Mostly JV teams until Sept 26th when the SEC kicks off.

So far everyone looking rusty as hell.

B1G clusterfuck still not resolved but rumors swirling today that a mid-October start is on the table.

PAC 12...not even sure that conference still exists.

The Pac 12 has been doing its thing and is working to partner with a company for testing. I think they stay on schedule for a Spring start but they could start sooner and I hope they do. I hope the Big Ten, Pac 12, and MWC stick together and all start together.

I honestly think Trump and other Big Ten Star Governors are only doing this because the Big Ten has a new commissioner and he is also black so they are trying to bully him. If he were a white man I don’t think you see so much pressure.

>. I think they stay on schedule for
>a Spring start

CFB is looking more like my daughters preschool with independent and adjacent play than an actual season right now.

Big Ten got caught up in politics and is starting to crack under the pressure. It sucks but it isn’t unexpected due to where these schools are located and the fact that these coaches keep going against their own conference decision and aren’t facing any consequences for doing so is a bad look.

Trump is just pushing the big ten around right now for his own political reasons and it allows him to undermine a black man in power, so it is a double win for him.

The ACC and Big 12 are already postponing games this weekend and the season is just starting. We will see if these conferences are even still playing games once October comes around.

or had much of an impact one way or the other.

the fact that coaches are irked about what's going on is the least of B1G's legal and PR problems right now. and many of these coaches have options outside of the conference so it's not like they're going to be held hostage for fear of repercussions.

looks to me like the other conferences are full go. when the B1G suddenly cancelled a month ago I would say the possibility of them getting bailed out by other conferences following suit was a much much stronger possibility than it is today.

VaTech/Virginia already postponed their game.

TCU and Baylor postponed their games today. Iowa State probably wishes it had postponed its game.

It is hard enough during a regular season to make up postponed games so it will be interesting to see how these conferences play a balanced season and make up multiple postponed games.

Playing football during Covid and then going into flu season is going to be very tough to manage. These college kids aren’t going to just sit in their dorms in between games and will be hanging out with non football players and going to parties so I expect CFB to mirror MLB but be even worse when it comes to Covid breakout clusters.

Hopefully no kid gets really sick or dies from playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29897305/sources-big-ten-announce-october-return

https://twitter.com/Adampasick/status/1306237470409986049
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On the day the Big 10 bows to pressure and reinstates its college football season, Ohio State researchers find that 15% of athletes who get Covid-19 have symptoms of myocarditis.

https://t.co/ZcybbpffXP
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the talking heads on espn were all over this myocarditis issue when it was just a rumor that the pac 12 canceled because of early warning signs about this.

now we have real data coming out and its pretty bad. but those same talking heads have pretty much ignored or just quickly gloss over the issue and now theyre all celebrating the return of big 10 football. desmond howard was basically just parroting big 10 pr talking points when he was mr athlete health a few weeks ago.

especially when you got players like the ga st qb sitting out from covid related myocarditis
https://twitter.com/cbs46/status/1296503519135006721

and the dude from cal u pa who died from blood clots after testing positive for covid
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1305977790185963521

and you have sports being played literally everywhere else so all the way down to the little league level so I'm not sure why the parents of B1G players would be the lone exception here

football culture is such that dads celebrate their 16-year-old sons playing through concussions and broken bones...a "fake flu" according to their supreme leader will not cause any concern

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they KNOW their kids not playing will hurt their pro potential
but their kids MIGHT get sick

a lot of folks aren't worried about a "might"
and if they do, they think their kid is built different

>they KNOW their kids not playing will hurt their pro
>potential
>but their kids MIGHT get sick

nor does that reasoning account for the parents signing off on their kids playing JV junior high ball

these folks think their kids are gods gift to football.

this transcends potential NFL money, sports or the big 10.

you're a mom/dad that's been taking your kid to piano lessons for the past 15 years...and then that piano recital gets cancelled. they're gonna bug out just the same.

Can’t make varsity of JV doesn’t play, can’t get a scholarship offer if varsity high school doesn’t play, can’t make it to the NFL if CFB doesn’t play.

My sister in law was upset because her sons Little League was going to cancel and this hurt his chances to make the some sort of traveling all star team and that would hurt his chances to get into a good high school baseball program or IMG Sports Academy. He is 10 years old!! These sports parents are delusional and only get more delusional as these kids get older.

It’s about the emotional investment parents have in their child’s happiness, pursuits, successes, etc.

Which ya know, isn’t *always* such a bad thing.

I put more blame on the coaches for fueling the flames of outrage by parents and using they outrage to put pressure on Big 10 University Presidents and ADs.

Most parents want their kids to play because they don’t believe Covid is a real threat to their kids, they believe this will hurt their children’s chances to go pro and they just want to watch football.

Meanwhile Ryan Day says the same thing and silence from Desmond Howard, Nicole Auerbach, Pat Forde and others.

Desmond Howard can't say Nebraska needs to be kicked out of the Big Ten for wanting to try and play observing safe protocols and then make social media posts about being excited for Notre Dame football on Saturday.

Does that dumbshit know that the UNMC is just down the road and is one of the premier medical facilities in a pandemic? They were the national destination for Ebola patients and a big part of the rapid testing that allowed the Big Ten to try and play.

Kevin Warren and the rest of the Presidents could have avoided this whole thing by being transparent and open in communication, instead they operated in a silo and didn't want to divulege their metrics they use.

Pac-12 was open and trasparent and nobody had an issue with it.

Hypocritical Desmond can take his 1/2 a trophy and kick rocks.

I have zero enthusiasm for college football this year . Everything is just so depressing

I just hope all the athletes make it through the season without getting COVID.


>Mostly JV teams until Sept 26th when the SEC kicks off.
>
>So far everyone looking rusty as hell.
>
>B1G clusterfuck still not resolved but rumors swirling today
>that a mid-October start is on the table.
>
>PAC 12...not even sure that conference still exists.

>I have zero enthusiasm for college football this year .
>Everything is just so depressing

but the opening games have passed and I haven't even box score bobby'd. the enthusiasm for college football right now is exactly depressing.

>the enthusiasm for college football right now is
>exactly depressing.

I will probably watch Cal games when they get started back up.

Other than that, the start of the season just feels like a bunch of bad bowl game matchups that no one really wants to watch.

here’s the thing tho.. SEC says you don’t have to test a player who was positive for 90 days.

So I think these teams are actually encouraging infections just to get that 90 day window.

or they just lying.

Just heard UNC had to cancel another game because Charlotte’s OL has covid and is contact tracing. Charlotte just played App State last week.

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/ducks/pac-12-football-aiming-season-start-halloween

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First week is trash. I’ll start a week later.

Brad and Gary carried water for that mf all day on the mic.

I knew LSU was going to crash back to reality but not this quickly and not this hard

Meanwhile I saw enough of KJ Costello last year to know he's a good qb. Pretty crazy how well he already runs that Leach offense though

play Leach straight-up with a secondary that was missing 3 of their top 4 corners from last year

although the "does this mean the Pac 12 > SEC" and "now that Leach has SEC talent..." takes were entertaining for a week

Did they think they were down by 7 or less? Some of these college coaches just make absolutely baffling decisions.

that defense is still trash but now paying this overhyped bum 2 mil per year

I still think he can land a big time gig despite it not working at texas

I wonder if mich would be interested and if herman would be interested in them?

idk how you succeed at texas tho tbh.

even oklahoma in that conference, their ceiling is getting smacked around in the playoffs because they're finally playing teams that are big and fast, instead of just fast.

>idk how you succeed at texas tho tbh.
>
>even oklahoma in that conference, their ceiling is getting
>smacked around in the playoffs because they're finally playing
>teams that are big and fast, instead of just fast.

Texas has the third-most NFL players by state.

He's probably gotta take a step down and take on a job at a mid-tier Power 5 school like Colorado or Northwestern before one of the Blue Bloods take a flyer on him.

But I wonder how much of his lack of success is on him or just the culture at Texas? Take out the Mack Brown and Darrel Royal years
and their performance is disappointing. Nothing on the field shows that UT's culture elevates the play of the talent or the coaching.

They should be a perennial Top 10-12 team but rarely are.

I haven't watched Texas much since Herrman's been there but I haven't seen him work any miracles given the talent he has. But then again, most coaches there don't.

It might end up being the best for him to get away from Texas' dysfunction.

>But I wonder how much of his lack of success is on him or just
>the culture at Texas?

and he went out and got a legit DC in chris ash and their defense still stinks. so im not sure what the answer is there.

>But I wonder how much of his lack of success is on him or just
>the culture at Texas? Take out the Mack Brown and Darrel Royal
>years
>and their performance is disappointing. Nothing on the field
>shows that UT's culture elevates the play of the talent or the
>coaching.

maybe back in the day, but college football is too competitive now. USC and Michigan have 15 national championships between them; that don't mean anything but another fancy banner for Oregon and Wisconsin to dance in front of when they win.

if Nick Saban walks out that door and bama doesn't hire the right coach, they will atrophy and start getting their own asses kicked in the SEC despite two decades of culture.

Herman was supposed to succeed "on-paper", and he didn't. doesn't mean he can't be a good coach somewhere else or Texas can't do better.

>
>Herman was supposed to succeed "on-paper", and he didn't.
>doesn't mean he can't be a good coach somewhere else or Texas
>can't do better.

to know if this is the area in which herman has failed.

but I'd have to imagine he would've picked up a few more wins with okudah, dobbins and garrett wilson on his roster.

losing those players to out of state schools would've been unheard of in the mack brown era.

but national recruiting has changed quite a bit over the last 15 years so maybe this is just something that a school like texas is going to have to live with and overcome.

The difference in talent among the top teams is very slight. It's coaching, especially at the mid-tier schools, that makes all the difference in performance.

I was referring more to UT poorly evaluating its culture and the effect of that culture on the performance of the team.

Yes, they spend an ungodly amount of money at football, but I think their national image is outsized given the history of the program. That's all I was trying to get across.

I think the jury is still out on Herrman. He's doing better than Strong but 'on paper' the team was supposed to 'be back' by now. Granted, this is his first Power 5 job and he's a young coach so he's going to have gaffes. I think at most schools he'd be fine. But, UT thinks its more than what it is. If he's let go, he'd probably get another shot at a top job if he rebounds first at another school. ala Lane Kiffin

I'm probably coming off as harsh on both Herrman and UT. I lived in Austin and reading and seeing their entitlement over the years has soured me. The way that UT ran off Strong didn't sit right for me. Not so much because they decided to move on from Charlie (he was a really good man and you could tell the players loved him. He simply didn't win enough by the end.) But, and I know I'm being racial here, but Hermman just seems like he's a good 'ol boys wet dream. He's brash and outspoken and he's tough on his players. If he had a more mild mannered personality I'd probably be alright with him. i admit that that bias clouds my idea of him.

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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1312493931020447744

dumb and dumber

I’ve seen enough of them in the playoff. Bring in somebody who might actually win a game.

murked this year regardless.

no big 12 and no pac 12 is going to leave very slim pickings.

I don't see a 2nd big 10 team...especially with PSU's best player sitting out.

so it will be the usual push to make it a sec invitational tournament w/perhaps a slight chance they throw the group of 5 a bone this year and let a BYU or cincy in the mix to serve as a default bye game for the 1 seed (which of course will not be OSU)

I'm looking forward to the Bama/UGA/UF round robin

>I'm looking forward to the Bama/UGA/UF round robin

Secondary is pretty green to be fair, but the disorganisation is also concerning

you can get the haircut and be light skinned but that don’t make you Mahomes lmao

Nah you gotta fire this mf

and then offering 80 mil to Urban haha

it’d be cool to get a win, though.

Riley is going to get scorched for these last 6 or so minutes

OU had a 3 and out with a 7pt lead and threw a pass on 3rd down. Left Texas like 2:10 with no time outs instead of 1 min left

Then OU pass rush is dead rn

by fumbling their opening 2nd half possession after 45 seconds

my UT +12.5 is looking real shaky right now

because playing quarterback during the coaching change was like being stuck in a Butch Jones-designed "Saw" room. he bizarrely regressed in 2019 -- like throwing absolute funballs every other play -- but at this point, inconsistency is just his marker. especially with accuracy.

I don't really harp on it though, because SEC fans hate all their own quarterbacks. and individually critiquing guys too hard this season is sad -- no spring practice, half of them were in and out of quarantine so no time to develop, and the whole stress of a pandemic within their personal circles.

program looking much improved though

they were the worst defense in the conference last season and already are vastly improved

this is actually quite crazy, not that beating Ole Miss is impossible but if you watched Arkansas the last two years, they certainly looked like it was impossible for *them*

Odom and that SEC-worst defense from LY held Lane to 4.85 YPP and a 25% 3rd down conversion rate.

meanwhile, Chad Morris is making Auburn's offense worse in every way...

Return of the Mack. We outchea

I expect them to somehow blow it because Georgia. But I am impressed,

Kirby has completely imprinted his style on that side of the ball with waves of front seven wreckers and a secondary that contests everything. they're smart, too, and contain explosives while still mixing up different pressure looks.

their quarterback...is OK. he can beat all the mid-tier SEC teams but he doesn't have any field stretching ability and eats off play-action, in-between the hashes and dump-offs. their backs get a lot of YAC but their receivers are pretty average outside that freshman TE, who looks like another Kyle Pitts.

I don't trust Kirby to make the best in-game calls, though. the two times he went for it on fourth down in the first half were not very good -- the first time, they were on their side of the 50 and Tennessee had gained like 20 total yards. the goal-line call was fine, but the wrong running back and the wrong play.

but they're not beating bama with stetson at qb

>but they're not beating bama with stetson at qb

Stetson looked like a guy who was probably 4th string for a reason

and Saban just destroyed Smart's defense

>Stetson looked like a guy who was probably 4th string for a
>reason
>
>and Saban just destroyed Smart's defense

I made that amendment while watching bama's D. And they showed again last night that they're really a step down from what we're used to.I've never seen them so soft up the middle.

But ya, you just can't win in 2020 with Stetson as your quarterback. This isn't the era for a feel good story quarterback.

I'm thinking the SEC would rather have UF make it to the sec champ game if they're hoping to get a 2nd team in the playoffs.

and SEC refs looked at all that on replay and said fuck it, they were victory formation so no fumble

wants full attendance for gator home games

what an impossibly assholish comment on so many different levels

https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1316113061477056518?s=20

but I think it's appropriate that reality smacked Mullen in the face right after he doubled down on a packed stadium this week

We gonna be the ones to dethrone Clemson like we should’ve with Marquise and dumbass Fedora

they beat a horrible FSU team and a 1-3 Louisville team. and they lost 7 games last year, so there's no immediate precedent.

Venables still the best DC in the nation. Clemson is eating their souls on defense; should be interesting when they play UNC's offense.

the bigger question is why were they only 14 point dogs? that's that good hype.

there was nothing to suggest that they've somehow equated the talent advantage with bama and king isn't nearly a good enough passer to threaten clemson in a significant way.

And kiffin is a monster with the calls.

revolutionizing the SEC

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-gators-covid-19-cases/34362886

No surprise here, it was only a matter of time before one of the big SEC games got rescheduled.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30115340/saturday-game-lsu-tigers-florida-gators-postponed

Saturday's game between No. 10 Florida and LSU at "The Swamp" has been postponed after the Gators saw a surge in positive COVID-19 tests this week, it was announced Wednesday.

The game has tentatively been rescheduled for the SEC's built-in bye week on Dec. 12, which is the week before the SEC championship.

The SEC said on Twitter that the game was postponed after "positive tests & subsequent quarantine of individuals with the Florida FB program."

Florida has 18 positives among scholarship players and three walk-ons, athletic director Scott Stricklin said Wednesday. He said the players and staff members who tested positive are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. Stricklin said he did not have an exact number of players who are now under contact-trace quarantine, but when adding in those with the positive cases and non-COVID related injured players, Florida had less than 50 scholarship players available.
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The SEC's Return to Activity and Medical Guidance Task Force stipulates that a team must have at least 53 scholarship players available to play a game, including seven offensive linemen (with one center), four defensive linemen and one quarterback.

"It can sneak up you in a hurry," Stricklin said. "The key thing is you've got to have the ability to push the brake when things start to occur like what we're seeing right now. You've got to be willing to hit pause occasionally. The SEC schedule was set up with an event like this in mind. As much as we want to give our kids the opportunity to compete, we understand this isn't a normal year and we're going to have the ability to adapt to unusual circumstances such as this."

Florida shut down its football program on Tuesday after a number of tests came back positive.

Stricklin said there is suspicion that the trip to play Texas A&M in College Station, Texas, this past weekend is the root of the outbreak. However, a couple of UF players said they had allergy-type symptoms before leaving for the game and didn't report it to UF officials. Stricklin said he learned early Monday that players were reporting symptoms, and the standard Sunday testing revealed multiple positives. That is when Florida started doing daily testing, and the numbers have increased since then. Stricklin said the team would continue doing daily testing until they have the spread under control.

Mullen on Wednesday backtracked on a statement made Saturday in which he said he would like to see 100% capacity at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, citing a recent decision by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to lift COVID-19 restrictions that had limited the size of public gatherings.

This is the second SEC game this week that has been postponed, joining Missouri-Vanderbilt.

Because Florida has so many players who are positive and in quarantine, next week's game against Missouri could also potentially be in jeopardy. CDC guidelines say those with positive tests must isolate for 10 days, while contact tracing requires a 14-day quarantine. Stricklin said it was too early to know whether the Missouri game would have to be postponed as well.

"Well, it's hard to speculate right now," Stricklin said. "Obviously we'll be in communication with the Southeastern Conference and probably get Missouri, obviously as our next opponent, to kind of keep them abreast of what we're seeing, and we'll continue as I said our regular testing protocol for those who aren't in quarantine, and hopefully we don't have any more positives and we're able to get on the other side of this and then we can get everyone back in a situation where you can go compete again."

ESPN's Andrea Adelson and Mark Schlabach contributed to this report.

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1316496683191037953?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Should have been playing more cover zero with that face mask, can’t even take it off to eat grits.

major props to UGA for shutting him down

today was insanely bad. I had a Butch/Dooley flashback just from box score Bobbying. I'm going with this season doesn't count.

At its finest today.

you can't make this up

https://twitter.com/barreljumpist/status/1316116863961636864?s=10

gat damn

Lmao.. this is some sick shit

I really hope UF allows 90,000 fans to attend the rest of their home games. I just really want to see this happen.

the schadenfreude is not worth another multiplier of people getting sick, even in Florida

that said, Mullen is the perfect symbol for Florida response to covid, and really for the United States

The Villages and MAGA Florida deserve them.

>The Villages and MAGA Florida deserve them.

distance and generally take the virus serious.

Which will in most cases consist of plenty of people who have behaved responsibly, essential workers, etc.

I had nothing to do with it.

This one is especially shameful
We just didn’t come out ready to play

and havent taken the next step which everyone had predicted...perhaps it was mostly false hope as people are desperate for clemson to get some competition within the conference.

Reminds me of my Pitt Panthers.

No matter how good they start out I know they will disappoint me and they will always lose to Miami.

but OSU D looks like it's taken a big step down as well

nebraska was giving OSU all they could handle out the gate

The fumble return and penalties completely took them out of it. Not they could win, but could have not been a blowout.

I hated the targeting penalties too, just too stiff for what they were.

>I hated the targeting penalties too, just too stiff for what
>they were.

First half,etc

That was a huge take considering the circumstances. Once the excitement and everything settled, reality settled in. There are cats on chat boards saying Rutgers are going to win the big ten.

>There
>are cats on chat boards saying Rutgers are going to win the
>big ten.
>
>

Illinois is a walking piece of crap. Freaking line should have been +35 for that bum ass squad. People thought Illinois was going to cover that +20 line and faded Wisconsin. That shit was basically free money.

Draft kings took that game down after the first quarter...it was clear as day that Illinois is trash.

OSU, Notre Dame do your thang!

Fock Michigan.

good thing the clay travis cult got their upgrade in pruitt instead

but fuck Schiano and Rutgers is a better fit for him

they just lost to Illinois BTW, although they could make it a banner year with Michigan and Penn State looking like winnable games for everybody in the Big 11

Finally sitting down and watching a game in a year+... gotdamn, the half time itself is an eternity. And the commercials.

hate to see it. Dude is electric
I’d still love him on the titans even if it took a 1st

saban at halftime interview blaming him for taking the kickoff out of the end zone was a weird moment

Cases are surging in Big Ten country, weather is getting cold. Halloween (parties on and off campus) and Thanksgiving coming up, might be grand opening and grand closing for some programs.

Not that I'm surprised, our media representation has been bullshit since at least the end of the Pelini era, if not Solich. But it would seem the majority of Husker fans who care enough to be on a forum dedicated to them believe this is a conspiracy by the Wisconsin athletic department to avoid a game with a Big Ten West rival and reduce our strength of schedule for bowl opportunities.


Gotta love it.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/

> believe this is a
>conspiracy by the Wisconsin athletic department to avoid a
>game with a Big Ten West rival and reduce our strength of
>schedule for bowl opportunities.

this one puts the election conspiracy theory to shame

really one and the same. Now they get to wear two different types of red hats. I’m actually surprised we haven’t seen a Nebraska Cornhusker and MAGA hat combination, like a MAGAN hat that Nebraska fans can wear to all occasions, football stadiums or down at the trump rally in Omaha.

It is also funny that Nebraska fans think this is a conspiracy. I don’t think Wisconsin was too worried about Nebraska this season.

Nebraska’s Adidas line is pretty sleek and the hat matches perfectly. Now that Husker gear is in season it’s actually a lot more common to see young people in MAGA hats than it has been since he first won the election. Saw a bunch as I got out of work last night from the rally.

In a way, it’s nice to know right away, right?

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

just call him DJ...shit is painful to listen to.

Rona is definitely going to win today. Clemson didn’t respect Rona and it is going to make Clemson pay.

they said 19k but im not buying that

Michigan went in as -21 favorites against Michigan St. Line made zero sense. Minnesota is trash, which means Michigan isn’t all that good so the win was a mirage. But since Minnesota was overrated the win against them overrated Michigan.

Kansas St was given +6.5 against W virgina..Since Kansas St is undefeated, that line looked like a joke. So of course people jumped on it thinking it was an easy win....Nope. It was a trap to get you to bet on KSU. West Virginia is beating the shit out of them.

Next week’s Clemson/Notre Dame line is going to be really interesting...watch they make Clemson the underdog and everyone is going to jump on Notre Dame. They’ll probably make Clemson +4.5 dog if they lose this game against BC.....

Clemson is missing 4 players....that’s why they are losing ...but they are hands down still the best team In the country, and I’m a Notre Dame fan.

Congrats

this has gotta be a wrap for harbaugh

they are ranked dead last in the country and are allowing 9.5 yards per PLAY after Lil Tagovailoa carved them up

mostly as an indictment on msu and where they're at as a program. and the opportunity for harbaugh to kick them while they're down.

i think this has to be the worst loss of his tenure.

fock

Illinois is trash ..and those ugly ass uniforms..makes me mad as an Illinoisian
Sota is trash
Purdue barely beat a trash ass Illinois team
Indiana overrated win against Penn State.

Hmmm.

I know they have some injuries but shit, he isn’t even trying to go downfield.

I hate QB’s like this.. did he transfer from Iowa? Lmao.

>I hate QB’s like this.. did he transfer from Iowa? Lmao.

he's more like a really shitty version of JT Barrett.

He played a bit better in the second half but he’s no threat as a running QB. They need to throw that playbook in the trash.

Mofos out there playing baseball.

Get these bum ass lions our of here!

taking his act to the SEC was not a good career move

"well, he'll also be playing against SEC defenses"

funny, he's been shut out twice already and this year's bama defense is not even close to being one of their better ones

UVA just did whatever they wanted all night and their ball carriers finished the fuck out of every play

is there any specific reason why he stayed this long? rare to find such an elite talent at RB stay thru his senior year. impressive.

Still thought he would be top 15 if he declared but maybe he got some info that said otherwise.

that is. bad.

My Devils are lookin solid in LA

happy to take my L on that one. he's been terrific. hope they finish the deal in the 2nd half.

sc didnt deserve that one

to be honest, ASU got extremely lucky in the first half with those 2 redzone turnovers. I was really impressed with the ASU run game but the receivers just could not get open. pretty much impossible to hold a two score lead in the 4th when you are 3 and outing and not changing field position.

but ASU still needed to make just... ONE PLAY... had so many chances to make that one play and just never did. good learning experience i guess (they lost a few games like this last year too)

too bad nobody posts in this thread anymore otherwise id expect a lot of apologies and pats on the back!

but ya that dude looks so dead inside that i dont even know if he's emotionally strong enough to return the nfl. idiot jet fans want him and I think that could make for a very fun marriage.

and i have to be nice to mich for their election contributions

Meanwhile Ohio slips further and further into deplorable territory.

Having family in Ohio (Huron), that hurts my soul but at least my family voted for Biden

>Meanwhile Ohio slips further and further into deplorable
>territory.

>and i have to be nice to mich for their election
>contributions

lack of development. Six years in and this team can’t win big games, and at this point isn’t even competitive.

I don’t even know what coach we could get. Doesn’t matter, he’s done.

by me

kirby is playing bama football from 8-10 years ago. that don't fly now.

and even if he wasn't stupid enough to let fields walk...I have zero confidence that kirby would've put him in position to maximize his talents.

it's hard to believe the Fields couldn't beat out Fromm for the position. it was more likely the he didn't fit with the conservative ball that Kirby wants to play.

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that's serious

>that's serious

good for them. Big 10 is wild this year. Indiana and Northwestern.

This is a pimp walk for OSU.

Notre Dame just needs to get that W tonight. Clemson’s defense is suspect as hell.

Golden Domers let’s roll.

to storm the field.

fucking embarrassing.

0 sacks. Tigers couldn’t do shit with him.

That offense line handled those dudes.

????

Notre Dame has the better defense, and I knew it was going to come down to who could get a stop.

ND’s oline can block its ass off, and the defense rushed to get pressure on the QB, but the oline picked it up. ....so Clemson was fucked, because the secondary was in man to man.

no mask..

guess the military got the vaccine already

I tried to find photos and they said it was postponed.

I was wondering why that stadium was jam packed with not one mask.

I'll bet Kendal Briles gets a shot also in the future.

If it's a school in a MAGA state.....If I'm Kansas football I am surely thinking about it.

Missouri and Arkansas just hired new coaches.

along with multiple players and staff. ASU/Cal game has been cancelled.

Covid cases are rising everywhere right now and it will get worse as the weather gets colder and with the holidays coming up and people going home to family.

not sure if the players will be returning home for the holidays though?

campuses should be emptier at least.

We are playing ucla now on Sunday at 9am!

Lol this shit is too funny. Now I will get to see what a game looks like between two teams that haven’t prepared for each other.

>We are playing ucla now on Sunday at 9am!

but given the 9am start and all the other bizarre factors of this game...i guess that's what you get.

I’m a little surprised but not shocked. This whole season is just one big mulligan so I am not too invested in Cal or CFB this season at all.

my goodness

crazy how McSorley was a recent apex

also, seeing my own team's fortunes, if you have one bad recruiting cycle at quarterback, you're screwed

>also, seeing my own team's fortunes, if you have one bad recruiting cycle at quarterback, >you're screwed

shit is real out there

he's another one of these coaches who's still playing the game like it's the year 2011

Considered a second rounder, stock has went up. Late first rounder now.

He is out there looking like Aaron Rodgers....my god.

Welcome to Sunday afternoon, bro! I would love for it to be in a bears uniform.

Just give the big ten to OSU.

Shit is ridiculous.

OSU could lose 2 games and still win the big ten ...

And ranked in the top ten while Michigan, MSU, Nebraska and Pennsylvania State are all unranked. It is truly post apocalyptic times in the Big Ten.

and NW might be #3.

You’re right, Wisconsin is 2. I think Indiana is better than Northwestern

Arizona State had so many just-make-one-more-play-to-end-it's and couldnt deliver. U of A drops an interception in the red zone.

doubt USC cares. 2-0. they need to lose soon

He isn’t getting the recruits. No one wants to play in Michigan anymore. Most top players don’t want to play in the big 10, unless it’s OSU or PSU.

I don’t think it’s all on Harbaugh, but he is in way over his head. He is not attractive as college coach.

1 yard of offense in the 1st quarter??

Day is recruiting circles around Harbaugh, and the guys he does get do not develop like they would at elite programs

if Harbaugh doesn't work at Michigan, they need to scrap that bizarre "Michigan Men Only" modus operandi -- he was the perfect example and still failed (for now)

Yeah, that Michigan Men shit is dead!

Agreed.

before he annoys the fuck out of everyone and is asked to leave.

and id be worried he just doesnt have it emotionally anymore. he looks depressed out of his mind.

He knows the NFL.

College is more than just X and Os. You gotta get the talent through recruiting ...and their talent level is football championship level.

Liberty would beat the shit out of them...

But you guys are right he might be checked out mentally. ....

and he will wear out his welcome again because his personality isn't fixable...so the opportunity for reward just doesnt seem that high.

he just can’t coach up this talent.

Even when they were clearly better than OSU they lost.

I’ve rarely seen a Michigan offense that goes downfield. Its boring football.

not even close. especially at the offensive skill positions.

and he hasn't recruited ohio at all which has always been integral part of mich's successful teams in the past. even nationally, osu and mich aren't competing for the same recruits.

He is missing out on top recruits left and right. A few 2021 defensive recruits changed their decisions. He has nothing coming in to fix that defensive line.

This University is screwed for the next 4 years.

They can’t develop talent for shit. 5 stars don’t play like 5 stars and the 3 and 4 stars ain’t getting coached up

They are talking about hiring Urban.

I hate everyone.

>They are talking about hiring Urban.

fickell would be a great hire but he'd never do it.

otherwise the coaching market is pretty bare right now devoid of any top shelf candidates.

tom herman? les miles? matt campbell?

>>They are talking about hiring Urban. I hate them
>
>fickell would be a great hire but he'd never do it. They dont listen, hes all of a sudden their darling now. I hate them.
>
>otherwise the coaching market is pretty bare right now devoid
>of any top shelf candidates.
>
>tom herman? les miles? matt campbell? Matt Campbell seems to be a guy that is getting talked about more. I hate them.

these db's vs olave/wilson/fields...yikes

They would have been better off not playing at all.

I actually feel sorry for michigan fans now . Like absolute pity the way I do towards the stray dogs in my grandpas village in rural south India

such sad poor helpless creatures


can’t wait to hang 80 on those dickheads tho

Living on the street is the only life those dogs have and will ever know. Michigan is like a show dog that got abandoned on the streets of a poor rural town in Appalachia, which is fitting since Appalachia State took their football soul. They remember what the good life was like and are trying desperately to find their way back but they keep getting lost in these rural back country roads because all these trailers have the same damn MAGA flags and empty Bud Lite cans.

I am just a defeated soul all around

> Like absolute
>pity the way I do towards the stray dogs in my grandpas
>village in rural south India

Like it's almost impossible to remember what harb was like when he first showed up in AA given his current state...but man he was insufferable. And the fanbase and players followed suit.

And even this past offseason the mich staff was running their mouths. Apparently harb antagonized Day during a B1G conf call. I'm not seeing any mercy shown if mich actually makes it to Columbus in december.

This is probably where Hugh Freeze ends up coaching.

Derrius Guice named in two rapes of students

Grant Delpit taping sex and sharing it without permission; Jacob Phillips accused of rape (both 2019 starters)

little-known receiver Drake Davis confessed to hitting his own girlfriend to the deputy athletic director, who did nothing for months until he was finally arrested (police found the confession after a search warrant through Davis' phone)

plus five other players accused of rape since Coach O has taken over

LSU has locked up the campus police reports, only turned one over to the local police, and skirted Title XI investigation laws

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/sports/ncaaf/2020/11/16/lsu-ignored-campus-sexual-assault-allegations-against-derrius-guice-drake-davis-other-students/6056388002/

Sports fans are very selectively concerned about these things

Fields is the best QB in college.

>Fields is the best QB in college.

>>Fields is the best QB in college.

Nah ..you’re good.

Those were his first two interceptions of the season.

The boy is too good, but plays happen.

and i wish rondale moore had a bigger stage because that dude is the truth

Get that basketball team out of here.

Zone defense? Oh, yeah?

Aight, bet. Hand it off to my man, then hit you with an air show.

Fields out here Reggie Bushing cats!

Can I get a few NFL predictions for tomorrow?

I’m 12-5 in the NFL

And yes it was an insult. They were up 28-7 at half time. It should have ended 52-14

Just bad defensive play giving up home run plays in the second half .

They got the W. So I’m good.

but then play terrible defense in the second half. Did they get complacent or get tired ?
Indiana threw for 500 yards, the majority of it in the second half.

Doesn’t matter ,Day has to correct that. This should have been a blowout

And Fields was trying to win the Hesiman with this game. He was trying to do too many electric things instead of doing the smart thing. 2 ints for his entire career before today, throws 3 today, and all of them were bad decisions.

Anyway, still the big dogs in the big ten, and that so called Indiana defense gave up 300 yards on the ground and 40 plus points. They are still basketball team to me.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Pedo university deserve it.

Fields is awesome... is there an NFL GM that thinks he's better than Lawrence?? think i'd take him first.

It’s prolly not fair but history has not been kind.

>It’s prolly not fair but history has not been kind.
>
>


they just never ever pan out at the next level

I can’t think of one significant Ohio State QB who has been successful in the NFL in my lifetime.

and even in the modern era fields and haskins have been the only ones with pro potential.

so not exactly a huge sample size here.

and not even bother to get 7 or to at least make it a closer fg.

Up too damn late

Fail this season, especially after their coaches fought so hard for the right to play this season so they could coach themselves to the hot seat or even being fired.

Poor Nebraska had to play the powerhouse known as Illinois today, just another example of how the Big 10 gave them an unfair schedule.

Bama beat UK 63-3

Playoff rankings will have them number 1.

1.Bama
2.ND
3.OSU
4.Clemson

I will lose my shit if ND and OSU meet for the NC.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ICYMInewsOK/status/1329917054632255488

These fuck faces are going home for thanksgiving to give it to their family.

If they lose to Rutgers? Rutgers is styling on them right now!

Harbaugh would have to be fired if that occurs.


These dudes belong in the FBC

Saw the Milton kid for a full game last week for the first time.
Terrible.

I hate Michigan more than I hate the lakers, but damn
to see Michigan’s program in the shitter like this?

ya that's an L.

As well as the playoff rankings putting a 1 loss clemson team over osu. Not that it really matters at this juncture, but just further proves how looney this committee stuff is.

and seems like a grade A asshole. His FSU bullshit is a bit much.

The committee has been trash but at least they had the common sense to rank BYU at 14.

>and seems like a grade A asshole. His FSU bullshit is a bit
>much.

Dude is way above and beyond a piece of shit.

Interesting that there was a bigger dog piling for scott frost than dabo...

Yeah, Dabo, Urban and Saban are all assholes but they get a pass because they win. I am not saying that is fair or right but it is the reality of CFB and it is the nature of CFB. Frost seems like an asshole but he isn’t winning so he gets roasted.

dude is on the wrong side of absolutely every damn thing.

And compare Saban's statements to LSU cancelling due to covid vs FSU cancelling. Not even in the same stratosphere.

Urban isn't coaching currently so who cares.

Frost wanted to play football. That's it. Whether or not he’s winning has no impact on the morality of his stance. If anything that further demonstrates the frivolity of who we selectively decide to dog-pile on.

In the SEC, Big Ten and college football coaches in general feel the same way. That doesn’t make those comments right but to pretend that Dabo is the only one that feels that way in CFB is naive.

LSU and Ed just got caught up in a Baylor like cover up of assaults and rapes, where is the outcry for that? Where is the NCAA? What are the penalties? CFB is full of shitty people and the worse part is all those shitty people not only get away with their shorty behavior, they are also in charge.

Frost wanted to play football in the middle of a pandemic, probably believed that canceling football was some big QAnon conspiracy against him and Nebraska. Frost got roasted for wanting to play football during a pandemic, now CFB is going to try to limp along and finish this season when they probably shouldn’t have played at all. Once again, if Nebraska was actually good or relevant like Bama, Clemson or OSU then he probably doesn’t get so much shit for his comments.

I know Urban isn’t coaching right today but that doesn’t excuse him of his own shady shit he did and overlooked in his career.

>In the SEC, Big Ten and college football coaches in general
>feel the same way. That doesn’t make those comments right
>but to pretend that Dabo is the only one that feels that way
>in CFB is naive.

There's no naivety here. Dabo is the only one who's been outspoken about it and the only one throwing a tantrum and making accusations after a cancellation. Regardless of how many other coaches feel similarly about the pandemic and racial equality (and we have no idea what the true percentage is), they were at least wise enough to keep their mouth shut about it.


>
>LSU and Ed just got caught up in a Baylor like cover up of
>assaults and rapes, where is the outcry for that?

Exactly. See post #264. And this underscores my whole point of cfb fans being real selective with their moral outrage.

>
>Frost probably believed that canceling football was some big QAnon
>conspiracy against him and Nebraska.

We have no idea what he believed and these types of generalizations are baseless and unfair.

>Frost got roasted for
>wanting to play football during a pandemic

And the other 100+ coaches who wanted to play didn't get roasted because...? Or the coaches of other fall NCAA sports, HS coaches, and coaches of youth sports? It's not like Frost was a lone pioneer with this shit.

There's a grand total of 4 teams with any legit chance of winning a NC...this isnt about wins and losses. Or that only coaches of winning programs are spared from ridicule.


>I know Urban isn’t coaching right today but that doesn’t
>excuse him of his own shady shit he did and overlooked in his
>career.

What does XYZ coach from whatever year in the past have to do with Dabo running his mouth in 2020 about issues (pandemic and social justice) that have never impacted cfb up until this year?

There's no precedent for this. You brought up Saban which would serve as relevant comparison given that he's currently coaching. His response to these issues have been wildly different than Dabo's.

And the idea that Urban has been spared from media/fan ridicule or given a pass because he wins is simply not true at all. He's actually the most talked about coach that I can ever remember. If that dude so much as breathed in the wrong direction it was going to be an ESPN headline.

i saw through his greasy awww shucks country boy steeze from the jump

I still remember a ways back when a clemson punter screwed up on a fake punt and then dabo proceeded to absolutely roast the kid in the halftime tv interview. I called it like it was (a genuinely shitty thing to do) and everyone rushed to his defense.

I hope we beat him at least once while hes at Clemson though, maybe this year.


im not sold on fields in crunch time though..at least not yet

>I hope we beat him at least once while hes at Clemson though,
>maybe this year.

for sure


>im not sold on fields in crunch time though..at least not yet

did you watch fields vs clemson last year?

Fields is the best qb in osu history and it isnt even close...enjoy however remaining chances we get to watch him suit up.

Zero Heisman nominations
Zero Big 12 Championships
1-4 against Oklahoma (losing to 4 different OU QBs)
Lost to Maryland (twice)

I ask myself how Ehlinger is still there as the starter. That is either horrible recruiting or unbelievable loyalty on the part of the coaching apparatus.

>

Wack ass basketball school out of here!!

Heisman...give it to Book right now. Those on the run flip throws? Shit

Wore out NC and Clemson ..bring on wack ass bama. And we were without our best OL

Ate them shits like a Scooby snack.

i wonder if it's the rose bowl that's holding them back from doing so

the rose bowl suits stay fucking everything up

.

cmon people... stop doing goofy shit just to say you were first.

>cmon people... stop doing goofy shit just to say you were
>first.
>
>

Trevor Lawrence runs between the tackles on a designed run and you cant make contact with his helmet.

what else is new

ND is too Fucking good on both sides of the ball...too fucking good.

Playing those weak ass SEC schools...Book is too elite

He sliced Clemson for 52 points

>He sliced Clemson for 52 points

47

fortunately that will righted in the ACC champ game

I'm sure Michigan wants to grant him that dignity, but he seriously looks like he's wanted to sneak out the escape hatch since the Michigan State game

and he's looked comatose for a few seasons now.

actually wouldnt surprise me at all if he stayed through the end of his contract next year.

the fact that we aren’t playing in front of crowds. The fan reaction and environment at the Big House would be brutal at this point.

I think he resigns himself after we get killed by OSU this year. He’s been a shell of himself the last few years, just collecting a paycheck. He also caused some friction with the AD and president campaigning for the Big Ten to start the season at the time the school was against it, so some of the goodwill he had is likely gone. Rack on this dumpster fire of a season and I gotta believe he’ll make the call himself.

>the fact that we aren’t playing in front of crowds. The fan
>reaction and environment at the Big House would be brutal at
>this point.


not playing in front of crowds, playing less games in general means less chances for embarrassing losses...and the biggest one of all, he may get bailed out from having to suffer the ugliest loss of his lifetime to osu. I'm doubting that game gets played at this point. And with the 21 day big 10 rule I'm not even sure who will be able to suit up for osu.

>And with the 21 day big 10 rule I'm
>not even sure who will be able to suit up for osu.

and to send harb out in style

>and to send harb out in style

subbing in tate for haskins on the goal line on multiple drives and then taking a knee at the end...

Wisky is a 10 pt fav FWIW...

NW vs Penix-less Indy in the big 10 champ game will have the attention of the world

big 10 is always on some next level visionary shit.

which is exactly how they looked vs NW

after watching wisky and msu today it's almost hard to wrap my head around how easily they beat mich.

It’s like they’re playing to not win

Which they love perfected

and i couldn't tell you who the best team is. i couldn't even give you a top 3. they're all roughly the same for me with maybe cal and stanford as a cut below the rest.

Cal should be better than it is but got hardly any practice time in due to both California and Berkeley Covid guidelines. That hurt the team, especially the offense because we have a new OC and RB coach.

I would say the Pac 12 is probably on par with the Big 12.

it's on a steady decline and the recruiting rankings are showing it as well. the best west coast talent is leaving the region.

there's just a lot of parity right now and I see that continuing in the years to come.

oregon had a bunch of opt outs so they def got hurt in that regard but not sure about anyone else.

tv people are still talking about sc having a '14% chance to make the playoffs'...meanwhile I know none of them have actually watched them play because they completely suck and shouldve lost to asu and u of a.

flat-out thrown directly to the DB interceptions

TE 87 for Washington looked like a beast, though -- UDub and Notre Dame have the direct pipeline for big, athletic white tight ends

they had beat the pants off washington first half and then came out in the 2nd half and turned the ball over 4 straight times i believe.

theyre beating the brakes off washington like the year is 2013 or some shit

And I’m a fan.

If you don’t play, you don’t stay.

talk about a storybook finish for the harbaugh era

I'm uh, a little worried about what's gonna happen when my gators play the tide.

limited. It wasn’t an impressive win at all, and they should definitely fall. They pulled away in the 4th.

But the committee ain’t going to do that.

VT is the dumbest football team I have ever seen. They showed zero urgency. Not once did they go no huddle. They Just ran and burned clock as if they were ahead every quarter. When you get down 20 points with a quarter to go why the fock are you burning clock and running the ball? Letting the play clock run all the way down...

the losing cloud over the team is tangible; good players are being affected by the pressure of everything going wrong.

no real plan at quarterback. $2 million a year for an experienced OC running an offense that is as uninspired as the first year of Pruitt's tenure, making me think it has a lot to do with the head coach's preferences.

for the first time under Pruitt, I don't see any direction. that's bad, even more so than the lack of wins.

amazing to see the diverge between Indiana and Tennessee after their bowl game last season.

Plan Accordingly!!!

I'm genuinely curious

there seems to be a fair bit of variables in play, especially when taking harbaughs contract status into consideration. and perhaps possible ramifications for the reputation of the program going forward?

Even Harbaugh would talk tough publicly about playing but privately he knows Michigan will lose badly.

So yes.

Play the game.

Would not playing screw ohio and be hilarious? probably

To allow them to play in the championship game.

and i believe the committee said as much.

what's the difference whether osu plays NW, iowa, or wisky in the "champ" game? same shit.

personally id rather see them play mich in the championship week. this season is such a clusterfuck, as long as I get to see osu drop 80 on mich anything else would just be gravy.

>Would not playing screw ohio and be hilarious? probably

i think osu will figure out a way to get some games in.

besides, as the cfb fan that i know you are...do you really want to see the playoffs turn into a SEC/ACC round robin? or maybe we can watch ND/clemson for a 3rd time!

>besides, as the cfb fan that i know you are...do you really
>want to see the playoffs turn into a SEC/ACC round robin? or
>maybe we can watch ND/clemson for a 3rd time!
>
>


I would rather see an 80 point beatdown than not seeing the game tbh.

that Harbaugh needs to go. There are rumors of an extension being offered which makes ZERO sense to me. Let them play and get blown out and make it clear.

That being said, if the Covid issues are legit, then they are legit.

From only a few cases to 40+ cases...

I suppose we'll never know the truth.

But I find it hard to believe that if mich was having a good season, or had a shot to beat osu, that they wouldn't have showed up with whatever they had and gave it a go. Just like other teams in the B1G are doing on a weekly basis, including osu last week.

What bothers me even more is that there seemed to be absolutely no push to reschedule the game for the following week. And all that anyone showed concerned for was whether or not to manipulate some dumb rule to get osu into this farce of a 'championship' game. Whether we played some snooze fest vs Iowa or NW or Wisky next week means nothing to me as a fan. The playoff committee says it doesn't matter to them either. I'd have much rather played mich, resume builder be damned.

Middle aged/elderly blowhards are so concerned about maintaining the tradition of this game that they would sooner have a a heart attack and die then make the obvious decision to move it out of the noon time slot, yet seemingly have no issue of not playing the game at all, which had been done consecutively for the past 102 years. Go figure.


>that Harbaugh needs to go. There are rumors of an extension
>being offered which makes ZERO sense to me. Let them play and
>get blown out and make it clear.

Yes, even more reason to suggest that non covid related issues entered into the move to cancel. Losing by 70 and then signing harb to an extension would've been a rough one to pull off.

show up with your bum ass depleted squad and take your L.

i hope they sign harbaugh up for a lifetime extension as it's a fitting punishment for this embarrassment of a program.

harb can go out joepa style on some senile dead behind the eyes puppet on the sidelines shit. he's already at that point for the most part.

ASU just beat Arizona 70-7. Herm kept was up by like 42 and went for it on 4th and 2 to score another TD, WHILE UP 42!!

I thought Sumlin was going to succeed at Arizona and laughed that ASU setter for Herm. Looks like I was really wrong on that.

Congrats HH on winning the Territorial Cup.

Game was 14-0 56 secs in

Also is Sumlin in good health? I saw a pic of the post game handshake and his hand was all lumpy and had these growths all over it

Run up the score for rankings.

the 4th and 2 was on the goal line so not much you can do there. either kick or run a play, either way you're gonna score. if anything a fg comes off as looking more petty than running a regular play.

I thought sumlin was a great hire for that program as well. hard to figure out what's in the water over there in tucson. if you can field a competitive team in pullman or Corvallis you should be able to put something decent together in tucson, a place that has a lot to offer.

and fucked up his ankle on the landing :-(

dude is getting like a $10 mil dollar buyout lol

Just like Leak, Wurrfell( or whatever), sexy rexy....

Already two INTs , 2 sacks against weak ass LSU....and he can’t run or really move in the pocket. He is a pure drop back passer.

Cats talking about Trask and Jones for Hesiman , fock outta here

Book carved up Clemson and North Carolina ..no mistakes. North Carolina just beat the shit out of number 10 Miami, and Notre Dame walked right through North Carolina....

Book gets my vote.

That makes that Notre Dame win so focking impressive.

With the way Florida is playing like crap, and if Notre dame loses to Clemson I don’t want to hear crap about them dropping out of the top 4....

Such a frustrating L

That’s not what lost the game. LSU was in that ass all game. And it was tied at that point I believe. It was a terrible penalty, yes.

Plus Florida had a chance to tie it and missed the FG.

Trask threw 2 picks , and Florida’s defense got ate the fock up.

And trask’s terrible throws were before the fog that limited visibility.

The one that shouldnt exist is always the one that loses a game.

since I've been alive, Florida probably has the highest rate of defensive players who commit dumb penalties in CFB

https://twitter.com/JTalty/status/1337978067227119622?s=20

"I guess the best thing to do would have been to play less games because you seem to get rewarded for not playing this year in college football."


maybe don't lose at home at 24 point favorites to LSU's scout team roster?

To come out with the ridiculous comment.

Or better yet, just beat Bama and you might still get a playoff spot.

Also, perhaps coach your players a bit better so they don’t throw shoes and incur stupid penalties.

or don't call an awful timeout right before lsu attempts a 57 yard field goal, etc. etc.

the lack of accountability from some of these coaches is really mind blowing.

instead of focusing on the task in front of you and your only way into the playoff (beating bama) you're gonna sit there and cry about some team in another conference that was affected by the pandemic. just pointless.

that was always such a weird situation with Gus, Arkansas, and Auburn. wonder where he ends up... Chad Morris getting fired from Arkansas to get hired by Gus and now they're both toast is hilarious

actually what is more hilarious is the 21 million dollar buyout. wow.

South Carolina - White
Vanderbilt - White
Southern Miss - White
Arkansas State - White
South Alabama - White
Utah State - White

3 of the 14 current Black head coaches were fired

maybe a DC on some level?

I think that Lovie's 17-39 record (10-33 in the Big Ten) speaks for itself. But some of these programs think they should be winning chips every year but that's just not the case. Illini football is who we thought they were. They might get the occasional year where they surprise people.

Prior to Lovie, Ron Zook had the longest run as coach with 6 years. His record was 34-51. The "glory days" are gone. Illini football is just there to take Ls.

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even though this week and last week' game have been cancelled?

we have a weekly tradition of subjectively ranking teams so we can argue about it

but literally every single game i watched this past saturday the announcers took a break from the game action to discuss how unfair it was that the big 10 changed the rules to let OSU in.

it's next level stupidity given that osu actually beat indiana head to head.

meanwhile, if it weren't for the rule change you'd have a 3-5 PSU team playing in the big 10 champ game this weekend. have fun with that.

something to talk about since games are cancelled and it is that time of the year for fans and media to debate who is being left out of playoffs, etc

I still stand by my comment that Indiana is the 2nd best team in the Big 10 this season.

you'd have to say that Indiana is the 2nd best team but that's really an indictment on the quality of play in the B1G this year

OSU is ranked 3rd on the AP poll, but is ranked 4th on the CFB PO rankings.
Makes zero sense. Committee will do everything they can to prevent Bama and Clemson from meeting before the championship game.

Hope ND beats the living crap out of Clemson...but I expect some bullshit to happen just like in the OSU game last year.

>OSU is ranked 3rd on the AP poll, but is ranked 4th on the
>CFB PO rankings.
>Makes zero sense. Committee will do everything they can to
>prevent Bama and Clemson from meeting before the championship
>game.

since the loser of ND/clemson will default into the 4 spot

If Clemson loses, they will drop out of the PO. That would be 2 losses.

>If Clemson loses

We didn’t see Jermaine Dupri getting with Janet Jackson....but that shit happened.

I believe they're the only school in cfb to have cancelled 3 straight weeks.

but way to go...they spared themselves from another colossal beatdown at the hands of Iowa.

it's pretty wild to look back at some of harbaugh's run-ins with carrol, Schwartz, etc. and reconcile that with his current state of straight up cowardice.

>it's pretty wild to look back at some of harbaugh's run-ins
>with carrol, Schwartz, etc. and reconcile that with his
>current state of straight up cowardice.

bowl system and people cried about that, they they went to the computers and people cried about that, now there’s a human committee and 4 team playoff and people cry about that.

What do people want? A 64 team tournament like basketball? 32? 16? 8? There would still be crying about who was “left out”

cause there really is no reason to suggest Ohio State is a top 4 team while only playing like 5 games.

and yeah, people would still cry but who would hear the sobs from way back there

and replace them with Cinci and USC

but no way would OSU be 4th with 5 games. They would be 6th or some shit.

>and replace them with Cinci and USC
>
>but no way would OSU be 4th with 5 games. They would be 6th or
>some shit.

and cincy has played a grand total of 6(!) games and hasn't even played since Nov 21.

so now that we've established that this is strictly a personal problem for you and osu, we can move on.

but it does highlight the originally presented idea that cfb fans will cry and complain over anything and everything, facts and logic be damned.

furthermore, have you actually watched sc play? I've seen all 5 of their games and theyre wildly fortunate to be 5-0 and not 2-3. they're not good at all and would be 30 point underdogs to any of the top 3 teams.

so sc makes the playoffs and are down 4 touchdowns by the end of the first quarter and cfb fans turn the tv off and hit up messagebaords and twitter to cry and complain. because we all know that it is the divine right of the cfb fan to be blessed with competitive post season games.

and in an 8 team playoff I’m going to put 1 team from each of the power 5 schools in my hypothetical.

but this is why I would put OSU and USC further back in the Top 8 right today and no, I don’t think USC is anything special but they are undefeated and probably faced “better” competition than OSU this year.

better in quotation because I don’t think the talent level is skewed towards one team like the Big 10 this year.

and forgot cincy played 2 OOC games to start the year

>and in an 8 team playoff I’m going to put 1 team from each
>of the power 5 schools in my hypothetical.

the issue is that you didn't want OSU as top 4 in the current system

>no, I don’t think USC is anything
>special but they are undefeated and probably faced
>“better” competition than OSU this year.

def not better. at best I would give it a push because both conferences have sucked and it's not really worth analyzing team by team. but there are several teams in the B1G that would beat sc, including indiana and psu who were on osu's schedule. sc has made it a habit in recent years of losing/getting pushed around by mediocre B1G teams in bowl games.

JuJu went off in that second half.

Most years I would agree with on the Big 10 having better talent but PSU lost a ton of players to injury and covid. They are trash this year.

I’m from Pittsburgh so a follow PSU but don’t get emotional over them because I’m a PITT fan.

but my whole point about OSU is their lack of movement while missing 3 games and I believe Cinci dropped after a missed game or 2. Show some consistency at least.

While I “think” OSU may be top 4 I still cant give it to them just based on the eye test cause they haven’t played enough decent teams. This is why I believe an 8 team playoff would be perfect this year.

the year prior to that they lost as favorites vs wisky

the year prior to that they eked out a 3 point win as heavy favs vs nebraska playing without a coach

year after the rose bowl they got drilled by osu

last year they got drilled by a mediocre iowa team

usc isn't physical enough to match up with even mediocre B1G teams. and their talent level has dropped off steadily over the last decade. tonight they're 3 point favorites at home vs a team that lost to oregon st. and cal. what would the spread be vs the top 3?

I'm not here to hype psu at all. they suck. but the psu team that played osu in week 2 would absolutely beat sc. have you seen sc play this year? no snark, im genuinely curious.


>but my whole point about OSU is their lack of movement while
>missing 3 games and I believe Cinci dropped after a missed
>game or 2. Show some consistency at least.

cincy dropping is wack but that has nothing to do with osu. the committee drops teams like cincy and elevates/maintains teams like florida/uga to justify their top 4 rankings and to give them an easy out of their desired top 4 unexpectedly loses in in their champ game.

i think the committee should just rank teams 1-4 and leave it at that. they're far too incompetent to handle anything beyond that.

but this is also a hard year to judge teams with late starts. No one has looked dominant besides Bama this year IMO.

and I definitely think Cinci and OSU are related. Teams who don’t play should be treated equally if undefeated. Either move both up or down or don’t move either of them. The committee just can’t leave shit alone. You have undefeated teams scrambling to play someone to rank higher and the typical powerhouse trams just sit pretty while not playing for a month.

>but this is also a hard year to judge teams with late starts.

sc hasn't been hard to judge. they won 3 games they had absolutely no business winning and are beyond lucky to be 5-0. they're not a playoff caliber team.


>and I definitely think Cinci and OSU are related. Teams who
>don’t play should be treated equally if undefeated. Either
>move both up or down or don’t move either of them. The
>committee just can’t leave shit alone. You have undefeated
>teams scrambling to play someone to rank higher and the
>typical powerhouse trams just sit pretty while not playing for
>a month.

if you think osu was happy to not be playing then I don't know what to tell you. other then you're incredibly wrong. the lack of games has been a huge disadvantage for osu in terms of getting reps and improving as a team. again, we're playing football in a pandemic and games are getting cancelled left and right and every metric we would ordinarily use to evaluate teams has been flipped upside down. you don't seem to be respecting this.

when osu schedules 5 games in a normal year as a way to back their way into the playoffs then let's talk.

they're a mediocre at best team playing in a terrible conference

>cause there really is no reason to suggest Ohio State is a
>top 4 team while only playing like 5 games.

would prove that osu is a top 4 team?

if you don't want osu in the playoffs, then it's because you have a personal problem with osu. which is fine, hate is what makes this sport so much fun...but you have to at least call it what it is. a personal problem.

we're trying to play football in a PANDEMIC and it's been a hot mess from the jump. this was never going to be fair or thorough or whatever it is that you're envisioning. shit was gonna have to be adjusted and manipulated on the fly. we'll be lucky to pull off these 3 playoff games at all.

and there's even less of a need to expand the playoffs this year given the glaring talent disparity between the top 3 and the rest of cfb. and unfortunately, that's not a temporary pandemic problem, but a much larger issue the sport is facing down the road.

but you can’t just give out lopsided W’s for games you haven’t played.

well, you shouldn’t but here we are.

>well, you shouldn’t but here we are.

where adjusting on the fly is necessary and nothing is the way we really want it to be. as it is in all phases of our lives.

if OSU had avoided what would've been competitive games then that would be a different story.

but this speaks to the true problem which is the talent disparity between the top teams and the rest of cfb who really have no chance at competing in 2020 and beyond. it's a concerning issue and also why expanding to 8 teams makes absolutely no sense this year**

so osu gets in because anyone with two eyeballs can see they're one of the top 4, but in the process we have to convince ourselves that Indiana and NW (and florida and georgia) are really really good teams in order to justify our common sense decision. it's disingenuous.




**maybe letting more teams in could help the talent disparity in the long run?

So people have a right to cry. The NCAA basketball tourney is a fair competitive structure, that shows no favoritism or privilege to power conferences. The ranking and seeding of teams are not based on an eye test, or some unproven mechanism to determine the status or talent level of a team.

The college football PO system is a flawed system that does not properly determine who the best teams in the nation are. A committee selects the top teams based on perception, and that process usually favors the power conferences. It’s a system that is biased, so mid major teams don’t get the recognition and support that they deserve.

Unfortunately, there will never be a perfect system for college football, but the goal is to get close to perfect. An 8 team PO system would provide a fair system.

or they could do a PO system based on conference champions:

There are 11 Conferences. Select the champion of each conference + the runner up of the conference of the previous NCAA champion. So let’s say Bama won the NCAA title last season, and they come from the SEC. Well, the runner up of the SEC conference would get the 12th selection.

Take those 12 teams and put them in a PO, giving the top 4 teams a bye based on record. The PO would be completed in 4 weeks, and the games would be prime time games played on Monday/ Tuesday night ( MNF is over by then). This would give football its’ version of March Madness in January.

it's just recently gotten to a level that's beyond nauseating thanks to social media, the style in which sports media is presented (in shouting, argumentative form), and just overall content overload.

a bunch of us said it from the jump that 4 teams was not going to appease people and there would be a new round of crying to get 8 teams and so on and so forth.

the 4 team playoff has done serious damage to the sport and for as flawed as the BCS system was...it was probably better.

what's funny is, all the cfb haters who didn't like cfb because there wasn't a playoff system didn't suddenly develop interest once the playoff system was implemented. The playoff system which they had spent years crying and clamoring for.

you either get cfb or you don't. and in most cases you had to grow up with it to appreciate it. no playoff system is going to change that. and a lot of the crying is simply from people who don't get the sport but resent its popularity.

whole thing is a shitshow

>it's just recently gotten to a level that's beyond nauseating
>thanks to social media, the style in which sports media is
>presented (in shouting, argumentative form), and just overall
>content overload.
>
>a bunch of us said it from the jump that 4 teams was not going
>to appease people and there would be a new round of crying to
>get 8 teams and so on and so forth.
>
>the 4 team playoff has done serious damage to the sport and
>for as flawed as the BCS system was...it was probably better.
>
>what's funny is, all the cfb haters who didn't like cfb
>because there wasn't a playoff system didn't suddenly develop
>interest once the playoff system was implemented. The playoff
>system which they had spent years crying and clamoring for.
>
>you either get cfb or you don't. and in most cases you had to
>grow up with it to appreciate it. no playoff system is going
>to change that. and a lot of the crying is simply from people
>who don't get the sport but resent its popularity.

which would suggest the bigger picture issue is that people simply want to do what they want to do and fuck everything else.

it's no different than people who can't give up packing into bars or going to sunday brunch with their friends.

>which would suggest the bigger picture issue is that people
>simply want to do what they want to do and fuck everything
>else.
>
>it's no different than people who can't give up packing into
>bars or going to sunday brunch with their friends.

exactly

canceling pro sports couldve set an example to the lower local levels but my guess is the majority would've done what they wanted to do regardless. because that's just how people get down.

especially since the logistics of running a local tee-ball league is a heck of a lot different than professional teams with huge rosters and support staff flying all over the country

coasts either cancelled or pushed their seasons back, it kind of follows political lines so its not real surprising

https://blogs.columbian.com/high-school-sports/2020/10/05/oct-5-update-how-each-state-is-handling-high-school-football-this-fall/

you at the mercy of the committee

and honestly i really dont want to see some mid-major team play a elite P5 on the off chance they'll beat them. too many times it's a beat down.

every time a mid major lays the wood on a power 5 team in a bowl game.

I just like seeing new matchups over the same old same.

shit is boring. Bama vs Clemson isn’t really appealing to me anymore. We need new energy.

> Bama vs Clemson isn’t really appealing to me
>anymore. We need new energy.

in the playoffs. im cool with cincy getting a chance to be this year's sacrificial lamb as i actually think they're pretty good. let them get a shot though.

at least with bama and clemson both teams always bring it.

Ohio State ran all over Clemson last year, and at one point was up 16-0. Then the referees made terrible calls that allowed Clemson back into the game, and Dobbins injured his ankle.

- ohio state’s best defense player gets ejected for an accidental helmet hit
- dobbins gets injured
- referee take away a TD from a clear Clemson fumble off a catch.

Hands down Ohio Sate was the better team, unfortunately the score didn’t reflect that.

So I don’t get what you mean by ND and Ohio ST being sacrificial lambs

as in oklahoma

I'm an OSU fan, btw.

You are an OSU guy.

Just a lot of disrespect floating regarding ND and OSU

Shit got me on 10

only losers blame the refs.

that call didnt put 16 points on the board for Clemson

“If not sure we’ll play in the Playoffs if parents can’t be there."

yeah ok, guy.

Fields has been doing a Pac-12 Championship Kedon Slovis impersonation all game and Sermon is on a tear. but keep passing, especially in the red-zone...

when osu had to settle for 3 on the first drive after that holding penalty on the td i had a feeling shit was gonna go sideways like the clemson game

he'll be a good coordinator somewhere else, and I think the lack of elite talent flowing into Michigan was part of it, but he was never the same after the 2018 Ohio State game

I guess Harbaugh is for sure back based on this news

OC Steve Ensminger also retiring

aside from all those starters that left after 2019, also losing Joe Brady and Dave Aranda was an impossible compounding situation

bit of a surprising hire to me

but you have to be ballsy to knock off Saban

we're now at 10 HC hires...all white

even in a bowl game?