went to Clemson and Alabama. Only 3 players in Florida's Top 25 chose a school that wasn't Miami, so they weren't dodging Miami due to in-state competition.
13 of the Top 25 from California stayed in state, so better retention there, and 10 of them did choose USC... but that means of the 12 recruits USC missed on, only 3 were from in-state competition. And of the Top 10 recruits in California, the creme de la creme, only 4 chose to stay in-state (and they all went to USC, none went to other in-state competition.
2746613, The Florida schools are down right now, what were stats 10 years ago?|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Sep-17-21 07:39 PM
2746618, You mean when the current HS recruits were 6 and 7 years old?|
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Sep-17-21 09:01 PM
You said the reason traditional powerhouses like USC and Miami are losing recruits is because they face in-state competition. But they're not. They're losing recruits to out-of-state competition.
In 2020, two of the top 20 recruits in California stayed in-state. 9 of the top 20 in Florida stayed in-state (only 3 of the top 10).
In 2019, four of the top 20 recruits in California stayed in-state. 8 of the top 20 in Florida stayed in-state (only 4 of the top 10).
In 2018, nine of the top 20 recruits in California stayed in-state. 7 of the top 20 in Florida stayed in-state (only 1 of the top 10).
Like... this isn't a brand new trend. And yes, when the big California and Florida power schools were great, the recruiting in-state was better. But that's the whole point, really-- we can say "kids want to play in these beautiful states!" all we want, but end of the day, what most of the top recruits really give the biggest shit about is playing for a successful program.
2746619, NIL has the entire NCAA upside down, not sure why you're trying to be...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Sep-17-21 10:42 PM
in a football argument but I know why.
But you're right schools don't compete for in state recruits.
2746620, I mean, you said something that seemed wrong. So I checked.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Sep-18-21 01:27 AM
And I thought I'd provide facts for interested parties. Yes, schools compete with other in-state schools-- no one really said otherwise. But, and far more to the point, when it comes to the most important recruits, they compete with the elite out-of-state schools. Miami isn't missing on recruits because of Florida and FSU. They're missing out on recruits because of Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, etc.
I actually think NIL has a pretty good chance of *helping* many schools keep their elite recruits in-state, because I think there's potentially higher market value and visibility if, say, the best Arkansas HS player becomes the face of Arkansas football rather than another guy waiting his turn to shine at Alabama. But you're right that we don't really have any clue. There's also a decent shot random universities with some billionaire attached suddenly get a couple of program-changing recruits just based on the new and creative options colleges have for bag dropping. It's a whole new ballgame in a lot of ways.
2746622, and most kids want to stay somewhat near home for a variety of reasons|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 02:33 AM
>, but end of the day, what most of the top
>recruits really give the biggest shit about is playing for a
2746623, Arizona and Washington are getting raided too|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 02:35 AM
pac 12 has a lot of issues
2746621, i dont know everything, just more than you. which isn't saying much.|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 02:30 AM
since you get literally everything wrong.
>Is Miami the only college program in Florida? Is USC the only
>program in California?
"In cities like Los Angeles and Miami you don't need impressive facilities to get a kid to come there."
these were your exact words. what are the other major cities in florida and california that have major football programs? Tallahassee? Gainesville? these are the cosmopolitan cities that 17 year old high school football players are dying to live in above all else?
2746625, The original point before this convo went way off the rails was that..|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Sep-18-21 08:13 AM
"facilities" weren't as important to pull in top recruits at schools like USC and Miami.
I thought most people here agreed with that.
Somehow it turned personal then with random people jumping in with random info and I remembered that I don't really care about CFB enough to be doing all this typing.
I think Urban will be a failure in Jacksonville and he will have his pick of whatever top college is available when he is ready to leave. People that have studied this man's life for years know way more about that than I do.
2746630, RE: The original point before this convo went way off the rails was that..|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 08:35 AM
>"facilities" weren't as important to pull in top recruits at
>schools like USC and Miami.
>I thought most people here agreed with that.
they agreed with that but not the 'only rural schools need nice facilities' part
Oregon started the whole lavish facilities thing back in like 2006 which posed a big edge for them at the time. but then every other school in america copied and built nice facilities of their own so it kinda became a non issue.
>Somehow it turned personal then with random people jumping in
>with random info
LOL. frank's been posting here for like 48 years I think he's entitled to jump in as he pleases. and his info was 100% pertinent to the discussion. west coast kids leaving the region is an interesting discussion, IMO.
I agree that urban's career in jacksonville will be a short one.
2746642, 😂 |
Posted by guru0509, Sat Sep-18-21 12:24 PM
>LOL. frank's been posting here for like 48 years I think he's
>entitled to jump in as he pleases
Nah , you gotta check in with the residential OkSports Hall Monitor before posting
2746647, Suckeye fans are in here MAD because Oregon put their foot in their ass...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Sep-18-21 12:55 PM
and they're desperate to talk about anything but that lol.
2746652, why would we talk about OSU and Oregon in a post about Urban / USC|
Posted by guru0509, Sat Sep-18-21 01:06 PM
We talked about it in the college football thread.
Make yourself useful and do an Asiatic Warrior Watch post, there are quite a few good ones this year.
2746653, is this your way of admitting defeat? |
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Sep-18-21 01:06 PM
I enjoy seeing the buckeyes lose but why would you think they were avoiding it when the topic was questioning if Meyer would leave for USC?
2746656, again I don't really care about CFB that much these days...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Sep-18-21 01:23 PM
>I enjoy seeing the buckeyes lose but why would you think they
>were avoiding it when the topic was questioning if Meyer would
>leave for USC?
the OP was focused on Urb's NFL status but whenever he's in the convo the osu faithful feel the need to run in and offer their opinion lol
2746662, you made a post about Meyer going to USC|
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Sep-18-21 01:55 PM
what did you expect?
2746664, you sure have a lot to say for a guy who doesn't care|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 02:06 PM
>the OP was focused on Urb's NFL status
'SC' is in the freakin thread title.
it's like you're seeking new and inventive ways to be loud, mad, and wrong.
>but whenever he's in
>the convo the osu faithful feel the need to run in and offer
>their opinion lol
so frank isn't allowed to comment with relevant info to the discussion, OSU fans aren't allowed to comment on your threads...what exactly is the point of you posting in the first place? maybe add a disclaimer to the bottom of your threads on who and what people can comment on so as not to hurt your juvenile ego?
you post a steady stream factually incorrect info, get mad when called out for being an idiot and then cop pleas about how you dont care about the topic at hand...yet cared enough to start a thread on it and probably 100+ threads on urban over the years. if there is anyone who is obsessed with urban and osu, it's you.
2746683, okayplayer. n/m|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Sep-18-21 04:22 PM
Posted by guru0509, Sat Sep-18-21 04:56 PM
2746665, it's called deflection|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 02:09 PM
calling osu the 'suckeyes' is really hurtful though! like how old is this dude?
2746635, urban's coffee table|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Sep-18-21 11:25 AM
2746650, Predicting where top recruits end up (ESPN+)|
Posted by guru0509, Sat Sep-18-21 01:01 PM
(just wanted contribute something meaningful to this post since Ruth wants to just argue for the sake of arguing)
The college football season is well underway, and we are inching closer to the early signing period in December. It's only three months away, which means we will start to see a few more commitments from top prospects.
As official visits take place to see the game atmosphere on different campuses, recruits will start to have enough information to pick a school, and we are going to see three ESPN 300 recruits make their commitments over the next three to four weeks.
In this week's notebook, we will take a look at those announcements and predict where each recruit will go. We will also look at a top-15 recruit taking visits, the recruiting impact from USC firing Clay Helton, which teams helped themselves in recruiting this past weekend and some top performances from transfers and freshmen.
This isn't a comprehensive list of who will commit over the next few weeks, but these ESPN 300 recruits have already announced publicly when they will be making their commitment. Here's where we see them going.
RB George Pettaway
5-foot-11, 175 pounds
ESPN 300 rank: 106
Top choices: Florida, North Carolina, Oregon, Penn State
Pettaway is announcing his commitment on Sept. 22 at 6:30 p.m. ET. He released his top four of Florida, North Carolina, Penn State and Oregon in August, cutting it down from 10. Pettaway had taken visits to Michigan, North Carolina, Florida, Penn State and a few others in June, and is now ready to make his decision.
He's the No. 8 running back in the class and had offers from some of the biggest programs in the country. Looking at some of the classes from the schools in his top list, Penn State already has two ESPN 300 running backs committed in Kaytron Allen and Nicholas Singleton, Florida has ESPN 300 running back Terrance Gibbs, North Carolina has ESPN 300 running back Omarion Hampton committed, while Oregon does not yet have a top-300 commit at the position.
From those four, it seems as though North Carolina has the upper hand given his relationship with the coaches, and the Tar Heels could be in good position to land his commitment next week.
The pick: North Carolina
OT Elijah Pritchett
6-foot-6, 280 pounds
ESPN 300 rank: 103
Top choices: Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, USC
2022 recruiting class rankings: Texas surges past Georgia, Ohio State into top five
What went wrong for Clay Helton at USC
College football recruiting notebook: Big weekends for Ohio State and Michigan, NIL reaction and more
Pritchett is massive tackle from Georgia, who initially had a top eight of Alabama, Arkansas, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Kentucky, USC and Virginia Tech back in April, but recently cut it down to four.
Considering USC is in his top list and the Trojans just fired Helton, it doesn't seem likely he'll pick the Trojans. Even though he is from Georgia, there is a level of comfort and familiarity with Florida State.
Of the visits he took this summer, he took three trips to Florida State. He worked out at their big man camp and has seen quite a bit of campus. He is announcing his decision on Sept. 28, and if he chooses the Seminoles, he would give Florida State two ESPN 300 offensive linemen in the class, four ranked as four-stars.
The pick: Florida State
TE Jaleel Skinner
6-foot-5, 210 pounds
Greer, South Carolina
ESPN 300 rank: 64
Top choices: Alabama, Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Texas
Skinner is the top-rated tight end in this class and a top-100 recruit. He released his top five after taking visits to some of his top schools in June. He went to Miami, Alabama and Texas, among a few others, then took his official visit to Florida State in the beginning of September.
Skinner will still take visits to Florida this weekend, Texas on Sept. 25 and Clemson on Oct. 2. He's going to announce his commitment on Oct. 9, so this one might be a little more difficult to predict. The Longhorns are making a push, but this could change over the next few weeks.
The pick: Texas
Arch Manning's busy October
Arch Manning is the No. 2 prospect and the top quarterback in the 2023 class. The son of Cooper Manning, and the nephew of Peyton and Eli, he has garnered quite a bit of attention from his ability on the field.
According to Cooper, Arch will be getting out on the road and taking visits over the next few weeks.
He will visit Georgia this weekend for the South Carolina game, Alabama on Oct. 2 when the Crimson Tide play Ole Miss, then Texas on Oct. 16 when the Longhorns play Oklahoma State.
Arch will also be on hand at Ole Miss on Oct. 23 to see his uncle, Eli, get his jersey retired and watch the game against LSU. Cooper said his son will also likely visit Clemson on Oct. 30 for the Florida State game.
He has a busy next few months, which will likely help shape his eventual college choice.
Jaheim Singletary's visits
Cornerback Jaheim Singletary is one of the top uncommitted recruits left in the 2022 class after decommitting from Ohio State in the beginning of August. He's the No. 14 ranked recruit overall and a 6-foot-1, 175-pound corner from Jacksonville, Florida.
Cornerback Jaheim Singletary, the No. 14-ranked prospect in the Class of 2022, decommitted from Ohio State during the summer. ThreeStep
Singletary is one of the more highly sought-after defensive backs given his size and ability and has offers from nearly every major program. He is getting back out to campuses to take visits and will start this weekend with a trip to Florida for the Alabama game. The top-20 prospect will then visit Georgia for its game against Arkansas on Oct. 2.
He recently tweeted that he thinks he has narrowed down his list and he will soon release his top schools. Florida and Georgia would seemingly make that list with Miami as a potential add as well.
Who helped themselves in recruiting this week?
Oregon went to Columbus, Ohio, and beat a top-three-ranked Ohio State team on the road. It was an impressive win, considering the Ducks were short a few defensive starters, including defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux and linebacker Justin Flowe. The results of the game were talked about prominently nationally and Oregon has already built up quite the recruiting buzz over the past few years under coach Mario Cristobal.
Just because it was a road game doesn't mean it didn't have an impact on recruits. In fact, Oregon safety Marko Vidackovic reportedly walked by a group of prospects visiting Ohio State and said, "You boys better come to Oregon," according to Jarrid Denney.
The Ducks already have the No. 5 ranked class in 2022 with 11 ESPN 300 commitments. A win like that against a top-ranked team can only help push the success even further ahead. The Ducks have quite a few of their targets already committed, so where this could really help is in the 2023 class, as Oregon doesn't yet have any commitments in that class.
Another team that helped themselves in a national game was Michigan, which convincingly beat Washington under the lights in Ann Arbor. The Wolverines had some huge visitors on campus, and by all accounts, they came away impressed.
The No. 1-ranked recruit, Walter Nolen, was the biggest name who was on campus, joined by offensive lineman Josh Conerly Jr. and USC defensive back commit Domani Jackson, who made the trip from California.
Jackson has formed a friendship with current Michigan corner commit William Johnson, and with USC firing Helton, the visit to Michigan couldn't have happened at a better time.
The Wolverines could use help in the secondary, and if the coaches can sign both Johnson and Jackson in this class, it would immediately boost the defense.
USC recruiting impact
Speaking of USC, firing Helton in September is likely going to have an impact on this recruiting class. There isn't much time left until the early signing period and there isn't a clear direction yet as to who will be the next head coach full-time.
That likely won't happen until after the season. For now, USC assistant Donte Williams is taking over as interim coach. Williams is one of USC's best recruiters, but without having the permanent job, it will be tough to keep things intact.
The Trojans have five ESPN 300 commitments and only one from California. Jackson is the lone in-state top-300 recruit, and as mentioned above, he just took a visit to Michigan. Losing him would be a big blow to the Trojans' recruiting efforts, as he is widely regarded as one of the best corners in the class.
His father, Randy, however said they plan on waiting to see what happens before making any decisions one way or another.
Donte Williams, one of USC's top recruiters, took over as USC's interim head coach following the firing of Clay Helton. John McGillen/University of Southern California Athletics via AP
"We're actually going to see who they bring on. It just happened , so I haven't really had any communication with the USC staff as of today to see where they're at," Randy said. "Donte was our main contact as his recruiter, so that's usually who we talk to 100% of the time. I know he's a little more busy today. It just depends: Is it going to be a coach that comes in and cleans house? That will have one impact for the coach to come in, is he going to retain Donte. I don't know. It's yet to be seen."
Jackson took his visit to Michigan and he's also planning to visit Alabama on Nov. 6 for the game against LSU.
The family plans to wait, but Jackson's father says the timing is going to have to line up. Jackson is planning to sign in December and enroll in January, so they can't wait forever for USC to make a decision.
Quarterback commit Devin Brown, from Utah, said he will stay in the class, and because adding quarterback depth will always be important, keeping him in this class will be a main focus.
The good news for the next head coach, whenever that person is hired, is that the NCAA has a rule that allows recruits to take a second official visit if a coach leaves that school. That could provide helpful this year given many recruits took official visits in June when the restrictions amid the NCAA's dead period were lifted from COVID-19.
The new coach having the ability to bring recruits back to campus that have already taken officials, without having to pay out of pocket, could end up being an important detail.
There haven't been any big decommitments yet, but with ESPN 300 commits from Georgia, New Jersey, Utah and Nevada, plus one from California already looking around, it is going to take a lot of work to keep the class together.
2746794, Given USC just settled a sexual harassment suit for over $1B...|
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Sun Sep-19-21 06:35 PM
Given USC just settled a sexual harassment suit for over $1B, there's no way they hire Urb with his baggage.
Granted, what happened with the case was related to the Medical department. But the President was fired and they brought in someone to clean up the mess. She's not gonna be on board with hiring someone who left chaos behind at every stop.
2746800, Broncos DT Dre' Mont Jones has some choice words about Urban Meyer|
Posted by guru0509, Sun Sep-19-21 07:01 PM
Urban Meyer’s tenure as the Jacksonville Jaguars’ head coach is off to a rocky start, to say the least. Not only did the Jaguars look hapless in a 37-21 loss to division-foe Houston in Week 1, but reports broke prior to the game painting a negative culture created by Meyer behind the scenes.
According to CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora, Meyer hasn’t exactly excelled in his jump to the professional ranks. Sources told La Canfora that Meyer lashed out after preseason losses and hasn’t quite grasped how to manage the day-to-day NFL operations, causing him to clash with veteran coaches and players.
Dre’Mont Jones, a former player under Meyer at Ohio State and current Denver Broncos defensive lineman, was asked Thursday about the alleged turmoil in Jacksonville.
“Am I surprised by it? No,” Jones said. “I just know how he is. I’m not going into great detail about it. But, like, it doesn’t surprise me.”
The Broncos travel to play the Jaguars at 1 p.m. ET Sunday. Jones signed with Ohio State in 2015 out of St. Ignatius High School in Cleveland, Ohio. The 247Sports Composite ranked him as the No. 133 player nationally, No. 10 strong-side defensive end and No. 6 overall prospect in the state of Ohio.
Jones played under Meyer from 2015-18, making an immediate impact as a redshirt freshman by starting in 12 games. He finished his career with 115 tackles, 22 for a loss and 9.5 sacks, 8.5 of which came in his junior campaign.
In June, Jones joined Denver teammate Shelby Harris on Shel-Shocked Harris’ weekly podcast hosted on 94.1 FM. Harris asked Jones how he thought Meyer’s coaching style would translate to the NFL.
“NFL coach wise, he’s going to have to shake things up to how he was doing,” Jones said. “How he coached us was, he didn’t really f--- with you if you weren’t like a player. If you weren’t playing, those conversations didn’t exist. Like I was a four-star recruit. This man was out here hyping my head up to, ‘Bruh, I don’t even know you.’ Like we’d walk past in the hallway and I’d say ‘How you doing coach?’ This man looked at me like I was crazy for speaking to him and just keep walking. He showed zero respect. Zero respect.
“I’m like, this the type of dude you are? As things go on I’m starting to learn more. Every time he talks to you, it feels like it was his first time talking to you. It’s like he didn’t remember having a conversation with you.”
Jones said that, while star players like Joey and Nick Bosa and Ohio State’s quarterbacks were treated like “kings and gods,” the rest of the players had to fight to be acknowledged.
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“This man ridiculed you, dogged you. He’d do it in front of the team so bad he’d make you want to quit.” Jones said.
2747229, Urban just traded away their 2020 top ten pick|
Posted by will_5198, Mon Sep-27-21 12:58 PM
for a third rounder and a TE who has averaged 150 receiving yards per season the last four years he's been active
Henderson seems like he might be poorly adjusted to be traded like that, but the return is horrible on paper
if TE is such a weakness, maybe Urban shouldn't have wasted workouts and camp time on Tebow
the fact Urban has GM power is insane
2747463, urban taking these losses hard lol|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Oct-02-21 07:22 PM
2747465, Shelley won't be pleased|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Oct-02-21 07:51 PM
2747468, she had tweeted pictures that evening |
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sat Oct-02-21 09:36 PM
of her babysitting the grandkids haha
2747470, Yeah that part got me 😂|
Posted by dillinjah, Sat Oct-02-21 10:23 PM
>of her babysitting the grandkids haha
2747469, lol get it Urb|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Oct-02-21 09:42 PM
2747482, did he not do this at previous stops?|
Posted by will_5198, Sun Oct-03-21 02:15 PM
weird to get caught this late in his coaching career
or is the pain of the NFL just that great
2747485, urban and his wife are just enormous targets at this point|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Oct-03-21 02:33 PM
the fact that he was doing it at his own restaurant just adds to the hilarity factor
2747511, LOL...what? Everyone famous is a "target," big guy|
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Oct-03-21 07:19 PM
He's just an imbecile and a giant hypocrite
But he's always been that
2747518, yo I've already made it clear I dont want to communicate w/you on here|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Oct-03-21 11:15 PM
exercise some self control and stop following me around
2747531, All love....just apologize for lying, we good. |
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Oct-04-21 09:51 AM
No hard feelings, just slide me that apology chief
2747515, She makes anti mask and anti vaccine posts. She deserves the target.|
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Oct-03-21 10:29 PM
2747519, yes hence why i said she's a target|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Oct-03-21 11:17 PM
her twitter antics have been discussed here previously
2747524, a proud representative of THE Ohio State School of Nursing smh|
Posted by guru0509, Mon Oct-04-21 08:06 AM
I hope I am never treated by an Ohio State nurse as long as I live.
2747583, They sound horrible|
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-05-21 11:19 AM
which makes perfect sense for that school.. lol
2747597, lol she was a FACULTY member smfh|
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 02:01 PM
>which makes perfect sense for that school.. lol
just don't talk greasy about the engineering program and we'er good
2747679, you think she actually taught though?|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Wed Oct-06-21 03:08 PM
giving her some fake title for a no show job seems like something they'd just throw in as part of urban's contract.
not that it makes her views on these issues any less abhorrent but not sure it makes every other OSU medical professional an incompetent horror show by default
2747695, I'm mainly talking abt medical "professionals" with her views re: covid|
Posted by guru0509, Wed Oct-06-21 09:51 PM
i should have clarified.
>giving her some fake title for a no show job seems like
>something they'd just throw in as part of urban's contract.
>not that it makes her views on these issues any less abhorrent
>but not sure it makes every other OSU medical professional an
>incompetent horror show by default
yea im just talking about all those nurses who doubt the seriousness of COVID and are anti mask'its just the flu' etc , and I'm sure there's a few of those in Columbus/ the Midwest.
2747705, RE: I'm mainly talking abt medical "professionals" with her views re: covid|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-07-21 08:00 AM
>yea im just talking about all those nurses who doubt the
>seriousness of COVID and are anti mask'its just the flu' etc ,
>and I'm sure there's a few of those in Columbus/ the Midwest.
those people are everywhere...
2747707, You’re right …nm|
Posted by guru0509, Thu Oct-07-21 09:11 AM
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Tue Oct-05-21 12:16 PM
2747580, he cancelled the regular team meeting yesterday|
Posted by will_5198, Tue Oct-05-21 11:09 AM
because he didn't want to face his own players
2747582, damn.. he may not make it thru the bye week|
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-05-21 11:18 AM
I wonder if he did this shit on purpose
2747585, "Lapdances are the new bad heart condition." - Urban Meyer|
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Tue Oct-05-21 12:27 PM
"Also i'm leaving for USC."
2747591, A young woman was dancing close to his lap.|
Posted by Ceej, Tue Oct-05-21 01:11 PM
ESPN channeling Simone Biles to not type Lapdance on the scroll.
2747595, if you think he is the USC head coach in 22-23 reply here with Y or N|
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 01:58 PM
at the end of the season we can see how accurate we were
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 01:59 PM
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Oct-05-21 02:13 PM
Posted by dillinjah, Tue Oct-05-21 02:31 PM
2747604, N...he should have taken that blank check that Texas handed him|
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Oct-05-21 02:56 PM
2747606, nope. should've just stayed in the studio.|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Oct-05-21 03:05 PM
it's abundantly clear that this guy isn't fit to coach anywhere.
you saw the demise in his coaching abilities towards the end of his run at osu.
the idea that he'd want to go to sc or that sc would even want or be willing to pay him has never made any sense to me.
2747607, oh, no question...|
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Oct-05-21 03:06 PM
but, as far as from his standpoint of maximizing whatever bells his name still rang. ..
2747608, if coaching college was what he wanted to do|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Oct-05-21 03:27 PM
then yeah texas that was THE opportunity for him.
but that ship has sailed.
2747609, i firmly believe theres no way he ends coachign career on a sour note|
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 03:27 PM
>but, as far as from his standpoint of maximizing whatever
>bells his name still rang. ..
maybe not USC
but a second-tier program will come calling and he will take them back to being competitive, and then ride off towards another school...
2747611, I feel you on the sour note thing|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Oct-05-21 04:12 PM
but why would any university hire urban when they can't even be certain that he'll be able to finish ONE season without quitting due to mental/physical collapse/scandal?
and given the above, how does he recruit?
he can't represent a university and he's not a good enough to coach in the NFL. that doesn't leave him with a lot of options.
he needs about 3 years out of the public eye and then a return back to the studio.
2747616, He would never come and the Cal administration would never hire him|
Posted by calij81, Tue Oct-05-21 04:56 PM
But I would take 1-2 years of Urban coaching at Cal in a heart beat. This is of course fantasy land and will never happen for multiple reasons.
2747621, Yea good point(s)|
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 06:04 PM
This would be the wise course of action....
>he needs about 3 years out of the public eye and then a return
>back to the studio.
2747734, He’s won multiple chip at big schools.|
Posted by tariqhu, Thu Oct-07-21 02:49 PM
Failing at the pro level isn’t huge because of his success beforehand. His name is still strong in college circles. He’d be hired a heartbeat.
2747822, there's 100+ schools so someone would be dumb enough to hire him|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Oct-08-21 08:15 PM
but this assumes he actually wants to coach college again (evidence suggests otherwise) and that he'd settle for any gig. he voluntarily left osu and turned down texas. these are the 2 best jobs in cfb. he's expressed zero interest in SC and vice versa, and helton has been on the hot seat forever. so what job is he holding out for?
from a football perspective i think hiring him is dumb because his strength as a coach was as a recruiter who built more talented rosters than everyone else. you can't recruit at an elite level when you can't guarantee recruits and parents that you'll be able to last through even one season. and you can't recruit when your reputation as a person is tarnished.
he's not an X's and O's guy and he's running an antiquated offensive system that no longer works at the elite college level. this will also effect his ability to recruit because what 5 star qb would want to sign up to run the ball 20 times per game?
he built an historically good staff at UF but his hiring decisions at his last two stops have been dreadful. he has blind spots when it comes to coaching hires that aren't going away.
Despite the obvious character flaws people think they're getting Urban the football coach from 2006 when he's clearly a shell of his former self in that regard.
I always thought he would do a barry alvarez deal at OSU and fill in as interim HC whenever needed but I think even that ship has sailed.
2747610, he was probably cheering gleefully for Cincinnati last weekend lol|
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Oct-05-21 03:44 PM
2747615, Yes, for the same reason he was fingering that blonde girl |
Posted by calij81, Tue Oct-05-21 04:54 PM
His ego is hurt and doesn’t like losing because he doesn’t feel in control when he is losing. The best way to cure a bruised ego is to win. He won’t want to end his career on a down note. He will want to end his career as a winner.
It’s the same reason that Saban left Miami for Alabama. Urban will go to SC because he can easily recruit there and win right away. He may only coach at SC for 4 or 5 years but that will be enough to win multiple Pac 12 titles, go to some CFB playoffs and maybe win another championship.
2747681, not a chance. Carol Folt aint signing off on that.|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Oct-06-21 04:19 PM
Posted by soulfunk, Thu Oct-07-21 09:05 AM
He needs to just get back into the studio and chill.
2747603, Have to give Truth props on this one|
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Oct-05-21 02:51 PM
even though I doubt he goes to USC it does feel like he may dip due to this "controversy"
2747618, I believe and said in reply 3 that Urban doesn’t finish this season|
Posted by calij81, Tue Oct-05-21 05:23 PM
Urban doesn’t like to lose and handles losing poorly. He might be winless going into December.
2747671, I knew he was trash|
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Oct-06-21 01:23 PM
and out of touch with the whole Tebow camp shit
but this dude is on some weird shit.
He may not make it to the bye week.
I imagine the players are joking the shit out of him and he isn’t used to Black players talking shit to him.
2747617, Whats the issue here?|
Posted by Cenario, Tue Oct-05-21 05:01 PM
2747623, nothing, it's completely normal and we are outraged over nothing|
Posted by will_5198, Tue Oct-05-21 07:04 PM
*thumbs up reply*
2747642, Lol , still dense as ever |
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 10:09 PM
>*thumbs up reply*
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Oct-06-21 01:17 PM
2747677, I dont get|
Posted by Cenario, Wed Oct-06-21 02:35 PM
My sarcasm meter is off🤷🏽♂️
2747624, hold up, I just saw that second angle with the finger thing|
Posted by will_5198, Tue Oct-05-21 07:05 PM
2747626, Dude is used to giving the finger and not getting it|
Posted by calij81, Tue Oct-05-21 07:10 PM
The NFL is giving him the finger so he has to finger that girl in order to try to regain some sort of control and show he was still in charge.
He may not make it to thanksgiving.
2747641, what a trashball. i love that hes wearing OSU gear too.|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Oct-05-21 10:06 PM
like he had to make sure everyone recognized him
2747644, Internet sleuths found out he did a photoshoot w blondie in July |
Posted by guru0509, Tue Oct-05-21 10:11 PM
The second Shelley went to talk to him he probably did his signature *bending over and wince in pain* stance
>like he had to make sure everyone recognized him
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Oct-06-21 04:59 PM
2747680, The only job he would bolt for is Notre Dame.|
Posted by allStah, Wed Oct-06-21 04:10 PM
That's it. That's his dream job.
2747683, This just confirmed that he is going to SC|
Posted by calij81, Wed Oct-06-21 06:32 PM
2747694, He said Utah was a "lifelong career job" when he left Bowling Green |
Posted by guru0509, Wed Oct-06-21 09:47 PM
Florida was a "dream job" when he was in Utah
Ohio State was IT, no more coaching after that. "That's the pinnacle of coaching" when his health issues suddenly evaporated after ditching Florida and he had a year off before Braxton Miller fell in his hands instead of a Jeff Driskel
>That's it. That's his dream job.
lol oh, you poor naive child. any job where he gets to flex his authority and bend the rules is his dream job.
2747710, Urb: the best job is the next job|
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Oct-07-21 10:47 AM
2747720, this was the key thing that i had a lil unique perspective into|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Oct-07-21 12:36 PM
>Braxton Miller fell in his hands instead of a Jeff Driskel
tl;dr: Meyer put all of his eggs in the wrong QB basket, then ended up with them all over his face.
it wasnt Jeff Driskel tho. it was John David Brantley, who played for a small Catholic school in Ocala that beat up on small public schools. he was a big fish in a tiny pond, and a Gator legacy, and clearly not the guy.
so in 2008 Meyer goes all in on Trey Burton of Venice HS, current TE for the Colts, as his next veer option savior. Burton committed in 2008 before his Jr year, and summer of 2008 is when I moved to Port Charlotte, about 25 minutes from Venice. hearing about this local wonderkind my ex and i rode out to see him play one night.
he was NOT good, just full grown already. Dri Archer, a 5'7 fireball and future consensus AA at Kent State was the spark for everything they did. i watched them on TV a few more times and it was more of the same. incidentally Archer went on to beat Denard in the 100m state finals and did a 4.26(!) 40 at the combine.
in 2009 without Archer, Venice was meh. Burton racked up a bunch of short yardage TD runs and decently efficient passing against a usually loaded box. to me, he was a poor man's Jermaine Gonzales (OLSM) with more power in his running.
Jordan Reed had already been moved to TE, so in 2010 UF went out there with Brantley, Burton, and....nobody else. Two major misses at QB. Meanwhile, people in Florida are starting to wonder why Denard isnt around.
Season goes along terribly, Denard becomes the first 2500/1500 QB in NCAA history while Brantley and Burton flounder, and voila. He needs to spend time with his family because of blah blah blah.
2747728, maaan i wouldve loved to see Denard play for Urban|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-07-21 02:19 PM
that wouldve been lit
2747730, i assume the criminality in the program wouldve caught up eventually|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Oct-07-21 02:26 PM
but he definitely would have kept Urban around for a while longer
2747753, Imagine if Cam never stole the laptop….|
Posted by guru0509, Thu Oct-07-21 08:59 PM
>>Braxton Miller fell in his hands instead of a Jeff Driskel
>tl;dr: Meyer put all of his eggs in the wrong QB basket, then
>ended up with them all over his face.
>it wasnt Jeff Driskel tho. it was John David Brantley, who
>played for a small Catholic school in Ocala that beat up on
>small public schools. he was a big fish in a tiny pond, and a
>Gator legacy, and clearly not the guy.
>so in 2008 Meyer goes all in on Trey Burton of Venice HS,
>current TE for the Colts, as his next veer option savior.
>Burton committed in 2008 before his Jr year, and summer of
>2008 is when I moved to Port Charlotte, about 25 minutes from
>Venice. hearing about this local wonderkind my ex and i rode
>out to see him play one night.
>he was NOT good, just full grown already. Dri Archer, a 5'7
>fireball and future consensus AA at Kent State was the spark
>for everything they did. i watched them on TV a few more
>times and it was more of the same. incidentally Archer went
>on to beat Denard in the 100m state finals and did a 4.26(!)
>40 at the combine.
>in 2009 without Archer, Venice was meh. Burton racked up a
>bunch of short yardage TD runs and decently efficient passing
>against a usually loaded box. to me, he was a poor man's
>Jermaine Gonzales (OLSM) with more power in his running.
>Jordan Reed had already been moved to TE, so in 2010 UF went
>out there with Brantley, Burton, and....nobody else. Two
>major misses at QB. Meanwhile, people in Florida are starting
>to wonder why Denard isnt around.
>Season goes along terribly, Denard becomes the first 2500/1500
>QB in NCAA history while Brantley and Burton flounder, and
>voila. He needs to spend time with his family because of blah
2747791, Two things really changed the course of CFB over the last two decades|
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-08-21 12:36 PM
Miami not signing Drew Brees and Cam Newton stealing a laptop.
If Miami signs Brees, Saban probably doesn’t end up back at Bama and if that happens and Cam doesn’t steal a laptop then Urb probably sticks around at Florida for another 5 years.
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed Oct-06-21 09:58 PM
2747684, Not flying back with the team is the way more egregious offense |
Posted by Tiger Woods, Wed Oct-06-21 06:40 PM
That actually IS worth being outraged over
2747708, I’m sure other coaches have done it|
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Oct-07-21 10:20 AM
but at 4 games in it should be football related
Visiting grandkids sounds like such a lame ass excuse
2747709, Reports are that he’s lost the team.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Oct-07-21 10:31 AM
Dude’s clearly a grade-A bozo. You can get away with being a weirdo and a horndog and whatever else if the team is actually good. But… it’s not. So that’s that. I don’t think he makes it to Week 6.
2747724, titans -4.5 this sunday?|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Oct-07-21 01:41 PM
interesting subplot is that vrabel HATES urban going back to when he coached DL at osu in 2012-2013
2747784, Please tell me more lol|
Posted by guru0509, Fri Oct-08-21 11:13 AM
>interesting subplot is that vrabel HATES urban going back to
>when he coached DL at osu in 2012-2013
2747723, shelly is deleting her twitter|
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Oct-07-21 01:39 PM
this is why we can't have nice things...
2747726, what exactly did she delete? the app? lol|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Oct-07-21 02:01 PM
Posted by 3xKrazy, Thu Oct-07-21 02:40 PM
2747727, Can’t you see she is the victim here?!?!|
Posted by calij81, Thu Oct-07-21 02:04 PM
2747731, famous or not I hate when people feel the need to "announce" they're...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-07-21 02:28 PM
leaving social media, just go lol
2747742, uh-oh, sounds like ol' girl's mom is trying to get her pockets straight...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Oct-07-21 04:42 PM
Mom of woman from Urban Meyer video worried about daughter's 'emotional status'
The mother of the 24-year-old woman who was videotaped and photographed dancing near Jacksonville Jaguars coach Urban Meyer at Urban’s Chophouse in Columbus, Ohio last week said she is worried about her daughter's wellbeing.
“(She) can’t even go anywhere," the mother told USA TODAY Sports. “It's ruining her life is what it’s doing. I’m worried for her emotional status right now."
USA TODAY Sports is not identifying the woman or her mother because they have been the subject of backlash despite not having made any public statements yet.
New Horizon Media Group, a marketing company where the woman works, said Thursday it is conducting an internal investigation into the incident that took place Friday.
The company is not in position “to make any determination as to her (employment) status,” said Brian Duncan, an attorney representing the company.
He said the woman is working for the company during the investigation.
Alex Cruz, the owner of New Horizons Media Group, referred a request for comment to Duncan.
“I just pray that Alex doesn’t fire my daughter because she needs this job," the mother said. “She just bought a house."
When asked why New Horizons Media Group needed to conduct an investigation, Duncan said: “We’ve had no prior issues with her whatsoever. She’s been a very solid asset to the company. We’re going to undertake our internal investigation to determine what, if any, impact this has on the company and we’ll proceed accordingly."
Duncan said the company has done work for Urban Chophouse, a joint venture with Meyer and an Ohio restaurateur, and said there is no knowledge the woman had a previous relationship with Meyer, the former coach at Ohio State.
One video showed the woman dancing suggestively near Meyer and another video showed Meyer apparently grabbing the women’s buttocks.
The videos of the woman and Meyer were distributed on social media after the Jaguars lost to the Bengals 24-21 Thursday night in Cincinnati.
"There was a big group next to the restaurant," Meyer said during his Monday press conference. "They wanted me to come over and take pictures, and I did. (They) tried to pull me out on the dance floor, screwing around, but I should've left."
Meyer, who has roots in Ohio and coached the Ohio State Buckeyes from the 2012-18 seasons, said he did not travel back to Florida with the team and stayed so that he could spend time with his grandchildren and attend an event.
"I just apologized to the team for being a distraction," Meyer said. "It's stupid. I explained everything that happened and I should not have put myself in that position."
Meyer added that he apologized to his family, saying they were "upset" about the video.
2747771, thats not at all what this sounds like lmao|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Oct-08-21 08:22 AM
this sounds like Urbz is tryin to get some clapback on that homewrecking immoral bitch who victimized him in his restaurant when he was emotionally vulnerable, and caused all this undue pain and suffering to his family with her scandalous predatory behavior
2747755, I just don't get the evo|
Posted by cantball, Thu Oct-07-21 09:28 PM
Go be Saban. You don't have to actually coach, the recruits come to you, and you can hire every assistant while making 10 million a year til you die.
These assholes have to know they can't actually coach men. They can't game plan, and they can't really coach anyone up or call plays. Just go bang young girls and stop trying to be a coach
<================== Learn the name now before everyone gets dunked on
2747769, RE: I just don't get the evo|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-08-21 07:48 AM
>These assholes have to know they can't actually coach men.
>They can't game plan, and they can't really coach anyone up or
>call plays. Just go bang young girls and stop trying to be a
that's the thing they don't, every successful coach in every sport at every level fantasizes about doing the same thing at the next level
2747786, Name the most successful CFB to NFL head coach over the last 30 years|
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-08-21 11:44 AM
The list is extremely short:
I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but the list is full of failure.
2747787, the CBB to NBA list is probably similar...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-08-21 11:48 AM
>The list is extremely short:
>I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but the list is full of
2747788, Carroll was in the NFL for 15 years and coached the Patriots before USC|
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Fri Oct-08-21 12:07 PM
He doesn't count. Its pretty much just Jimmy Johnson
2747790, Yeah, I agree that Carroll is a bit different because he had prior NFL HC|
Posted by calij81, Fri Oct-08-21 12:32 PM
I almost excluded him from this list due to that.
I also forgot about Denny Green, who was the head coach at Stanford but I can’t remember if he went from CFB HC to NFL HC directly.
2747792, yeah Larry Brown is kind of similar...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-08-21 12:46 PM
>I almost excluded him from this list due to that.
>I also forgot about Denny Green, who was the head coach at
>Stanford but I can’t remember if he went from CFB HC to NFL
Denny Green bounced back and forth between NFL and college jobs before he got the HC job at Stanford
2747789, Tony Kahn was on LeBatard, before the season…|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri Oct-08-21 12:29 PM
extolling the virtues of Urb and how he sees him as a father figure. He was legit gushing, when talking about him. Tony is kind of a friend of the show, I wonder if he’ll come back on.
2747793, RE: Tony Kahn was on LeBatard, before the season…|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-08-21 12:56 PM
>extolling the virtues of Urb and how he sees him as a father
>figure. He was legit gushing, when talking about him. Tony
>is kind of a friend of the show, I wonder if he’ll come back
yeah that's the thing Urb projects this image of a "family man" then you see him on a barstool (in his defense he was probably holding on for dear life but it looked like he had his thumb up her butt lol) its just his arrogance, you're Urban Meyer in Columbus, Ohio, its not like you're trying to be on some low key shit so he shouldn't be surprised when it became a story. Its similar to when he tried to hire that racist assistant coach or tried to make Tebow a TE, he just thinks he can do shit because he's Urban Meyer but the NFL is a lot different than college. If his team was 2-2 instead of 0-4 things would probably be a lot different too...
2747794, The rabbit has the gun in the pro’s|
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Oct-08-21 01:51 PM
You could shit all over these Black athletes in college and they had to take it but in the pro’s??? nah son.
Even tho he is the GM I’m sure he has to hear how player X is not going anywhere so find a way to make player X happy.
2747800, RE: The rabbit has the gun in the pro’s|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-08-21 03:40 PM
>You could shit all over these Black athletes in college and
>they had to take it but in the pro’s??? nah son.
>Even tho he is the GM I’m sure he has to hear how player X
>is not going anywhere so find a way to make player X happy.
its different when you're coaching teenagers and you control their entire lives then you have to coach grown men who are millionaires some of them making more money than you
2747812, if you dont think the Khans were thrilled to bring in Tebow...|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Oct-08-21 05:22 PM
youre fooling yourself
2747825, what does that matter? and why would they be? they didn't own the Jags...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Oct-08-21 09:58 PM
>youre fooling yourself
when Tebow was at UF, I doubt if they "revered" him the way other people in Jacksonville do, either way I doubt if it was their idea to bring a guy back to change positions in the NFL after being out of the league for 6-7 years lol
2747796, hes such a ridiculous goof|
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Oct-08-21 02:27 PM
2748032, Thanks Jon! -Urb|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-11-21 10:51 PM
2748044, Yeah, I don’t think anyone had Gruden as the first coaching casualty |
Posted by calij81, Mon Oct-11-21 11:18 PM
How quickly things change, the Raiders and Gruden were undefeated just two weeks ago and now Gruden is unemployed while Urb is caught getting lap dances and fingering a girl.
2748046, the NFL news cycle has totally shifted, Urb is small time now lol|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Oct-11-21 11:28 PM