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2743000, Shermdog caught a DV case
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Wed Jul-14-21 11:14 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31816786/richard-sherman-arrested-domestic-violence-charge-denied-bail

Hard for me to understand why you do something this dumb

Testosterone + Anger Management issues?
2743006, Damn
Posted by Mack, Wed Jul-14-21 01:50 PM
Will definitely wait for more information to be released but this isn't looking too good for him.
2743009, The timing is crazy too
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jul-14-21 02:05 PM
his career might be over.

2743087, Hope he gets the help he needs
Posted by Mack, Thu Jul-15-21 09:53 AM
Feel bad for the guy. he's going through some stuff and sucks that it's broadcast for the whole world to see.
2743011, It was a suicidal episode (link)
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jul-14-21 05:23 PM
https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1415430135323496451?s=21
2743012, that dispatcher was a dickhead.
Posted by Soldado, Wed Jul-14-21 05:41 PM
also its fucked up that his wife is clearly grappling with the question whether calling the police is gonna help him or kill him.
2743014, right...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-14-21 05:46 PM
>also its fucked up that his wife is clearly grappling with
>the question whether calling the police is gonna help him or
>kill him.
2743013, wow
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-14-21 05:45 PM
2743019, God I hate that dispatcher holy shit
Posted by shockvalue, Wed Jul-14-21 07:32 PM
Cism with a side of nasty stuckup yatch.
2743027, RE: It was a suicidal episode (link)
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Wed Jul-14-21 08:39 PM
Well, that explains that
2743033, damn
Posted by dillinjah, Wed Jul-14-21 09:32 PM
2743017, CTE
Posted by allStah, Wed Jul-14-21 06:07 PM
That’s it. I’m done with football.

Richard doesn’t have a track record of this type of stuff, and after
hearing that Jay Cutler interview, and how he fears that CTE will
set in sooner later, a lot of these players need serious medical
treatment.
2743018, Been done. Not worth it
Posted by Nodima, Wed Jul-14-21 07:11 PM
Have a soft spot for Husker athletics. Especially pioneering NIL rights and all, but…pro football has been out for me for nearly a decade.

Use em up and throw em out. Yuck.

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2743075, you promise? NFL threads on here are about to be fun again
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 08:35 AM
Not ruling out CTE but it could also be Sherman having a hard time dealing with the fear of moving on to the next chapter of his life.

you go from one of the best to “no thanks, we are going with the cheaper, young option but stay in contact”

You said Sherman has never acted like this but he has also never been a 33 year old unemployed football player either. I’m sure this offseason has been rough for him.




2743080, You need to really educate yourself, because you sound
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 09:12 AM
highly ignorant.

Had you done your research, you would have known that Richard Sherman
was recently named to the Board of Directors of an E gaming company
that is trading on the Nasdaq. Financially, he is set for life, and 2 months
ago he did an outstanding interview on ESPN with Stephen A. Smith to discuss
the great things that he is doing off the field.

https://youtu.be/Ua3_IHUG24I

He was bright, attentive, cordial, and he spoke intelligently. That was not
the appearance of a man who was worried or concerned about his future.

So your accusations are bullshit and rather disgusting, because you have zero proof
of it, and you are simply speculating.

Time and time again we see football players in these types of situations, and
people continue to ignore the truth as to why football players act in a violent way.

This man won The Walter Payton man of the year award for his
off the field contributions as a mentor, leader and humanitarian....This isn’t
some average football player who doesn’t have anything to look forward
to after football.

Please educate yourself.
2743081, Are you a neurologist? No snark but you’re assuming a lot w that ‘diagnosis’
Posted by guru0509, Thu Jul-15-21 09:24 AM



>highly ignorant.
>
>Had you done your research, you would have known that Richard
>Sherman
>was recently named to the Board of Directors of an E gaming
>company
>that is trading on the Nasdaq. Financially, he is set for
>life, and 2 months
>ago he did and outstanding interview on ESPN with Stephen A.
>Smith to discuss
>the great things that he is doing off the field.
>
>https://youtu.be/Ua3_IHUG24I
>
>He was bright, attentive, cordial, and he spoke intelligently.
>That was not
>the appearance of a man who was worried or concerned about his
>future.
>
>So your accusations are bullshit and rather disgusting,
>because you have zero proof
>of it, and you are simply speculating.
>
>Time and time again we see football players in these types of
>situations, and
>people continue to ignore the truth as to why football players
>act in a violent way...
>
2743084, Ain’t gotta be a focking neurologists to see what is happening to
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 09:35 AM
football players based on sudden behavioral issues off the field. It’s a huge pattern that’s being highly ignored.

For a sudden rage to take place with a man who doesn’t have a track record of
being violent or hostile, and who has been nothing short of a class act off the field,
it’s not a simple speculation that he was depressed because he is no longer
a football player.

2743086, when did I say anything about Richard Sherman being a dumb jock?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 09:50 AM
You made all that up.

My point is life after football is still life AFTER football.

Maybe he isn’t ready to hang up his cleats yet and hit the bottle to deal with his depression?

stop trying to present your opinion as facts. You have no idea what happened or why it happened.

2743094, “ I’m SURE his offseason has been rough.”
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 10:05 AM
You wrote that dumb shit, which is wrong and speculative.

Again, had you done your research, you would have known about the
great things he has been doing in his offseason.

So you don’t know shit from shit about his offseason.




2743107, you need reading comprehension skills
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 11:11 AM
or just to geek the fuck down and stop acting like your post is law.

2743111, “I’m SURE his off season has been rough.”
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 11:39 AM
You said that speculative shit.

So sit there and own it.
2743113, well that is because we are speculating fool
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 11:54 AM
we don’t know his motivation

so all we can do is speculate.

wtf?

2743115, And I listed his offseason accomplishments....
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 11:59 AM
so it was far from rough. ....which you were so SURE of.
2743119, accomplishments don’t protect you from depression, trauma, etc
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 12:13 PM
all those accomplishments but he still was a man without a team in July.

which is why I’m not willing to rule out everything but CTE.

but you already lost this debate when you tried to lie and say I ruled out CTE when clearly I said it could also be related to CTE.

2743088, Public appearance vs internal struggle
Posted by Mack, Thu Jul-15-21 09:56 AM
Just because he can present well in an interview doesn't mean he has no internal turmoil.
2743092, that is the problem with being a public figure
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 10:03 AM
“he is smart and never did anything like this before”

people swear they know athletes just because they watched a few interviews.

We have no idea what this man struggles with on the daily.
2743098, And you have no proof that he has been struggling
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 10:33 AM
You’re just making up some shit ...like you are accusing of others.

His ex-wife just stated this is not his normal behavior and that he is a good human being...

The fact that you won’t even consider the possibility of CTE setting in
causing his unusual behavior is beyond irrational.
2743109, focking liar.. post 12
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 11:27 AM
allstah: “The fact that you won’t even consider the possibility of CTE setting in
causing his unusual behavior is beyond irrational.”


my first response to you starts with

“Not ruling out CTE but it could also be…“

so stop lying and sit yo ass down somewhere
2743093, Richard is, "a good person and this is not his character."(c)his wife
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-15-21 10:03 AM
>Just because he can present well in an interview doesn't mean
>he has no internal turmoil.
2743095, Let them fools yap off ...just goes to show you
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 10:16 AM
that guys don’t pay attention to a person’s track record, ability,
or accomplishments when it comes to a black man.


2743101, You can be a good person and still be struggling
Posted by Mack, Thu Jul-15-21 10:39 AM
Dude drank two bottles, was talking about killing himself...he's obviously dealing with something...and the onset of CTE could definitely be involved here as well. I'm a Richard Sherman fan. I hope he gets the help he needs.
2743097, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Thu Jul-15-21 10:32 AM
2743079, Football should be banned
Posted by Musa, Thu Jul-15-21 08:49 AM
2743082, then so should smoking, coal mining, alcohol, red meat, unprotected sex...
Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu Jul-15-21 09:34 AM
At some point we have to accept that these guys have accepted the dangers of their own game.

We're all surrounded by risks we CAN control, and we assume those risks anyway because we want to. This is really no different. Liquor, cigarettes, guns, weed...we all know this shit can be dangerous and yet we take part in these things anyway.

You want to rail against college football players risking their long-term health and not being compensated? You have my attention.

But by the time you make the NFL you know exactly what risks come with playing professional football and you're overlooking those risks in favor of exorbitant wages.

Not to say CTE isn't a thing. CTE is a thing! But by the time you've reached the level of a Richard Sherman, you're fully aware of the risks you're assuming.
2743089, exactly.. these players are willing to risk health for money and fame
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 09:58 AM
Not that I don’t have empathy for their health but a lot of these players can walk away much earlier and still have a ridiculous amount of money compared to the average citizen.

I’m also not willing to believe that football players aren’t just like every other person in America when it comes to depression, anxiety, stress, etc and bad days like this can happen.

This idea that football players wouldn’t drink and drive or have a run in with the law if it wasn’t for CTE is misguided.

CTE is real but it can’t be the first excuse used anytime a player gets in trouble.
2743135, Most of those things you named should be banned
Posted by Musa, Thu Jul-15-21 02:25 PM
except unprotected sex it ain't our fault neanderthals started screwing animals and created VD.

Football is a dumb ass sport for the entertainment of yt people mainly negros treat their bodies like crash dummies for money and end up with $hit health...all for the love of a game.

FOH.
2743085, this is obviously a mental health episode and I really hope he's ok
Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu Jul-15-21 09:35 AM
He's been a fantastic ambassador for the game of late and was poised for a stalwart second act. He's going through something serious. It's a shame that this is publicly known at all. I hope he gets help asap and becomes a success story that can inspire others, ala Brandon Marshall.

The only thing dumber than a football player is a baseball player. But Sherman isn't just smart for a football player, he's smart period. Positive vibes to his family.
2743090, we don’t know what it is and none of it is obvious
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 10:00 AM
its okay to speculate but we have no idea what happened with this man.

What was he “stealing” and why?

Why is it domestic abuse if no one was injured or attacked?

2743091, Ah, fair. Obviously "out of character" then.
Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu Jul-15-21 10:02 AM
This is behavior that's consistent with someone having an episode but you are right that it's unfair to assume that's exactly what it is.

Just saying he's by all accounts a really smart solid guy and this is obviously a break from that reputation.

2743096, He wasn’t stealing anything. SMH
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 10:24 AM
1. They called it burglary because he entered the house without
permission.

2.They called it domestic violence because he was tussling with a family member.

3. They were trying to stop him from committing suicide because he
had threatened to kill himself, and sent out text messages that he was
going to hang himself.

Football players with CTE are more of a threat to themselves than they are to
family and friends....see junior seau, Dave Duerson, etc.






2743100, You literally don’t even know if he has CTE , right?
Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu Jul-15-21 10:35 AM
2743103, To not rule it in would be dumb and irrational
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 10:47 AM
considering he is a football player....with the many hits he has given an taken.

0-o

And it’s no way to examine a football player for CTE while they are alive...This
is why they don’t find out until the player is dead, because they are able to fully
examine the brain. It can only be diagnosed during an autopsy ..

This is why it should be highly considered.



2743108, who else ruled out CTE?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 11:13 AM
the problem is you are ruling out any other opinion that isn’t CTE related.
2743133, To answer the last question:
Posted by mrhood75, Thu Jul-15-21 12:58 PM

>Why is it domestic abuse if no one was injured or attacked?

It was domestic abuse burglary, which is what you get charged with you attempt to force entry into the home of a family member or spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend.
2743104, Not even gonna pretend to know the reason(s) behind this…
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jul-15-21 10:55 AM
CTE, life events, etc. Alcohol was involved, too. It said he fought with the police. I’m so fucking glad they didn’t kill him. Black men are killed for much less, by police. As someone who has struggled with depression, PTSD, suicidal thoughts…it’s a deep dark place to be. It’s hard as fuck to get out. Shit is sad to hear, man. Him being intelligent and thoughtful in interviews doesn’t mean shit, either. Facades are real.
2743116, 100%
Posted by pretentious username, Thu Jul-15-21 12:01 PM
Him being
>intelligent and thoughtful in interviews doesn’t mean shit,
>either. Facades are real.

Thanks for sharing your experience. When I was at my absolute worst a few years back, most of the people closest to me had no idea cause I had a facade going. This included friends, family, and roommates. My co-workers at the time thought I was a happy-go-lucky kinda guy.
2743118, Yeah, I guess him being a black intelligent man doesn’t mean shit
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 12:10 PM
so he isn’t afforded the benefit of the doubt....Its automatically seen as a facade.

Even after his ex-wife just said that isn’t his character and that he is a good human
being.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

SMH.

2743121, his wife is simply saying this isn’t how he acts everyday
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 12:23 PM
you can be an intelligent Black man and still end up in a dark place

Having a DUI and this on his record doesn’t erase his accomplishments.



2743122, You are completely out of line...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-15-21 12:28 PM
Dstl1 responded to the OP (not you) with respect for Sherman and his fam, sharing his personal experience with depression, PTSD, suicidal thoughts, etc.

Your snide remark was not only unwarranted, it was disrespectful.

*As previously stated, you've been chirping all over this thread at anyone that doesn't appear to agree with your assessment of this situation.

Chill.


>so he isn’t afforded the benefit of the doubt....Its
>automatically seen as a facade.
>
>Even after his ex-wife just said that isn’t his character
>and that he is a good human
>being.
>
>Thanks for sharing your opinion.
>
>SMH.





*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
2743124, I gave my opinion of his opinion.
Posted by allStah, Thu Jul-15-21 12:40 PM
That’s what I gave.

And I gave my opinion on other’s giving their opinion on my opinion....
and I wasn’t talking to them.

And Legs just responded to me responding to someone else....

So everyone is chirping.

2743127, Have a seat...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-15-21 12:44 PM
..my original statement stands.

You clearly have an issue with context. Your disrespect was completely unwarranted (and Dstl1 is one of the most level-headed/respected members of this community). I'm not going back & forth with you about this today.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
2743130, You also keep implying that everyone is calling him a dumb Black man
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 12:46 PM
if they don’t blame it on CTE

which is just weird.

Not one person has suggested Sherman isn’t an intelligent Black man.

2743131, take care, man…I honestly mean that
Posted by Dstl1, Thu Jul-15-21 12:49 PM
.
2743123, I hope Sherm gets the help he needs...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu Jul-15-21 12:35 PM
..no need to speculate.

I wish the best for him and his family and leave it at that.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
2743134, facts...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-15-21 01:00 PM
>..no need to speculate.
>
>I wish the best for him and his family and leave it at that.

2743136, yup
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Thu Jul-15-21 02:29 PM
2743164, ^^
Posted by dillinjah, Fri Jul-16-21 09:10 AM
>..no need to speculate.
>
>I wish the best for him and his family and leave it at that.
2743126, keep hearing reports of an ex-wife yet she said they are still married
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jul-15-21 12:43 PM
bit if they are in the process of a divorce or separation.. or just hit a rough patch, showing up drunk and threatening to kill himself aren’t really as shocking as first reported.

I have seen more than a few strong men completely broken during a separation/divorce.

We also say some crazy shit when we are drunk as hell with a broken heart.
2743153, More details (ESPN swipe)
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Thu Jul-15-21 08:27 PM
Judge orders Richard Sherman to be released from jail without bail with several conditions

ESPN News Services
7:05 PM ET
4 Minute Read

A judge ordered free-agent cornerback Richard Sherman released from jail without bail Thursday following his arrest on suspicion of trying to break into his in-laws' home northeast of Seattle.

King County District Court Judge Fa'amomoi Masaniai found probable cause that Sherman committed four offenses: misdemeanor and gross misdemeanor charges of criminal trespass in the second degree and malicious mischief in the third degree -- both carrying domestic violence designations -- and misdemeanor charges of resisting arrest and driving under the influence.

Prosecutors did not ask the judge for a finding on a felony residential burglary allegation for which he was initially booked. They have not yet filed charges, but a charging decision is expected as soon as Friday, according to a spokesperson with the King County prosecuting attorney's office.

Masaniai declined to set $10,000 bail as prosecutors requested. The judge called the 33-year-old Sherman, who did not attend the hearing, a "pillar of the community'' and noted that it was presumed he would be released because this was his first arrest. He ordered that Sherman not have contact with his father-in-law, that he not use alcohol or nonprescription drugs and that he not possess a weapon.

Sherman's next hearing is set for 2 p.m. PT on Friday. He does not have to be present for the hearing and can be represented by his attorney.

"I love and support my husband," Sherman's wife, Ashley Sherman, said in a statement after the hearing. "I am committed to helping Richard get the support and care that he needs. Richard has always been a loving father and husband. And we are looking forward to seeing him at home with his family.''

At Thursday's hearing, Sherman's attorney, Cooper Offenbecher, did not contest that probable cause existed for the arrest. But he said Sherman should be released without bail, noting his good works in the community, including founding the Blanket Coverage Foundation, a charity that provides low-income students with school supplies and clothes.

"Richard Sherman is among the best in our community,'' Offenbecher said. "He is a good person and a good soul. He is taking these allegations very seriously.''

Sherman was belligerent, had been drinking heavily and had spoken of killing himself when he left his home in the Seattle suburb of Maple Valley late Tuesday, according to police reports. Ashley Sherman called 911 to try to have police stop him.

He was arrested early Wednesday after police said he crashed his car in a construction zone along a busy highway east of Seattle and then tried to break into his in-laws' home in the suburb of Redmond.

His father-in-law, Raymond Moss, told officers that he armed himself with a handgun and fired pepper-spray at the NFL cornerback to protect his family as Sherman tried to bust in the door with his shoulder.

"The family began to yell in fear,'' Moss told police. "I used pepper spray on Sherman's face through the partially opened door as he was still banging and attempting to gain entry. I told him to stop. I armed myself with my handgun at this time fearing for the safety of myself and my family.''

Officers were cautious about arresting Sherman because of his size, strength and belligerence, according to police reports released Thursday. After trying to deescalate the situation, they decided to use less lethal force after warning Sherman that they would if he didn't comply with their orders.

They could not use a Taser because they worried about igniting whatever chemical Sherman's father-in-law had sprayed him with and could not fire a bean-bag round because they were too close to him. Instead, they released a police dog, which bit his ankle and caused a minor cut, as other officers wrestled with him on the ground, the reports say.

In February, King County prosecutors and the sheriff obtained an "extreme risk protection order'' for Sherman, which barred him from having guns after a judge determined he posed a danger to himself or others. Details of the case were sealed, and it was not immediately clear if any weapons had been seized from him.

Ashley Sherman told police her husband had been on antidepressants and was receiving mental health counseling.

ESPN's Brady Henderson and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
2743159, Video of him outside door
Posted by Soldado, Fri Jul-16-21 12:12 AM
https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1415836388168196099

Apparently his (ex?)father-in-law is a retired cop. Sherm is lucky Pops ain't open the door and let that thang rang off.
2743161, and be known as the man that killed Richard Sherman?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 08:18 AM
>https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1415836388168196099
>
>Apparently his (ex?)father-in-law is a retired cop. Sherm is
>lucky Pops ain't open the door and let that thang rang off.
2805226, Damn, man…
Posted by Dstl1, Sun Feb-25-24 12:09 PM
he wasn’t even out of his 2 year, monitored supervision.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/richard-sherman-remains-in-custody-following-arrest-for-suspicion-of-dui
2805241, smh just fumbling the bag
Posted by Lach, Sun Feb-25-24 10:23 PM
2805242, Yep…that Amazon bread gone
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Feb-26-24 12:23 AM
.
2805243, man has some serious issues
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Feb-26-24 09:27 AM
Just get a fucking uber, wtf.