>And he made more first all defensive teams.

Jordan made nine first All-Defense teams. Pippen made eight. And Jordan won a DPOY, which Pippen never did. And Jordan won the steals title three times to Pippen's one.

I'm not arguing Pippen *isn't* the better defender, because he was a more versatile defender. I'm arguing that he wasn't *clearly* the better defender in the same way that Davis is *clearly* a better defender than Bron.