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2745973, RE: i did it. best overall AEW PPV in a long long time.
Posted by jimaveli, Mon Sep-06-21 12:23 AM
I’m with you on Moxley. Moxley’s name is big enough that throwing him into those ‘special’ matches is probably great for relationship-building with other feds. And he seems like the type who loves doing the rando indy stuff and AEW lets him. I hope he eventually gets Tanahashi as a big NJPW payoff. I dare not even expect for it to go all the way to Okada. Oddly enough, I think a Christian/Okada match would be a party.

I have to keep remembering that the Bucks and Kenny are huge nWo folks so cluster endings are their jam even when they’re faces. It works slightly better for them as ‘be bitches when the heat comes’ heels. It worked like a damn charm for both Cole and Bryan. Cool heels who don’t heel ever are the worst. Kenny and them are heat-having heels. Kenny’s title loss is gonna go great if they don’t wait 2 years to do it. And Kevin Nash and Hall didn’t come close to working hard during most of that nWo run. Kenny and them put their shit on the line pretty much every time out.

Women’s wrestling is in a golden age too, isn’t it? So many of these woman across the industry can go. And some can do the character stuff too. It’s fun to see. Britt Baker has that Charlotte thing where she can turn on a speed/intensity near a finish/false finish that makes all the difference in matches. We are a long way from ‘women = bathroom or fix a plate’. And even some of the green ones have a bunch of folks around to help them get their shit together. Ie: Jade, the big girl is in NWA, and Lacey Evans.

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>>on a personal level i really dont want to engage with their
>>storytelling. i want to see Punk whip somebody's ass and
>then
>>talk shit about the next person whose ass he's going to whip.
>
>>for that reason, i dont like the babyface matchup here. i
>>could honestly see Punk be willing to do the honors here,
>but
>>that doesnt really do anyone any good.
>
>got to see a solid ass whipping and Punk worked just heek
>enough to create some tension. good stuff.
>
>>im not into this at all. Omega has done very little to
>>justify his title reign. this will be his 4th consecutive
>>World Title PPV match and the last 3 have all been bad.
>>Moxley's typical nonsense didnt help the first one at all,
>and
>>then Callis was involved in the finish. then the exploding
>>barbedwire buttfuck match. then a triple threat match that
>>had Orange Cassidy injected into it for some reason. now a
>>match against a guy who already pinned him despite more
>>interference.
>>these are not the big fights that i was lead to believe
>Kenny
>>Omega has, and when Brock Lesnar comes back to get in the
>face
>>of Roman Reigns while Paul E shits himself on the
>outside...it
>>really makes this title reign look amateurish. sucks to say
>>but the belt is losing gravitas to me, and that trickles
>down
>>to the rest of the card in any promotion.
>>additionally, there is going to be fuckery. i hope im wrong
>>but i see this being infested with good brothers & the worst
>>of jurassic express.
>
>this had its moments, but it was definitely full of fuckery,
>with tables very early, a good brothers appearance, and
>multiple Callis spots that buried the ref. this is not my
>flavor of main event title match.
>
>>ive never seen a high level championship match where one of
>>the competitors hadnt cut a single promo on TV before the
>>match. i dont understand this at all. I watch Elevation
>>(best show they have imo), Dark, Dynamite, and Rampage every
>>week and i have no idea how we got here with this.
>
>i liked this. solid grappling, statlander has a new layer of
>polish, very good here-to-there title match.
>
>>this...is cool. miro is getting heat with me for thinking
>>that this decent gimmick can erase the stench of the one he
>>came in with, but im enjoying his time on TV in some form or
>>fashion. also, religiosity is not an appealing quality for
>me
>>so Eddie Kingston working as a Nuyorican Richard Dawkins is
>>really hitting a sweet spot. "Redeem these nuts" instantly
>>slotted in with "I dont need to paint my face to be
>somebody"
>>at the top of the pile for promos in AEW.
>>champ retains but this should be fun.
>
>this was two thumbs way up until the finish. the ref is
>fucking with the ring when he should be counting is bad
>enough, but if hes gonna throw his body in harms way to
>protect Miro then he needs to eat steel. it could have ended
>with a Kingston win at one point that would have been credible
>and blown the roof off. great match with a flat finish.
>still overall enjoyable but i dont want ref heat at all.
>Eddie getting to the ropes is a low key contender for moment
>on the night.
>
>>Booker of the year couldnt write his way into a feud for
>this,
>>so we have the 50leventh AEW title match determined by
>>tournament or battle royale. its going to be a typical
>Young
>>Bucks car crash that brings their opponents down rather than
>>building them up, and i wont remember anything that happens
>24
>>hours later.
>>i have no idea how this is going to end but the AEW tag team
>>situation is going to continue to be awful until the Young
>>Bucks are no longer involved with it. i really couldnt care
>>less.
>
>whatever, Bucks lost. they pissed on the idea of the cage, so
>there was that. i guess that will last in my mind but for the
>wrong reasons.
>
>>this will at least be entertaining. Ruby Soho is obviously
>>the surprise entrant bc they have to play her song, but
>Rancid
>>is one of my all time favortie bands and if shes good enough
>>for Lars shes good enough for me. Thunder Rosa, Ruby Soho,
>>Jade Cargill, Leyla Hirsch are all wrestlers I care about
>and
>>would like to invesst in personally, so Im sure that means
>Emi
>>Lawler....er....Sakura is going to win.
>
>i was into this VERY much. they ladies i liked had fun high
>spots and the ones that should have kicked ass did kick ass.
>love Ruby's selling. one of the best battle royales they've
>done.
>
>>i dont understand why this is on PPV, and I dont understand
>>what Moxley's overall raison d'etre is at this point. if he
>>knew how to have a "WWE style" main event match in the mold
>of
>>Austin, Punk, Cena, or even Jericho, he would be fucking
>huge.
>>but i dont think thats ever going to happen because he cant
>>see the opportunities to be creative presented by the
>>constraints of rules and ring dimensions.
>
>this was a good cold match, and im not hating the idea of
>occupying Jon Moxley with NJPW one offs for the next 6
>months.
>
>
>>hooooo boy you got that right. its almost like they
>shouldnt
>>have started with War Games and done this whole thing
>>backwards smh. credit to FTR/S&O for keeping their part of
>>this hot, but this has been mismanaged from the get go. the
>>labors were more laborious for me than Jericho, and thats
>>saying something considering. Y2Js general out-of-breathness
>>these days
>
>i was ready to eat my words and talk about how much i liked
>this right up until the finish, a disturbing trend in an
>otherwise strong show.
>
>>another thing i dont really understand, and i didnt realize
>>there was such a clamoring for him to wrestle that he HAS to
>>wrestle QT on PPV tonight. someone that could talk couldve
>>made this interesting, but that aint QT. he's a silent film
>>actor in a talkie world.
>
>i was sufficiently let up.
>
>>>Now the big question is: does Bryan Danielson debut? Are
>>there
>>>any other big debuts (like Adam Cole)? I don’t think they
>>do
>>>more than 2 debuts (including Ruby), but who knows?
>>i dont know but if he does it would be nice if he did it
>>without have an elaborately designed AV spectacle. Road
>>Warrior Animal once said his basic tenet of pro wrestling
>was
>>"visualize the shoot, then work it". only Moxley has ever
>>worked his "surprise" debut like someone showing up to kick
>>ass and chew his last piece of bubblegum without making it
>>about how great the company is.
>>i dont know if they think the world is too small to actually
>>surprise people anymore, but thats a piss poor excuse for
>not
>>presenting it that way. id much rather they do it Animal's
>>way.
>
>heavily produced AV packages for both. Danielson's music
>lends itself well to the situation but it seems too Vaudeville
>to have so much gaga ready for them right off the bat.
>
>
>overall tho good stuff with good commentary. finishes left
>some things to be desired.