The deadline is rapidly approaching.

One guy I would like to see traded is Andre Drummond. Pistons have no choice here, because he can opt out and become FA at the end of the season. So they can’t let him walk for nothing.

Boston and Okc make the most sense because of need and assets.

For Boston, they need a presence inside. Thesis is avg just 3 rebounds a game and Tatum is not a banger, he is playing out of position when he plays at the 4. Enes is slow as hell. Drummond would correct that instantly and turn them into a true contender. More than likely, send Hayward (since he is the weakest of the big 4)plus Enes and a pick, hell, and see if they can get woods as well. Boston got too many small forwards in brown/ Tatum/ Hayward. one has to go, and not Tatum or brown.

Kemba/brown/Tatum/thesis/Drummond

OKC got major trade pieces and picks. Plus they need some serious banging inside, because Noel and Adams are decent, but noel is highly injury prone and Adams is not consistent. Getting Drummond would really make them contenders when going up against teams with star bangers inside. Send Noel or Adams and throw in a pick to get woods. Drummond/ Woods\ Mascula would be their inside rotation.

Paul/ Schroder/ Shai/ Danilo/ Drummond



Knicks and Hawks were mentioned. But none of them make sense. Knicks got too many big men and are top ten in rebounds and score most of their points in the paint. They need shooting. Same thing with the hawks. They need shooting.

>Knicks and Hawks were mentioned. But none of them make sense.
>Knicks got too many big men and are top ten in rebounds and
>score most of their points in the paint. They need shooting.

. . . which is why I expect them to go all-in on a deal for Drummond. (The silver lining of all our lottery picks being scrubs is that they're probably not enough of a return for the Pistons, so we might dodge that self-inflicted bullet.)

OKC has a guy that's not that much of a step down from Drummond. Why sacrifice something to have a slight upgrade for a guy who's the same age? Unless Detroit takes Paul and offloads some assets back, no point for OKC.

Boston makes sense but the Pistons don't want to take on salary. They want cap relief and draft picks. Boston can offer picks. And in your example, Hayward works because he has a player option this summer. If he doesn't want to stay in Detroit (he won't) he can opt out and become an unrestricted FA.

He'd be fun on the Hawks or Warriors too. Dallas might be a front runner. They need a C too. Clippers might be a dark horse. Would have to find salary to match his $27 mil which would gut their depth. But Harkless ($11M), Patterson ($2M), Green ($4.7M) and Zubac ($6.5M) could get them close. The problem would be losing their bigs depth.
Also Harrell is gonna get a big raise this summer so they'd be limited going forward. Drummond is durable but they'd still need guys behind him. Maybe bring in Noah? Or some other washed big back up? Their young players probably aren't ready yet.

Pat Bev, PG, Kawhi, Harrell and Drummond would be a devastating defensive group though.

What is close to Drummond on okc?
Steve Adams?

He is avg 11/9

Drummond is avg 17/15! And is bigger shot blocker and defensive stopper. That would put them on a possible championship level with Drummond.

There is nothing on okc close to Drummond. Drummond is a super super upgrade from anything that okc has. Plus they got the picks. They got 12 draft picks and 7 are first rounders.

Dude makes more sense then any other team other than Boston.

Atlanta needs shooting badly, so with no shooting, teams will just double Drummond in the paint. And they are not close to being a contender. And Drummond wants to compete for a championship. It would be just like being in Detroit.

Boston and Okc have great shooting, so Drummond’s numbers would become even greater.

>What is close to Drummond on okc?
>Steve Adams?
>
>He is avg 11/9
>
>Drummond is avg 17/15! And is bigger shot blocker and
>defensive stopper. That would put them on a possible
>championship level with Drummond.

This is hyperbole. OKC would be no where near championship level with Drummond and you know it. Or you just don't watch basketball. Their best lineup holds 3 small guards. That might be cute and win a few games during the regular season but they'd get owned in a 7 game set vs a real defense. Plus CP3 is 35 man. He's been their best player this yr with SGA a close second. You can't be serious.

OKC actually has a better defensive rating than Detroit. Swapping Drummond for Adams won't make them that much better.

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Adams turns the ball over less which aides your offense and doesn't force you into more defensive possessions, has a higher win shares, equal VORP, practically equal PER and a better true shooting percentage. The only thing that stands out is Drummond gets defensive boards and steals at a higher rate. Which he negates by turning the ball over. Mind you, Drummond has a higher usage rate (because he's on a sh*tty team) and plays 6 more minutes a game. Per 36 numbers even the score even more and if you bumped Adams' usage rate, they'd be practically even. He'd be a star on Detroit...and they'd lose all the same.

And OKC would have to sacrifice a gang of future picks to get it done. Why do that? It's dumb.

>Atlanta needs shooting badly, so with no shooting, teams will
>just double Drummond in the paint. And they are not close to
>being a contender. And Drummond wants to compete for a
>championship. It would be just like being in Detroit.

Detroit has the 4th best 3pt shooting percentage in the NBA this yr. So what's the excuse there? Nevermind ATL just got Teague who shoots 50% from 3. Already have Heurter and Young who shoot 39% and 37%. They need a defensive C who's a lob threat for Trae. Collins shoots 35% from 3, Hunter shoots 33% and Cam about 30%. The later two should get better as they are rookies. Collins as PF can space the floor and let Drummond work. Cam, Hunter and Drummond are decent defenders and can help make up for Young's deficiencies on that side. He'd be a clear upgrade of anything they have.

>Boston and Okc have great shooting, so Drummond’s numbers
>would become even greater.

Boston is 14th from 3 and Okc is 20th. C'mon.

Atlanta is ranked 30th in 3pt shooting and 23rd in fg percentage. As Woj pointing out, Atlanta would be a terrible destination because of their lack of good shooting. Their problem with an inside presence has been due to injuries. Collins missed a shit load of time in the beginning of the season, And Lens has been injured off and on. So both have not played on the court together for long stretches. Atlanta needs shooting more than anything else. Plus their not a contender or playoff team. So even if he goes to them it will not be any different than being in Detroit.

Even though okc shoots 20th in the league from 3 , their overall fg percentage is ranked 8th. They have 4 players who can get their shot at any place on the court, so you can’t double in the paint or play off them. Boston is the same way, 4 players who can get their shot anywhere on the court. And Boston is top 16 in fg percentage and top 13 in 3 point shooting. Plus Boston’s centers are injured and are injury prone. They need Drummond the most to me to get over the top.

As far as Paul being 35, that’s irrelevant. James is the same age. Also, I would not say that paul hands down is their best player. All our clutch in the 4th quarter considering that the top 4 clutch players in the league are those 4 players, 1-4. And OKC is the top scoring team in the 4th. So be careful with speaking in absolutes.

Pistons are looking for an expiring contract(s) and a first rounder. Okc has 12 draft picks, so ,no, it would not take a lot to get him.

To compete or be in the playoffs, a team like Boston or okc would be the place to go, not the hawks. But from Detroit stand point, it does not matter where he goes , as long as they get something of value in return.

Also you failed to mention the individual stats of the starting players for okc like you did for AtL, and they have lower team shooting stats than OKC

Paul : 48 fg percentage / 37 percent from 3
Danilo : 44 fg percentage / 41 percent from 3
Shai: 47 fg percentage / 34 percent from 3
Schroder : 47 fg percentage / 38 percent from 3

That’s great shooting from their starters. It’s their bench players that bring the team stats down, especially diallo and dort. That’s why overall teams stats dont really paint a true picture of the team

That group shoots close to 50 percent from the field and close to 40 percent from 3! That’s why they are lethal in the 4th and can score points from anywhere.

Now go look at those shitty individual shooting stats from Hunter, reddish, huerter, etc.
40 and 39 percent from the field, with Hunter and reddish shooting 30 and 32 pct from three. ATL need shooting more than anything.

Cmon, bro.

Also, funny thing, they played each other last night. And of course OKC shot the lights out. It was a blood bath.

>Also you failed to mention the individual stats of the
>starting players for okc like you did for AtL, and they have
>lower team shooting stats than OKC
>
>Paul : 48 fg percentage / 37 percent from 3
>Danilo : 44 fg percentage / 41 percent from 3
>Shai: 47 fg percentage / 34 percent from 3
>Schroder : 47 fg percentage / 38 percent from 3

It's funny, you list all this off and negate that OKC has a legit threat in the middle. Atl is piecemealing their C position with back ups, 3rd stringers and rookies who may end up being role players. Adams is a contributor to their spacing and allows for them to get better shots. Anytime CP3 drives, it's a threat. It was the same way for Westbrook. He probably got like 70% of his assist off of Adams when he was there. Also Paul is great at ball distribution so he helps get the team betters shots. However, this doesn't address what you stated, which was that with Drummond they are title contenders and that's false. Drummond is a marginal upgrade from Adams. Even with their shooting. It's not like his presence will make them shoot better.

>That’s great shooting from their starters. It’s their
>bench players that bring the team stats down, especially
>diallo and dort. That’s why overall teams stats dont really
>paint a true picture of the team
>
>That group shoots close to 50 percent from the field and close
>to 40 percent from 3! That’s why they are lethal in the 4th
>and can score points from anywhere.

Trae, Huerter, Hunter and Collins take most of ATL's 3's
37%, 40%, 33% and 35%. Add Teague and that's 50%. So the guys that can shoot will be on the floor with Drummond. To your point, it's the bench (and Reddish) that brings down their shooting.

Now, the overall FG%'s, OKC has an edge but...OKC also has a REAL center, which is what ATL needs. That's why they drafted Fernando and signed Len last yr. Drummond makes it all come together for them. It'll open the floor and give them better shooting looks as Drummond is a lob threat at all times. Not to mention he'd improve their defense a lot.

ATL is young and needs a few vets to build with. Drummond makes a ton of sense for them going forward. Next year, they'd be a top 6 team in the East. OKC will soon have to replace one of their biggest assets (Paul) and him and Danilo aren't all that reliable (injury prone). Which would be cool if they were younger but being 35 and 31, makes no sense to try to add Drummond to that as some kind of piece to a finals run. Especially for future picks.

You do have a point.

They aren’t definitely going to have to give up Collins for a good big.

>You do have a point.
>
>They aren’t definitely going to have to give up Collins for
>a good big.

Nobody expected OKC to be this good and CP3 was supposed to be trade bait for picks. I think they prolonged their rebuild a year and it'll definitely help SGA develop. But any scenario where OKC is giving up picks better be for potential allstars who make them virtual locks for the playoffs every year IMO because they are on the cusp of rebuilding. I don't think Drummond does that because OKC's core is not as defined as ATL's.

SGA-Schroeder-Bazley?-Drummond as a core is 2-3 yrs behind
Young-Hunter-Collins-Huerter-Drummond.

And we aren't even counting if Cam develops. ATL could grow that team for the next 3-4 seasons and make a serious run in a few yrs.

They got Capela. No Drummond. Capela is a 14/14 guy. See if this works out. He has a a foot injury ( not good for bigs), and considering Len current issues with injuries, and Collins had some issues earlier. Hope they don’t run into a situation with all bigs being out due to injury.

Feel for Capela being shipped to a very bad team. But that’s the biz. Maybe they can be a PO team next year. But they got to fix that terrible shooting.

Hawks front office is actually doing work now that they have a good core of young guys.

Capela is basically diet coke Drummond. Trae gonna feast off him like Harden did. And that'll open up everybody elses shots.

They probably not making the playoffs this yr, which is still good for them because everybody keep saying this is a weak draft but there's some gems to be had if a front office is diligent. Not to mention the draft odds have changed so if they end up with #1 or #2, they could easily land Anthony Edwards. Which would not only be a boon for them talent wise but he's a local kid so the sellouts would come. Plus he's exciting as hell to watch. Or they could Chance LaMelo Ball. Put him at the 2. He's 6'7".

Trae/Teague
Edwards/Huerter
Hunter/Reddish
Collins/Fernando
Capela/Dedmon

^^^This team would be scary in 2yrs and would make the playoffs next season.

I love his game. It is Jordan like. He can do it all, but play defensive.
Dude can drop 40-50 points with ease. He needs to be on a contender, because ain’t nothing happening in Chicago.

Bulls ain’t going anywhere anytime soon. So lets tank for lamelo and get picks and pieces.

Rumor has it that a trade of lavine to the lakers for Kuzma/green and tucker works based on the numbers. Lakers need a serious third scoring option and ball handler. Lavine is that and then some. However, Kuzma coming back is cool, but we want picks and not want to take green and tucker on. So bring in a third team to send tucker and green to and to have some picks go back to the bulls. Atlanta needs some shooting. Knicks need some shooting.

We could build around Lamelo/Kuzma/ Markkanen. That team would be light bright as hell though.

zach is 24. you don't give up on a 24 yr old with his skillset in an attempt to tank for an unknown draft spot in a weak draft.

Zach Lavine ain’t it. He is a very selfish player, great skill, but is selfish and plays no defense. And we are not better with him, as our record has showcased. Trade this guy while we can.

Lamelo is tremendously talented, and is unselfish like his brother, and just like his brother he makes the game easier for other players. Lamelo could be a generational player and you can play him at 4 positions, from pg to a stretch 4.

I watch the bulls weekly. WE ARE GoING NOWHERE WITH ZACK LAVINE and the bulls need a superstar face, which could be Lamelo.

I would be more than willing to take my chances while we can because we are already SHIT. So we have nothing to lose.

Also Ball is avg 17/7/7 in a competitive professional league, making players better.

That is what the bulls need , a player who can score anywhere on the court, as well as making teammates better and look to make the right play. As well as having a superstar image and appeal.

The seats need to be filled, because they are empty every night .

Great pick up by Dallas. They traded for Willy Cauley Stein to cover the loss of Powell (Achilles rupture). Like for like. Willy can play fast and get out in transition, as well as block shots. I think Powell is better offensively, but Willy is better defensively avg more blocks and steals.

Late: ariza traded to blazers. Bezmore and Tolliver went to Sacramento. A great pick up by blazers. They get some 3 shooting and defense. Tolliver can shoot , but is terrible defensively, Bez as well.

because everyone's capped out, he'll probably still leave in the offseason but it could be via sign-and-trade


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that game on March 6th is going to be interesting

also when they go up against the warriors, him vs. draymond

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WHAT?

Don’t tell me he thinks he can win it all with a small lineup?

They have been forced to go small since Capela injured his foot. Yeah, they won a couple of games, but this would be crazy.

Capela is 14/14 and can run in transition as a big man. Dude would be nuts to trade him because he wants a starting lineup full of guards.

.

Their goal seems to be to shed salary at this point.

But who knows.

On the jump, they stated that Pringles wants a center who can shoot and stretch the floor. But defense wins championships...which Pringles never thinks about.

I think Boston MIGHT do something
same with Houston.
Probably Lakers if they can.

But the other teams... meh.

one dimensional traditional centers are considered expendable in the modern NBA...

It's probably not the RIGHT move given we've been beaten by contenders pretty much every time, but it's the most likely.

with other people to make the deal work and there's really not anybody out there worth gutting our team for

or however many days a series last. i really hope we stick w/ what we have. i want to win w/ this exact group.

Because even when healthy, Lakers can be beaten, especially against teams with two way bigs. All the teams they lost too had bigs that AD couldn’t handle: Indiana,Orlando, Portland, Toronto, Clippers, etc.

Denver, Utah, Clippers... those teams are very, very dangerous. And now that Michael Porter is getting off with Denver and Jokic inside as a point cent? That’s Porter, Grant, Jokic, Barton Murray, Torrey, Beasley, Morris all coming at you. I don’t think the lakers can handle Denver in 7 game series. Don’t have the fire power.

Rumor has it that the clippers are in crisis regarding their starting lineup , specifically Beverly and Zubok. They don’t trust them, and feel Beverly is inconsistent. Zubok doesn’t give them big rebounding or defense around the rim.

Trade I’m hearing on the table: Harrell/ harkless/ Beverly and a young player for Derrick Rose and Andre Drummond. I think that Shamet’s great play at the point while Beverly was out confirmed it for them. Rose/Lou would lead their second unit. That’s some serious scoring off the bench. The starters would be: Shamet/PG/Kawhi/Green/Drummond. I think that would make them unbeatable.

I still think Rose gets traded for Kuzma, because that makes the most since to me. Lakers need more fire power off that bench and an explosive ball handler. Rose makes the most sense.

Celtics want and need a big,but they don’t want to give up smart or Hayward. Lol
I guess they want something for nothing.

Iggy is being really unreasonable and unprofessional. You get traded to a team that you didn’t want to go to. Instead of playing out like Chris Paul, you sit out and stay away from the team. He could be mentoring the young players, and they are a playoff team.

>Iggy is being really unreasonable and unprofessional. You get
>traded to a team that you didn’t want to go to. Instead of
>playing out like Chris Paul, you sit out and stay away from
>the team. He could be mentoring the young players, and they
>are a playoff team.

Yes, sorta.

But also, this was clearly agreed upon when he got traded. Memphis COULD fine him. They COULD force him to report. They COULD buy him out. They aren't, because they view him as an asset. It's a mutually beneficial decision for him to sit and for them to see what the market is for him.

I also think he's wildly overrated as an asset, but that's another discussion.

>
>I also think he's wildly overrated as an asset, but that's
>another discussion.
>

https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/1224832084964970496

>Iggy is being really unreasonable and unprofessional. You get
>traded to a team that you didn’t want to go to. Instead of
>playing out like Chris Paul, you sit out and stay away from
>the team. He could be mentoring the young players, and they
>are a playoff team.

An Athlete told a team that he had no desire to play for them before any deal was completed. The team acquired said athlete anyway. Both parties have chosen to employ the options legally available to them, but you claim that the athlete is being unreasonable & unprofessional?

You can't be serious.


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This is business. You play for whichever team drafts you or trades for you.
A player under contract does not make decisions on which team he is traded to.

Players are commodities who can be signed, drafted, traded or bought out.

He should be playing while trade discussions take place to trade him to a contender.
Due to his refusal to play for the team, Memphis isn’t going to do him any favors.
And now he is no longer accepted by the players.

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Everyone in this thread is an armchair NBA GM, critic, etc...as well as this board

Here giving there opinion on trades and players .

So your statement is extremely hypocritical.

Let all that name calling or whatever rest with Kobe. ...seriously. Just give your opinion and keep moving.

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>This is business.

Yes, it is, and it speaks volumes that you're only giving credence to the ownership side of the business coin here.

Because, in spite of your bitter ass, never-was and never could have been, middle aged, white construction worker mentality, players and owners are partners.

And players, like owners and management, have a certain amount of power and leverage, which they excercise at times, in ways that don't always work to the advantage of ownership.

But as you said- this is business, as as Joe Simon says, it be's that way, sometimes.

But that's not even the most pertinent part of this story:

Reports are that Iggy and the Grizz brass fucking agreed that this would play out in this way, with him sitting out while they attempt to get vue in return for him.

You're wrong in every facet of this, at every turn, from every perspective.

Have a seat.

people calling him cowards, assholes, losers...all types of shit. He didn’t want to suit up for them, they viewed him as a flippable asset. They simply over asked and didn’t get what they wanted. “You were in on the heist, you just didn’t like your cut”

The name calling and assumptions, and the racist comments you just Made is clearly out of line, and again extremely racist. If you can’t post without doing that, then don’t respond. Whether I agree or disagree with someone’s stand, I don’t verbally get outline or get personal because of their opinion.

And there is nothing wrong or incorrect with what I said, which is why Dillion Brooks said what he said and the TEAM of players feel the same way as I stated.

My point is that , and factual, he does not want to play for the grizz or be a part of their organization, which is why an agreement was worked out. But the issue still stands that he was disgruntled with the trade. And They didnt and are not forcing him to report to practice or play games. They didn’t and don’t have to do that because he is under contract.

It’s a contract, and is created to give protection and benefits to both sides based on the CBA. Owner is contractual obligated to pay and provide benefits to players for their basketball services. And players are obligated to provide basketball services for the pay and benefits they receive. As long as the work conditions and labor rights are favorable for both parties, the contract should be met by both sides. Period.

If not, then what is the purpose of a contract or or cba? If players are allowed to cherry pick where they want to go, or owners are allowed to cherry pick the players that they want, there would be an unbalanced league.

D’Angelo Russell recently said it best regarding his trade rumors: I understand that this is a business first, and I can’t control where and I get traded to. If I get traded, then it is what it is, and and I will accept it accordingly based on my contract.

No racism. No prejudice. No forced labor. Just business based on contractual ties by owners and the players.. Pure math.

I’m the type of person, where if I agree to a contract, I will live out that contract until it expires or gets renewed, and as long as all agreements have been met. I’m not the type that would sit out because I wasn’t offered a new contract or I feel that I deserve money. Imagine if an owner was allowed to stop paying you because your play became lousy? They can trade you if they want, or propose a buyout, but they have to pay you.

Chris Paul, who is a hall of famer, and is the bigger and better star, was shipped off. He was basically thrown out by Houston. Here is a guy who has tasted playoff success over and over, and came from playing for two top teams. If there is anyone who should be throwing a fit or feel disrespected, it’s Chris.

What did Chris do? He handled it professionally based on his contract. He didn’t demand anything or refuse to play. He went and played basketball based on the team he now plays for and the agreements in his contract.

The players of Memphis are fed up with the matter, and want him gone as soon as possible. NBA is a place where everyone knows everyone. Its a community league more than any other sport. So for a player to say hey, either trade me or buy me out, and he did demand that, because I’m not going to play for your team and I don’t want to play for your team, is unprofessional to me . There is a CBA for a reason, so I’m glad the players of Memphis are telling dude to piss off, while they are suiting up and playing. Dude does not even want to practice with them or just show up on the bench to support the players.

And of course Memphis is not going to pay 85 percent of his contract to send him off to a contender while they are a playoff team, and get nothing in return. Suit up, mentor as a veteran, show your skills in the PO, and hopefully move on during the summer if that is still the mindset. That makes the most sense for ALL parties.

>If not, then what is the purpose of a contract or or cba? If
>players are allowed to cherry pick where they want to go, or
>owners are allowed to cherry pick the players that they want,
>there would be an unbalanced league.

Welcome to 2020, where players have just as much leverage as the teams because they operate as partners. That's the balance.

As a matter of fact, the only people being unreasonable or unprofessional are Dillon Brooks and Ja Morant. They're tired of talking about it to the media (understandable), but fail to recognize that their own front office is responsible for bringing in a player that clearly stated he wouldn't play there.

Memphis tried to flip Iggy, got greedy, and it backfired. That's it. It ain't no more to it. © Biggie Smalls


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Yeah. It’s bullshit to honor a contract that you agreed too. Yeah it’s bullshit to honor the cba that the players and owners agree to.

Yeah players have leverage, that is within the CONTRACT.

If a player is FA, then it’s open season to play for whomever. If a player has a no trade clause, he can veto or turn away any requests to be traded.

Iggy has none of those things in his contract. So suit up and play for the team that you are on based on the contract that you agreed to.

Pure math. Pure business. Nothing more.nothing less, and not based on race or gender.

>Yeah. It’s bullshit to honor a contract that you agreed
>too. Yeah it’s bullshit to honor the cba that the players
>and owners agree to.
>
>Yeah players have leverage, that is within the CONTRACT.
>
>If a player is FA, then it’s open season to play for
>whomever. If a player has a no trade clause, he can veto or
>turn away any requests to be traded.

OR a player can choose to sit out, regardless of the consequences (including fines). That's exactly what Iggy did. As it stands, Andre Iguodala is not in breach of contract.

Your math and comprehension is flat out wrong.

Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis

Players that recently chose an option that didn't sit well with mgmt, and each of those orgs were proven wrong to attempt to discredit them for simply exercising the rights provided to them.


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What? You are wrong.

Kawhi’s situation was different. That was more of a medical situation, and he didn’t feel that the .org was dealing with his leg injury properly...totally different. I agreed with Kawhi, because the work conditions were not proper in that situation, especially when one’s health is on the line.

But the Anthony Davis situation? Pure bullshit.

The pelicans put down the red carpet and then some for that guy, and was prepared to give him the super max. He was treated like a king there. But Lebron tampered with him, to get him to force a trade so they could play together. And Davis did just that. So get out of here with that. That was simply a player who wanted to jump ship, take the easy way out, etc.

What kind of league would we have if every player didn’t want to play for a team because they are losing, or because they don’t want to play in a particular city, etc?

There are structures and contracts for a reason, it’s has shit to do with leverage or options for either side. It’s like a salary cap, so that teams can’t just load up on all the top players. Players just can’t say I want out to go join a contender, and that request being met by every team.


Why do you think there are FA options for both sides? That is the leverage. If you have an opt option in your contract, then opt out, or a team has an option not to re sign you, then they don’t resign you. Whatever is in the contract should be adhered to, unless work conditions and labor conditions or health conditions are not being met.

Iggy told the .org that he was prepared to sit out the entire season if he was not traded or bought out. The org said fine, we will try to shop you, and you don’t have to report. The agreement was basically FORCED by Iggy. All because he does not want to play for Memphis. He even mocked the team and made fun of being traded to Memphis.

There is no point of carrying this on. There are people who agree with his stand and actions and people who don’t. I’m in the don’t agree pool.

Plus this is water under a bridge. He was just traded to Miami.

..just to end with this:

>Plus this is water under a bridge. He was just traded to
>Miami.

Iggy showed poise & professionalism while standing his ground and that resulted In a favorable trade and likely extension. Thats business. It's not the 1st time and it won't be the last.



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“Iggy showed poised and professionalism.”

Lol.

Show me the things that I said that got these descriptions.

And no, a loose interpretation doesn't count. Show me exactly what I said, and explain how what I said fits the description.

Because I didn't call you a name.
And I certainly didn't say anything racist.
And I made no assumptions.

But I damn sure pointed out that your take lines up neatly with that of many white, middle aged men who take issue with young, black basketball players who actually excercise the power they have in the nba.

That your argument fits a certain demographic, that's on you. Not the guy who noticed.

Look you a took a solid thread regarding opinions, where everyone was agreeing or disagreeing respectfully and you got into personal, racist name calling shit.


“Because, in spite of your bitter ass, never-was and never could have been, middle aged, white construction worker mentality, players and owners are partners.”

Those were your statements.


No one was here name calling each other names or any of that silly crap you stated. You have never seen my persona , and have never seen me in person. You called me white , and made incorrect assumptions of my being. Stuff that had nothing to do with the conversation.

- I’m not white or have a so called white mentality as you put it- so calling me that is a form of racism , in that’s a white perspective and not a black perspective crap. YOU INVOLVED RACE. YOU DID. NO ONE ELSE.

And honoring a contract is not thinking that sides with a certain race. It’s simple math with me. I’m a man of science, so that is my thinking.

..You clearly have an antiquated understanding of how NBA contracts work.

You criticize players for exercising legal options they've earned WITHOUT violating their original agreements, while backing the Team/Org for doing the exact same thing.



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

>Look you a took a solid thread regarding opinions, where
>everyone was agreeing or disagreeing respectfully and you got
>into personal, racist name calling shit.

Again... didn't call you any names, and didn't say anything racist.

The white guy thing was just jokes, though still a valid characterization. You do realize this is a board that gleefully hosts White Thursdays, yes?

Lighten up.

>“Because, in spite of your bitter ass, never-was and never
>could have been, middle aged, white construction worker
>mentality, players and owners are partners.”
>
>Those were your statements.

Yep.

And what name did I call you?
I described the mentality inherent in the argument itself.

You're stretching, taking it as an attack on *you*, and not the argument.

>No one was here name calling each other names or any of that
>silly crap you stated. You have never seen my persona , and
>have never seen me in person. You called me white

I literally didn't call you white, and again, I'm clearly attacking the argument, and the mindset of the argument.

and made
>incorrect assumptions of my being. Stuff that had nothing to
>do with the conversation.

Also false. I didn't say a damn thing about your being. I attacked the argument, not you.

>- I’m not white or have a so called white mentality as you
>put it-

I'm not saying you have a white mentality. I'm saying your argument has the same mentality that I've heard a lot of white men express when a black athlete doesn't just "shut up and do his job" and actually asserts the his own power. Again. This is about the mentality of the argument itself. Not your "being".

Have you always been this melodramatic?

You're choosing to take this as an assault on your character as a whole, instead of an assault on your incredibly myopic argument.

So, to be clear: this is about your argument on this subject, not you the person.

so calling me that is a form of racism , in that’s
>a white perspective and not a black perspective crap. YOU
>INVOLVED RACE. YOU DID. NO ONE ELSE.

You're stretching like crazy, trying to turn my comments into a blanket statement.

Sorry, but you went with the stock White Guy take on this subject. Shit was ripped straight out of the hard cover of "Shut Up And Dribble: Whitey McWhitey's Guide To Addressing Issues With Black Atheletes- 7th Edition, Updated To Clear PC Censors"

That's on you. Just stand by your anti-labor, pro-ownersip stance.

>And honoring a contract is not thinking that sides with a
>certain race. It’s simple math with me. I’m a man of
>science, so that is my thinking.

Were that the case, you wouldn't be ignoring the player side of the issue, while going all in on the ownership perspective.

You also wouldn't be ignoring the fact that Iggy sitting out was something the team was aware of from the beginning, and they haven't been fighting to force him to play.

How about you disagree agreeably like any normal, mature human being.

How about you concede that I, like a mature human being, further clarified that my intent was not to attack *you*, but the argument?

A mature person would be able to accept that they mistook someone's intent to be something other than what it was.

So why can't you do that?

LOOKS LIKE HE FUCKING DOES DECIDE WHERE HE WANTS TO PLAY EVEN WHEN HE'S UNDER CONTRACT

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Yeah because Dillion Brooks said he wanted his weak ass out of there.

Iggy should be thanking Brooks.

this is the end of our interaction.


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The grizz had to agree to the deal. And I’m sure brooks and the players’ stand sped that up for the Grizz in a sense

Before today, I don’t think grizz was really pushing hard to find a suitor. But after what brooks and Ja did, the young faces of their franchise, I’m sure that lit a fire to mgt to get a trade done to remove the friction as soon as possible.

Thus: Dillion got his ass up out of there...just a figure of speech.

>And I’m sure brooks and
>the players’ stand sped that up for the Grizz in a sense

By a whole 18 hours or so?

>Before today, I don’t think grizz was really pushing hard to
>find a suitor. But after what brooks and Ja did, the young
>faces of their franchise, I’m sure that lit a fire to mgt to
>get a trade done to remove the friction as soon as possible.

...or the trade deadline is tomorrow, and they were motivated to get value for him while they could rather than lose him for nothing.

>Thus: Dillion got his ass up out of there...just a figure of
>speech.

This has literally been the plan for both parties from the very beginning.

This is all very, very simple and well documented.

No shit.

But it was already stated that if they didn’t get what they considered to be a good deal, they were prepared to sit on him to the summer. It appeared that was going to happen, because nothing was clearly good on the table.

Miami wasn’t even a rumor. All this shit happened today, after yesterday.

So I don’t Think it was merely just a trade deadline matter. Dillion statements did resonate throughout the league yesterday. We would t be talking about it had it not happened.

Them niggas were unhappy and wouldn’t him gone ASAP. That shit mattered.

They are taking an injured player in return! Winslow isn’t even healthy and has missed most of the season. Smells like a favor trade.

>No shit.
>
>But it was already stated that if they didn’t get what they
>considered to be a good deal, they were prepared to sit on him
>to the summer. It appeared that was going to happen, because
>nothing was clearly good on the table.

No shit. Buyers are likewise motivated at the deadline, not just sellers.

That's how this works.

>Miami wasn’t even a rumor. All this shit happened today,
>after yesterday.

This 100% irrelevant, but plenty of deadline deals come seemingly out of the blue. Every deal that happens doesn't come after weeks of rumors.

>So I don’t Think it was merely just a trade deadline
>matter. Dillion statements did resonate throughout the league
>yesterday. We would t be talking about it had it not happened.

No, it wasn't, but again... the deadline motivates buyers and sellers to find deals, either to shore up a playoff run, or to gain value for a player who is about to walk.

>Them niggas were unhappy and wouldn’t him gone ASAP. That
>shit mattered.

They wanted him gone? From.....being gone?

Sure, he wanted to play iggy and show him he was missing out on a good, young squad.
The whole issue was that he wasnt around.
YOUR issue was that he wasnt around.

The players wanting him gone doesn't change all the facts that to a trade deadline deal, from the second they acquired him.

This was a highly likely scenario from jump, not some shit that materialized because some kids with absolutely ZERO weight or influence in the league said some shit on Twitter.

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1224568046271987712

like... why? would they also get, like, four first round picks?

To tank harder

For one, it's Minnesota that's pushing for it, not the Warriors.

Second, it would, like you said, have to be for a package that includes like 3 or 4 first round picks. From what I understand (and you'd probably know better), this draft is pretty thin. So I don't know what like a total of five first round picks would even get you. Especially since next season they're going to be in "win now" mode.

It's a given that they're eventually going to trade Russell. But the talk has been that it's going to be in the off-season, packaged with the draft pick (which will be top 4). And in that case, since the Warriors will be in "win now" mode, it'll be for someone who we don't know about yet. Some wing or big man on a play-off team or team that just missed the play-offs who decides that they want a change of scenery.

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1224906985386250242

Sources: Clint Capela, Robert Covington part of four-team trade https://es.pn/390IAeC
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

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He was balling, too ,for Minne. Took over the starting spot from Teagues before they traded Teagues. There are players who get traded just because they make the numbers or contract work. Plus I Minnestoa is set on rebuilding around KAT.

Wiggins is is next.

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But realistically and honestly is anyone worried that the heat now move up a seed let alone a whole tier with him?

He also got a two-year $30 million extension to go live and play in MIAMI INSTEAD OF MEMPHIS*


I want andre to be my agent

*team option on the second year

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They must be really confident he's got more in the tank.

Shoot, before this, the speculation was that next year he was going to come back to the Warriors for a year, and **maybe** they'd sign him to an MLE.

Shit, I ain't mad at him. Get that money, Iggy.

"In July 2017, Iguodala signed a three-year, $48M deal with Warriors. Many considered the Dubs crazy for agreeing to that. Many thought he was washed then.

With this new extension, Andre will have gotten $78M over five years — all negotiated and signed AFTER age 33"

https://twitter.com/ThompsonScribe/status/1225232667760717825


as a 37 year old man I'm ready to join Andre Iguodala's megachurch just lemme know when services are

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..Unless you're allStah, in which case, you should just shut up and dribble.

LOL.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

This would actually put him over $200M for his career.

Not to mention his tech investments over the years. (google it)

Being in the Bay Area and connecting with the right tech people was a very smart move by Iggy.

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Naw. Not shut up and dribble.

But be respectful and professional with the current young BLACK players on the squad, meet with them, be a veteran and mentor while you wait to be traded or bought out. Not mock the squad or make fun of the squad ( which he did at one point). They never even met the guy, You can tell those guys were hurt.....and again I’m just a person who believes in honoring contractual agreements.

The nba is a fraternity brotherhood like community, so players don’t forget stuff like this.

Second year is non guaranteed. So it’s basically a one year contract in a sense. The option gives them financial flexibility to go after Giannis, and if they don’t get any big time agent, then I guess they will keep him.

From a BUSINESS and BASKETBALL stand point, good move by Riley. You get a defender and experience, and if it does not work out, you can drop him.

If Giannis does not re-up with the bucks, I can see him with the heat.

Butler and iggy deserve each other.

Miami are going after Danilo hard right now. Pat wants him Miami. I would be shocked if okc let’s him go, especially with how they are playing. But business is business.

Jae Crowder and Solomon Hill aren't playing for Memphis tonight, soooo
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Can’t with until the first Miami vs Grizz game. Them youngins are going to go hard.

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for Jabari and Alex Len
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225252407006912512

Woj reporting that both LA teams are trying to get Marcus Morris. Clippers are offering Shamet and something else (not reported). Don’t know what the lakers are offering.

Makes sense for the Knicks. Shamet is a point guard who can shoot. Makes no sense for the clippers. Morris is a dog for sure on both sides of the ball, but clippers already have that in kawhi,George and Williams. He isn’t a rim protector which is what they need, so I don’t get it.

Him, Harrell and Lou Willz pretty much makes their second unit a starting unit.

Plus they could finish games with:

Lou Willz
PG
Kawhi
Morris
Harrell


That lineup is good on both sides of the ball. Morris would actually make me see them as favorites if they don't lose Harrell to get him.

If the Lakers have to swap Kuz to get Morris, I think it's a 'slight' upgrade. Probably a little short sighted too. But with LeBron on his last contract, gotta win now. If they figure out how to keep Kuz and bring in Morris, they'd be my pick to win it all.

Now I know that trade was a favor trade by the heat. Memphis took a injured player ( and constantly injured ) to get Iggy out of there ASAP and not sit on him until the summer. And to keep Dillon( hell of a player) happy.

No way that trade happens if yesterday didn’t happen.

Whatever works for you fam

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>No way that trade happens if yesterday didn’t happen.

No what I’m saying is..yes he was going to get traded but for something truly Valuable. They were prepared to sit on him until the summer. There wasn’t anything close to be on the table for Iggy before Dillion’s and Morant’s comments ....

They took an injured player and who is injury prone to get past the situation as soon as possible.

And then the next day they immediately give Dillion an extension?

I’m just saying Management was like we can’t have our future stars pissed off or unhappy, so we have to move this situation now and just take whatever we can get....and not wait any longer because we now have a locker room and media issue on how hands.

And to make sure that Dillion is appreciated and that he is more important, let’s give him an extension now..

That’s the perception from my end.

better decision than anything they're gonna be able to do in the summer, plus they drafted him and he's gelling

Everything happening in the NBA in the past 3 days is a direct result of Dillon Brooks saying he couldn't wait til they found a trade for Iggy. Everything.

Lol. Haha

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Burks and Robinson III to Philly from GS! No report on what GS will get in return.

That’s huge. That’s some serious scoring and shooting

So much for that crazy bench next year for GS. Don’t understand this trade for GS.

Warriors get three second round picks. Warriors gotta have something up their sleeves to trade Burks and Robinson. Either they are stockpiling for the summer , or they are about to flip a big trade.

2 good scorers at the same position gone.

Either Wiggins is coming, because Sota wants picks. Or someone else is coming . Booker’s name is out there floating around.

I imagine big things are coming in the offseason, besides (presumably) regaining Steph and Klay.

Damn. I liked him in Miami more than any other team he was on, except maybe OKC with that "legendary" game against the Spurs

Crowder and Solomon Hill coming over to Miami with Iggy

Miami: Iggy, Solomon Hill and Jae Crowder

Memphis: Justise, Dion and James Johnson.

Damn.

that happened

Sam prolly wanted Pat to remove the protections off that pick...neither one blinked.

LIGHT YEARS AHEAD AHAHAHAHAHA

GERSON OUCHEA WINNING FOR NERD LIFE

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225480358860333056

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225480939196895233

I knew another move was coming ...but

I have no idea what GS is doing. Out of all the teams they didn’t have to do anything.

Only thing I can imagine is that they are preparing to go hard for Giannis or another big FA later on down the road by loading up on picks. But to move Burks, Robinson, Spellman and D’Angelo.

And you only get Wiggins in return??

Now they have no fire power for the season. I guess Wiggins is going to put up 30 shots a game.

Now they are going to get beaten by 50 points a game every game.

He gets ALL of the expectations off his back. Gets to learn from Klay, Steph and Draymond. He's more talented than Harrison Barnes.

I actually like this for the Warriors. If Kerr can bring it out of him, this might be a great move for them.

Next season is gonna be even more fun than this season.

>He gets ALL of the expectations off his back. Gets to learn
>from Klay, Steph and Draymond. He's more talented than
>Harrison Barnes.
>
>I actually like this for the Warriors. If Kerr can bring it
>out of him, this might be a great move for them.
>
>Next season is gonna be even more fun than this season.

duh?

Glad for DLo I guess, but at SOME point does he take these trades personally? I guess he'll be happy in Minny.

>Glad for DLo I guess, but at SOME point does he take these
>trades personally? I guess he'll be happy in Minny.

pretty much everybody knew DLo was stop-gap player with Klay & Steph out, with both of them expected to be back 100% next season they weren't going to pay $30mil for a 6th man. DLo is what he is, he had a mini-rebirth in Brooklyn but that team has still been good without him and the big names they signed.

Perfect situation for Wiggins he doesn't have to be a star just "fit in".

He was the 3rd option with KAT and Jimmy and....didn't go great.

Klay, Steph and even to an extent, Draymond have a different approach to team mates. GState's system at full strength plays waaaay better to Wiggins' strengths too.

He's a decent 3pt shooter, can go off for 40 on a good night, has defensive capabilities when clued in and is hella athletic.

It's his heart/approach that's always been in question...maybe with a better coach/different environment/system he might realize some of that potential.

there either but he was good in Philly and is even better in Miami.

>> in Brooklyn but that team
>has still been good without him and the big names they
>signed.
>

>>> in Brooklyn but that team
>>has still been good without him and the big names they
>>signed.
>>

like they miss DLo there are reasons why they let him walk and he's on his 5th team in 5 years lol

>>>> in Brooklyn but that team
>>>has still been good without him and the big names they
>>>signed.
>>>

this year he's been healthy more often than not and they're still struggling to find any semblance of a rhythm bc everyone just stands around and watches kyrie

(Dinwiddie will definitely opt-out after next season as well and he should. he's criminally underpaid )


lol @ getting a player like Kyrie and still fighting for a playoff spot

>
>like they miss DLo there are reasons why they let him walk and
>he's on his 5th team in 5 years lol

we all knew GS acquired him in the Durant trade so they have an asset to flip later if you thought he was gonna stay with GSW you're naive af

(and the Nets and their players miss D Lo DEARLY. dude got a 5 min tribute video last night at Barclays and the crowd was cheering every time he scored)

Naw. He doesn’t. He knows it’s a business, and he is a professional about it.

I suppose I can't blame them since even if they don't get a number one pick, Klay and Curry will be coming back.

Note that I say they might not get the number one pick because of the fact the Sixers pretty much made the league kill off tanking.

this is gonna be hilarious.

I don't hate it tho.

The team apparently REALLY wanted to get under the repeater luxury tax number. Even after the Robinson and Burks trade, they were still $800K over, and they wanted to get it below so it won't keep doubling. Might as well do it in a year we aren't going to win.

Wiggins with the Splash Brothers and Draymond could work. Wiggins is still a better offensive version of Barnes, so he could fit into the system. And they've kept most of the supporting players that are worth keeping (Though I did like Spellman)

Or they could take still Wiggins and both of the draft picks and flip them for another player entirely.

This is what I was gonna ask- did they make that trade to get another 2021 first round pick to add to theirs (assuming they have it) along with Wiggins to go after I don't know who.

That shit ain't going to work and everyone knows it. GS didn't even wait to see how everything would work with everyone healthy.

Wiggins main problem isn't ability. It's passion to do everything on the court. Somethings you can't teach.


Unless they get some top free agents and get maybe wiseman in the draft, I just see them going backwards. but we shall see.

maybe I'm being ridiculous

but he's on the one team where they don't need him to handle the ball, and where the fact that he can't shoot matters less than anywhere else.

idk, maybe this works.

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from the wolves?

we might not get that '21 one. but '22 looks like it might also be a lottery.

a total of 4 1st round picks and 6 seconds over the next 3 drafts. and those 2nd rounders are roughly equivalent to what our first rounders have been over the last 5 years or so.

good ammo for future trades, or 10 shots at landing a franchise-changing talent or two.


peace & blessings,

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

for... some reason.

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Damn, damn, damn.

so that's it. Nice move, because Brandon Knight was getting scant playtime and I liked Henson more than I liked Zizic even though I figured he wouldn't be around too much longer.

get him

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See if that squad can continue to do great things.

Glad Shamet is staying put as well, and with Beverly injured again that would’ve been a bad move. The way the offense was moving with Shamet against the heat was efficient as hell. Clippers set a franchise record knocking down 24 3s.

I'm not sure Morris swings the title, IT getting a ring is fine by me. I'd be happy for him.

*I* want to swing on Dudley and he’s on my team.

with Bron or AD, who’s going to say something? Rondo?

when you get deep in the playoffs

He spit in CP3's face last year.

He'll get into it with anyone.

Pat Bev is a dog too.

What’s your point?

>Pat Bev is a dog too.
>
>What’s your point?

the point I’ve been making all along, the Clippers have multiple dogs, we don’t have one unless you count our 34y/o backup point guard.

Usually when you get a versatile defender, it's a guy who can guard 1-3. This is a guy who can guard 3-5. Gives them another look for LeBron and any other bullish forwards. Also gives them another look against Jokic and AD. Going in with Zubac and Harrell was a little suspect in those matchups, I think. As far as "swinging" the title, the thing that will do that for them is finally getting their group healthy. This is just a bonus.

He was always on the trading block, but nothing good was on the table until now.

https://cavaliersnation.com/2020/02/06/andre-drummond-takes-direct-shot-detroit-pistons-after-being-traded/

"If there’s one thing I learned about the NBA, there’s no friends or loyalty. I’ve given my heart and soul to the Pistons , and to be have this happen with no heads up makes me realize even more that this is just a business! I love you Detroit..."


Detroit wasn't just going to let him walk for nothing. He said he was expecting loyalty from the franchise. But they had to get something back, even if its just two below avg bench players and a second round pick.

I quote Michael Corleone( after the hit attempt on his life): "See, Tom, all off our people are business men. Their loyalty is based on that."

Also, when Drummond opts out, the Cavs will get birds right for a potential sign and trade.


For Cleveland, it's pretty much a salary dump.

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love that line.

bc I don't know if he can get money like that in a new deal (which isn't really his fault) and while staying in Detroit another year would've been whatever as an option, the prospect of sticking around cleveland fucking sucks, it's not like he's been living there for years.


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cry me a fucking a river.

He and Kevin Love deserve each other.

I don’t have any kind of sympathy for anybody with an NBA contract that cries about not being on the team they want to be on especially dudes making the kind of bread they’re making.

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the NBA is moving away from traditional big men. Embiid is probably currently the best in the league and some people think his team is better without him.

and no one thought he was.

you don't have to cry for the guy, I'm just saying it's not his fault those weren't playoff teams. They weren't one man, or a big man away.

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prime Cuz.

He’s not Embiid, he’s not Jokic.

It seems like Drummond and most Detroit fans are disillusioned about what he is. He’s not even prime Ben Wallace.

and none of those guys would win a playoff game with these rosters

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era I was trying to get you to lower your sights lol

I can't imagine the thought process that would result in that.

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You: OH WOW YOU THINK HE'S BETTER THAN WILT CHAMBERLAIN

you're a fuckin loon

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You: off the rails like normal lol

All that bs he was crying about giving his “heart and soul to Detroit” and “no loyalty” are just sour grapes because he got traded to Cleveland instead of a team he wanted to go.

These dudes are smiling ear to ear when they sign these 9 figure contracts but when things don’t work out the way they wanted they want to pout. Fuck them.

and you're a jealous loser because dude got paid.


maybe go back to poorly investigating sexual assault, because you're not good at NBA talk.

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and you're a jealous loser because dude got paid.


maybe go back to poorly investigating sexual assault, because you're not good at NBA talk.

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any of drummond's pistons squads to playoff victories

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I’m in this boat. I feel the same.

Miami : Meh

They got a bunch of the same players. All hard working small forwards, and they still don't have a number 1. Jimmy will get you 20 a game, and work hard, but he aint going to give your 30 or be that go to guy in every game. Bam is a 17/14 guy, not a closer or number 1 guy. hill, iggy, crowder all small forwards, not number 2 or number 1 guys. They have slightly improved, but still not above the bucks, raptors, or Cs. It's like Riley's knicks team, no real number 1 closer to go to ( and no, ewing wasn't a jordan or bird like closer). Danilo was the real prize that got away. Number 1 potential, and it would have put them up there.


Golden State: Hated everything they did except for getting picks, which can help them go after the greek freak. But giving up Dangelo, Burks, Robinson, and Spellman without seeing how they would work with Klay, Curry, green, doesn't add up to me. We shall see. And Andrew Wiggins? He aint the type to fight game in, game out. That's a huge experiment to gamble on.

Clippers: Yes and No on the move. They got another dog on that squad, so you can't out tough them in any way or form. However, they didn't upgrade their biggest weakness, the center position. They can score in so many ways, its crazy, but they also give up points in the paint. And sometimes you can have too many dogs and not enough supper. Also, Shamet needs to start!

Minnesota - They are rebuilding around KAT and stacking picks. Mission accomplished.

Cleveland - Mission Accomplished

Detroit; Mission Accomplished.

Memphis - Mission Accomplished. Got picks, and if Justin can find a way to stay on the court, he is way better than crowder and hill.

Philly - Love the move big time. You got two shooters who are instant offense off the bench, and Burks can run the point. Can Bruce Bruce put the right rotation in? That's the key.

Atlanta - They got two solid centers, so they should be better in the paint. But that shooting is still ass cheeks, and hoping hunter and reddish develop a shot over night, grab a snickers because you going to be waiting for a minute.

Houston- LOL. Let the small ball period begin. They got convington who can 3 and D, but he is not a tree, and only trees survive the jungle. So, who will be the next coach for the rockets?....My bet is on Kidd.

Shocked that Rose, Kuzma, Love and Booker weren't moved.

Dion >>>Collison

You know what? if LeBron manages to work the same magic he's done with Dwight on Dion


then I will crown him as undisputed GOAT

let’s get it.

Pistons: trade drummond for literally nothing

All-stah: I'm an NBA GM and I definitely understand front office moves


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They got back 2 players and a draft pick. He would have opted out, and they would have gotten ZERO assets.

You fail to understand what literal means.

Do you like attacking people or things that are not there? This isn’t the 2000 internet anymore. It’s cool to debate, but show a little maturity, bro.

OOOOH THEY GOT JOHN FUCKIN HENSON BIG CHAMPIONSHIP MOVE THERE

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Armchair GM 101.

Some players and picks are assets simply to be used later to get other players or assets. That’s what those two backup players are. They will be used to make future trades,, just like Cleveland used them. And until that time they will be used as backups.

Again, if Drummond does not get traded, he walks, and you get nothing.....like what Durant did to OKC. So better to get some type of asset, then to get zero assets.

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Lol

Same thing Cleveland just got for packaging Knight and Henson. In every trade deadline, there will always be a desperate team that is willing to make a deal in some form or fashion.


What you don’t understand is that, the pistons weren’t going to get anything better than what they got ,because he is going to be a FA in summer. So why would a team give up huge assets for a player they can get for free ( not having to trade assets) in 6 months?

The Bucks might be facing a similar fate in the summer if Giannis does not resign. He can enter FA in 2021. If he does not resign before the season starts, they are going to have to trade him. ASAP. Because if they wait like Detroit did, no teams are going to be willing to give up huge assets, when they know the can get him for nothing during the next summer. Main reason why OKC and Golden State are sitting on mad picks.

To me he is as good as gone.

Prediction: Golden State will flip Wiggins and tons of picks to get Giannis this summer.

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I think I'll get by.

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They got back 2 players and a draft pick. He would have opted out, and they would have gotten ZERO assets.

You fail to understand what literal means.

Marvin will then sign with the Bucks. Damn. A long 3 and D guy who can guard wings and bigs, as well as spread the floor. I guess this would be the bucks’ poor man’s Marcus Morris in a way.

Lakers where y’all at? Talk about needing a player . Y’all should be on this with the quickness and not let the bucks get him. He would help spread the floor and for small ball situations. Play him at the 4 and 5 (6’9/6’10) since AD hates playing the 5 at times. But I guess Darren Collison is more important.

“Wanted” can’t be used. He Is not signed yet.

once Kemba found out, he said let me recruit this guy to keep him away from the bucks. So Kemba is trying to do that right now. My point is did the lakers try to contact him to sway him differently? Yes. He wants to sign with the bucks. But that has never stopped the lakers before from convincing a player.

I’m just saying since he is definitely a need, is anybody on the horn to try to recruit?

I’m still baffled at all the attention Darren Collison is getting, had that dude wrapped up in a blanket like he was baby Jesus.

Carry on then.

WTF IS WRONG WITH PELINKA NOT GOING AFTER EVERY AVAILABLE
PLAYER

Players that are an actual need for the team, especially one that is a 3-D guy, able to guard multiple positions who is now about to be a FA

Main reason clippers signed Marcus Morris was to keep him away from the lakers.

My question to you, and to lakers nation, was he ever sought out or any plans to try to get him now that the news is out.

https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1225888337564536832

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He is right though. I would have loved to seen the pairing, but they needed a player who is less ball dominant, and Minnesota needed a player who is more aggressive with the ball. Gotta respect the honesty, and I think that was relayed to D’Angelo based on his professionalism regarding it all.

After watching Wiggins tonight, he definitely fits their culture ...but I still say he gets flipped for Giannis later on down the road.

Bucks fans might riot and that trade assumes the salary cap doesn't go down.

If Giannis does not resign, Bucks will have to take the best trade they can get or Giannis walks.

Okc and warriors have the most assets. Miami will have some flexibility as well, which is why iggy’s last year on his 2 year contract is a team’s option.

I can see the warriors offering Wiggins a first and a second and another player like Damien lee.

Okc has Danilo, who is a big offensive weapon that everyone wants . Okc has 12 picks , 7 are first rounders. I can see Danilo and a couple of first rounders.


This is Lew Alcindor all over again for Milwaukee.

Here is a scenario from espn:

“If Giannis Antetokounmpo decides he wants out of Milwaukee this upcoming season, the Warriors — with a solid slate of draft picks (including their own, which should be one of the best in the NBA), a $17 million trade exemption (from the summer’s Andre Iguodala trade), and perhaps a stock-up Wiggins — can make a move. That would not have been the case if they did not move Russell.

The Sixers decide to move on from Joel Embiid or Ben Simmons? The Warriors will be ready to pounce.

There will surely be more true stars available in the coming months — that’s the NBA: no one is safe, nothing is permanent.

It might take a few moves, but the Warriors are hellbent on bringing in another superstar — on the level of Durant — to join the team’s Original Three.”