>That's one of those organizations that is clearly beastly at
>finding ways to maximize the talent of young players. If
>Duncan ends up in, say, Sacramento, does he become remotely
>the same player?

but its pretty apparent that he came in as a full grown adult with a floor above sea level. raising that ceiling to a cold-blooded Klay was definitely all Miami.

>That said, yes, Cleveland is stupid and has been stupid for
>some time. Between Cleveland's front office and the massive
>culture change between dealing with non-five-star college kids
>and millionaires who've been stars their entire lives, Beilein
>honestly probably should've known better.

well, yeah. and that hurts to admit. but when they are telling you all the right things, and you're the most ethical guy in a dirty game...i imagine they pushed all the right buttons in the right sequence.

although i would posit that those kids were stars *as kids*. there are no stars when your team is that putrid.