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2736376, 2021 NBA Regular Season (5/2-5/8)|
Posted by CyrenYoung, Sun May-02-21 03:21 PM
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2736379, Get up, Blake!!|
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-02-21 04:39 PM
2736387, I’ve decided he’s a dirty player |
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-02-21 06:49 PM
2736388, You talking about when he went dove for that loose ball…|
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-02-21 07:10 PM
cuz I was talking about that put back dunk where his head was at the rim.
2736390, Right, he could’ve messed Giannis up already coming off a bad ankle...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-02-21 07:55 PM
>cuz I was talking about that put back dunk where his head was
>at the rim.
I don’t recall Blake ever diving for balls like that, seems like he’s trying to settle into the role of fake goon/designated flopper and cries to the refs way too much for a role player
2736455, I think he’s just accepted that he’s no longer a star and just…|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 07:32 PM
leaning into being a role player with the limited minutes he gets. I agree though, that could have been nasty. That’s the same why Bron got hurt against Atlanta.
2736380, BKN is either a Kyrie/KD iso or nothing |
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-02-21 04:52 PM
2736440, That’s because Harden is our PG |
Posted by guru0509, Mon May-03-21 04:47 PM
Yes I said “our”
2736444, Well, who else’s PG would he be?|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 05:58 PM
I’m not fan police guy. You’re a Brooklyn fan, by all means say we. I just broke down Dallas’ draft picks by declaring we got the best defensive player in the draft, lol.
2736447, Lol I’m just bracing myself. |
Posted by guru0509, Mon May-03-21 06:30 PM
Personally I wish we kept Dangelo and kept building
I got a few dirty looks from Nets players when I’d occasionally boo Kyrie and scream to bring DLO back lol
I’m just saying this offense looks way different when Harden running the show
Tbh he’s forced me to eat a lot of crow . I hated how he played in Houston , I hardly watched the rockets bc of him but his transformation in Bk was remarkable . I don’t know if he was ever close to Jokic but I remember hearing some MVP discussion around him
>I’m not fan police guy. You’re a Brooklyn fan, by all
>means say we. I just broke down Dallas’ draft picks by
>declaring we got the best defensive player in the draft, lol.
Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Mon May-03-21 06:40 PM
>I got a few dirty looks from Nets players when I’d
>occasionally boo Kyrie and scream to bring DLO back lol
2736454, LOL…so, Deandre Jordan wanted to catch you outside???|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 07:29 PM
2736459, i was surprised they heard it lol but it was quiet and my voice carries|
Posted by guru0509, Mon May-03-21 08:01 PM
They were playing some scrub team so it wasn’t a full house
It was Taurean Prince and Wilson Chandler that looked right at me lol
(this was his first season)
The only reason I got season tickets is because we got DLO I thought we’d keep him and make a run at Giannis when he was a free agent . They were 9k at the time lol (charged that shit to Amex and made 3 interest free payments ) and Barclays was emptyyy as hell.
Edit If any NYC or elsewhere OKps wanna hit a nets game in the fall and want really good seats (row 5) let me know . I’ll give you a family discount. Edit I don’t have playoff tickets because they made all the seats open to public this year.
2736394, So is LeBron anti play-in tournament?|
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Mon May-03-21 06:36 AM
LeBron James says whoever came up with the play-in tournament 'needs to be fired'
The Los Angeles Lakers lost their third straight game on Sunday, falling to the Toronto Raptors, 121-114.
As a result, they're now in a three-way tie with the Mavericks and Trail Blazers, which puts them in serious jeopardy of
winding up in the play-in tournament. And if all that wasn't bad enough, LeBron James left the game early with ankle soreness.
2736397, wasnt LeBron a big fan of it last year?! |
Posted by agentzero, Mon May-03-21 08:08 AM
2736398, Yes as are most traditionalists are.|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-03-21 08:08 AM
2736399, Hard to imagine it'll return|
Posted by Numba_33, Mon May-03-21 08:42 AM
when the season returns back to the normal 82 games. Having to play 82 games and instituting the play-ins would be brutal for those teams having to suffer through it.
2736406, It certainly won't return if the defending champs play in it and lose.|
Posted by mrhood75, Mon May-03-21 09:56 AM
That would be a disaster.
I've always hated it and thought it's awful idea. I'm sure Silver conceived it thought he'd be giving a chance to broadcast more games with Zion, Morant, etc. Best laid plans...
2736404, theyre all anti-play-in when they might be in it|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 09:47 AM
all these niggas (players and owners) voted for it though out of greed. so cry more lebron. Lakers playing like some spoiled hoes man.
2736425, RE: theyre all anti-play-in when they might be in it|
Posted by Numba_33, Mon May-03-21 12:31 PM
>all these niggas (players and owners) voted for it though out
If this season was the regular 82 game length and if fans were allowed to fully attend the games, I would agree with you on the players and owners being greedy. However, the fans (rightly) aren't allowed to fully attend the games live and the season was cut by 10 games, which further lessens whatever revenue the owners and the league can get.
I would have to imagine the league and the owners are losing out on some money this season. Television revenue is somewhat of a buffer, but the lack of ticket sales have to hurt somewhat.
2736424, I thought last years made sense. |
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 12:21 PM
Not so much this year. Though I do think it’ll be fun for the casual fan - but ultimately it probably shouldn’t be here to stay.
2736400, Woof. |
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 08:53 AM
2736405, they spoiled and comfortable this year. we not winning.|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 09:48 AM
absolutely zero hunger from anyone out there.
2736411, we played like trash at the start of the bubble last year|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-03-21 10:28 AM
2736413, Its been 2 months...|
Posted by CyrenYoung, Mon May-03-21 10:43 AM
..chemistry takes time to reestablish.
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2736415, they'd at least proven they were the best right before the stoppage|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 10:49 AM
this year we aint played good ball in months
2736420, Seems like a few things.|
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 11:55 AM
Obviously - the injuries are tough to understate.
The 71 day offseason certainly doesn't help - and it's not exactly the same, but 3/4 of the conference finalists are underperforming this year.
Vogel's fucking up with the minutes he's playing Marc. His rotations in the bubble last year left a lot to be desired, so I don't want to count him out here - but that was with a veteran-filled, hungry, healthy team. Not so much this one.
Championship fatigue is real.
And of course - Bron and AD playing the "we're not worried" game a bit too much.
Doesn't seem likely we're repeating, and boy does this team miss Dwight and Rondo, but whatever...get to the playoffs and see. If they flop - last year was cool. If not - great.
2736412, Dennis out 10-14 days…shit|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 10:40 AM
2736416, again??? wtf is this dude doing|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 10:50 AM
this the 2nd or 3rd time he's been on ice for covid protocols
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 11:57 AM
2736426, they dumb then|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 12:46 PM
2736428, OR they could be responding to other concerns/fears...|
Posted by CyrenYoung, Mon May-03-21 01:05 PM
..I don't know Shroder personally, but he's stated some of his concerns in previous interviews. Who knows how those concerns have evolved since then, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (esp considering all the misinformation surrounding this pandemic).
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2736429, Dennis seems like he hangs out around a lot of bobo mf's that think...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-03-21 01:11 PM
the virus is fake
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-03-21 04:06 PM
2736437, I was about to post that I never heard "bobo" in that context|
Posted by mrhood75, Mon May-03-21 04:13 PM
I figured you just meant he was hanging with dumb MFs.
Posted by CyrenYoung, Mon May-03-21 04:34 PM
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2736421, Play in tournament here we come.|
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 11:56 AM
Hahahah. What a stupid year.
Whatever man. Just get healthy.
2736423, So he did the Lakers a favor|
Posted by Numba_33, Mon May-03-21 12:18 PM
when he turned down the contract extension they floated him, uh?
Wonder who will be the lucky team that will overpay him during the offseason.
2736430, Still gonna be us.|
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 01:53 PM
But yeah he definitely fucked himself out of some money but not getting vaxxed.
2736446, I rather pay Lowry $50mil x 2, than Dennis $100mil x 4|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-03-21 06:13 PM
2736449, That ship sailed. |
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 07:00 PM
2736445, Most interesting aspect in all of this is LeBron not getting vaxxed|
Posted by RandomFact, Mon May-03-21 06:08 PM
he's certainly had extra free time lately with the ankle so a worry about getting sick for a day or two after the shot(s) and missing a game isn't an excuse.
rumor has it that zach lavine was one of the bulls to not get it and then he goes and tests positive and the season is over while the trade for vuc looks like an L.
don't know what reasons these dudes have but they definitely deserve the side eye.
2736450, For sure. |
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-03-21 07:02 PM
I'm not entirely surprised given his answer to the vaccine question awhile back...but, cmon Bron.
Also he's really amped up the plea copping (along with the rest of the team). Feels like they went from, "Nobody wants to see us in the playoffs" to "Weird year, we just look lost and injuries have been tough" REAL quick
2736452, Bron told people off the rip he wasn’t getting it|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 07:04 PM
Idk why folks didn’t believe it
2736453, Looks like?|
Posted by allStah, Mon May-03-21 07:21 PM
I said when the trade was made that it was terrible trade, and the two
were terrible together before Lavine got quarantined. However ,the beauty out
all of this is that Coby White has been balling on both sides of the ball,
and really running the offense.
Getting vaccinated is still a personal choice because science still doesn’t know
how long the protection will last. The current estimation is 6 months. So there are
people who don’t want to get multiple shots, and want more safety data,
since safety data on the vaccine is less than 6 months. And if history has taught
us anything there is nothing wrong with the wait and see approach, especially,
if you have a healthy body in general.
We have no idea what these guys are enduring on a day to day basis or what
they are going through with their families.
One thing we do know , though, is that Zach Lavine is trash defensively.
2736463, Here's what I think happened w/ the Bulls:|
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Mon May-03-21 08:56 PM
1. The new Bulls front office saw an opportunity to get Vucevic and SOME would say they pushed all their chips* in to get him.
They did this for two reasons:
+ They genuinely wanted to compete for the playoffs
+ They wanted to show LaVine (whose contract is up in 2022) that they were committed to winning.
* (Karnisovas is on record saying the Bulls are not done constructing this team so that's not really putting ALL of their chips in).
It was a bold move that I don't see the previous front office even considering.
I'll admit personally with the season LaVine was having and the help Vucevic provided,
I thought the Bulls were definitely going to make the playoffs.
2. Bulls next 10 games:
3. Bad losses with this new team (especially the last 3) let management know this team wasn't going to
make the play in tournament let alone the playoffs. And even if they did, they would get swept in the 1st round.
So they pivoted.
4. Health and Safety protocols allowed them to disguise sitting LaVine
to ensure a higher chance at keeping their 2021 pick which is top 4 protected.
The question I have for Bulls fans, which is better?
A. Competing for the playoffs, a definitely 1st round exit and losing the 7th pick.
B. Improving your chance at a top 4 pick to 32%.
2736467, Which is better?|
Posted by allStah, Mon May-03-21 11:13 PM
The focus should have been on truly developing and building the team. That is where the focus should have been, and not making a rash decision to bring in a center who gives you nothing defensively, as well as that decision handcuffing the team from making FA moves in future.
We did this with the previous management. We constantly rationalized their personnel
moves to somehow make sense of them.
The Vuecvic trade could really set this rebuild back. He is owed 24 million
next season and 22 million after that. So he will be on the books for 46 mil
for the next 2 seasons.
And next season Zach will be in the final season of his contract, and will
probably want 30 million a season. The Bulls can offer him as much as 190 mil
for 5 years...but no way in hell is he worth that, and that would be a lot of money
on the books in combination with Vue’s money.
Anyway, Zach isn’t going to sign an extension. He is going to do a Gordon Hayward,
and walk to an enormous deal elsewhere. This is why the bulls should have traded
him earlier in the year when teams came calling. No team is going to trade for him
now with only one year left on his contract, when they can just wait until the end of
the season to sign him.
We are going to be stuck with Vue, Coby and nobodies, swinging away at drafts for
the next 3 years.
We are screwed.
2736472, RE: Which is better?|
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Tue May-04-21 02:01 AM
>The focus should have been on truly developing and building
>the team. That is where the focus should have been, and not
>making a rash decision to bring in a center who gives you
>nothing defensively, as well as that decision handcuffing the
>team from making FA moves in future.
Karnisovas didn't trade Jimmy Butler for Markkanan and LaVine.
Karnisovas didn't draft Coby White and Wendell.
They inherited these players and after a season
of evaluating the roster, they're realizing this roster was poorly
constructed from the beginning.
Markannan is done. No way they extend him. Theis is playing over him.
White is still young and I'm kinda hoping we keep him.
Thad is a great vet, but he's not part of the core.
Same for Temple.
Much of this team could be gone this offseason.
>The Vuecvic trade could really set this rebuild back.
Because of an unknown, 19 year old picked at #7?!
>owed 24 million
>next season and 22 million after that. So he will be on the
>books for 46 mil
>for the next 2 seasons.
John Salmons and Brad Miller? Remember Them? That was the last time the Bulls made a trade at the deadline to improve the team.
I don't know what your stance was during the Paxon/Forman years,
but fans have been clamoring for a more creative front office for a decade.
Now we have one that actually improved the team via trade, and some of
those same fans are crying about losing the 7th pick in the draft.
2736480, How on earth is this team improved?|
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 09:22 AM
This team has gotten worst since the trade, while the Magic have gotten better!
The Magic were licking their chops when they saw the Bulls coming,
and sold them a lemon. No one else in the league was/is interested in Vuecvic.
The Bulls were competing for a play in game before he came. I wasn’t the
biggest fan of Wendell Carter, but he played some defense. Daniel Gafford is
balling in Washington. I mean balling.
The previous management didn’t let Shaq Harrison go, who is balling
The previous management didn’t let Dunn go.
The previous management didn’t trade Carter and Gafford, who
have improved their teams.
And all those players were picked from the previous management.
However, this ain’t about the previous management. They are gone.
This is about the current management and how they made a move
that could leave this team in a bad state for years to come.
This management has yet to do anything to separate itself from the previous
management. I don’t see a difference. Other than bringing in Donovan, most
of the moves have been shit. And Patrick Williams has regressed,
but he is rookie. I do like him, but he has been playing like crap since
We focking traded Gafford/Hutchinson/Carter for a 30 year old defensive
bum ass center who can’t move his feet or guard a fly.
That’s improving the team?
I count 5 shit ass moves by this organization that could possibly kill this team
However, the verdict is still out. I’m a Bulls fan through thick or thin. So I will
be here. This year, however, the grade is a F.
2736491, Ha. I know this team is better.|
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Tue May-04-21 12:31 PM
1. Carter, Gafford, Hutchison, Otto? NONE of those guys were playing in the 4Q either due to health or just poor play.
Given the same pre-season and practice time,
I know this current roster is better than what we started with.
But I'm not getting attached to anyone on this roster. I expect big changes this offseason.
2. Dude. Dunn is JUST NOW getting on the court in Atlanta.
3. Gafford and Hutchison are benefiting from the attention Westbrook and Beal get. Bulls don't have that. I thought Gafford was a solid rim protector, not much else defensively.
4. Wendell probably needed a new environment. Even more so, the Bulls couldn't wait for him to figure it out. I'll take Vucevic's 20/10 every night and watch teams try to deal with him and LaVine in the PNR and deal with his defense.
2736494, You’re making the same types of excuses that were made |
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 12:54 PM
when gar/pax made shit moves.
Prior to the trades we were sitting nicely in a play-in spot, but since the trade
we have fallen out of that spot. And the playing like crap since the trade
happened before Zach got quarantined. Bulls actually started playing a little
better once he got shelved.
It’s okay to say that the FO has made some terrible moves.
Everyone was screaming about how the Vuecvic trade was going to push our
playoff run. I told you then it was a shit trade, and I’m still saying it.
The FO made a dumb frantic move, and the Magic are
laughing their asses off.
And you’re still saying that we are much better team when the numbers say that
you are wrong.
Maybe it comes to fruition later down the road, who knows.
But to give up those picks and young players for a player who is a
HUGE negative on defense say it is one of the worst moves in Bulls history.
Getting rid of Jimmy wasn’t all that bad because Jimmy was a locker room
cancer, even Rondo said that about Jimmy’s behavior and statements.
And at least the Bulls brought in young players, and not some aging bum
ass center who walks opposing players to the basket.
2736500, If the Bulls get a top 4 pick, I'm dancing.|
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Tue May-04-21 01:45 PM
If not, it's cool.
I know moves will be made.
2736505, That’s cool. |
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 02:12 PM
I’m just going to wait and see.
2736474, In this draft, you *need* a Top 5 pick.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue May-04-21 06:06 AM
The drop-off after 5 is significant. I could make the case that the 6th pick would be fine too... but yeah, the drop-off in surefire talent after that is pretty real.
I would’ve tanked, personally.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Tue May-04-21 12:40 PM
Before Patrick Williams, the Bulls have picked 7th the last 3 years.
And fans crucified the previous FO for not deciding on a path: Rebuild or try to compete.
I give this new front office props for
1. Recognizing this team wasn't good enough to make the playoffs and being able to pivot to...
2. Actively trying to improve their draft position.
Now all of a sudden trading away the 7th pick is going to ruin the Bulls rebuild?
2736479, probably same reason Novak Djokovic didnt get it|
Posted by Robert, Tue May-04-21 08:51 AM
"my body is like super super rare..unlike everyone else's..not gonna fuck that up by adding some unknown random shit to it"
and honestly, if i was one of those 2 guys? i might feel the same way
2736451, this marvel shit is hilarious man|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 07:04 PM
2736457, Dime em up Brodie|
Posted by Beezo, Mon May-03-21 07:49 PM
2736458, I love when he does that quick snap, two hand pass|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 07:52 PM
2736464, 14/21/24…Wiz 12-3 in their last 15|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-03-21 09:01 PM
2736465, Wow we are rolling....|
Posted by Castro, Mon May-03-21 09:53 PM
Balanced offense.... suffocating D..... energetic bench. This momentum is going to be great going into these games versus the heavies
2736466, we actually look normal w/ Marc in. give him his minutes back|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 10:23 PM
im tired of watching brickhand Drummond.
2736469, cruising in the 4th until Vogel’s Drummond boner flared up|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-03-21 11:40 PM
Put this nigga on the bench man
2736470, Westbrook grabbed 21 rebounds last night.|
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 12:06 AM
Len is the center and Hachimura is the PF
Len grabbed 2 rebounds, and Hach grabbed 7. That’s the usual stat line every
night. Every single night, Westbrook is double digit in rebounds while
his big men barely get 5 or 7 boards.
You are a big man and you’re not even allowed to get rebounds. That’s some
focked up shit.
But hey getting scripted triple doubles sells records.
2736471, Give Drummond 3rd stringer minutes. Trez is so much better. |
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 02:01 AM
That said...let’s get this bad season together. Reminds me so much of 2011.
2736476, Honestly I think they promised Drummond a starting job to get him to sign|
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-04-21 07:35 AM
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 01:01 PM
But we tried that. It didn't work. Better players have accepted lesser roles to win titles. Dwight right today is better than this Drummond, and he came off the damn bench while being a 8x all star and 3x DPOY, and that's a dude who was known for being difficult. Drummond can suck it up if he actually wants to boost his value for the offseason.
2736473, Wiz 13-3 over the last 16. Fantastic work by Russ last night.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue May-04-21 06:02 AM
They’re now in really good position for the play-in game. Considering they lost like 10 of 13 after the COVID shutdown when multiple players got COVID, and considering their third best player is Rui Hachimura, this recovery is fairly impressive imo. Other stars would’ve packed it in, said they have an “ankle injury,” and let the team tank.
2736482, Lol @ Kerr praising draymonds defense when Zion dropped 32 on his head |
Posted by guru0509, Tue May-04-21 09:59 AM
2736488, they won, NO's offensive numbers were down across the board|
Posted by Kungset, Tue May-04-21 12:14 PM
and Zion shot double digits below his avg shooting %
2736489, This is a weird take.|
Posted by mrhood75, Tue May-04-21 12:15 PM
2736483, AD was on the block last night, only took 2 threes, 7 FT's, he should...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-04-21 10:48 AM
play like that every night
2736509, yep he's getting his mojo back|
Posted by Amritsar, Tue May-04-21 02:55 PM
2736495, Why does nobody trust the Nuggets, Jazz, or Suns?|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 12:55 PM
I'm certainly guilty of this myself. And less so on the Nuggets (though obviously when Jamal went down nobody was expecting them to still be so good), but the Jazz and Suns are the class of the league right now and I feel like NOBODY thinks they can make a deep run. Obviously, you have the championship pedigree on teams like the Nets, Lakers, Clippers, etc - but those teams are really good and this year is still pretty bizarre.
I'm not sold they can do it, but I really wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Jazz in the finals.
2736497, Those organizations don’t have a history of championship success|
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 01:18 PM
or consistently and constantly being contenders.
They will be placed in the prove it category until they actually win it.
2736499, But that's a really weird reason, right?|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 01:26 PM
One championship squad in another era doesn't mean a current team will or won't win it all. Hell, the Nets aren't a team with a title or even one I'd deem always in the mix to be a contender - and obviously the Clippers. Shit, the Suns have more finals appearances than the Clippers do.
2736501, Those teams consist of championship winners |
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 01:49 PM
Kawhi Leonard/ Serge
No superstar champions on the nuggets/ jazz/ suns.
2736502, None on the Sixers either|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 01:53 PM
I mean, you can count Dwight and DG if you want I guess. But they're not the centerpieces of their team. And I wouldn't be shocked to see the Sixers win it all if healthy.
2736503, The sixers are a legendary basketball franchise|
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 01:56 PM
with a history of getting to the finals and winning chips. It’s the sixers.
Nuggets/Suns/Jazz don’t have that history.....not yet
2736504, But again - why does THAT matter?|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 02:12 PM
Like, whatever...sure. Well run, stable organizations mean something there. But since the Sixers last saw a finals, it was 21 years ago. It's not the same organization in any way shape or form.
2736506, This is the way people view things.|
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 02:21 PM
You are what you are based on your track record, based on your history.
Same reason why your wack ass lakers are still favored. Team was playing
like crap even before the injuries, but lakers were still favored.
It’s the lakers.
People still think they are going to switch it on just like that.
2736529, I mean, that’s just objectively wrong. |
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 04:10 PM
People believe in championship pedigree, LeBron, and the fact that the record and play are tough to judge given injuries. This isn’t a discussion of what FAs will land where. That’s more what you’re saying.
2736532, If the lakers were any other team, |
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 04:28 PM
they would have been buried by the critics and reporters already.
However, they are the lakers, so they are going to get support
even when they don’t deserve it.
They have been there. They have done it. The Nuggets, the Jazz, the suns haven’t
been there or done it.
And until they do, they will not get the same attention.
Also you answered your own question : “people believe in championship pedigree”’
Nuggets, Suns, Jazz don’t have that kind of history.
2736536, Guess you and I just watch different things|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 05:06 PM
Because the media has been on a real doomscroll session for the Lakers.
But sure man.
2736538, I guess we do. Espn, Shannon Sharpe are always |
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 05:26 PM
on their jock.
Especially on The Jump.
There may be a little pushback now since Dennis is going to be
out for 14 days.
But until recently, cats were like no one wants to face the lakers when
they get healthy.
2736540, Shannon said YESTERDAY the Lakers are in trouble. |
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 05:31 PM
2736547, Right, yesterday.|
Posted by allStah, Tue May-04-21 08:04 PM
I clearly said up until recently. For most of the season Shannon has been
screaming the lakers are taking it.
Here is Shannon just three weeks ago screaming about the lakers taking it
once the GOATS get back with Drummond.
I watch these shows everyday. And they have been pro lakers UP UNTIL
RECENTLY ( like a few days ago since Dennis tested positive for Covid)
I watch these shows everyday, and they have been pro lakers until recently.
2736498, I think it's the "little playoff experience" thing|
Posted by mrhood75, Tue May-04-21 01:21 PM
I don't personally buy it, but the essential school of thought is most of the key players on those teams have made a deep play-off run or played in the post-season all that much (CP3 being the notable exception).
edit: Local radio has talked up the difference between the "82-game player" and the "16-game player," and how the Jazz and the Sun don't have many of the latter. Forgetting of course that a lot of the players on the Warriors didn't have much play-off experience before winning it all in 2015.
But, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Jazz go deep or even win it all.
2736511, lack of playoff success and top 10 players|
Posted by Cenario, Tue May-04-21 03:01 PM
I'd believe in the nuggets if they had murray
2736515, Cause they are west coast teams not named the Lakers|
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue May-04-21 03:25 PM
I think its because most of the people watching the NBA are on the East Coast and those teams are notorious for great regular seasons and playoff stankiness
Its not fair but that’s it in a nutshell.
2736531, The Jazz lost in the first round last year and the Suns didn't even make...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-04-21 04:21 PM
the playoffs last year. The Nuggets are missing a key play from last year's WCF run even though they have played well since he's been hurt.
2736535, Chris Paul led a worse team nearly to the 2nd round last year.|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 04:53 PM
I get that Booker, etc might not be ready for the bright lights and all that...but it's a different season. It's shortened, players are injured left and right, the fan element is still going to be weird/up in the air...weird shit can happen.
2736537, we know regular season hype when we see it|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue May-04-21 05:14 PM
2736545, UTA in particular is too reliant on the 3 + gobert is a liability|
Posted by bearfield, Tue May-04-21 07:30 PM
we all know what happens when 3s aren't hitting. if they're not hitting 3s in the wrong game then UTA is likely outmatched. gobert gets picked on in switches in the post season. jokic has his number as well. not sure about the gobert vs AD matchup but i would think that AD cooks him in the mid-range
PHX is young, unproven, and un-tested. folks are right to doubt them. bridges and johnson can hit corner 3s at a high clip in low-stakes regular season games. unsure if they'll perform in the same way when the season is on the line. book, CP3, and crowder seem solid enough but i think PHX will need more than them to get past tougher opponents in the playoffs
DEN has the best chance of the 3 teams in question. they're playoff-proven and undeniably gutsy. jokic is about as clutch as a player can be. however without murray teams will focus on jokic and MPJ and force DEN's streaky and unreliable shooters to beat them. i like the other team's chances when barton, morris, campazzo, etc are deciding the fate of the game
2736549, I agree with the Utah bit.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue May-04-21 10:00 PM
I ultimately don't trust Donovan Mitchell when the game's on the line. Same with the Nuggets minus Murray tbh.
Suns are interesting because I may not trust Paul or Booker individually... but together, I'm not mad at the combo. And the defense is way stronger than expected. If I'm picking a team of these three (without Murray), I'm picking Phoenix.
2736552, this is true. DEN can't defend and PHX can|
Posted by bearfield, Wed May-05-21 02:21 AM
>Suns are interesting because I may not trust Paul or Booker
>individually... but together, I'm not mad at the combo. And
>the defense is way stronger than expected. If I'm picking a
>team of these three (without Murray), I'm picking Phoenix.
if it comes down to a slow-paced half court game about shot creation and getting stops — like many playoff games do — PHX definitely has an advantage with CP3, booker, and their defense
2736614, Crazy as it sounds, PHX has a non-zero shot at the Finals.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed May-05-21 04:51 PM
You can still get PHX at +1400 to win the title. In terms of picking futures eyeballing possible hedges? That's... a crazy price.
2736530, LeBron to miss next 2 games?|
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-04-21 04:15 PM
2736533, AKA he's fine with what he saw from the team yesterday.|
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-04-21 04:36 PM
2736548, Knicks the only team whose 2 best players have missed no games?|
Posted by Lach, Tue May-04-21 09:18 PM
2736615, RJ Barrett is shooting over 43% from 3 since the ASG.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed May-05-21 04:53 PM
He's doing a phenomenal job not forcing those shots, letting them come to him way more, picking and choosing his spots. He's still not a guy defenses will trust to shoot 3s... but if he can make stand-still open 3s at this high a clip going forward? I mean... he'll be an All-Star.
2736550, Lol at the Nets being so mediocre without Harden|
Posted by guru0509, Wed May-05-21 12:30 AM
I think they’re barely .500 with him out of the lineup. I’m taking Philly to come out of the East at this point
2736587, they were rolling without him and KD for a while|
Posted by bearfield, Wed May-05-21 02:16 PM
lately their lack of interest in rebounding and inconsistent ability to get stops has been killing them. they should win almost any game when they are hitting 20 threes at 40% and with KD and kyrie putting up 70
2736618, RE: they were rolling without him and KD for a while|
Posted by guru0509, Wed May-05-21 07:03 PM
The Nets are 27-7 with James Harden since the trade.
9-9 without him.
Kd and Kyrie won’t get it done vs Philly or Milwaukee
Harden and Kyrie won’t either
Gotta have beard and kd
edit the East is tough this year
2736620, i meant they were winning games with just kyrie|
Posted by bearfield, Wed May-05-21 07:16 PM
which is better than you might expect, given the composition of that team. my memory is they had a nice 3-4 game win streak with just kyrie but i guess they were losing about as many as they were winning without harden and KD. i agree that harden is the thing that makes BKN work. games without harden seem like a coin flip. games with harden are closer to a rigged coin flip
2736622, Yeah They were.|
Posted by allStah, Wed May-05-21 09:01 PM
Kyrie was killing. People are bugging.
The problem is actually KD. He isn’t a facilitator, so without harden to balance things
out, or with just Kyrie and KD there are too many isolations
Kyrie and Harden are guards ..KD isn’t.
Harden without KD or Kyrie can get wins
Kyrie without harden and KD can get Ws
Kyrie and Harden can get mad Ws.
But when it’s just KD with just one of the other guards, there
are too many iSOs, and others not getting the ball.
Kyrie and Harden get others involved...KD doesn’t because he isn’t a guard.
Elite, efficient score, but getting others involved isn’t his thing. So when one of the
guards is out for the game , and he is out there by himself with the second unit,
while Kyrie or Harden ( depending on which one is out) is subbed out, the offense
just goes through him.
Kyrie-shamet-Harris-Green-Jordan ...were killing cats before KD came back. And
Brown came off the bench as the scorer.
2736625, You are bugging . |
Posted by guru0509, Wed May-05-21 10:38 PM
>The problem is actually KD.
2736626, No. He isn’t bad. |
Posted by allStah, Wed May-05-21 11:51 PM
That’s not what I’m saying. It’s KD. Best in the business.
Put it like this. If Kyrie and Harden were both out,
he wouldn’t be able to lead Brooklyn like they can with him out.
KD isn’t going to make sure that Shamet, Green, Harris
or Brown get shots.
Kyrie and Harden will. They both, this year, have turned into good
facilitators after being labeled ball hogs for the majority of their careers.
KD will get his 30 on 50 pct shooting. No doubt. But he ain’t going to
have double digit assists to go along with that like Kyrie or Harden will.
That’s the difference with their losses...Since KD has been back, shamet,
Brown, green have faded to the back.
2736683, This team would be fine without Kyrie.|
Posted by guru0509, Thu May-06-21 10:39 PM
>That’s not what I’m saying. It’s KD. Best in the
>Put it like this. If Kyrie and Harden were both out,
>he wouldn’t be able to lead Brooklyn like they can with him
>KD isn’t going to make sure that Shamet, Green, Harris
>or Brown get shots.
>Kyrie and Harden will. They both, this year, have turned into
> facilitators after being labeled ball hogs for the majority
>of their careers.
>KD will get his 30 on 50 pct shooting. No doubt. But he
>ain’t going to
>have double digit assists to go along with that like Kyrie or
>That’s the difference with their losses...Since KD has been
>Brown, green have faded to the back.
2736684, Now you’re bugging|
Posted by allStah, Thu May-06-21 10:43 PM
2736701, One dimensional player that fails to involve others around him |
Posted by guru0509, Fri May-07-21 10:53 AM
He missed so many open passes to other players lady night bc he was caught up going one on one vs Luka
It would have been obvious last season but kyrie decided he didn't wanna play if KD wasn't .They learned last season that he's a flakey me first weirdo who can't be depended on.
Without Harden this team is going nowhere, nets management saw the writing on the wall and that's why they traded all their good young assets for Harden .
Kd and Kyrie together won't beat Philly or Milwaukee in 7. I'd put money on it but Harden will be back for the first round so it's moot.
2736623, Jokic is out here shitting all over the Knicks!|
Posted by allStah, Wed May-05-21 09:14 PM
26-8-2 first half.
No Murray, No Barton, No Dozier, No Morris
Straight Larry Bird style.
MVP and it ain’t close.
They up by 20 ..even if the Knicks come back....straight kilt these dudes.
2736624, Anthony Edwards fry fest|
Posted by Beezo, Wed May-05-21 09:53 PM
2736686, Not good...|
Posted by CyrenYoung, Thu May-06-21 11:25 PM
..AD rolling his ankle after backing into the video board, leaves the game a few minutes later, but doesn't return because of back spasms.
The next 2 weeks will be interesting.
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
2736689, Knicks remaining schedule is going to be interesting|
Posted by Lach, Fri May-07-21 07:36 AM
Hawks got a somewhat easy go at it the rest of the way with only 1 road game left. Celtics gotta battle Miami twice in the next week. Battle for 4-7 is about to heat up.
2736700, RE: Knicks remaining schedule is going to be interesting|
Posted by Castro, Fri May-07-21 10:47 AM
Sheeeit..Knicks have the hardest of those three...I'd we can squeak out two wins....that will do is a world of good.
2736699, Lakers/Blazers tonight should be fun…|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-07-21 10:39 AM
Blazers can take the 6th spot and push the Lakers into play-in zone. AD is going. They need him. He was getting his groove back, before last night, too.
2736703, Dames about to murder us. |
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-07-21 11:04 AM
2736704, Lol…I really do feel like he’s going to be on one, tonight.|
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-07-21 11:18 AM
2736706, Despite my best efforts|
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-07-21 11:35 AM
I feel like I'm gonna be stressed out the remainder of our season - however long that's gonna go.
2736708, i can only get as invested as they are|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri May-07-21 11:57 AM
and right now they dont seem to give a squirrel fuck. our play is absolutely pathetic.
2736709, I guess. |
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-07-21 12:14 PM
But at the same time - I refuse to be one of those spoiled fans now that I’m older and have perspective.
The damn Kings haven’t been in the playoffs in the time it’s taken the Lakers to win *3* titles.
Last year was magical. This year started fine enough and now here we are. It sucks, and who knows - they may do better than we think - but I’m taking solace in last year and getting the team healthy.
2736711, Seeing the pain of lakers nation makes |
Posted by allStah, Fri May-07-21 01:16 PM
me feel all fuzzy and shit....like a warm blanket.
It’s the greatest feeling in the world.
2736712, Meanwhile the last Bulls banner can drink legally. |
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-07-21 01:25 PM
And has been able to for 2 years.
We're good, dude.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri May-07-21 01:51 PM
2736715, break yourself, fool!!|
Posted by allStah, Fri May-07-21 02:04 PM
2736716, I mean, I get it|
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-07-21 02:12 PM
You think the Lakers losing is a better feeling than the Bulls winning.
It's cause you forgot what that feels like.
It's hard to remember things from your 40's when it's 23 years later.
2736717, Phone check, homie.|
Posted by allStah, Fri May-07-21 02:17 PM
Phone check, punk.
2736771, U mad your last MVP was 10 the last time y’all won a chip? I get it. |
Posted by Ryan M, Sat May-08-21 06:08 PM
2736732, Celtics gone fuck around and fuck around |
Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-07-21 09:44 PM
Posted by pretentious username, Fri May-07-21 10:10 PM
World class team one night. Losing to a bad team the next. Rinse and repeat.
2736738, damn. zion's dunking finger broke and they tawmbout he's out for the|
Posted by poetx, Fri May-07-21 10:46 PM
remainder of the season?
that's fucked up.
hate it for the pels. he's been balling.
peace & blessings,
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
2736744, Obvious shutdown to gain lottery equity.|
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat May-08-21 09:21 AM
2736743, AD balled out last night but not enough help, Harrell got another DNP...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-08-21 08:58 AM
for whatever reason
2736745, i dont understand anything we are doing man|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat May-08-21 09:36 AM
Harrell and Gasol played too well this season to have to sit behind bum ass Drummond
idc what he was promised this isnt right.
2736756, I agree, my only hope is Vogel has some secret strategies...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-08-21 12:10 PM
that he’s keeping under wraps.
We looked like ass going into the playoffs last year.
2736762, Managing expectations...|
Posted by CyrenYoung, Sat May-08-21 02:30 PM
..the fans are understandably frustrated, but there was never a simple solution to the current challenges facing the Lakers this season.
Nothing matters if Bron & AD aren't healthy.
*skatin' the rings of saturn*
..and miles to go before i sleep...
Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-08-21 08:50 PM
ties Oscar Robertson all time at 181 triple doubles, clutch block and free throws to win the game with no Brad Beal in OT, Wiz 15-4 in their last 19, 9th spot in the East.
2736774, sick, what happened to Beal in OT?|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-08-21 09:06 PM
>ties Oscar Robertson all time at 181 triple doubles, clutch
>block and free throws to win the game with no Brad Beal in OT,
>Wiz 15-4 in their last 19, 9th spot in the East.
2736775, tweaked his hamstring…|
Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-08-21 09:13 PM
in the 4th quarter…after dropping 50
2736777, doesn't look good, it would be a shame if its something serious|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-08-21 10:37 PM
2736776, First quarter: OKC 25, Steph 24 😢|
Posted by Dstl1, Sat May-08-21 09:45 PM
2736778, Steph got his foot on Brad Beal neck lol|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat May-08-21 10:54 PM
2736789, Man, he dropped 49 and didn’t play in the 4th quarter 🤯|
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-09-21 06:25 AM
2736780, Watching Jokic makes me wish Portland had prime Sabonis |
Posted by guru0509, Sat May-08-21 11:00 PM
Bc Dymontas does not look or play like his father (at least the one I saw in Portland)
>*skatin' the rings of saturn*
>..and miles to go before i sleep...
Posted by allStah, Sat May-08-21 11:43 PM
Sabonis went 30/13/13 tonight.
2736784, He doesn’t pass like Jokic is what I’m saying. Joker got dimes |
Posted by guru0509, Sat May-08-21 11:51 PM
I know baby sabonis is a great player / all star
His father had behind the back bounce passes , no looks , etc
>Sabonis went 30/13/13 tonight.
2736783, Fuck OKC |
Posted by DJR, Sat May-08-21 11:45 PM
Imagine benching TY JEROME because he played too well the other night.
*Yes I’m in the fantasy finals and stumbled upon him as a pickup and now they’re ruining it for me. I hope they get the lowest draft pick they can possibly get.
2736786, What OKC, Houston, and the Pistons are doing is atrocious.|
Posted by allStah, Sun May-09-21 12:15 AM
I’ve never seen anything like it. They are benching healthy players to ensure
that their teams lose games. And the players that are playing are not even trying
This is why in fantasy never take any players from OKC. Houston will lose, but players
will get you points. Even Lou Dort is playing like shit on both ends. He let Curry torch
him. Going under screens and shit on Curry. I’m like, yeah, okay. Dort is too good of
defender to do stupid stuff like that.
2736797, yeah this is some fugazi shit.|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-09-21 11:05 AM
2736796, I couldn’t imagine attempting to play fantasy this season|
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-09-21 10:52 AM
2736801, Who dropped off them damn onions at my crib?|
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-09-21 01:08 PM
2736802, Boston getting blowed out…embracing that 7 spot|
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-09-21 01:10 PM
2736803, they better hope they dont play the Hornets in the play-in|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-09-21 02:31 PM
cause we will run them off the fucking court. Melo coming for necks.
hell if Harden cant play round 1 I wouldnt be shocked if the Hornets clapped the Nets on some We Believe shit. this team gets hot very easily and they play downhill.
2736806, Lucky for Boston…|
Posted by Dstl1, Sun May-09-21 02:46 PM
and the Lakers…the 7 and 8 teams get two chances to win 1 game. The Lakers end up playing GS and Steph might go goofy on them.
2736819, eh steph can get his. the rest of their team wont score 50 combined|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-09-21 11:07 PM
and they have absolutely nothing for us on defense.
2736818, Phoenix is straight up BBQ chicken. yeah lets get the 7 seed|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-09-21 11:05 PM
2736821, Luka out here trying to nutcheck people now? Cmon breh|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-09-21 11:38 PM
imma need the media to talk about his anger issues
2736827, One of the top pussyfied moves in all sports.|
Posted by Beezo, Mon May-10-21 07:07 AM
>imma need the media to talk about his anger issues
Right, they won’t. The talk will be about how fiery and competitive he is.
2736879, he's definitely on the cusp of diva|
Posted by bearfield, Mon May-10-21 06:09 PM
i don't think he's quite there but he's very close. maybe that's why he and porzingas purportedly don't get along 😄
2736882, oh he's there. he whines as much as Lebron does|
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-10-21 06:50 PM
which is A LOT. add on the techs and now this and he's already the biggest diva in the league
2736883, Lol...he literally said like 3 days ago...|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-10-21 06:55 PM
that he's been complaining way too much and needs to work on it. Then he's out here nut-hunting.
2736878, White boys in the comments calling bball a soft sport lol|
Posted by Amritsar, Mon May-10-21 05:18 PM
2736884, Right, ridiculous|
Posted by Beezo, Mon May-10-21 07:50 PM
2736822, Luka |
Posted by Castro, Sun May-09-21 11:47 PM
2736836, AD played like AD last night. We need more games like that from him...|
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-10-21 09:45 AM
even when LeBron comes back.
2736850, It's going to be a stressful ass postseason.|
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-10-21 12:14 PM
2736876, Shams saying Jaylen Brown has a torn ligament in his left wrist…|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-10-21 05:09 PM
will require surgery. Done for the year. OUCH!
2736880, That's awful. What a terrible season.|
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-10-21 06:33 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence that the teams in the conference finals last year had tough years with injuries, etc.
But yeah - nightmare season. Still, that core is locked up. They should probably change SOMETHING this offseason and not give the front office or Stevens a pass due to injuries.
2736886, Congrats Russell Westbrook|
Posted by Beezo, Mon May-10-21 08:21 PM
182 trip dubs.
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-10-21 08:22 PM
2736888, Incredible accomplishment. |
Posted by Ryan M, Mon May-10-21 08:55 PM
He’s going to demolish that record. It’s insane how until like 6 years ago it was thought no player would ever average a triple double again and he did it 4/5 years.
2736889, 20k points, 8k assists: Bron, Oscar, Glove, Russ|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-10-21 09:05 PM
2736893, Trailblazers scored 50 in the 1sr quarter, lol|
Posted by Dstl1, Mon May-10-21 09:41 PM
2736894, yet the tanking rockets are only down by 10|
Posted by RandomFact, Mon May-10-21 10:02 PM
i love me some dame and cj but those dudes aren't going to win a championship if their backcourt defense continues to be bang average.