East:
Kyrie
Beal
Giannis
KD (captain)
Embiid

West:
Steph
Luka
Bron (captain)
Jokic
Kawhi

Thoughts?

If they ever put a games played requirement in, a few of these guys wouldn’t make it. But as it stands, there’s not much else to argue about based on what guys have done when they’ve played.

but its not like dame wont be an allstar so idc

All star starter never really been about team success. Its about popularity and stats. Lukas numbers are gaudy...especially once you tie in last season(which lets be real, all star starter aint just about what you did this year) him getting voted in as a starter is a no brainer

every since they starting hyping Luka for MVP before the season even started

He got all of the hype this year and then some. And while his numbers are there and Dallas is playing better now, based on the insane hype he has slightly underdelivered.

Meanwhile Dame has the numbers and his team more than maxes out. CJ and Nurkic get hurt, and he somehow keeps them winning more than expected.

fans have no interest in watching a guard that can't shoot in 2021 apparently.

question. if philly had a true top-tier point guard (w/shot) would it be possible to play ben as a hybrid 4/5 with embiid? seems like that could work since one of the two can shoot.

I'd have a point guard, two shooters, Ben and Embiid.

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Yes. Ben's whole strength is his versatility on both ends. He could play any position, really.

Hard to vote him in when he pulled that shit on Houston this year though. He basically sabotaged himself/his team to force a trade, so he doesn’t deserve anything IMO.

It’s safe to say he’s had a bigger impact since he joined, but by default you kinda have to go with the guy who has been there the whole season

If so, what is there to debate?

There's more room to debate with the reserves IMO since that is based mainly on who the All Star coaches pick, which more than likely will result in snubs.

The only interesting aspect to the named teams is that LeBron was pretty vocal is not wanting to play in the All Star game, yet he's the captain of the West team. I have to think he's less incline to wanting to play with AD having to sit for the regular season.

Voted in Starters and selections....

But how does Booker not get in? Anthony Davis hasn’t played well this season
and is out injured and Rudy Gobert is good, but Booker has been excellent

I imagine Booker will be called upon as a replacement for AD.

Booker is going to get in. AD is out and injured, and his team is top 2 in the West/they won a damn chip last year. It's a gesture if nothing else. Booker was honestly the move over CP3 but Booker's going to be an all star, obviously.

That's no longer the case. But he sits in 7th (11 behind first) and everyone in front of him is an all star - Bron, Giannis, Zach, Jokic, Beal, Curry. For what it's worth, the next 5 after him are also all stars - Doncic, Zion, Jaylen Brown, Dame, Randle.

Not saying it's the right call - but I get it at least.

on a bad team

Vucevic is 24/11

Sabonis is 21/11

Right call. Sabonis is avg 2 more assists than Vucevic.

Vucevic is slightly better....so no snub either way.

Plus Vucevic is doing it playing with less talented players.

>Vucevic is 24/11
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>Sabonis is 21/11
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>Right call. Sabonis is avg 2 more assists than Vucevic.
>
>Vucevic is slightly better....so no snub either way.
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>Plus Vucevic is doing it playing with less talented players.

Right. It does.

Vucevic is seeing double teams and zone walls, but still
getting numbers.

Sabonis has Brogdon,lamb, turner. Other players who can score, preventing double teams.

That matters to.

Indiana an still win without Sabonis.

>Right. It does.
>
>Vucevic is seeing double teams and zone walls, but still
>getting numbers.
>
>Sabonis has Brogdon,lamb, turner. Other players who can
>score, preventing double teams.
>
>That matters to.
>
>Indiana an still win without Sabonis.

What pleas?

Vucevic lost Johnathan Isaac, Aaron Gordon, Fultz,
and Cole Anthony has been out for the past two weeks.

Fournier just got back.

His numbers are just more impressive considering the circumstances.

Sabonis wasnt snubbed.

The idea that "teams record used to matter" is revisionist. Players from teams with lousy records have always been all-star reserves. Just looking at games from the '80s, players like Michael Ray Richardson, Bernard King, Reggie Theus, Larry Nance, Norm Nixon, and Marques Johnson all got named to all-stars teams during years when their teams weren't very good at all.

People seem to gloss over this.

Like, it seems even the worst franchises have an all star, at worst, every 4 years or so.

but a first time guy off a losing team didn't happen before Tre Young last year but that was the fan vote

Especially when you have a voting systems. It matters to some more than others. Especially when you are talking about perennial all star types. Its probably a little more rare for a player to make his first all star game on a suck squad or have multiple all stars on a suck squad.

It just feels like he would have been picked up as a reserve at sometime over his career.

in terms of top tier Western Conference point guards that were active while Conley was in his prime in Memphis: Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, and Tony Parker.

Is that list accurate? I have a feeling Curry's prime started after Conley was in his prime in Memphis, but I'm too lazy to check.

Assuming that list is accurate, how many folks on that list are Conley better than? In addition, wasn't Conley also hurt a ton while he was in Memphis? That had to hurt his chances of being an All-Star.

>in terms of top tier Western Conference point guards that
>were active while Conley was in his prime in Memphis: Chris
>Paul, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, Steph Curry, Damian
>Lillard, and Tony Parker.

I'd take Conley over Williams but I don't think the gap between them is that big. I just checked and Williams was a 3 time all star.

>Assuming that list is accurate, how many folks on that list
>are Conley better than? In addition, wasn't Conley also hurt a
>ton while he was in Memphis? That had to hurt his chances of
>being an All-Star.

According to wiki, he only missed 36 games in his 12 years in Memphis.

That list of guys is definitely tough to break through but I'm still surprised that he hasn't at least made one all star team.

once Marc Gasol got the nod. the other time MEmphis sucked. That coupled with all the great guards in the West (especially PGs) I can't say he was ever "deserving". Solid career though probably one of the best to never make it.

> I'd take Conley over Williams but I don't think the gap
>between them is that big. I just checked and Williams was a 3
>time all star.

you must be young, that was during the time when Deron BETTER was actually a conversation and that was in comparison to CP3 who was being hailed as the point-god of the entire leage

good times though.

There was a time when Williams was considered the best
PG in the league.

Conley was never at that point.

>in terms of top tier Western Conference point guards that
>were active while Conley was in his prime in Memphis: Chris
>Paul, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, Steph Curry, Damian
>Lillard, and Tony Parker.
>
>Is that list accurate? I have a feeling Curry's prime started
>after Conley was in his prime in Memphis, but I'm too lazy to
>check.
>
>Assuming that list is accurate, how many folks on that list
>are Conley better than? In addition, wasn't Conley also hurt a
>ton while he was in Memphis? That had to hurt his chances of
>being an All-Star.

I know Booker deserves it more but he’ll get one in the future

Not even the 3rd best player on his team.

Good player. That’s it. These sympathy selections need to stop.

If not, Book has a good shot at it imo.

>If not, Book has a good shot at it imo.
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