https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30515643/sources-cleveland-drop-indians-nickname-105-years

it probably won't but... lowkey? Washington Football Team is actually sticking, and the uniforms look proper.

It’s classic. Plus they do that in soccer. They don’t have official nicknames, just club names like Manchester City Football Team.

Something to do with the Coast Guard?

I don't know much about Cleveland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Memorial_Bridge

One of the main bridges that goes over the Cuyahoga River (that divides East and West sides of the city).

Obscure (to most people) which is one reason I like the name choice

should have went back to the Spiders

No contrived animal names (wouldn't have liked the Spiders revival, because the only Spider I like is Spider-Man).

No contrived links to the Rock Hall.
Same colors, same uniform, and they basically just changed half of the actual name, so the name logo looks similar too.

The Cavs had "Defend The Land" going on for a bit, this fits in with that.

Wahoo is gone, at long last.

I always wondered why they didn't get the same scrutiny as Cleveland and Washington.

>I always wondered why they didn't get the same scrutiny as
>Cleveland and Washington

Pretty easy to see. The logo is classier than Chief Wahoo and the name isn’t a slur like Washington’s. I see it changing in like 10 years, but I always knew these would be the first 2 dominoes to fall.

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>The logo is classier

>>The logo is classier
>

I mean relatively speaking, obviously. Wahoo is much more of a caricature.

the blackhawks logo carries a touch of pride and distinction. almost elegance even.

a smiling red pac man with a feather can GTFOH

Or logos based on their ethnic background .

But I’m not white either so I view it differently


>the blackhawks logo carries a touch of pride and distinction.
> almost elegance even.
>
>a smiling red pac man with a feather can GTFOH

Black Hawk was a real person, not a tribe, and a ton of stuff in Illinois and Iowa is named after him (schools, bridges, etc). the Iowa Hawkeyes got their name from the same dude, even tho their logo is a bird.

if the logo is meant to be dignified portrature of one particular guy, as opposed to a generalization of a group of people, it just strikes me as different. and tbh ive never heard people raise the issue the way it was raised for Indians/Redskins/Braves/etc

the C and Cleveland typeface is great. Everything else is terrible. Wish they did one of the faces from the statues as the mascot/main logo. Go old school and put a baseball bat in his hand so that it has that old vintage feel. The G with the baseball is so bad. Theres no real cohesiveness, and it looks like an minor league team

had a local design shop that did it a year ago.

https://gvartwork.com/collections/cleveland-guardian-collection

They could have reached out to them.

But then I read more about the cultural significance of the 'quirks' of the script and letter 'C'. (https://news.sportslogos.net/2021/07/23/stand-guard-cleveland-guardians-announced-as-new-name-for-indians/baseball/) After reading the page, the elements and the choices make a lot more sense.

That being said, the explanation of the logo with the baseball is a deep yoga stretch to me.

But all in all, I think this is a branding that is reflective of the city of Cleveland which was the way to go. It's a way to tie the team into the fabric of the city. Creating some intentional nods to the culture of the city had to be a priority. Reestablishing connection to the culture of the city makes the change more of a transition into something familiar rather than starting a history from ground zero.

It's pretty bad IMO


Even forgiving the ties to local architecture, it just doesn't look Greek/Deco to me, it looks like the kind of logo you could comfortably slap onto an F-250 next to some gun propaganda


But it's a start, I guess





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