Wingspan, feel for the game and vertical jump. Let’s go


2021 FIRST ROUND
1. Detroit
2. Houston
3. Cleveland
4. Toronto
5. Orlando
6. Oklahoma City
7. Golden State (from Minnesota)
8. Orlando (from Chicago)
9. Sacramento
10. New Orleans
11. Charlotte
12. San Antonio
13. Indiana
14. Golden State
15. Washington
16. Oklahoma City (from Boston)
17. Memphis
18. Oklahoma City (from Miami via the LA Clippers, Philadelphia, and Phoenix)
19. New York
20. Atlanta
21. New York (from Dallas)
22. Los Angeles Lakers
23. Houston (from Portland)
24. Houston (from Milwaukee)
25. LA Clippers
26. Denver
27. Brooklyn
28. Philadelphia
29. Phoenix
30. Utah

2021 SECOND ROUND
31. Milwaukee (from Houston)
32. New York (from Detroit via the LA Clippers and Philadelphia)
33. Orlando
34. Oklahoma City
35. New Orleans (from Cleveland via Atlanta)
36. Oklahoma City (from Minnesota via Golden State)
37. Detroit (from Toronto via Brooklyn)
38. Chicago (from New Orleans)**
39. Sacramento
40. New Orleans (from Chicago)**
41. San Antonio
42. Detroit (from Charlotte via New York)
43. New Orleans (from Washington via Milwaukee, Cleveland, and Utah)
44. Brooklyn (from Indiana)
45. Boston
46. Toronto (from Memphis via Sacramento)
47. Toronto (from Golden State via Utah and New Orleans)
48. Atlanta (from Miami via Sacramento and Portland)
49. Brooklyn (from Atlanta)
50. Philadelphia (from New York)
51. Memphis (from Portland via Dallas, Detroit, and Cleveland)
52. Detroit (from Los Angeles Lakers via Sacramento, Houston, and Detroit)
53. Philadelphia (from New Orleans via Dallas)
54. Indiana (from Milwaukee via Houston and Cleveland)
55. Oklahoma City (from Denver via Golden State and Philadelphia)
56. Charlotte (from LA Clippers)
57. Charlotte (from Brooklyn)
58. New York (from Philadelphia)
59. Brooklyn (from Phoenix)
60. Indiana (from Utah)

This isn't the order I'd draft them in, this is just a rough approximation of the order in which I'd value these dudes. The actual draft order would be team and need dependent. (Although I did record a whole mock draft episode of 2.1 Seconds to Madness breaking down all of these guys with Jim from the Three Man Weave podcast-- shameless plug!).

1. Cade Cunningham
2. Evan Mobley
3. Jalen Suggs
4. Jalen Green
5. Scottie Barnes
6. Moses Moody
7. Jonathan Kuminga
8. Josh Giddey
9. Franz Wagner
10. Davion Mitchell
11. Kai Jones
12. Alperen Sengun
13. Corey Kispert
14. James Bouknight
15. Chris Duarte
16. Jared Butler
17. Ziaire Williams
18. Trey Murphy
19. Deuce McBride
20. Tre Mann
21. Usman Garuba
22. Jaden Springer
23. Keon Johnson
24. Isaiah Jackson
25. Herb Jones
26. Ayo Dosunmu
27. Bones Hyland
28. Josh Primo
29. Sharife Cooper
30. Cam Thomas
31. Jalen Johnson
32. Jericho Sims
33. Day’Ron Sharpe
34. Quentin Grimes
35. Austin Reeves
36. BJ Boston
37. Josh Christopher
38. Neemias Queta
39. JT Thor
40. Filip Petrusev

your breakdown of him sure doesn’t sound like a guy you want to take in the top 10.

He's definitely one of the better shot creators in the draft. And I can definitely see his mediocre shooting numbers as being largely contextual. I'm still concerned about the defense and the passing... but again, he had to do *everything* last year for a team that still ended up pretty good. So I get the sales pitch. If he can shoot 3s at an above-average clip, I think he can be an NBA starting 2 guard. If they're drafting him all the way at 6... then clearly OKC thinks that, lol. I'm a bit more skeptical than most, but I do understand the appeal.

(And I had him at 8 on my mock, because Orlando really needs consistent shot creators, so his primary skill definitely merits being drafted higher than I'd personally put him on my big board.)

If he bulks up a bit, he could be a great shooter. He definitely has that blank face serial killer thing when he's locked in. But bump him a bit and his rhythm is gone and the shots off. Saw that time and time again with him at UCONN. All depends on where he ends up.

Wildly athletic, fearless, can get his own shot, but not the greatest shooter, gets lost on defense at times?

>Wildly athletic, fearless, can get his own shot, but not the
>greatest shooter, gets lost on defense at times?

When he is in rhythm, he's lights out, but he's not physical enough to stay in rhythm when pressured (at this point). But he can get buckets.

i'd take Green 1 though

That… is definitely something! Respect for the different take, I reckon, lol.

People keep comparing Jalen Green to guys like Zach LaVine, maybe Brad Beal… but it’s unclear that guys like that translate to true contention. Scoring 25+ per game is obviously a genuine skill, and it might be huge with the right team… but I can see a world in which he’s a 20+ PPG scorer on this rookie deal on a team that doesn’t crack 40 wins. (Green also still currently has some serious defense issues, much like LaVine.)

Whereas Suggs plays the most important position on the court, he’s a two way player, and he loves the big moment. If it wasn’t for Mobley’s absolutely absurd upside, I’d have Suggs second right today.

>People keep comparing Jalen Green to guys like Zach LaVine,
>maybe Brad Beal… but it’s unclear that guys like that
>translate to true contention. Scoring 25+ per game is
>obviously a genuine skill, and it might be huge with the right
>team… but I can see a world in which he’s a 20+ PPG scorer
>on this rookie deal on a team that doesn’t crack 40 wins.
>(Green also still currently has some serious defense issues,
>much like LaVine.)
>
> Whereas Suggs plays the most important position on the court,
>he’s a two way player, and he loves the big moment. If it
>wasn’t for Mobley’s absolutely absurd upside, I’d have
>Suggs second right today.

Especially because I can see a world in which he’s maybe not a team’s leading scorer… but is a contending team’s captain, defender at the point of attack, most important overall player.

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Chauncey had to carry a mediocre roster in the Pac-12-- Suggs had to score, facilitate, get everyone involved, and strike in the big moments. I think Suggs is probably more ready to fill that role immediately in the NBA than Chauncey was.

I agree that the Knicks take a shot and get him at 32.

Not convinced about McBride tho. I would prefer we go with a bigger guard, but dude is supposedly a pit bull. We'll see.

Sims does everything we want a rim-running big to do in today’s NBA. No star upside, really, but should fit into a team’s PnR scheme beautifully.

He's a young Robin Lopez/Anderson Varejao type. I think he will develop some basics down the road that will solidify his role. Right now, he can be Marcus Camby NYK Year one- blocking shots, owning the boards and dunking on folks and when finishing on the break, won't look like a nerd standing over someone after he dunks on their ass.

possibly taking a shot on upside at 7 (kuminga being the dude for that), and getting a more ready to play guy at 14 (kispert, duarte).

one crazy trade-up had them giving 7, 14, wiseman and wiggins for cade. that ain't gonna happen, but is dude THAT good?



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out of PnR.

i hope his shooting improves, if the dubs get him.


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And only 7 of my top 60 didn't get picked. Pretty good draft on the whole.

STUNNED Balsa got picked.

Mafamaticks got me calling her Racial. LOL

not exactly taking jobs from rachel but they coulda really fumbled that shit.

Jay Bilas I guess brings the CBB analysis, Perk is good for the one liners and I don't who this other dude is...

Where is Jalen Rose and Jay Williams?

give us more Malika and Chiney, I'll even take the cuteness of Elle Duncan, all those women know they're shit too

Rece at least stays in his lane on nights like this. Bilas is fine, at least he watches and knows the pros and cons to the prospects. Jay Williams would've been fine, but he usually doesn't break down players as well as Bilas does. Jalen Rose doesn't watch college ball anymore and would essentially be Kenny Smith on this broadcast, aka not good.

Don't know who the last guy is yet, they haven't showed a wide shot in a minute.

EDIT: oh, the last guy is Mike Schmitz. He's fucking great. Terrific talent scout, worked for Givony for a long time, makes awesome videos on YouTube about players. I really like him. He's the best guy up there when it comes to player analysis.

>Jay Bilas I guess brings the CBB analysis, Perk is good for
>the one liners and I don't who this other dude is...
>
>Where is Jalen Rose and Jay Williams?
>
>give us more Malika and Chiney, I'll even take the cuteness of
>Elle Duncan, all those women know they're shit too

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After that, could get interesting.

Also heard Wagner to Golden State at 7. Would be a really nice fit, especially if they can get his shot consistent--- and they're one of the best possible places to make that happen (if they don't trade him).

years from now lol

Cleeeeeeeean......

Said Cade was the most complete prospect since LeBron......C'mon man. I hope so but that's alot of kool aide

He's not even pretending to know things out there. He's just pretending he agrees with the guy who's a professional talent scout and player analyst. Maybe Perk's smarter than we thought! lol

just loud and ignorant and brings nothing to a discussion.

he fucked up my *entire* espn/espn2 morning routine.

Kinda wonder if they'll try to deal 15 and 22 to move up.

They're all in on the versatility. Barnes, Anunoby, Siakam.

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No other roster is gonna plan a scheme around Siakam. If he wants to be the third option somewhere else and try to fit a different scheme, okay, I guess.

a city by definition where every dime is exotic and over the top and in the space of two years you go from being the 3rd man off the bench energy guy to the focal point of the offense, all star, etc and you help win a chip?


Not everyone is built for that (T-Mac). If he went to say, the Spurs, he continues to improve. If he ends up in a large market in the U.S. he will regress.

>a city by definition where every dime is exotic and over the
>top and in the space of two years you go from being the 3rd
>man off the bench energy guy to the focal point of the
>offense, all star, etc and you help win a chip?
>
>
>Not everyone is built for that (T-Mac). If he went to say,
>the Spurs, he continues to improve. If he ends up in a large
>market in the U.S. he will regress.

T-Mac got injured

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Fultz too. Tossing them all in the bushes. They lucked the fuck out.

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>Fultz too. Tossing them all in the bushes. They lucked the
>fuck out.

And if they wanna trade someone, Cole's got more value imo.

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They're hoping he can be Luka-esque long run. Love it. Love the dice roll here. I saw a Lonzo Ball comparison I like-- the upside could be real high.

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Kuminga's got higher upside but a lot dicier in terms of where his floor is. I like putting a high-IQ distributor like Giddey on the floor with the young dudes. Plus, if they keep Shai, might be a hell of a backcourt.

Can't shoot, can't pass, can't really defend yet... but Golden State's a great place for him to learn. He probably won't play the next year or two, I wouldn't think-- or he gets dealt, obviously. Maybe Warriors just think he's got the most upside in a trade.

highest upside of anyone on the board.

we'll see who they go with at 14.

interesting that the new assistant they got (from TOR) is big on player development and working with international players.

definitely gives them another dynamic player on the second unit, someone who can run the floor and finish.


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i'm happy w/ this pick.

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Get yourself a defensive minded 3-and-D guy and a pure PG who can run the show. Love it.

I am posting this shit to help Perk.

although i know nothing about any of these guys.

One of them is gone.

He's a big time project. Maybe spot minutes off the bench but that's it.

and hopefully he improves even more next year when he doesn't have to be the #2 scoring option.

i had really hoped they could keep oubre, b/c he played well this year after he got used to things. but he's made himself some money.


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Sacramento, with Fox and Halliburton, draft a PG. Okay!

Then Memphis drafts a big time project who could really flourish but could also completely bust and almost certainly won't be ready to play in the next year or two. Okay again!

The BB's

ok. but in 2021?

ok.

??

ok.

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That’s the only inspiration related to Wayne.

well, true.


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I think he could've been a lotto pick next year... but they make him lotto this year. WOW. I think he would've been available many picks later.

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"Mask up, Baby"

I really like Duarte, and maybe Duarte is more ready to win right today than Moody, so maybe that's why... but wow, I can't believe Moody is still here. If I'm Golden State, I'm ALL OVER Moody.

what happened.


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WOW. Unlike Kuminga, Moody can help Golden State next season. Right away. Incredible.

got him at 14. that is dope.


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the sixth man. His problems were magnified by his trouble fitting in with Steph.

Thats their choices unless they draft for it or swing a deal.

Everyone left isn't a starter PG anyway.

damn.


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A really good foundational piece. Surprised OKC didn't want him here.

him. he'd have been a good pickup for either team.

>A really good foundational piece. Surprised OKC didn't want
>him here.


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shooter.

that's a come up for the wiz.


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... he can't pronounce Sengun's name. And that's it. lmao

They got Steven Adams. No goons needed.

Terrific fit imo. Great 3-and-D guy. Maybe could even start next year if all goes well.

very good defender AND a marksman? pretty dope.


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Great, great value for Charlotte. Real All-Star upside if everything goes correctly.

for a future first rounder!?!?!?

We finna get Bronny????

how they pick three people with one pick?


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I think Knicks fans should take that as a good sign, that perhaps they're saving that money because they think a big free agent is incoming.

Small chance we get Sims at 58 or whatever that last pick is....

Unless we are getting Malik Monk (who I think is going to continue to improve...given the minutes) or Lonzo or Schroeder....I can't see them getting anyone else....but who knows. I think Monk is a strong possibility because of the UK network.

I think Grimes should absolutely get minutes next season. Nice 3-and-D option.

they are going to build for Thibs to have folks he can put on the floor immediately. UGH. We will regret letting go of the 19th and 21st.

>they are going to build for Thibs to have folks he can put on
>the floor immediately. UGH. We will regret letting go of the
>19th and 21st.

I think McBride could be a backup PG *right today.* Love love love McBride. Grimes at 25 could get bench minutes too, although I think McBride is better.

He ain't even coming across the pond.

he should have a better three ball but i'm not sure that's enough to drop him to #38.

if jrue is his template he should at the very least end up being a sold rotation guy.

great spot up shooter....and the size to be a shut down defender. Thibs probably wasn't high on him cuz he can't pronounce his name. SMH.

Sometimes those dudes tumble, especially if folks don't trust the jumper. I think he should've gone end of first. Great value where you got him-- and with a chip on his shoulder at that.

Hopefully we can get Sims too and I will rescind my earlier comments and sentiments LOL. I think Dosonmu is going to have a higher upside than McBride tho

I know that's asking for a lot being that last night was a shallow draft class and the Knicks had low draft picks.

Main reason I am asking is because the Knicks desperately need someone to make Randle's job of initiating the offense much much easier, especially in slowed half court sets.

It the guards the Knicks selected are similar to Quickley in that they'll look to score first, I suppose that would be somewhat of an improvement, but it doesn't address with the Knicks need to solve their offensive problems IMO.

I wrote a decent chunk about him in the Justivity post, but I’m high on him.

he sounds like the kind of player Phil Jackson thought he was going to get when he drafted Frank Ntilikina, except Ntilikina so far has shown he offers no threat on the offensive side of the ball.

Since this McBride dude was drafted so low, I'm going to assume he's not ready to run an offense yet and Thibs mainly likes him because of his defensive skills. Sounds like the type to run with the second unit off the bench.

So unless Quickley made HUGE strides in the offseason in terms orchestrating the offense, it appears the Knicks will have to go the free agent route to get a starting point guard.

... I'll say his PG skills are definitely going under the radar in this draft because he came into school with the perception of "combo guard." But, like, last year, his A:TO ratio was one of the best in the NCAA IIRC.

contract. He is already laying cats out with solid, Steven Adams type picks, and the lob game with him already keeps the crowd on the edge of their seats. He is rebounding well in traffic and he has show a terrific touch around the basket. GOON!!!

These are two of the best 3-and-D perimeter guys left in the draft-- I had Reaves Top 40, Ayayi Top 45. I think both have a non-zero chance to make the roster, considering the need for shooting there.

Now he's on pace for a Liangelo Ball career path.

Koby drafted Evan so now he needs to get rid of Kevin Love.

I really think him and his game have an opportunity to make an impact at the next level. He just knows how to play basketball. The shooting concerns are there— but IMO his elite handle and court vision make up for it— especially if you project him as a role player and not your main pg

Golden State gets away with highway robbery.

My reactions were the same as Longo's... especially on Barnes and Primo. Spurs might know something we don't.

Glad to see the Cavs didn't bullshit and took Mobley. He gonna be good and those lineups are gonna be nice now.