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Topic subjectCan we please kill the 'Yellow' mamba nonsense
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2741131, Can we please kill the 'Yellow' mamba nonsense
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-23-21 11:07 AM
We just spent at least 5 years educating the WFT why calling someone redskin is racist

...and here we are calling someone of mexican/PR heritage...Yellow

Please stop.
2741136, Well those things aren't equal
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-23-21 11:35 AM
Neither Mexicans nor Boricuas are known as "yellow"
That would, historically, relate to Asians.
If he were Asian, and someone called him "yellow" anything, then it would be in the same lane as "r*dskins" and other disparaging racial epithets. This ain't that.
2741141, You really want to debate this...?
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-23-21 11:42 AM
The 'Yellow' mamba moniker was already addressed when it was used for Lin

If 'Yellow' doesn't refer to Book's skin color...what does it refer to?

ELI5
2741147, Yes, it refers to his skin but the conotation isn't nearly the same.
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-23-21 11:54 AM
history and context matter. It's not at all comparable to "r*dskin" or anything related to Jeremy Lin. If he was called "Bean Mamba" or some shit, then you might be able to make a case. But, again, this ain't that.

I don't support or not support the nickname. I don't even think it's worth a post, honestly. But that shit is not even close to being the same.

2741171, RE: Yes, it refers to his skin.
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-23-21 01:12 PM
2741174, Oh you're one of those "white boy" is a slur types
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-23-21 01:25 PM
lol
2741184, Yes, I’m one of those people…
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jun-23-21 02:07 PM
that doesn’t refer to people by the color of their skin.
2741246, ok, white boy.
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-23-21 06:42 PM
2741261, I don’t mean this disrespectfully
Posted by Eff That, Wed Jun-23-21 08:50 PM
It’s just a question because I’m interested: What country are you from?

In the US, there’s a nuanced, but fairly clear series of conditions that make references to skin color not a one-size-fits-all kind of thing (eg calling someone a red bone vs calling someone the name of that football team).

I imagine it’s different elsewhere and different cultural sensitivities might create different interpretations of this.
2741283, White liberals...
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jun-23-21 11:42 PM
They're "color blind" they think that referencing that people are different is wrong. They whisper "he's... black." And somehow they feel entitled enough to tell black people how they can refer to other black people.
2741288, RE: White liberals...
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jun-24-21 06:41 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_yellow
2741305, RE: White liberals...
Posted by BlackeyFontainw, Thu Jun-24-21 08:23 AM
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whitesplain
2741317, lmao! white man gonna explain to me "high yellow"
Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Jun-24-21 10:17 AM
Jesus fucking christ white liberalism is a fucking disease.
Ay bruh, you wear your kentes on juneteenth?
2741330, Actually just finished Anette Gordon-Reed’s On Juneteenth
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jun-24-21 10:56 AM
Quick read
Highly recommend it.
2741335, Lol of course you did
Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Jun-24-21 11:39 AM
Can't wait to hear about your Kwanzaa celebration in 6 months.
2741289, I’m from the US and liberal enough to know yellow has a negative
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jun-24-21 06:44 AM
connotation for light skin black people in the US

2741297, That’s not the experience I’ve lived as a black person
Posted by Eff That, Thu Jun-24-21 07:49 AM
But that’s fine. Like I said, it’s not a one-size fits-all. Maybe the black people you know have had different experiences.

Your original post made no mention of light skinned black people, so I thought you were equating calling Jeremy Lin yellow with calling Booker yellow. That’s still not the case.
2741306, LOL what does being “liberal” have to do with this?
Posted by BlackeyFontainw, Thu Jun-24-21 08:25 AM
2741320, He's a reply away from saying how he would've voted for Obama a 3rd time
Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Jun-24-21 10:22 AM
2741338, He's a "sipping fine scotch" post waiting to happen
Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Jun-24-21 12:45 PM
2741347, OKP has some type of Total Recall for white dudes
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-24-21 03:02 PM
No matter how cool or chill they are one day they just snap.

2741354, stay out of black peoples business breh
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-24-21 06:23 PM
2741137, also its blasphemous because he's not that good
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed Jun-23-21 11:37 AM
2741142, LOL
Posted by allStah, Wed Jun-23-21 11:44 AM
2741153, lmao
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jun-23-21 12:11 PM
2741161, No
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Wed Jun-23-21 12:34 PM
2741167, no
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Jun-23-21 12:46 PM
2741290, Lol.
Posted by Soldado, Thu Jun-24-21 06:48 AM
2741302, It's taxonomically incorrect.
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-24-21 08:05 AM
Of the four variants of mambas, one is black and the other three are green. There is no yellow.
2741303, so you’re saying he’s a new breed of danger
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Jun-24-21 08:08 AM
heh
2741304, Possibly a lab-created genetically engineered hybrid species.
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-24-21 08:12 AM
2741325, RE: Possibly a lab-created genetically engineered hybrid species.
Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Thu Jun-24-21 10:34 AM
Isn't it equally plausible is that he emerged from the region's wet markets through natural zootropic occurrences?
2741334, Given climate change, we can't rule out any possibility.
Posted by Buck, Thu Jun-24-21 11:39 AM
2741336, Bentagin is white?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Jun-24-21 12:28 PM
and doing what white liberals do?

ugh..



2743313, the habitual linesteppers
Posted by MEAT, Sun Jul-18-21 08:42 AM
2741337, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezB6xk3OaHA
Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Jun-24-21 12:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezB6xk3OaHA
2741353, feels kinda sus to me. If a white person used that moniker it would feel weird
Posted by GOMEZ, Thu Jun-24-21 05:30 PM
this kind of falls in the lane of 'not my place to tell certain people what they can say, but I'll def steer clear.'

Plus as mentioned above, the comparisons to Kobe don't really land either.
2741375, yellow garter snake
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Jun-24-21 10:52 PM
2742040, Yella Mamba to the Finals!
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Wed Jun-30-21 11:04 PM
2742065, Mangu Mamba
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Jul-01-21 07:31 AM
2742068, Mofongo...
Posted by bentagain, Thu Jul-01-21 08:37 AM
Folks really too comfortable calling a light skin black man yellow...but don't let me stop ya'll
2742383, Has a black person told you this is offensive?
Posted by Eff That, Mon Jul-05-21 08:04 PM
I’m sorry, I’m just still very confused how you can be in a post with multiple black people telling you you’re wrong about something that is a uniquely black issue and you’re digging your heels in, telling us we’re wrong, with a Wikipedia article as your only support of that assertion.

I’m not saying you’re a bad person, I’m just confused about the logic and it feels like there must be more to the story than “I’m liberal therefore I’m qualified to speak confidently about this while ignoring the insights of those with relevant lived experiences”
2742394, I’m not comfortable calling a light skin black man yellow
Posted by bentagain, Tue Jul-06-21 06:23 AM
It’s really not that difficult to understand

The liberal thing was a label thrown out in a reply by another poster

I have no idea what that has to do with it either

Yes, I have been told by black people that is offensive

Apparently, a lot of people on okayplayer are fine with it

I’m actually shocked that folks are defending it

Ya’ll really advocating for Rachel Nichols to refer to Book as ‘yellow’…?
2742395, There’s a difference between you being personally uncomfortable
Posted by Eff That, Tue Jul-06-21 06:45 AM
And you policing how black people should engage with one another.

It’s basically the “Those rappers should stop calling each other the n-word” argument.
2742396, LOL@policing
Posted by bentagain, Tue Jul-06-21 07:27 AM
K

I made a post, on an internet message board...I'm not in every NBA post chasing folks through threads and shouting them down for using the term yellow to describe a light skin black man

Call him yellow if that's how you feel

<shrug>

I won't be.
2742397, Glad you’ve come around
Posted by Eff That, Tue Jul-06-21 07:47 AM
>Call him yellow if that's how you feel
>
><shrug>
>
>I won't be.

You can be uncomfortable with something without trying to convince others that it’s objectively wrong.

Seems like this post wasn’t necessary at all.
2742400, well that is refreshing that you are uncomfortable calling
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jul-06-21 08:55 AM
a Black person yellow

Thank you for the admission
2742416, Hate to break it to you, but you are Rachel Nichols.
Posted by Hitokiri, Tue Jul-06-21 10:40 AM
Ain't no black person told you shit about yellow being offensive.
Liberal, because everything you said is text book white liberal, but because you are one, you can't see the forest for the trees. Completely unaware of the critiques of white liberalism. Black folks up in this thread telling you that your claims are off-base but your white ass apparently knows the ins and outs and nuances of blackness so well that you have the audacity to tell the black folks that they're wrong and you're right on this. FOH.

Now you're gonna make the disingenuous leap from telling black folks, "ya'll are being racist calling him yellow" to "well do you want Rachel Nichols saying it?????"

Man just shut up.

Ain't nobody said "Bentagin, call him Yellow Mamba or else!" If you don't wanna say it, then don't. But you made a whole ass thread telling black folks how they can and can't refer to other black folks based on your off-base, WRONG, ass read of race and blackness.

2742428, white folks cant help themselves
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jul-06-21 11:36 AM
they just have to tell Black people what they should do
2742429, What's offensive for *you* to say about Black people
Posted by Cold Truth, Tue Jul-06-21 11:59 AM
is different from what Black people can/should say to/about one another.

It's your place to know what those boundaries are for *you*.

It's not your place to dictate that to them.

That you're trying to police how Black people refer to other Black people because it's something you're aware that *you* can't do, completely undermined whatever noble premise you thought you had when you made this poast.
2742521, I made this post after watching a game where white commentators
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jul-07-21 10:45 AM
used the term on a national platform

and then again used by a white commentator on a national broadcast during the morning highlights

This post was not addressed to you

We all know who stans for Book the hardest…and if I was policing I would address that person directly as well

Heard a light skin black man referred to as yellow by media personalities…cringed…made a post

Carry on.
2742530, So you decided to tell Black people on an ostensibly Black site
Posted by Cold Truth, Wed Jul-07-21 11:25 AM
to stop doing the thing you saw white people do.

Makes perfect sense.

>Heard a light skin black man referred to as yellow by media
>personalities…cringed…made a post

Except you didn't make a post about that.
And you didn't make the post to those people.

So no, that doesn't really work as a rationale for the post you actually made, in the place you actually made it.

2742543, RE: So you decided to tell Black people on an ostensibly Black site
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jul-07-21 01:31 PM
>to stop doing the thing you saw white people do.
>
>Makes perfect sense.
>
>>Heard a light skin black man referred to as yellow by media
>>personalities…cringed…made a post
>
>Except you didn't make a post about that.
>And you didn't make the post to those people.
>
>So no, that doesn't really work as a rationale for the post
>you actually made, in the place you actually made it.
>
>

I’m cryin’
2742537, But you have never addressed white commentators in this post
Posted by Eff That, Wed Jul-07-21 12:05 PM
All you’ve done is tell a bunch of black people what kind of language is offensive to black people and that you’re “shocked” that we don’t feel the same way you do.

I think you want to be an ally, but you’re doing it wrong. Allies listen.
2742548, And he quickly dropped that Mexican/Puerto Rican angle too
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jul-07-21 02:28 PM
like that had anything to do with anything.
2742584, Update; He’s still light skinned
Posted by bentagain, Wed Jul-07-21 05:36 PM
2742587, Update: White man doubles down on his indefensible bullshit... again!
Posted by Hitokiri, Wed Jul-07-21 06:02 PM
2742610, That’s what I get for trying to give the benefit of the doubt
Posted by Eff That, Thu Jul-08-21 12:30 AM
I feel like we’re due for a “you people” any moment now.

I’m out on this. I’m going to point him in the direction of post 35 and live my high yellow life.
2746610, You’re very weird, breh
Posted by BlackeyFontainw, Fri Sep-17-21 04:10 PM
Like really fucking weird.
2746626, 3XKrazy is this you?
Posted by bentagain, Sat Sep-18-21 08:13 AM

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2743713&mesg_id=2743713&page=#2744293

Almost as weird as maintaining an alias for close to 20 years
I'm impressed you remember the login
I'm not running from the criticism
or hiding behind fake burner accounts like KD
but I'm weird..OkayPlayer
I'll repeat it until everybody reads it
There's less than 50 people that post regularly on this entire site
Grow up.
2746628, lol, its weird indeed to see 3 posts from a 20y/o alias with 16 posts
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Sep-18-21 08:27 AM
2746761, What in the entire fuck are you talking about?
Posted by 3xKrazy, Sun Sep-19-21 01:53 PM
I’ve posted under one name for the entirety of my time here. No aliases. Go ask a mod to pull the IP addresses so they can confirm what a paranoid asshat you really are.

As if this thread couldn’t get any more embarrassing.
2746847, lmao , seek therapy
Posted by guru0509, Mon Sep-20-21 06:15 PM
>
>https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2743713&mesg_id=2743713&page=#2744293
>
>Almost as weird as maintaining an alias for close to 20 years
>I'm impressed you remember the login
>I'm not running from the criticism
>or hiding behind fake burner accounts like KD
>but I'm weird..OkayPlayer
>I'll repeat it until everybody reads it
>There's less than 50 people that post regularly on this entire
>site
>Grow up.
2746854, have you contacted the mods yet to verify the IP? Or should I?
Posted by 3xKrazy, Mon Sep-20-21 10:38 PM
>I'll repeat it until everybody reads it

yes let's make sure everybody see this

I love how this entire thread is full of people dunking on your ass yet for some bizarre reason you pulled *my* name out of thin air to blame for making an alias.

I dont even remember having any exchanges with you (good, bad, or otherwise) prior to that simone biles thread. Frankly it's a bit creepy that I'd even be in your head like that.
2746861, No
Posted by bentagain, Tue Sep-21-21 03:20 AM
See how simple that was
2746863, So then will you be apologizing for putting my name on this?
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Sep-21-21 07:35 AM
I mean you wrote that you were going to ‘repeat it so everyone sees it’

Has that plan been cancelled?
2746864, I asked if that was you
Posted by bentagain, Tue Sep-21-21 07:55 AM
I linked to why I thought that
You said it wasn't
The reply is directed to whoever that is
No, I'm not going to apologize for asking if that was you, being that you are the only person to reference this post in an unrelated post
I upped the Olympics post, which contains your reference to this post, to discuss the young ladies testimony
...and then this post got upped...
You were one of a few posters questioning the validity of Biles' withdrawal for mental health reasons

Feel free to contact the mods if you feel that strongly

Could've said no and K.I.M., but here we are
2746868, you put my name in the title. your post was directed at me.
Posted by 3xKrazy, Tue Sep-21-21 09:46 AM
>I linked to why I thought that

and your reasoning is bizarre. like i said, this ENTIRE site dunked on your wack ass in this thread. It could've been anyone. Or maybe this person is actually a legit account? I know, crazy to believe that yet another person on here would find your posting in this thread to be offensive and weird.

>No, I'm not going to apologize for asking if that was you,
>being that you are the only person to reference this post in
>an unrelated post

you're not going to apologize because you're a bitchmade cunt. and as demonstrated in this thread, when called out for being clearly wrong, instead of taking a step back and apologizing you simply double down on being a complete asshole.

you were following me around in the other thread, taking shots at me and posting like the incompetent asshole that you are. so I made mention of how embarrassing this thread was because it was relevant at the time. how this equates to me creating an alias to tell to you how embarrassing and weird you are doesn't make the least bit of sense.


>I upped the Olympics post, which contains your reference to
>this post, to discuss the young ladies testimony
>...and then this post got upped...

great job, detective.

>You were one of a few posters questioning the validity of
>Biles' withdrawal for mental health reasons

ya except that wasnt at all what was said. but you being the incompetent asshole that you are you simply can't grasp it. and again, none of this explains why i would be the one to create an alias to tell you that you're werid. I can do that from my own screen name like I'm doing right now.


>Feel free to contact the mods if you feel that strongly

LOL. If *I* feel that strongly? You're the one who's working overtime trying to figure out the identity of someone on a messageboard who called you weird. And who felt strongly enough to start bumping 2 month old threads and spitting assbrained theories to support your stupid accusations. And threaten to 'keep it going so everyone can read it' with the clear objective of trying to embarrass me. But now suddenly you don't feel all that strongly about it simply wanna 'KIM'? That's rich.


>Could've said no and K.I.M., but here we are

Ya, here we are. And it's your own doing.
2742405, In Kobe's first 6 years he had 3 championships, 4 All-Star appearances...
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue Jul-06-21 09:32 AM
1 All Star MVP, 5 time All-NBA(2 first team) 3 time All-Defense(1 first team).

Y'all better call him Yellow Clyde or Yellow Ray.
2742552, Brainier Zach Lavine
Posted by DJR, Wed Jul-07-21 02:42 PM
2742909, LOL. Right! I couldn't stand Kobe, but the comparison is silly
Posted by Lach, Mon Jul-12-21 03:23 PM
2746624, 3XKrazy is this you?
Posted by bentagain, Sat Sep-18-21 06:44 AM
https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2743713&mesg_id=2743713&page=#2744293

Almost as weird as maintaining an alias for close to 20 years
I'm impressed you remember the login
I'm not running from the criticism
or hiding behind fake burner accounts like KD
but I'm weird..OkayPlayer
I'll repeat it until everybody reads it
There's less than 50 people that post regularly on this entire site
Grow up.
2746627, Wrong spot
Posted by bentagain, Sat Sep-18-21 08:14 AM
2742523, He deserves his own nickname, scorpion would be cool 🦂
Posted by guru0509, Wed Jul-07-21 10:53 AM
>We just spent at least 5 years educating the WFT why calling
>someone redskin is racist
>
>...and here we are calling someone of mexican/PR
>heritage...Yellow
>
>Please stop.
2742783, RE: He deserves his own nickname <—- this is it
Posted by spirit, Sun Jul-11-21 01:41 AM
Like, it would be dumb if they called Kobe “New Magic” or Jordan “Dr Jordan” lol

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com
2742839, My wife suggested "Sidewinder", if people were trying for a Kobe connection
Posted by Cold Truth, Sun Jul-11-21 06:39 PM
She's not cool with "Yellow" anything, let alone Mamba

But she suggested Sidewinder, if people are going for a Kobe connection.

IMO that works perfectly, given that it's still a deadly snake, and a desert snake that inhabits Arizona.

I'd rock with that. Scorpion is cool too.
2742906, Scorpion and Sidewinder sounds like fake gangs from the 80’s
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Jul-12-21 03:13 PM

2743345, lol, maybe some guys are just better off with their names..ie D Book
Posted by guru0509, Sun Jul-18-21 05:45 PM
>
>
2743383, You went and fucked it up
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Jul-19-21 11:55 AM
I can't unhear that shit now

D Book sucks though

In that case, I'd just roll with Booker.
2743384, Book Worm...he could parlay it into a PSA for national literacy
Posted by guru0509, Mon Jul-19-21 12:32 PM
im clearly bored and fighting off the post-lunch fatigue

>I can't unhear that shit now
>
>D Book sucks though
>
>In that case, I'd just roll with Booker.
2743387, lmao@the qualifier
Posted by Cold Truth, Mon Jul-19-21 12:44 PM
Understood completely though lmao
2742857, Nah bruh
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-11-21 09:54 PM
2743310, he can't be getting ripped in crunch time and has to guard somebody
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-18-21 07:41 AM
2743312, It was all good just a week ago
Posted by bentagain, Sun Jul-18-21 08:00 AM
2743314, He is giving Phx 40 a game. He is doing more than his share.
Posted by Castro, Sun Jul-18-21 09:02 AM
2743322, The original Mamba was much more than a scorer.
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Jul-18-21 10:51 AM
2743320, Booker has done nothing but improve his rep in this series.
Posted by Sofian_Hadi, Sun Jul-18-21 10:47 AM
And these playoffs. He's fine. And a legit superstar.
2743321, Happens to all the Greats at some point...
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Sun Jul-18-21 10:48 AM
https://www.nba.com/magic/pmm08-nick-steal-v-jordan
2743373, This post led me to remember Matt Bonner, the Red Mamba.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jul-19-21 12:19 AM
That's the only thing I have to add here.
2743390, "I should never be compared to Kobe Bryant." (c)Devin Booker
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Jul-19-21 02:49 PM
2743393, He sounds like a smart kid
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Jul-19-21 03:40 PM
but that doesn’t mean others won’t compare him because that is what we do in sports.

2743410, RE: Can we please kill the 'Yellow' mamba nonsense
Posted by theMindofFury, Tue Jul-20-21 11:06 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lkosqRSU58

4:30-on
2765532, please do.
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-17-22 12:53 PM