With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report, Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues night.

Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.

Agendas falling all around lol.

Have at it.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Fuck the Lakers Knicks Celtics and Heat.


>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
>
>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
>
>Agendas falling all around lol.
>
>Have at it.
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

probably made some serious money

Enough that both teams are relatively full strength and the injury doesn’t become a major talking point in discussing who the better team is/was.

No dog in the fight for me. I just want a hard fought competitive series that does well with viewers and dispels most of the small market narrative.

>Enough that both teams are relatively full strength and the
>injury doesn’t become a major talking point in discussing
>who the better team is/was.
>
>No dog in the fight for me. I just want a hard fought
>competitive series that does well with viewers and dispels
>most of the small market narrative.

Would love to see this with a healthy Giannis, but at best we’ll see hobbled Giannis it seems.

But the Suns are huge favorites. Hard to see this going 6, to be honest.

The Suns just have nooooo one for Giannis. And if Ayton tries too hard to stop him at the rim, and Ayton gets in foul trouble, it’s game over very very quickly. Because the Bucks have terrific perimeter defenders to slow Paul and Booker. Suns just don’t have the personnel for Giannis.

But yeah, without Giannis, it’s very, very different. And yeah, Suns should be favored presently.

I'm pulling for Phoenix and think they're the more consistent team.
But I think Milwaukee played their ASSES off against a team that could have well have made them go home. Even after the Trae injury.

Giannis would be in the books.

Pat only got a 1 game suspension.

It was just reported on Speak for Yourself.

The league talked to Mark Davis ( the ref) about the incident...
in the video you can see Mark Davis reacting even before Pat
shoves Chris.

Apparently, Chris made a very disparaging comment.

into a chair.

and shouldn’t have talked shit the five times he actually got a bucket all series.

Paul put 40 on his fake hustle spazzy ass, and got him to lose his shit. Paul won.

Is this some new policy?

They determine the penalty for a physical act based on whether the other player said some mean words to you first?

There's no reason for Bev to have his suspension shorted because of something CP3 said.

Unless CP3 chose that moment to tell Bev that Taiwan is an independent country, and the NBA is letting Bev off easy to keep him quiet.

But obviously the league felt the need to issue a short
suspension because of it, and Paul’s history as a dirty player
probably influenced the decision as well.

what he actually said.....

And correction. I thought it was a report being given by Ric Bucher, but it
was actually him opining.

Here is the episode.


https://youtu.be/Ci6A7LkGhSs

Chris being a big meany head

Paul got suspended 2 games for poking rondo in the eye and throwing punches

Rondo got 3 games for spitting at and punching paul multiple times

you think a push in the back is gonna get the same punishment as that? I think a game suspension is closer to harsh than too lenient.

I was talking to the individuals who felt Paul didn’t say anything to ignite
the situation, and people were upset that he wasn’t suspended for more
games.

From Mr. The Next 5 Years Are Mine and the dude who made fun of CP3 for getting hurt.

Oh well.

Also as a fan of a team that went from Very Ashy to Very Classy the previous decade, I'm stoked for the Suns' and Bucks' fans.

not terribly excited about this. i'm sure there will be a lot of "real" x's and o's basketball but i think both teams are boring to watch. PHX less so than MIL because there is some flex to the sun's offense but still uninteresting. i don't think MIL can handle cp3/book midrange or stifle PHX's 3P prowess. without a full strength giannis MIL is completely dependent on middleton (at best) or holiday, lopez, and forbes (at worst) going off to keep up with PHX's consistent offense. it might be even worse than i'm imagining because both teams are pretty strong defensively. hopefully we don't get a defensive battle where both teams are combining for 160 points every game

casual basketball fan

Have you even watched a game this season?

Im worried he is going to do something and be out even longer.

It's not like the Lakers, where we know they'll be back in the next 3-5 years. I don't blame Giannis for wanting to do everything humanly possible to carry this roster right now.

They are out there wearing jogging suits, no color, nothing.....

A little over a week ago, dude looked like he could be out for a year plus.

.

.

.

i'm barely watching this (working) but it seems like every time i turn my head to watch i see book/cp3 iso or pick and roll into a good look. if i'm not mistaken ATL tore MIL up with pick and roll in game 1 of ECF and MIL made some good adjustments for the rest of the series. i think the difference is that MIL only had to account for 1 ball handler on the floor at a time with ATL in either trae or lou will. with PHX they have to account for some combination of cp3/book/payne. not quite sure what MIL can about this do but we'll see in game 2

Leaving Portis on an island against Booker and Paul, and
not making the adjustment on it.

He even put Lopez on him. What the hell is he thinking.

You got Teague on the bench. He has the speed and played well earlier....

Jrue out of sorts

He played amazing in the two final wins against the Hawks

Ayton has been a badass these playoffs

.

He went with Giannis at the 5. That was stupid. He took a shooter and
inside scorer off the floor.

Putting Giannis close to the basket doesn’t mean shit, because they are
just going to wrap him up and put him on the line.

Gotta have shooters to space the floor.

Suns guards were attacking those bigs on the perimeter the way the Hawks guards refused to do.

From his days of punching and grabbing dudes nuts to this


https://twitter.com/dubs4o8/status/1412611715603173381?s=21




>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
>
>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
>
>Agendas falling all around lol.
>
>Have at it.
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

And he and others have been doing that get in front of defenders and slow down move for generations and no one has ever called it dirty. But here, he clearly slipped.

People don't like CP3 and make up shit to justify it.

>And he and others have been doing that get in front of
>defenders and slow down move for generations and no one has
>ever called it dirty. But here, he clearly slipped.
>
>People don't like CP3 and make up shit to justify it.

https://youtu.be/i9SUoe9Tzi0

Count the dick punches....count them...count the intentional
shoulder pulls to injure someone.

Please stop. No one likes him because he doesn’t respect the game.
On and off the court he is a piece of shit.

Kmart on why players don’t like him.

https://youtu.be/Fc1uhzd024Y

that play doesn't demonstrate that. same play happens in nearly every game. I hate that it's a legal move but he wasn't doing dirt....this time.

I'm rooting against the Bucks and for CP3 though

for CP3 though
>
>
.

Bucks are still winning this series

He deserved a jaw tap for all of the dirty shit.

>He deserved a jaw tap for all of the dirty shit.
>

They in here acting like that slip was natural lol, chris Paul is a golden globe caliber thespian 🎭 who would thrive on stage in a Broadway musical or in TV shows movies and commercials

regardless

I don't think he was targeting Giannis cause of the knee or anything, like trying to hurt him

Anyway Bucks don't strike me as a 'skirmishing' type team. PJ Tucker just gonna poke somebody in the eye or hammer at them all game like it's football, but none of the starters gonna put in work.

>I don't think he was targeting Giannis cause of the knee or
>anything, like trying to hurt him


I do

but seriously, all guards do that slow down in front of a trailer move...shit, i been doing that since Nba Live 97

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9E_342oHzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MnLbk9vZVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc1uhzd024Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMNXFXVyYrE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xQpd3C5fxE
cmon...

i swear ihate most of these studio folks.

jesus, cp3 has touched a lot of nuts.

they're dirty sometimes and take shit too far, it's their nature

granted CP is 6 foot but obviously the dirty shit stems from a need to even the playing field.

I am glad Rondo put hands on him, CP was ready for it though. Who cares?

The dick punching is obviously inexcusable but I'm just not seeing anything warranting a dirty play label in these playoffs at least

he slipped, but even before that i do think he was trying to get Giannis to run into him which is just smart to me.

why not draw a foul on their best player and potentially get an +1?

that's smart basketball.

no, bev doesn't like that guy and had nothing to lose. he got it in when he could.

cp has done some seriously bitchmade shit throughout his career and he truly deserves/deserved to get touched up.

Lol.

If Paul was getting booted from playoffs after getting his ass kicked all game and shoved someone(it couldn’t even theoretically be Bev because he sucks) in the back, I doubt some of you would be defending it.

>Lol.
>
>If Paul was getting booted from playoffs after getting his ass
>kicked all game and shoved someone(it couldn’t even
>theoretically be Bev because he sucks) in the back, I doubt
>some of you would be defending it.

But what happened is Paul didn’t do anything to Bev but bust his ass and hurt his feelings, and Bev.....pushed him in the back.

Way to show him, Bev!

I actually felt kinda bad for Patrick.

And he reacted .

I’m not a pat bev defender by any means but I’m glad a dirty player line him shoved another dirty player …in a dirty manner


>But what happened is Paul didn’t do anything to Bev but
>bust his ass and hurt his feelings, and Bev.....pushed him in
>the back.
>
>Way to show him, Bev!
>
>I actually felt kinda bad for Patrick.

If he called him a bitch, that push isn't even warranted. Cmon.

>If he called him a bitch, that push isn't even warranted.
>Cmon.


lol I can’t be convinced

its like the opposite of tough

He’s a weasel too

>its like the opposite of tough

Nothing dirty about it.

OKS is mad as hell that Paul is so close to a chip and playing absurdly well lately. This is hilarious.

>OKS is mad as hell that Paul is so close to a chip and playing
>absurdly well lately. This is hilarious.

but you’re right, I’d rather see Giannis or PG/Kawhi get a ring .

He’s playing ok. He’s no Kevin Johnson

That's about as close as most players ever are.

>That's about as close as most players ever are.

>

nm

Frank the Tank about to get minutes

>Frank the Tank about to get minutes

Unleash Stix!

Kaminsky doesn't look ready

Thank goodness Ayton is 22 and can put in the minutes

Still will be a pretty big void in the rotation

for as long as i've been here and yelling at Laker fans... my team is 3 away.

other than the Steelers heartbreak this city hasn't seen a championship game/series in over 20 years.

i've been pretty hard on Ayton but man has he been the best player in the playoffs. this is what everyone here (that didnt go to U of A. those dipshits are blind) has expected him to be like, but thankfully CP3 opened that door for him to believe he can do it. CP3 is kinda like Morpheus in a way.

Saric injury hurts big time. hopefully they can mix more time with Cam J and run, but Frank is going to have to make his hometown hate him if we are going to close this out.

I know that wasn’t a full extension but stilllll

Doesn't make sense after last game

But a) it makes almost no sense he is ABLE to play and b) good lord you can’t tell he’s even hurt at all this game - absolutely dominant

Tired of Breen bringing it up every other play.

He’s certainly capable.

But cmon man, PJ has 7 points too.

Shit was a highly questionable comment

I'm assuming Van Gundy said it...?

For his own sake he needs to stop blurting out words when he’s stuck. Say “it’s like… somethin’. I dunno” or some shit like that

The hair cut and the hunch of the shoulders.

them dudes stinking up the joint. especially Jrue

https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/08/dj-yella-1.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1000

"2 asswhippins"

They miss his solid defense, rebounding and 3 point shooting.

Middleton is at the 2 with tucker at the 3 ...ain’t getting shit with that.

Divencenzo would be on booker and holiday on Paul...Middleton
would be at the 3 with a mismatch, instead being the 2 and forced to
guard booker. ...and tucker who isn’t a scorer wouldn’t be on the floor...

That just goes to show that Karma is pure bullshit (along with all religions) . Sometimes the bad guy wins and is never punished for their bad deeds.



>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
>
>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
>
>Agendas falling all around lol.
>
>Have at it.
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

I became agnostic in 2014 and the pandemic has pretty much crushed any hope / faith I had left

jesus christ.

>jesus christ.

...would not be a CP3 fan.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/461f566831f4e0a0a0f7d0c557adff29/tenor.gif?itemid=13740215

Disgusting

>https://media1.tenor.com/images/461f566831f4e0a0a0f7d0c557adff29/tenor.gif?itemid=13740215

https://i.redd.it/ixvoz0qlo7a71.jpg

dude was high af

of the Phoenix demographic and less on the crystal mething

it was actually a dope shot because everyone else was going crazy and dude was a statue.

>

It's what it is, but they are absolutely a deserving title team if they take this.

>It's what it is, but they are absolutely a deserving title
>team if they take this.

>

those other dudes basically milk carton status.

Haberstroh was saying Friday...Devin Booker and CP3 have scored the most points of any back court, through 2 games...IN FINALS HISTORY. Let that sink in, while you think of some of the back courts that you've seen over time. Wasn't J-Rue supposed to be a lockdown defender? Four first round picks. Is it him or Bud's defensive strategy?

How many finals teams have all stars at both the 1 and 2?

Shit - how many TEAMS? Russ/Beal are the only one that came to mind other than the Suns.

for fun, I just went and looked at the winners/losers of the last ten Finals. Of those 20 teams, only Steph/Klay. Guess you just think when a team is in the Finals, they had a banging backcourt.

>Of those 20 teams, only Steph/Klay.

you'd think they would be up there

Good point.

How quickly we forget I guess. Poor Klay.

If the Whistle Blower podcast has taught me anything
It's that Suns will need a monster game in order to go up 3-0 tonight.

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

that said, i still expect Phoenix to win

that the league loses money on a Finals sweep, breaks even on a 5 game series and makes loot on a 6 or 7 game series. They put in their defensive stopper, tonight.

All jokes aside, *IF* the NBA was concerned about a perception that they alter games,
they could solve it by allowing officials to be their own company vs. being employees of the NBA.

>All jokes aside, *IF* the NBA was concerned about a
>perception that they alter games,
>they could solve it by allowing officials to be their own
>company vs. being employees of the NBA.

My point is that I don't think it should be that way.

I remember them mentioning this on the Whistleblower podcast. The concern is the refs have every reason to want a series to be extended if they are paid per game. Would probably be tough to get the ref Union to agree to this, but if they changed their pay from a per game rate to a decent salary that would help change perception.

You're right.
As constructed all parties involved want a longer series.
I don't see the NBA changing their pay but essentially giving up control of the refs in order to showcase some sense of transparency.

we’ll see if that changes, tonight.

.

.

and just focus on hitting shots.

.

.

I wonder if he'll get the same level of criticism as other marquee players would get in this situation.

Absolutely amazing

regardless of how the teams actually play. Lol.

All that money they lost last season...they tryna double up this year. Lol.

why would any NBA player be tired this early in a game after a 72 hour layoff?

Nobody else on the team has more than 7 points though.

Its just not necessary

It ain't like dude is playing well. Pretty much anyone who gets him on the perimeter is locking him up out there. Even Giannis.

If Bucks trapped and forced the ball out of his hamds, someone else on the Suns might actually have a chance to do something without him dribbling the air out the ball every possession.

And chucks up a three

Dude is literally keeping the Bucks in this game

Every single one of his turnovers led to break-away points for the Bucks

i'm not even talking about "officiating the finals differently."

they are just straight up making bad calls, but worse, completely missing obvious shit.

after letting them ball most of the game.

What a blown performance

But here we are.

even a moderate CP3 game puts them up 3-1 and stops the sure to be slurpfest of a 2 man team


Booker shouldn't have even had 5 fouls when he was called. that no-call was a make up IMO

now it's gonna go at least 6.

Get it together Phoenix

And gives Payne more minutes. You could just tell Paul was going to sing-handedly lose this game by how he looked.....and then it happened.

he earned Phantom Zone status tonight

like, this game and last he's just looked...not there. like in his face it's like he's somewhere else.

i dunno.

Watch the game coverage from games 1 and 2.

Chris is underperforming- but let’s not act like dude wasn’t called the Finals MVP like 5 days ago.

Doesnt give me hope for a long series. He looks tired and has to put maximum effort just to bring the ball up court.

Paul cant get the ball passed the half court line in less than 10-15 second with Jrue guarding him. Messes up the flow of the offense or he just dribbles the clock out and chucks a shot up. Cameron Payne is just better equipped to get the offense flowing with Jrue guarding. Williams has a tough decision to make or this series could swing in a bad way

..The Bubble schedule likely spoiled a few fans last year.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Even games 1 and 2 of this series only had one day in between. Not sure why they suddenly switched to two days for every game.

>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
>
>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
>
>Agendas falling all around lol.
>
>Have at it.
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

Slayed the Big Bad Wolf (BKN) with true grit. Suffered what appeared to be a season ending injury that would've taken most guys out, and somehow comes out more dominant as the pressure heats up.

He's been unbelievable in high-leverage moments and is putting up historic numbers. I've always had great respect for his game, but am cheering for him harder than I ever have after seeing this run and the way he's leading this Bucks team.

Hell of a story if he can take the 'chip.

-->

Game 4 was the game we needed. Riveting stuff watching this guy Giannis find ANOTHER level

and often

.

Paul just cannot handle Jrue's defense without getting absolutely gassed and disheveled. Should have happened two games ago

LOL

Some of you need to relax, lol.

Fouling Giannis on the oop was a bad play though.

i feel like i havent seen that all playoffs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6iz11HWUAAB8YS?format=jpg&name=900x900

Dude kills any and all momentum with his turnovers

The narrative shifts this playoffs have been soap opera worthy.

>The narrative shifts this playoffs have been soap opera
>worthy.

He looks way bigger guarding Paul

Jrue is definitely notably bigger than CP3.

https://twitter.com/branizzle_/status/1416580150209105921?s=21

>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
>
>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
>
>Agendas falling all around lol.
>
>Have at it.
>
>
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...

Holiday played amazing
Hope Bucks close it out next game
Amazing team win by Mil

You ain’t getting that call crying yo

Paul is good no doubt. He seems like a great teammate.


But in no way is he some kind of legendary leader of men like some have made him out to be.


How many times do his teams have to under-perform to kill this shit?

Even this year. Way too much credit was given to him vs Monty, Book, roster upgrades, Ayton growth, etc.


And...lets be real...the best games Phx played lately? Most of them were with Paul out.


Where did Chris Paul as some kind of mix between Magic Johnson and General Patton or some shit start? Was it Charles Barkley's dumbass?

I don't get it. He's underachieved his entire career.

I'd put Steve Nash way ahead of Paul in terms of leadership and career. Jason Kidd as well. Annoyed me when people kept saying Paul was the best player on this team. I still believe they play better and faster with him out, and Payne or Booker running the ball. Atleast, this version of Chris Paul has been playing since Game 2.

but at his position he isn't cracking top 5 now that you mention it.


Seems like a few emotional dudes will somehow take offense to that, but Magic, O, Zeke, J-Kidd, AI, Curry, shiiiit Payton, are we considering Harden a PG? how far can we go?


I fucking hate Steve Nash but....fuck it you're right. His teams over-achieved at times for sure.

CP3 might be lucky to crack top 10. I know that doesn't fit the current narrative or whatever, but at some point we gotta be real.

And Iverson’s best years were playing the two.

I dont know about that one. Thats tough. To me, atleast.

FOUR!!

And hit two game winners in the finals if i recall. Or game clinchers. Helped set the tone for that team.

That was the Dwyane Wade show.

Took Payton 3-4 years to get good too.

Paul was good from day 1.

We only talk about the bad things with the guy we’re arguing against, don’t we?

GPs peak is better than CPPlea nutting all over himself in every big moment.

If JRue is sending that nigga to Guantanamo, what do you think the Glove would do?

Ex
Fucking
Xactly

GP got bounced round 1 by an 8 seed, and lit up by Van Exel in his prime. And missed the playoffs several times his last 4-5 years in Seattle.

We remember and emphasize what we want to, I guess.

GP was a great player, but we can’t nitpick Paul and hype GP as more than he was. They made nice runs in 93 and 96, and the rest of his career was mostly playoff disappointments and misses.

Do you really want to go down this road of pointing out all the times CPPlea has shitted the bed in he playoffs?

And again if non-HOF’er Jute is slutting out CP. what would prime Glove do?

CP is down that list. Not even Top 10 pg of all time.

>Do you really want to go down this road of pointing out all
>the times CPPlea has shitted the bed in he playoffs?

No, that’s been pointed out 24/7 by half the board, I’m just applying that same pressure elsewhere. They both made a finals and a conference finals when they mattered.

>And again if non-HOF’er Jute is slutting out CP. what would
>prime Glove do?

If Van Exel was cooking GP, what would Paul do?

>CP is down that list. Not even Top 10 pg of all time.
>

He’s easily top 10.

CP3 clearly doesn’t matter as much since the Suns are arguably better without him.

Van Exel had one good series against Glove. Whoopty doo.

Magic
Zeke
Oscar
Kidd
Glove
Stockton
Cousy
Frazier
Nash
Steph
Parker

Paul averaged 16 and 8 when he was 20. Payton was already 22 and was the #2 pick and still took a few years.

>CP3 clearly doesn’t matter as much since the Suns are
>arguably better without him.

Yeah? Where they been at before this year then? Suns are better when Booker doesn’t have tunnel vision too.

>Van Exel had one good series against Glove. Whoopty doo.
>
>Magic
>Zeke
>Oscar
>Kidd
>Glove no
>Stockton no
>Cousy no
>Frazier no
>Nash if defense doesn’t count
>Steph
>Parker respect for bringing him up, but no

Also, it’s pretty tough when you have to score every point to remain competitive cuz your pg is shitting on himself again.

All of them are better than CP. Most of them by a lot. And none of them turn into hoes during every single big game.

>Also, it’s pretty tough when you have to score every point
>to remain competitive cuz your pg is shitting on himself
>again.

Like dribbling in way too deep, getting stuck, and getting ripped? That kind of “shitting on himself?”

>All of them are better than CP. Most of them by a lot.

Even the original nut punch victim doesn’t agree.

http://twitter.com/follow24hodge/status/1417513697489129475?s=21

And
>none of them turn into hoes during every single big game.
Guess the WCF weren’t big games?

Chris Paul is a very good player. And seemingly an excellent teammate.


He's just overrated as fuck by some. Mostly the media. A few on here. I don't even know if that includes you, but you seem in your feeling either way.


I miss the old Doc. He was a cool ass dude and a really good poster.


This version? I'll just say I hope you find peace man.

instead of the pile on when things are turning bad.

This is shades of "LeRobot" era posting


He'll be a Laker, as he should have been years ago, in due time.

>instead of the pile on when things are turning bad.

I'm not piling on. I'm pointing out that the "great leader" shit is over-stated.

Are you like a big fan or something? I'm not sure why this offended you specifically.



>
>This is shades of "LeRobot" era posting


I honestly don't even know what that means.

>
>
>He'll be a Laker, as he should have been years ago, in due
>time.


Uhhh...ok? I agree, the blocking of the trade years back was some bullshit.


Like I said, I truly miss the old Doc.


My only point is that Chris Paul is overrated. Especially on this run...with ESPN/TNT trying to make a story, etc.


I don't deny that he's good. I also don't deny that his teammates love him, etc.


He's just not the great leader many make him out to be. And I'm salty that he got all the credit over Monty....

*shrugs*

>
>Paul is good no doubt. He seems like a great teammate.
>
>
>But in no way is he some kind of legendary leader of men like
>some have made him out to be.
>
>
>How many times do his teams have to under-perform to kill
>this shit?
>
>Even this year. Way too much credit was given to him vs
>Monty, Book, roster upgrades, Ayton growth, etc.
>
>
>And...lets be real...the best games Phx played lately? Most
>of them were with Paul out.
>
>
>Where did Chris Paul as some kind of mix between Magic Johnson
>and General Patton or some shit start? Was it Charles
>Barkley's dumbass?
>
>I don't get it. He's underachieved his entire career.

The Suns have underperformed?

To your point - it's absolutely hard to say they "underperformed", but they are the 1 seed, went up 2-0, and have had ample opportunities to put this series away in 5. They've still had an incredible season, but how quickly the narrative changed from before the Finals started, when they were the darlings and the favorites (let alone when they went up 2-0) to now.

Not sure why its so hard for some to step back and be objective.


After the first 2 games, no one expected this.


Hell, the Suns were favored prior to Game one.

Folks were predicting Giannis would be out NEXT SEASON.



the Suns have had a great year- my point is that the credit needs to be spread a little more evenly.


And if the Bucks do seal it, that's one more series CP3 lost that he should have won. *shrugs*

>The Suns have underperformed?
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Anyone saying differently is being dishonest. They were favored. Especially with a hobbled Giannis.

If Paul is the greatest leader in the league, and his second best (lol) player is Booker.....


What does that Make Giannis/Middleton??


And the best games PHX played in the last several weeks? Paul was home taking zinc and vitamin c.

Bud.

has to outscore Giannis AND Middleton which is not likely

I recall a few weeks ago, when Giannis was a fraud and Bud needed to be fired.

Now CP3 is back to being the fraud. After he averaged 28 and 9 in the first two games. Of the NBA Finals. A week ago. And dropping 41 and 8 in the game that clinched the Western Conference Finals. Two weeks ago. At 36 years old. (!!!)

I'm just enjoying the greatness, man. Anyone that wants to give this series the Skip Bayless reaction treatment, feel free-- but I'm too goddamn happy with the product we've been given and the depth of truly *great* performances on both sides we're witnessing to have the thought cross my mind that one team lost to another because of fraudulence, lol.

Sometimes, one great team is just a little greater than the other great team. That'd make for a shitty First Take segment, but y'know.

each game lol

The big knock against him has been his overall inflexibility when it comes to making adjustments-- but he's indisputably been making great adjustments since the Brooklyn series ended. And he's one game away from going from The Great Regular Season Guy to a title winner.

And all anybody wants to do in here is shit on Chris Paul, lol.

Jrue was getting cooked by Phoenix’s back court at a historic rate…while shooting 31%. Now, he’s the prime Gary Payton and one of the best adjustments we’ve ever seen made in a Finals series.

Like they were down 1 with the ball with what, 45 seconds left?

This easily could have swung the other way and it’d have been an “historic collapse by the Bucks”.

While also having their knee fold the wrong way 2 weeks ago they should be allowed to play idc

>While also having their knee fold the wrong way 2 weeks ago
>they should be allowed to play idc

will drill it into the player's heads to stop on the switching when the Suns run plays involving screens. The Suns were able to get a ton of favorable half-court mismatches in Game 5.

The Suns are just so tailor made to decimate drop coverage, specifically because of Chris Paul. There's almost no better guard in the NBA against drop coverage than CP3-- because he just reads the game at such a high level, he will pick apart any softness. And then when you add Booker's prowess in the mid-range and pull-up situations, forget it.

So it seems like those switches are designed specifically to remain in CP3's face and force him to work for every single possession. Because if you can wear him down, not just for the game but for the series, then there's nothing Phoenix can do. Yes, Booker can go for 50, yes, the Suns can still shoot at an absurd rate... but if you can affect CP3, then that calculated gamble is probably more likely to cash.

It seems like that plan has been employed a lot more in Games 3 through 5 than Games 1 and 2... and it seems to be working. (For now.)

I don't envy any team to have to defend CP3/Booker/Ayton/two shooters. That's just... ridiculous in terms of offensive versatility.

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Monty should counter by having CP3 throw an errant pass at Foster and Have Crowder diive for the ball and 'fall' on him or sumshit, since we are doing WWE storylines and all ...

Gonna fuck around and put in Portia early.

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But I shoulda taken it for shits and giggles

Chris Paul just cant run an offense that keeps up with the Bucks anymore. He looks hesitant, turns the ball over, clanks wide open mid-range jumpers. He will get empty stats but thats about it

Its over.

Paul was the Suns best player that half, the hell you watching?

lol at the “empty stats” hedge though.

he's a dirty crumb bum with corny commercials.



>Paul was the Suns best player that half, the hell you
>watching?
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>lol at the “empty stats” hedge though.

talking about some “Gary Clark is playing well!” Fuck these calculator geeks who bandwagoned that shit too!

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I guess it comes down to whoever decides to play well/decent in the second half.

and a little bit better of a midrange...it will be unfair.

he doesnt even have to hit the 3 at a steady clip if middleton and jrue could hit it consistently

Numbers dont lie.

>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
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>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
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>Agendas falling all around lol.
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>Have at it.
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>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
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>..and miles to go before i sleep...

and 3 turnovers. He gotta get going…now.

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Middleton isn’t even going and Giannis just has that look. He’s hitting free throws, blocking shit left and right, and just looks like he’s trying to hit another gear if he has to. Suns are a great team - but man, Giannis is something.

And it might be even better than that. 2005 Pistons/Spurs was the last time it felt like a true chess match slugfest like this one.

Depending on how far it goes.

But honestly while it swung back and forth none of the games except 7 were GREAT. THESE have been insane throughout.

Would love a Game 7 but if it ends tonight it’s been an insanely entertaining series.

You risk having a blowout stupid game 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6urRX_szKQ

It's cost the Suns tremendously

its annoying as fuck. mid play?

get your ass back on defense

>With Giannis still listed as day to day on the injury report,
>Milwaukee is hoping for a speedy recovery by game time, Tues
>night.
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>Phoenix will be rested and ready to run.
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>Agendas falling all around lol.
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>Have at it.
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>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
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>..and miles to go before i sleep...

Grow up, Book.

It does nothing for him. It changes zero calls.

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this a better Dirk ring than Dirks

>this a better Dirk ring than Dirks

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Dirk went 25 and 10 with a 46-37-89 split

He went through kobe/durant/westbrook/ bron / d wade




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Amazing Finals

on LeBatard, tomorrow.

ive had my critiques of him but this is the version of him i imagined in the critiques.

legendary stuff. idk if i can talk trash about him anymore

>ive had my critiques of him but this is the version of him i
>imagined in the critiques.

Yep. His warts are clear, especially in this era where damn near everyone can drop jumpers.

But that raw effort, constantly attacking the basket, anchoring an adult outfit on defense, and then having the nerve to make some free throws too!? Yeah, I’m old enough to remember when this is what teams were trying to find.

And besides that, Giannis is an easy motherfucker to be happy for. So I’m certainly that right now. Very fun nba finals. All-time performance by Giannis. Great efforts by other guys on the team too.

Too bad for Paul and shiiiid, I just don’t see them making it back. Maybe they figure something out and prove me wrong. That would be cool too!

All time?

Like…the resume is legitimately insane. He’s 26.

The scary part is...he could still get A LOT better.

Some have greater longevity... but he has 5 All-NBAs, two MVPs, 3 All-Defense First Teams, 1 DPOY, a title, and a Finals MVP.

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It’s reactionary as shit but he’s top 8 trajectory easily and already entering Hakeem territory.

Hail to the Chief.

Like Silver basically making sure no one (CP3) pulls a Zaza on dude.

was crazy for signing with Milwaukee long-term, but he did it

There's a pretty easy argument that if the super team in the East was healthy, people are calling Giannis a fraud and calling for Bud's head. (It was happening on this board when it looked like a possibility.)

I liked seeing two evenly matches teams built without super team-ups. Was an entertaining series.

this isn’t even happening.

>this isn’t even happening.

Let’s be harsh for a minute on that Brooklyn team. We have to remember that health issues and fear of some kind of shenanigans was baked into their existence from the beginning. KD and fat Thor ass Harden both missed hella games with injuries and Kyrie was his enigmatic self too.

So it’s about right that those mfers would get to the playoffs then have issues with health. And they did. KD ALMOST made it happen with that crazy game 7 performance off of a major injury. But then he ran out of gas trying to carry those dudes and he didn’t. They lost. And they don’t deserve jack shit. No concessions. No woulda coulda shoulda. Fuck those dudes. They couldn’t stay helathy, they barely played together the whole season, they showed up with a guest host head coach, nobody really stepped up beyond KD as some kind of reliable presence, and they LOST. And that’s even with all of the Expendibles-type name brand bench guys they brought in too.

Having spewed all of that, I do agree that ‘superteams’ aren’t gonna stop cuz free agency is still free. Guys can go where they want to go. And they should. But if they get to go play with their homeboys somewhere, fuck the bullshit. Fuck the excuses. Win or S all the way tfu and step aside for the folks who did win. Especially when folks under contract cry their way into a trade to go where they wanna go. They REALLY get a win or shut up from me. Brooklyn has all of that going for their roster. It’s exactly who they wanted. AND THEY LOST! SO FUCK EM! Haha

All your nets criticisms are spot on though. I’m glad they didn’t win. The regular season matters and it’s good they couldn’t cheat the process

>>this isn’t even happening.
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>Let’s be harsh for a minute on that Brooklyn team. We have
>to remember that health issues and fear of some kind of
>shenanigans was baked into their existence from the beginning.
>KD and fat Thor ass Harden both missed hella games with
>injuries and Kyrie was his enigmatic self too.
>
>So it’s about right that those mfers would get to the
>playoffs then have issues with health. And they did. KD ALMOST
>made it happen with that crazy game 7 performance off of a
>major injury. But then he ran out of gas trying to carry those
>dudes and he didn’t. They lost. And they don’t deserve
>jack shit. No concessions. No woulda coulda shoulda. Fuck
>those dudes. They couldn’t stay helathy, they barely played
>together the whole season, they showed up with a guest host
>head coach, nobody really stepped up beyond KD as some kind of
>reliable presence, and they LOST. And that’s even with all
>of the Expendibles-type name brand bench guys they brought in
>too.
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>Having spewed all of that, I do agree that ‘superteams’
>aren’t gonna stop cuz free agency is still free. Guys can go
>where they want to go. And they should. But if they get to go
>play with their homeboys somewhere, fuck the bullshit. Fuck
>the excuses. Win or S all the way tfu and step aside for the
>folks who did win. Especially when folks under contract cry
>their way into a trade to go where they wanna go. They REALLY
>get a win or shut up from me. Brooklyn has all of that going
>for their roster. It’s exactly who they wanted. AND THEY
>LOST! SO FUCK EM! Haha

them not being healthy in the playoffs wasn't exactly a fluke

not a super team but they are plenty talented.

you still will need 2 major stars or 3 stars to matter in this league

They have ONE other all-star, and a bunch of
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

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How you doing, King?
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..Kudos to their fans.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

back in one of those locked NBA Playoff posts, lol. Whew!

..watching the momentum shift as each team faced new challenges, each round, every injury.

This shit is hilarious.




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>back in one of those locked NBA Playoff posts, lol. Whew!

He had games where he was chucking 3s and turn around jumpers. That's fair game. He also couldn't buy a free throw to save his life at certain points. People were going too far with it, acting like he wasn't still a Top 5 guy in the NBA... but some of the criticism of his early-round play was fair imo.

And he deserves a fuckton of credit for turning it around. The style of play, the aggression on D, the free throws, all of it.

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And I said if they got past the Nets they were winning it all, because despite the worse record, they were better this year than they'd ever been.

I think Giannis will forgive me for being frustrated by the occasional jumper.

like how

Having played for both teams. With Jrue brought in specifically to replace him.

>Having played for both teams. With Jrue brought in
>specifically to replace him.

I feel like he's been around atleast 8-10 years.

>I feel like he's been around atleast 8-10 years.

It’s 8, right? A quick ass 8. Those years of Lebron vs GSW messed up my sense of time and space nba-wise! This is where some big names were in their career when they made their first finals.

the right to be called an all-time great.

Giannis played like a superstar in 4 straight games.
Middleton was unreal. Even in Game 6, where he really was kind of subdued, he hit the shots that mattered.
Jrue was amazing on defense (mostly).

Overall, the Bucks knew their roles and didn't over do it. Especially Giannis.

Fuckin Budenholzer ACTUALLY MADE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WORKED.

The "Gotta Go To Golden State" meme for Giannis is dead.
Giannis has more Finals MVPs than Steph, who still has less rings than LeBron.

I can live with this.

I'd like to think they'd come back stronger, but there's too many players I don't trust.

Ayton looked scared and pussy.

And so much had to happen for the Suns to get there. AD out. Murray out. Kawhi hurt.

They've got a strange timeline with CP3 having limited years of efficacy yet, but the rest of the core still realistically needing another year, maybe two, to really hit their stride.

Still, insanely valuable experience. I'd expect them to be a better team next year, assuming they resign CP3. But you're right, the West will be tougher next year with the Lakers and Nuggets healthier. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

And they need a point guard and another playmaker on offense.

He's so emotionally erratic and does too much low IQ shit at times.

And when you're THE GUY, you can't just be disappearing in important games. Getting benched in The Finals is unthinkable. And once the shooting goes, he's not really contributing much of anything else to help make up for it.

The talent is obviously there but he's gotta be a lot more responsible and reliable.

before

But idk some of the body language and yeah the complaining was not a good look

I really like the guy and want to see him show more mental toughness

Especially when you don’t get calls (the ones you’re used to getting) and the other team is getting calls. You complain more and become frustrated.

I think he'll be fine.

He just doesn't have the body to go deep in the playoffs. They need a younger point guard. And i don't like the way the "complain to the refs and flop" CP3 style has basically invaded the entire Suns team. I just wouldn't risk a deep playoff run resulting in the same outcome. Strong on the ball defender basically rendered him irrelevant and exhausted after two games.

Yes, he couldn't handle Jrue in the last ~5 games. But the way to remedy that is bringing in another PG. If he plays closer to 27 MPG instead of 35 MPG, that makes a *huge* difference.

If you don't resign CP3, what PG is available that fills that role and those stats as effectively? Everyone wants to say "he's old, don't re-sign him," but no one has a real plan for what they do to replace his production and his leadership.

Both are available this summer.

Have a good day!

them in the finals, I hate CP3 but the narrative shifts are crazy for both teams

They can draft CP3's successor or trade for a young PG and keep going.

players have done this forever.

nobody seemed to care when Bird and crew did it prior.

it's really hard to feel sorry for him. the bucks were lucky he didn't go out throwing a cheap shot or two.

that quick shot of him storming off the court right after the loss felt about right. on the court, he's the opposite of the "pros pro" he's made out to be.

buyin 50 CFA minnies AND a lemonade/sprite to drink. this how you go broke!!


https://twitter.com/i/status/1417866801359118336

>buyin 50 CFA minnies AND a lemonade/sprite to drink. this how
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>https://twitter.com/i/status/1417866801359118336

he could buy 50 actual CFA restaurants and not go broke lol

https://twitter.com/UnfilteredInd/status/1417860818310422529

Like...he wasn't even clowning him. He straight trashed him.

Perks takes (Giannis is the robin) were wildly stupid so it’s fair game

(the goddess, not the shoe)

Everything he does just kicks ass.

As a total neutral party it’s been legitimately joyful to see the Bucks win.

younger than Lebron and Jordan when they won their first title

>Everything he does just kicks ass.
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>As a total neutral party it’s been legitimately joyful to
>see the Bucks win.