We see what Pop is working with now. And we know how much mileage he got out of those older core-3 Spurs teams that were less talented than various teams in the West at different points (Warriors, Thunder, etc).

And Riley post-Lakers was squeezing out as much juice as possible with like 1 star, aging veterans, and hard nosed role players.

But I was moreso talking about that 2nd tier of coaches mentioned "outside of" the consensus top tier.

Shit...Larry Brown was winning chips or reaching the finals with undermanned Detroit and Philly teams, Don Nelson was pulling upsets with that We Believe Warriors roster, etc.

Meanwhile Doc is melting down with Top 1-3 rosters in the East/West.