> (and we could probably
>have more compassion for them too, if there's something
>underlying)

If you make it simply about the physical risks of failing then you toss every other athlete under the bus. Which you'd think, given everyone's absolute truest concern for mental health, would completely fly in the face of what they apparently stand for.

But ya, this is mostly a semantical convo. Interest levels aside, some people are mature enough to have that convo. Others not so much.