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2742761, Team USA about to lose to Nigeria?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jul-10-21 08:49 PM
2742766, Congrats Coach Mike Brown!
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jul-10-21 09:05 PM
2742770, Right. And I don't want to hear shit about it just being an exhibition
Posted by Beezo, Sat Jul-10-21 09:22 PM
2742772, Soon as I seen this, I knew shit wasn't sweet.
Posted by Soldado, Sat Jul-10-21 10:10 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcoRomo_/status/1414022436409036804

It was just an exhibition but it should serve as a wake up call. This ain't the 90s. The gap between the US and the rest of the world ain't anywhere near as wide as it used to be.
2742775, Yup. No gloating. Just a block and business.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sat Jul-10-21 10:14 PM
Even when they won the Nigerian team acted like it wasnt no thing. Very impressive.
2742773, They went right back to that 2004 team building mentality.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sat Jul-10-21 10:12 PM
You cant just throw a bunch of NBA players and shooting guards together and think it will work. It still has to be built with cohesion and accurate players at each position. Though so many players opted out im not sure they had much of a choice.
2742777, "KD is the best player in the world."
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jul-10-21 10:45 PM
2742774, Play Jerami more
Posted by DJR, Sat Jul-10-21 10:12 PM
*I have no idea how much he actually played. But play him more.
2742778, and when the Finals are over Brook Lopez should have Kevin Love's spot
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jul-10-21 10:47 PM
2742779, Love played less than anyone today.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Jul-10-21 11:29 PM
And Lopez wouldn’t have played either against a team hellbent on tossing up perimeter shots all game. They played Precious Achiuwa at center— neither Love nor Lopez has the agility or speed to hang with a small ball 5 like that.
2742781, RE: Love played less than anyone today.
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-11-21 12:17 AM
>And Lopez wouldn’t have played either against a team
>hellbent on tossing up perimeter shots all game. They played
>Precious Achiuwa at center— neither Love nor Lopez has the
>agility or speed to hang with a small ball 5 like that.

So what was Bam doing? His dad is Nigerian so did he throw it?
2742782, He wasn’t playing well.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-11-21 12:30 AM
I’m not especially surprised to see some of these guys that haven’t represented USA on a big stage like this before struggle due to phoning it in versus a team they should easily beat. Bam, Dame, LaVine, and Beal and Tatum haven’t played for USA since, like, the U-19s or something. Of course, all of them struggling together wasn’t especially likely, nor was the opponent shooting 48% from 3 on a billion shots—but still.

Durant *has* to be the experienced leader and take over games like this, but he too probably heard “scrimmage” and thought “fuck it.” To a lesser extent, the team needs Draymond to be a vocal leader too for the defense. And whether it’s fair to Bam or not, he’s *got* to carry a ton of the defense on his shoulders as easily USA’s most talented and versatile big. He can’t be our main big and get beat up by guys like Achiuwa and Okpala.

I don’t expect this sort of “I don’t give a shit” vibe to carry over into the games that count, for whatever that’s worth. Still embarrassing, still shouldn’t have happened.
2742780, If your opponent shoots 48% from 3 on 42 attempts?
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Jul-10-21 11:36 PM
You’re gonna lose. Not complicated.

Nigeria shot 12-31 from 2… and 20-42 from 3! Bonkers, lmao. How you gonna shoot 38% from 2 and 48% from 3? So wild.

Anyway. Good wake up call for USA. 100% chance that most international teams know that the recipe to beating USA is the same recipe so many mid-majors use against high-majors in college: toss up a ton of 3s and hope for a good shooting night. Like, you just *can’t* assume, at a time when more elite 3-point shooters exist than ever before in basketball history, that an inferior opponent will miss enough shots that you can just out-talent them on offense with some my turn, your turn stuff.

Of course, it’s also super unlikely that your opponent shoots 48% from 3 on a massive volume, lol. But hey, shit *can* happen. Guys like Dame need to give a fuck about contesting 3s, otherwise some squad can absolutely sneak up on USA by tossing in a fuckton of 3s. Especially now, every team will try to replicate this. Defend the goddamn perimeter some, lol.
2742792, We’re making posts about exhibition games now?
Posted by allStah, Sun Jul-11-21 09:26 AM
The purpose of an exhibition game is to build chemistry, learn the offense,
and to get a concept of what the starting lineup is going to be.

Those are the types of takes that should be given. The first Dream
Team was beaten by college kids in practice, and people didn’t really find
out about that until a documentary was released on the team.


2742793, What if Nigeria had Giannis?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-11-21 09:34 AM
2742794, Absolutely Pathetic. They picked on Lillard hard in the 4th too
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jul-11-21 09:56 AM
had the Copa final on the tv but i had this on the 2nd screen. they got a lot to work on that I dont think Booker/Jrue/Khris/Bropez (is Bropez on the team?) really solve other than adding more numbers
2742808, Jrue and Khris at least each play defense.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-11-21 02:11 PM
But yeah, I think the Lillard defense concerns in international play are real unless he's going Dame Time Mode. Too many teams understand that he's a weak link on the perimeter that can be bullied-- and without someone like Anthony Davis or whoever who can both protect the rim *and* switch on the perimeter, you're left with either (a) choosing drop coverage, where teams that can shoot (i.e. most international teams) can pick you apart, or (b) choosing all switchability, which is a good idea... but best believe the weak link better not suck, or he's gonna get fried repeatedly.

I *do* think Dame can be a little more feisty in the actual play-- again, the team just looked to be coasting for much of the game, and USA would be favored over Nigeria by more than 20 in a game that counted. But yeah, there are lessons to be taken from this, both by USA and by USA's competition.
2742911, where are the big men in American basketball? Bam Adebayo who played...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-12-21 03:25 PM
for the US but has a Nigerian father and could've been on the other side...

Giannis is called the "Greek" freak but his parents are from Nigeria...

Embiid is from Cameroon...

Clint Capela was born in Switzerland but his parents are from Africa...

Rudy Gobert is from France...

Deandre Ayton is from the Bahamas...

KAT's mother is Dominican and he played for their national team...

Nikola Jokić is from Serbia...

Domantas Sabonis was born in Portland but obviously his father is from Lithuania...

I could go on, Vučević, Valančiūnas, Kristaps Porziņģis, Nurkić, Kanter...

Why is it that American players shy away from the center position? Is it still the Shaq effect? Is Kevin Love really the best we have?

The best American born big man is probably Anthony Davis and he is adamant about "not being a center"...
2742939, bout to lose to Australia SMH!
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jul-12-21 08:48 PM
this team in trouble if these reinforcements dont hit right
2742940, 91-83 smfh
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Jul-12-21 08:54 PM
imma need Beal, Tatum, Lavine to humble themselves and focus on hard D and rebounding. somebody gotta suck it up and do the dirty work like Kobe did for team USA
2742942, Hollinger had a great point on Twitter re: USA/Canada’s struggles.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jul-12-21 09:12 PM
He pointed out that a lot of these less talented teams have been playing together literally since they were teenagers, for like 10-15 years. In these early matchups and/or scrimmage situations, you can’t just assume that the team with the most talent and far less experience playing together can phone in a win against a squad that knows their rotations, knows their cut timings, knows their teammates’ ins and outs flawlessly.

USA will still be the favorite to win gold irrespective of these scrimmages. But they are definitely learning a valuable lesson. If they don’t get on the same page as soon as they can, shit’s gonna get real in a way they can’t just talent their way back from.
2742945, The end
Posted by Beezo, Mon Jul-12-21 09:42 PM

>USA will still be the favorite to win gold irrespective of
>these scrimmages. But they are definitely learning a valuable
>lesson. If they don’t get on the same page as soon as they
>can, shit’s gonna get real in a way they can’t just talent
>their way back from.

2742946, facts...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-12-21 09:45 PM
>He pointed out that a lot of these less talented teams have
>been playing together literally since they were teenagers, for
>like 10-15 years. In these early matchups and/or scrimmage
>situations, you can’t just assume that the team with the
>most talent and far less experience playing together can phone
>in a win against a squad that knows their rotations, knows
>their cut timings, knows their teammates’ ins and outs
>flawlessly.
2742949, The Redeem Team era teams had continuity.
Posted by obsidianchrysalis, Mon Jul-12-21 10:11 PM
That was a key reason why they played well.

Recently, it's been hard to get players to commit cycle-to-cycle. I have no real idea why. But the lack of in-game experience between players may come back to hurt Team USA.

Rolling the ball out there and expecting blowouts for Team USA just isn't a reality now.
2742950, that's why I don't think Pop is a good coach for Team USA...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-12-21 10:25 PM
>That was a key reason why they played well.
>
>Recently, it's been hard to get players to commit
>cycle-to-cycle. I have no real idea why. But the lack of
>in-game experience between players may come back to hurt Team
>USA.
>
>Rolling the ball out there and expecting blowouts for Team USA
>just isn't a reality now.

he is more of a "system coach" and players don't have time to learn or by into his system
2742941, They miss Captain Carmelo
Posted by DJR, Mon Jul-12-21 09:04 PM
2742951, Bad karma for that “distraction” bullshit
Posted by DJR, Mon Jul-12-21 10:26 PM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/08/carmelo-anthony-denied-team-usa-chance

2742943, So are these dudes about to waste a summer playing ISO ball and
Posted by RandomFact, Mon Jul-12-21 09:16 PM
jacking up 3's? While playing little defense? didn't watch but I assume this is the case.

some of these guys would be better served taking a full summer off to work on their individual games if that's the case. might as well go play in the drew in la and not waste the time in empty stadiums and a tokyo olympic village bubble. that shit is a significant tease. being in one of the most incredible cities in the world but not being able to do shit. but i digress.
2742965, RE: So are these dudes about to waste a summer playing ISO ball and
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Tue Jul-13-21 10:14 AM
>jacking up 3's? While playing little defense?

that's pretty much what happened
draymond basically ran point when he was in the game but had several turnovers
2742944, International teams also have NBA players.
Posted by allStah, Mon Jul-12-21 09:33 PM
They are not going up against untalented players.

Chill out.
2742947, they should still be able to beat Joe Ingles & Patty Mills
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-12-21 09:50 PM
2742959, Here’s the question. Will they beat Argentina today?
Posted by Beezo, Tue Jul-13-21 08:56 AM
2742962, Put it this way: if they lose today...
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jul-13-21 09:41 AM
... I bet their Vegas odds at winning gold will fall to somewhere between -250 and -300, and Daddy might have to hammer that, lol. Scrimmage issues or no, that would be a *bonkers* line for a Team USA team that has at least five of the best ten players in the field.
2742963, it will be interesting, Argentina was the 4th ranked team coming in but...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jul-13-21 09:52 AM
they lost by 23 to Nigeria a couple of das ago so who knows
2742984, No Tatum no problem. Was that the get right game?
Posted by Beezo, Tue Jul-13-21 11:42 PM
2742986, I don't know, Argentina isn't as good as it was in the past, Scola might...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-14-21 07:55 AM
still be their best player and he's like 40
2742988, Nigeria smoked them like we did
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jul-14-21 08:11 AM
Then Australia smoked Nigeria

So I guess the good thing is at least we didn’t lose a 3rd time. Hopefully they are figuring some things out
2742990, You mofos are disgusting,
Posted by allStah, Wed Jul-14-21 09:06 AM
and deserve to have Sri Lanka as a basketball team.

You guys are such shallow spectators....When they win gold,
y’all better sit there and not say shit!


2742995, and if they don't?
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-14-21 10:32 AM
>When they win gold,
>y’all better sit there and not say shit!

2743071, Beal in "healthy and safety" protocols? Book better hurry up
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-15-21 08:00 AM
2743137, Beal out, maybe Jerami Grant too...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-15-21 02:53 PM
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31823595/bradley-beal-expected-miss-olympics-jerami-grant-enters-protocols-sources-say
2743152, Trae Young channels Isiah Thomas with apparent idea on Team USA...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jul-15-21 08:07 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/trae-young-channels-isiah-thomas-has-ideas-about-who-should-replace-bradley-beal-on-team-usa-001406704.html
2743155, That Zeke clip will never get old. Never
Posted by Beezo, Thu Jul-15-21 09:34 PM
2743163, "I met the criteria to be selected, but I wasn't."
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 08:37 AM
2743157, USA vs Australia cancelled.
Posted by Beezo, Thu Jul-15-21 10:56 PM
Taking no chances
2743162, Women's team has some drama too, the National team lost to the WNBA...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 08:35 AM
All-Stars in the WNBA all-star game.

The Sparks Nneka Owguimike, a 6-time All-Star and former league MVP was selected for neither team, the first league MVP to never play in the Olympics.

Then she was told she couldn't play for Nigeria in the Olympics where she has dual-citizenship because she had played for other FIBA teams with the US?
2743165, Apparently Elizabeth Williams of the Atlanta Dream was also denied...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 09:17 AM
the opportunity to play for team Nigeria for similar reasons as NNeka...

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31818962/let-nneka-ogwumike-play-nigeria-fiba-bad-decision-bad-basketball
2743169, The MVP can’t get a spot?? Ridiculous
Posted by Beezo, Fri Jul-16-21 10:07 AM
2743171, she was MVP in 2016 and was snubbed then, after this second time...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 10:18 AM
of not being selected for the US Olympic she should be allowed to play for whomever she wants
2743167, KLove out. “Still recovering from calf injury” per Woj Twitter
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Jul-16-21 09:56 AM
2743168, hasn't he been dealing with that same injury for a while?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 10:00 AM
2743170, its time for Jerry Colangelo to step down too, he has definitely fucked...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 10:15 AM
the dog on this one and there is no Michael, Kobe or Lebron to bail him out.

They need to be on phone with Trae and Julius ASAP.
2743173, It would dope if they could bring in Zion.
Posted by Soldado, Fri Jul-16-21 11:03 AM
But you know that dude ain't in no types of playing shape.
2743174, RE: It would dope if they could bring in Zion.
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 11:10 AM
>But you know that dude ain't in no types of playing shape.

he's probably sitting over a shrimp po' boy with a bowl of gumbo and a plate of praline beignets right now lol
2743177, Fat Zion better than more a third of the roster tho.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Jul-16-21 11:58 AM
Let him play with buttery fingers, IDGAF, lol.
2743175, JaVale McGee and Keldon Johnson added to the roster.
Posted by Soldado, Fri Jul-16-21 11:54 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1416078483168665606
2743176, Well that should do it
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jul-16-21 11:55 AM
2743178, Yeah, Javale is a WILD pick. They’re getting turned down everywhere.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Jul-16-21 11:58 AM
2743180, nobody wants to play for Pop like nobody wanted to play for LB
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 12:07 PM
2743183, nobody wants to play in empty stadiums while in a tokyo bubble
Posted by RandomFact, Fri Jul-16-21 12:53 PM
the best part about being in tokyo is hanging out in tokyo. these guys will only see tokyo from the bus. i wouldn't want anything to do with these olympics either.

and who doesn't like pop? seriously? has anyone ever spoken poorly of the guy?
2743188, that's true also...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 04:23 PM
>the best part about being in tokyo is hanging out in tokyo.
>these guys will only see tokyo from the bus. i wouldn't want
>anything to do with these olympics either.
>
>and who doesn't like pop? seriously? has anyone ever spoken
>poorly of the guy?

despite his winning tenure free agents haven't exactly flocked to go play for him.

Most of the modern players don't take well to his leadership style. It worked well in San Antonio because it started with David Robinson who was a military guy that fell in line and he passed that mentality down to Duncan.

Kawhi couldn't wait to get away from there. He had success with those guys putting foreign guys around them and when that ran out you see what the Spurs' record has been the last couple of years.
2743196, I don't know if that's exactly true.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jul-16-21 05:24 PM
Aldridge was a marquee free agent when he signed there.

Kawhi did bolt, but I was always under the impression that was his dissatisfaction with how they handled his injury, which was clearly worse than they thought it was. To my knowledge they haven't really had cap space to be in the mix for any FA's post LMA. Perhaps people don't like Pop, but let's not act like they've continually struck out on people.
2743197, exactly, LMA is the ONLY major FA the Spurs have signed in 25 years?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 05:42 PM
2743198, I mean, they kind of had a lot of money committed to stars
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jul-16-21 05:50 PM
Due to drafting well.

They went from DRob to DRob/TD to TD/Manu/TP to TD/Manu/TP/Kawhi and then signed a premiere FA when the opportunity was there.

Granted, the other time I can remember a FA flirting with SA was Kidd back after the Nets lost to them in the Finals. Kinda makes sense that DIDNT happen but it didn't seem like Pop was a real issue. I dunno - maybe he was - but let's not act like they had a bunch of cap space they had to spend like ever. They had a bunch of all stars.
2743200, what about now?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 06:24 PM
2743202, They have money this offseason.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jul-16-21 06:58 PM
We’ll see.

I’m just saying you can’t really in earnest say that about the Duncan spurs.
2743205, lol…
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 07:51 PM
>We’ll see.
>
>I’m just saying you can’t really in earnest say that about
>the Duncan spurs.

Tim Duncan has been retired for 5 years he’s in the HOF
2743207, What in the world does that have to do with what I said
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jul-16-21 08:13 PM
2743211, you're talking like Tim Duncan just retired lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 08:50 PM
2743215, No I’m not.
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Jul-17-21 12:15 AM
You mentioned 25 years of the Spurs. He was there for what…19 of them?
2743220, the Spurs have gotten progressively worse since he retired
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jul-17-21 08:16 AM
2743224, would you like to stay on topic or is that too hard for you
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Jul-17-21 09:43 AM
2743225, nobody wants to play for Pop like nobody wanted to play for LB
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Jul-17-21 09:51 AM
2743405, serious fan fiction vibes lol
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Mon Jul-19-21 07:23 PM

>
>despite his winning tenure free agents haven't exactly flocked
>to go play for him.
>
>Most of the modern players don't take well to his leadership
>style. It worked well in San Antonio because it started with
>David Robinson who was a military guy that fell in line and he
>passed that mentality down to Duncan.
>
>Kawhi couldn't wait to get away from there. He had success
>with those guys putting foreign guys around them and when that
>ran out you see what the Spurs' record has been the last
>couple of years.

2743190, Pop’s got nothing to do with this
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Jul-16-21 04:54 PM
The weirdest olympics + COVID is popping off in Tokyo + a short offseason + many stars are injured.
2743192, nobody wanted to play for him in 2019 BEFORE COVID
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 05:09 PM
2743208, Does anyone really care about non-Olympic competition?
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Jul-16-21 08:13 PM
Team USA basketball is as close to a guarantee to getting Olympic gold as you can get, regardless of who is coaching. And even if you hate the coach, you only gotta deal with him for like a month and you get a medal out of the deal. Why would the top stars care about any other tournament if they can just join on when it really matters? This year is just a weird exception for the reasons I listed. That’s why people are shocked that Durant joined on and Booker is still going to.
2743212, look at previous FIBA World Championship rosters
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 08:52 PM
2743181, I don't blame the players from turning this down one bit.
Posted by Numba_33, Fri Jul-16-21 12:15 PM
The COVID situation in Japan is much much worse than it is in America right now. It seems as if playing in the Olympics is a worse version of playing in the bubble in terms of the solitude the players are subjected to. Can't venture out and see Japan and they have to play without fans in the stands. And the players aren't getting paid for it? And they have to eat into their off-season time to rest up and/or improve to their skillsets and/or bulk up with a good strength and training regimen?
2743182, exactly, that too...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri Jul-16-21 12:36 PM
>The COVID situation in Japan is much much worse than it is in
>America right now. It seems as if playing in the Olympics is a
>worse version of playing in the bubble in terms of the
>solitude the players are subjected to. Can't venture out and
>see Japan and they have to play without fans in the stands.
>And the players aren't getting paid for it? And they have to
>eat into their off-season time to rest up and/or improve to
>their skillsets and/or bulk up with a good strength and
>training regimen?
2743216, I’m pissed Durant is playing….I need him healthy going into 21-22 $$$
Posted by guru0509, Sat Jul-17-21 02:04 AM
>The COVID situation in Japan is much much worse than it is in
>America right now. It seems as if playing in the Olympics is a
>worse version of playing in the bubble in terms of the
>solitude the players are subjected to. Can't venture out and
>see Japan and they have to play without fans in the stands.
>And the players aren't getting paid for it? And they have to
>eat into their off-season time to rest up and/or improve to
>their skillsets and/or bulk up with a good strength and
>training regimen?
2743396, fuckin up your ticket values? lmao
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Jul-19-21 03:55 PM
2743836, Lol & I want the nets to be healthy when the Pistons come to town
Posted by guru0509, Mon Jul-26-21 08:45 AM
>


So there’s no excuse when we beat them
2743354, USA vs Spain on now. NBCSN
Posted by Beezo, Sun Jul-18-21 08:08 PM
2743355, yep they're trying to give us work too lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-18-21 08:27 PM
2743358, Javale can’t get no bump?! Damn
Posted by Beezo, Sun Jul-18-21 09:16 PM
2743389, LaVine placed in COVID-19 protocols, won't fly to Tokyo with team...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-19-21 02:46 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/team-us-as-zach-lavine-placed-in-covid-19-protocols-wont-fly-to-tokyo-with-team-193737155.html
2743391, At what point is this a horrible idea
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Jul-19-21 03:07 PM
And why was it a month ago
2743392, the Olympics themselves or having training camp in Las Vegas?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-19-21 03:22 PM
2743395, Both.
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jul-19-21 03:52 PM
There were signs months ago that the Delta variant was going to mess things up, yet they still pushed ahead with the Olympics. And holding training camp in a wild-ass city filled with people who don't GAF was pretty fucking stupid.
2743398, After punting in 2020 no way were they not doing it this year
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-19-21 04:04 PM
2743399, The way this is going they might not.
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Jul-19-21 04:15 PM
And I don’t mean basketball. I mean the Olympics. This seems very very dumb.
2743400, like everything it comes down money, should we be having packed arenas...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-19-21 04:34 PM
(inside and out) for these NBA Finals games?
2743401, No of course not
Posted by Ryan M, Mon Jul-19-21 05:06 PM
But at least I can wrap my head around it in the US because our vaccine rollout has been as successful as the willingness to take it.

Japan is only at 21% of the population vaccinated - and then factor in the other countries participating. I dunno enough to know what IS a good time to do these and I feel for all the athletes but this seems like a very dumb idea - and worse than the fans in the stands at US games.
2743397, YES!
Posted by Dstl1, Mon Jul-19-21 04:01 PM
.
2743394, zach had covid in april. not sure what the situation is in this case
Posted by RandomFact, Mon Jul-19-21 03:47 PM
but fuck man, delta isn't playing. that 63% vaccine efficacy against symptomatic covid out of israel seems to be holding up here, unsurprisingly. today the markets seem to agree with this sentiment as well.

time to rein in the hot boy summer vibes a bit. i would prefer not to even get a "common cold" from this shit.
2743402, Good grief.
Posted by Beezo, Mon Jul-19-21 05:29 PM
2743791, France closes game on 16-2 run to beat USA
Posted by Oak27, Sun Jul-25-21 09:05 AM
2743793, Pathetic. Unacceptable
Posted by DJR, Sun Jul-25-21 09:29 AM
2743795, Some said folks were overreacting to the exhibition games. Now what?
Posted by Beezo, Sun Jul-25-21 09:42 AM
2743796, They let Evan Fournier somehow become Jordan. Crazy to watch.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Jul-25-21 09:59 AM
2743797, Random thoughts and excuses
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Sun Jul-25-21 10:23 AM
First and foremost, Who cares

As the gap has closed international teams still have clear go to guys
And those guys are good enough to take over- even in the NBa for short stretches.

The spacing and pace of the international game is just different and these guys are more used to it. You can’t play with the same space and pace

The international stars don’t have to worry about ball hogging and hero ball. Where you we see early on — nobody really on team USAwants to be “that guy” who just playing like a dick with other stars.

These guys ain’t really out here playing their hardest— especially on D. There’s only one ball so if you’re gonna shoot lots of 3s with this kind of slower pace, you really gotta shoot well.

I’d rather see a bunch of these nba players on a couple of American 3on3 teams using their 1-1 and ball skills to dominate that game now.

2743816, Fournier is actually a very, very not bad NBA player, though.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Jul-25-21 03:14 PM

So it's not totally insane for him to have a big game

Dude can score

2743798, Finger has to be pointed at coaching.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-25-21 10:30 AM
I know people will say “but the USA doesn’t have their top guys—“ fam, let me stop you right there, lol. There’s enough talent on Team USA to go undefeated, and it’s not close.

Chemistry is certainly an issue, as a lot of these international teams have played together for years so they know how to play together better… but coaching is the bigger issue. Space the floor better. Create driving lanes. Pressure harder on defense, force the opponent’s issue. If our halfcourt is struggling, create transition opportunities. And get the fuck on these guys if they don’t defend.

Not to be “The Duke Guy” here, but K may just be notably better at managing egos and assigning roles on a team like this than Pop is.

Also all of this may be an overreaction, as clearly the final few minutes involved some anomalously bad shooting on open attempts by USA. Like, make 1 or 2 open shots, and USA wins, and this conversation takes a very different tone. But still, the talent is there to make it so the game shouldn’t have even had an opportunity to go that way.
2743799, Eh, talent isn’t at the same level
Posted by DJR, Sun Jul-25-21 11:19 AM
Like, in 2008 those non Bron/Kobe guys (Melo, Wade, CP3) were all at a higher level than the non-KD guys on this team.

2008 had 3 point guards(Deron when he was good, Kidd, CP3) that brought things to the table that nobody on this team does.

lots of “stars” but non-elite guys on this current team, and no real PG.
2743802, Sure, but compare this year's roster to present competition.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-25-21 11:52 AM
Obviously having prime Bron is a massive advantage that certainly made K's life easier, that goes without saying, lol. And there's also no doubt that the international teams are improving.

But outside of Johnson and McGee, *every player* on this roster has been an All-Star. Like, this is a substantially better roster than the 2004 Bronze roster. There are thirteen All-Stars in the field, ten of them on our roster. There are six All-NBA players in the field, three of them on our roster. Like, winning a couple of games by single digits because the team's sleepwalking? Okay. But we should be winning Olympic basketball games by an average of 18-20+ with this roster. The talent advantage is just enormous.

K had those spells where the team was sleepwalking too-- obviously look at 2016, where we only had something like two returning Olympians, and we won one-possession games against Serbia and France, because you can't sleepwalk against a team that's played together as long as some of the international teams have. But then, of course, in the gold medal game, we beat that same Serbia team by 30 (the spread was something like 15, I remember because I smashed USA to cover, lol). And I think the lowest average margin of victory was also 2016, and it was still easily over 20 points per game. Even if 2021's talent is worse, it's still easily enough to be winning on average by, at minimum, 15+.

And we've got a PG in Lillard who should be fine for what we need. The roster honestly has a ton of guys who can pass and move the ball really well. We needed a better game plan for their bigs. (Which, as we may recall, is why Pop said Kevin Love was on the roster originally-- specifically to play against Gobert in the France game.) Credit to France-- going two centers when the NBA goes increasingly with no true centers is something that the USA players just weren't equipped to handle unless they were knocking down 3s (which they weren't).
2743868, Point guard
Posted by DJR, Mon Jul-26-21 03:11 PM
Seems like if you’re going the “just throw a bunch of all stars together” route you need PG’s that are primarily distributors. Dame is great, but that’s not him.
2743971, That'd be a bigger issue if none of these guys were good passers.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Jul-28-21 12:48 PM
But they are. Like... nearly everyone of consequence on the roster is a good passer. Two of the top 5 Americans in the NBA in assists per game last year are on this team. 3 of the top 15 Americans. 5 of the top 25 Americans.

And outside of *maybe* Chris Paul, there really isn't a pure PG in the NBA who's an actual star that people would respect on the roster. All the leading assist guys are combo guards who also just happen to be really good passers. I don't think, like, Lonzo Ball or TJ McConnell would've made much of an impact here, because Durant, Lillard, or Tatum aren't deferring on playmaking to them.
2743800, And to think I almost woke up early to watch
Posted by Amritsar, Sun Jul-25-21 11:27 AM
2743809, I woke up early and spent 30 mins tryna find peacock
Posted by Cenario, Sun Jul-25-21 01:05 PM
2743803, embarrasing. this about to be a stain on Pop legacy
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jul-25-21 12:18 PM
2743818, as it should be
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-25-21 04:16 PM
>
2743827, "My next chapter" - Kevin Durant
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Sun Jul-25-21 09:41 PM
https://twitter.com/FlamesNBA21/status/1419297924966670336?s=19
2743806, Still lmaoing at Draymond being on this team
Posted by guru0509, Sun Jul-25-21 12:36 PM
>
If the warriors never drafted him he wouldn’t be there .


2743822, Lol…. Mascot
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun Jul-25-21 05:17 PM
2743825, lol it’s hilarious how hard people try to extoll his basketball “genius”
Posted by guru0509, Sun Jul-25-21 06:49 PM
Like we didn’t see him look like total dogshit for a whole season . Lost as fuck

mr triple single indeed


2743832, Umm he was a defensive dynamo this season, fuck y'all talking about
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jul-26-21 07:54 AM

And y'all act like his "genius" stuff comes from anyone
other than PLAYERS and COACHES. They came up with that
because they SEE IT on the court

Media sure as hell didn't create that narrative
2743835, 🤣 at “dynamo”
Posted by guru0509, Mon Jul-26-21 08:17 AM
Thanks for that laugh this morning . I got meetings all day and am dreading it

>
>And y'all act like his "genius" stuff comes from anyone
>other than PLAYERS and COACHES. They came up with that
>because they SEE IT on the court



>Media sure as hell didn't create that narrative

“Among polled NBA players , Draymond Green was named Most Overrated Player in the NBA, earning 17 percent of the votes. Also earning votes in this category were: Jimmy Butler, Andrew Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns (6.3 percent) and James Harden, Ben Simmons, LeBron James Kyle Lowry (4.2 percent).
2743846, that's pretty good company.
Posted by Cenario, Mon Jul-26-21 11:18 AM

>
>“Among polled NBA players , Draymond Green was named Most
>Overrated Player in the NBA, earning 17 percent of the votes.
>Also earning votes in this category were: Jimmy Butler, Andrew
>Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns (6.3 percent) and James
>Harden, Ben Simmons, LeBron James Kyle Lowry (4.2 percent).
>
2743861, Agreed , they are all overrated except for Kat and Bron.
Posted by guru0509, Mon Jul-26-21 02:25 PM
All those votes for Kat was probably Jimmy Butler voting multiple times

Nba player opinions >> media and Reddit nerds


>>
>>“Among polled NBA players , Draymond Green was named Most
>>Overrated Player in the NBA, earning 17 percent of the
>votes.
>>Also earning votes in this category were: Jimmy Butler,
>Andrew
>>Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns (6.3 percent) and James
>>Harden, Ben Simmons, LeBron James Kyle Lowry (4.2 percent).
>>
>
2743973, You're not going to refute Harden being over-rated?
Posted by Numba_33, Wed Jul-28-21 12:59 PM
2743840, He was easily the best defender on a Top 5 defense this season.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jul-26-21 10:25 AM
Wiggins and Oubre put up negative defensive box plus-minus numbers on the season, and Curry put up a defensive box plus-minus of exactly zero. The four guys who played easily the most minutes this season were three net negative impact defenders... and Draymond. And their defensive rating was Top 5 in the NBA.

Like... he made All-Defensive First Team for a reason, lol. Anyone acting like he doesn't create obvious value on a basketball team is just shoveling an agenda.

Also, in a game where Durant, Lillard, and Tatum combine for sub-30% shooting and a negative assist-to-turnover ratio... Green isn't close to where the finger should be pointed, lol. The finger starts with the coach, then goes to three of the four best players in the entire Olympic field for shitting the bed collectively.
2743848, *yawn*
Posted by guru0509, Mon Jul-26-21 11:23 AM
>Wiggins and Oubre put up negative defensive box plus-minus
>numbers on the season, and Curry put up a defensive box
>plus-minus of exactly zero. The four guys who played easily
>the most minutes this season were three net negative impact
>defenders... and Draymond. And their defensive rating was Top
>5 in the NBA.


Lmao he got fucking torched by Evan Fournier yesterday morning . Stop it .



>Like... he made All-Defensive First Team for a reason, lol.
>Anyone acting like he doesn't create obvious value on a
>basketball team is just shoveling an agenda.

Omgz like totally ! But like , I can like think of like so many more players than would be better on this team like totes mcgotes!!!


>Green isn't close to where the finger should be pointed, lol.
>The finger starts with the coach, then goes to three of the
>four best players in the entire Olympic field for shitting the
>bed collectively.

Obviously, but Draybronze is garbage
2743863, You don't like Draymond. We get it.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jul-26-21 02:32 PM
lol
2743966, The warriors finished 9th in the West with Draymonds defensive greatness
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jul-28-21 12:02 PM
2744900, This aged very well....in the sense that it didnt.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Aug-08-21 11:54 AM
2744907, right lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Aug-08-21 05:01 PM
2743814, I feel like the US has problems when we try to play "international ball"...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-25-21 02:19 PM
the first 3 coaches in 92,96, and 2000, Daly, Wilkens and Tomjanovich let guys play. We dictated instead of trying to adapt to their style of play.

Then in 2004 they brought Larry Brown in with is system trying to "play the right" way and we struggled.

Coach K came in and let guys play and we dictated in 08, 12, & 16.

Then we went back dug up Larry Brown's top assistant from 2004 and are getting the same results. Pop doesn't relate to the modern NBA player and his teams' recent records show that. At this point we might be lucky to get bronze.

The 2019 FIBA World Championship was a precursor to what's happening now like 2002 was for the 2004 Olympics.

Colangelo needs to sit his ass down and let Grant Hill take over.

In the Olympics where the players have a short time to get together they don't have time to learn a new "system" they need a player's coach that will let them play. Give somebody like Monty Williams or Nate McMillan a shot.

It seems like now the international teams play more physical like we used to while we're running around jacking up 3's.



2743815, what a silly PTI level thing to say lmao
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Jul-25-21 02:53 PM
>Then we went back dug up Larry Brown's top assistant from 2004
>and are getting the same results. Pop doesn't relate to the
>modern NBA player and his teams' recent records show that. At
>this point we might be lucky to get bronze.

anybody with the sense God gave a tadpole can see that the Spurs problem is picking outside the top 25 for the last 25 years

its the same thing that eventually sank the Detroit Red Wings

late round foreign gems kept both teams afloat for a long time, and then when everyone else's scouting caught up it was just a matter of time.

on top of that, Gregg Popovich been talkin about it openly and honestly longer than just about any white dude in sports. that has to mean something to players
2743817, Softridge is the only significant free agent he signed, as it has been…
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-25-21 04:15 PM
said nobody wanted to play for Pop in 2019 for the FIBA championships, he is an old coach that needs to retire instead of have swan songs at the expense of USA basketball
2743839, all the analysts on tv are basically saying the same thing I said, Pop's...
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-26-21 10:23 AM
style of coaching is not suited for a team USA format regardless of his social justice statements
2743820, First loss since 2004?
Posted by legsdiamond, Sun Jul-25-21 04:34 PM
These international teams are catching up..

The NBA Finals MVP isn’t American.

Its a new day America.

2743826, RE: First loss since 2004?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-25-21 07:46 PM
>These international teams are catching up..

people have been saying since 2004, even before that

>The NBA Finals MVP isn’t American.

the regular season MVP isn't either

>Its a new day America.

I still say we need to let guys play instead of trying to play an "international" style make them adapt to us, I know the rules are different but at the end of the day its still basketball
2743972, Some of these international teams are NBA caliber
Posted by Cocobrotha2, Wed Jul-28-21 12:48 PM
It's not a huge statement considering how many ex and current NBA players they have on their rosters but it matters in the sense that they're no longer in awe of our team. The international teams are also not falling over themselves for autographs like loyal citizens of Zamunda because they have alot more experience against our guys.

We still have a talent advantage but it's not big enough to overcome a poor game plan or lack of familiarity any given night anymore.
2743823, They looked a little too passive to me. Passing up open shots
Posted by Cenario, Sun Jul-25-21 05:38 PM
Especially Lillard. Him and KD need to just do their thing
2743930, Foul hunting only works in the NBA
Posted by DJR, Tue Jul-27-21 12:37 PM
And that’s a big part of almost all these modern ISO scorers games.

2743931, Also, Zion should be on this team
Posted by DJR, Tue Jul-27-21 12:48 PM
Bam is a good player but he’s not a bully. This team needs a bully who will score 80% of his points at the rim.

Pop wants the ball to move, but the best passer on the team is Draymond: who is severely flawed at other aspects of the game.

No great pass first guards, no bullies, and a bunch of iso scorers who rely on drawing fouls and going to the line with their stupid little slight of hand moves that would get laughed off the court if you tried to call a foul on it anywhere else but an NBA court......it’s not great.

Also, given all those flaws..... Durant and Dame need to let their nuts hang and get this done. If this was 08 or 12 and LeBron and Kobe were leading this so far shitshow, they’d be getting roasted so much harder.
2743933, good point about trying to draw fouls like its the NBA
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jul-27-21 01:05 PM
I bet these refs are looking at these moved like “nah son…he aint even touch you”
2743934, not only that, Zion draws LEGIT fouls that the NBA refs ignore.
Posted by PROMO, Tue Jul-27-21 01:08 PM
maybe he'd actually get the respect he deserves from these FIBA refs.
2743935, do the Pelicans want Zion there?
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jul-27-21 01:19 PM
2743969, It's not clear that Zion wants to be on this team.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Jul-28-21 12:38 PM
I can't imagine they called Javale McGee before Zion Williamson. And if they did, fire everybody.
2743975, yeah, that’s a good point
Posted by DJR, Wed Jul-28-21 01:27 PM
I’m operating under hypotheticals and theoreticals about whose games would be useful for this team.

But I can’t imagine going to Tokyo under present conditions would appeal to too many right now....especially to someone like Zion who is likely to have more chances to play in the Olympics, hopefully under far better circumstances.
2743967, Starting to think Coach K should be coaching this team
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jul-28-21 12:03 PM
….Popp looks out of his element
2743968, definitely not Pop, his style doesn't fit with Team USA, if people are...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-28-21 12:14 PM
honest his style hasn't fit with the NBA the last few of years

>….Popp looks out of his element
>
2743977, Did Kwahi pull back the curtain on Pop?
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jul-28-21 01:36 PM
I think Pop lost his swag when Kwahi was like “nah, I’m good”

I think before that he was able to get people to buy in because he had Duncan, Parker, etc.
2743983, he should've retired with Duncan but ego wouldn't let him
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-28-21 03:29 PM
2743974, they miss Assistant Coach Boeheim and Captain Carmelo
Posted by DJR, Wed Jul-28-21 01:24 PM
2743988, People acting like Coack K didnt have the best players on the planet. Lol
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Wed Jul-28-21 04:48 PM
Pop is still one of the greats, working with a squad that includes COVID and Javelle McGee. Coach K still had the top tier players without a shortened NBA off-season and a raging pandemic.
2744004, I hate Coach K but he let players play, not that old Larry Brown make 5...
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jul-28-21 07:33 PM
passes before you can shoot bs.

Pop has long professed his hate for the 3 point shot and that's what these guys do best.

>Pop is still one of the greats, working with a squad that
>includes COVID and Javelle McGee. Coach K still had the top
>tier players without a shortened NBA off-season and a raging
>pandemic.

covid is an excuse his 2019 FIBA team struggled too
2744451, Yes the historic Harrison Barnes/Joe Harris/Derrick White squad. Lmao
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Mon Aug-02-21 03:43 PM
That 2019 team roster was worse than the one he is working with now. Coach K skated by with All-NBA players. He just had to sit there and let them do their thing. Trying to compare him and Pop is not even remotely fair.
2744521, did anybody watch Spain-USA?
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Aug-03-21 08:23 AM
http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/game/0308/Spain-USA#tab=boxscore

this boxscore can't be right, did they guard everybody else and let Rubio shoot?
2744524, Rubio was just on fire out the gate
Posted by pretentious username, Tue Aug-03-21 09:43 AM
>http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/game/0308/Spain-USA#tab=boxscore
>
>this boxscore can't be right, did they guard everybody else
>and let Rubio shoot?

Oddly enough they sat Rubio after a hot start, then he cooled down until later in the game, but at that point the US had gotten in a rhythm. US has had really slow starts this whole tournament so I think the key to beating them is pouring it on early while they’re still in a funk and hope it’s too big of a hole for them to get out of.
2744525, what happened with the Gasol brothers?
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Aug-03-21 10:35 AM
2744530, No idea
Posted by pretentious username, Tue Aug-03-21 11:37 AM
I was doing other stuff while watching, don’t even remember their names being called. I had assumed Marc didn’t even play till I just looked at the box score.
2744538, They're not as impactful as they were in their younger years.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Tue Aug-03-21 12:25 PM
I recognized the names but they didn't have much of an impact on the game.
2744558, Hard to play those guys today due to age and style.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Aug-03-21 02:25 PM
If you play pure drop coverage against USA, there are too many shooters who are willing to pull the trigger. So you have to be able to move laterally, and neither of those guys have that left in the tank.
2744527, Jrue Holliday playing D has become one of my fav things to watch.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Tue Aug-03-21 11:01 AM
2744708, It's ridiculous this US v AUS semifinal isn't live on nat'l television
Posted by dillinjah, Wed Aug-04-21 11:16 PM
9:15 PST?


C'mon. People will watch. Even on the east coast.
2744710, Australia is STUNTING on USA right now, lol. They're really good.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Aug-04-21 11:49 PM
I hate to use the cliche "fundamental basketball" about a team with so many slow unathletic white dudes on the team, but shit, they actually rotate, they actually cut, they actually look for the cutter actively, they actually help on defense. It's really pretty to watch.

USA deserves to lose. Unless Durant goes nuclear.
2744711, Yeah. It's bad so far.
Posted by dillinjah, Wed Aug-04-21 11:56 PM
2744712, 1. Can’t believe this isn’t live 2. US 3 point shooting is killing us
Posted by calij81, Thu Aug-05-21 12:15 AM
3. Australia is playing good fundamental ball but they are also hitting their 3s
2744713, 28-4 run for USA. Hard to keep superior talent down, I reckon.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Aug-05-21 12:22 AM
It all comes back to the fact that Durant is the best player in the Olympics by a lot.

Game's still going to be very, very close. And I'm still not convinced USA deserves to win based on that pretty embarrassing first half. But they're making everything right now.
2744714, Offensive rebounds have saved the USA.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Aug-05-21 12:28 AM
Both to get that run going and since. So many second and third chances.
2744716, Australia decided to stop guarding Devin Booker.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Aug-05-21 12:32 AM
Um, did they not watch the Finals? lol
2744717, jrue wont get a lot of mentions because he doesnt score a lot
Posted by Reeq, Thu Aug-05-21 12:47 AM
but for 2 straight games...basically when he decides to clamp down on your nba level guard...its pretty much a wrap for you.
2744718, He was the best passer too. He's honestly second MVP behind Durant.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Aug-05-21 12:51 AM
2744719, agreed.
Posted by Reeq, Thu Aug-05-21 01:11 AM
2744729, Yup. Jrue has been killing it. Been a great year for him.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Thu Aug-05-21 11:18 AM
2744720, Zach Lavine out there as the defensive stopper.
Posted by RandomFact, Thu Aug-05-21 01:11 AM
my man is out there playing great defense and enjoying his spot up corner 3's.

he's about to be an all around player with the pieces he now has around him. heading towards top-15 territory.
2744721, if anyone wants to peep that slovenia/france 7 am
Posted by Reeq, Thu Aug-05-21 01:13 AM
heres the link:
https://stream.nbcolympics.com/basketball-mens-semifinal-2
2744722, Thanks, I got a 9am flight and Baltimore airport 🗑 for killing time
Posted by guru0509, Thu Aug-05-21 01:38 AM
>heres the link:
>https://stream.nbcolympics.com/basketball-mens-semifinal-2
2744725, hell of a game!
Posted by Reeq, Thu Aug-05-21 07:49 AM
came down to the last possession.

luka and these injuries mayne.

france is 2-0 in the last two against the u.s. (including this olympics).
2744730, Devin Booker balled out.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Thu Aug-05-21 11:21 AM
2744845, US first half three point shooting is so strange
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Fri Aug-06-21 09:43 PM
Another 0-8 or 0-10 start. Missing wide open threes.
2744848, it's really just the first quarter every game
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Aug-06-21 10:13 PM
>Another 0-8 or 0-10 start. Missing wide open threes.

I think it's just a symptom of an all-star team that was assembled very recently. The teams that have been together longer can get USA into a funk early, but by the 2nd quarter they always seem to find their rhythm.
2744850, The rims make missed shots sound loud as hell, which doesn't help. Ha
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Fri Aug-06-21 10:18 PM
2744851, lol, yeah it's like the basket is insulting you.
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Aug-06-21 10:19 PM
2744853, I've been using the word "disrespectful" to describe the sound.
Posted by dagu, Fri Aug-06-21 10:34 PM
2744846, mike tirico with the brief clutch step up on commentary.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Aug-06-21 10:01 PM
what a pro.
2744904, that was dope
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Sun Aug-08-21 02:02 PM
2744847, I'd put Javelle McGee in even just to take some of these fouls
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Fri Aug-06-21 10:12 PM
2744852, France creating off ball contact, then flopping around
Posted by DJR, Fri Aug-06-21 10:23 PM
Refs dumb enough to fall for it. Pace ground to a halt, and FT’s keeping them in this. We should be up 10+ after that half by KD.

Rets need to do their job in the second half.
2744854, said it in the Bucks series, I think Durant may be the best scorer ever
Posted by Tiger Woods, Fri Aug-06-21 10:41 PM
Watching him when he's humming confuses my brain. To be that big and make it look that effortless...is exhilarating to watch this guy man
2744856, its crazy how much he dribbles into a defender and raises up to shoot
Posted by Reeq, Fri Aug-06-21 10:56 PM
instead of just taking the space/separation.

its like he wants dudes to know they cant do shit.
2744868, I remember seeing him doing all this as a 6’6” freshman at Montrose.
Posted by Beezo, Sat Aug-07-21 08:44 AM
Same highly efficient bag now, skill mastery.
2744855, the score is relatively close but this is light work.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Aug-06-21 10:51 PM
2744857, the score is what matters
Posted by DJR, Fri Aug-06-21 11:05 PM
You let a team hang around long enough, and anything can happen. Especially with these weird ass calls.
2744858, yeah i hear you. just feels like theyre never reslly in trouble.
Posted by Reeq, Fri Aug-06-21 11:08 PM
2744860, Yeah I keep thinking we’re going to pull away
Posted by DJR, Fri Aug-06-21 11:11 PM
It’s been annoying that it hasn’t happened
2744863, Phew, that got scary with 10 secs left lol
Posted by pretentious username, Fri Aug-06-21 11:25 PM
But yeah, it always felt in control pretty much. You can see when this team is playing confidently. Even if they miss a few shots in a row it’s not nerve-wracking. I’m kinda pleasantly surprised at how much this team gelled.
2744859, Gobert clanking two FTs kind of seals the fate of France
Posted by Tiger Woods, Fri Aug-06-21 11:10 PM
2744861, Wtf Dame.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Fri Aug-06-21 11:17 PM
2744862, victory
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Aug-06-21 11:24 PM
next time hope its zion, ja, trae, lamelo on the team
2744866, Congrats to Book, BAM, and Keldon. Also give Pop his credit.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sat Aug-07-21 07:04 AM
2744872, props to Pop, Kerr probably helped him pull his head out his ass...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Aug-07-21 09:31 AM
and let the players play.
2744888, after thinking hard about it, Jerami Grant was the key to the team
Posted by DJR, Sat Aug-07-21 10:58 PM
2744905, I’m sure he contributed in his own way
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun Aug-08-21 03:04 PM
2744879, luka gotta do something about his conditioning.
Posted by Reeq, Sat Aug-07-21 11:33 AM
you cant keep wearing down and resort to jacking up 3s.

i think it contributes to him being knicked up all the time too.

and if hes like this at 22…you know its gonna get worse as he ages and the metabolism slows down.
2744880, I said the same thing...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Aug-07-21 01:51 PM
>and if hes like this at 22…you know its gonna get worse as
>he ages and the metabolism slows down.
2744884, True, but also basketball players these days seem to change their diet
Posted by pretentious username, Sat Aug-07-21 02:40 PM

>and if hes like this at 22…you know its gonna get worse as
>he ages and the metabolism slows down.

as they age to help with recovery. If he gets the right nutritionist he’ll be all set.
2744885, RE: True, but also basketball players these days seem to change their diet
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Aug-07-21 04:55 PM
>
>>and if hes like this at 22…you know its gonna get worse as
>>he ages and the metabolism slows down.
>
>as they age to help with recovery. If he gets the right
>nutritionist he’ll be all set.

True but for most players it seems like they come to this stage around 30, if it’s a struggle stay in shape at 22 it’s not a good sign, I say the same thing about Zion
2744892, Bigger issue: no one criticizes his Rucker ball.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Aug-08-21 02:39 AM

We know why

We've been sold this "cerebral" story

He obviously knows the game, but dude is pretty
And-1 with it

No one gonna say that, though

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2744894, It was similar with Jason “White Chocolate” Williams, a black player…
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Aug-08-21 07:03 AM
would’ve been benched trying some of the same shit
2744901, well his backup KOd a fan once and admitted faking injury, so...
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Aug-08-21 12:17 PM
2744908, who?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Aug-08-21 05:11 PM
2744912, mad max
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun Aug-08-21 05:31 PM
the point is that Sacramento in the 90s wasnt in position to be picky

and once J Will had them actually winning, why would anyone have had a problem with the way he played?
2744899, I rolled my eyes when Porzingis complained but now i see it.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Aug-08-21 11:52 AM
Dude is really And 1 with his play and ball dominant. Doesn't lend itself to winning against better teams with all around talent. "Oh my god Luka scored 45+ in the Olympics".....and came home with zero medals.
2744910, "Hey BronBron - we got that Lobos in the cup"
Posted by Vex_id, Sun Aug-08-21 05:16 PM
https://twitter.com/RPSalao/status/1423996528721498112?s=20

You love to see it.
2744921, Hahaha fantastic…KD reading mentions even after a gold medal win
Posted by Tiger Woods, Sun Aug-08-21 10:16 PM