We got them right where we want them.

Or, very likely, this could be a very short post.

Either way, I'd prefer not to roll over during Game 5.

KD is going to practice. So, yeah.






And fuck Drake.

Durant is out after this year (c) Reeq

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-finals-kevin-durants-injury-absence-causing-confusion-and-angst-among-warriors-teammates-per-report/

NBA Finals: Kevin Durant's injury absence causing 'confusion and angst' among Warriors teammates, per report

Durant's status remains a major question mark, and his teammates are reportedly getting more irritated by the day

by Michael Kaskey-Blomain 7 hrs ago • 2 min read

Kevin Durant's extended absence from the 2019 NBA Finals is having a negative impact on the Golden State Warriors, apparently both on and off the court.

According to a report from Sam Amick of The Athletic, Durant's calf injury is causing some angst within the Warriors organization, as the team is not sure when -- or if -- Durant will be able to return to in-game action during the Finals.

From The Athletic:

"At the very least, Durant's absence that began back on May 8 is causing a mixture of confusion and angst among several of his teammates that simply can't be helpful to their overall cause. Sources say there was a very real hope that Durant would be able to play in Game 4, to push through in much the same way that Thompson, Cousins, Iguodala and Looney have done of late. When that didn't happen, and when they saw their season compromised more than ever without him after they'd grown hopeful of his return after seeing him on the court, the irritation grew in large part because they simply didn't understand why he wasn't there.

Warriors officials aren't running from the reality that there's frustration among some players, but they're also quick to point out that trainer Rick Celebrini – not Durant – is making this call. And until Celebrini gives Durant the go-ahead, his long and painful stretch of absences will extend into this pivotal Warriors summer where his free agency future remains unclear. What's more, two sources insist that the Warriors have believed for quite some time that Game 5 was the earliest time in which he would likely return."


Whether or not Durant returns for Game 5 of the Finals on Monday night in Toronto remains to be seen, but based on recent reports, it doesn't look good. Following the Warriors' Game 4 loss, ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported that Durant struggled during practice, and just doesn't appear ready to play.

Even if Durant is ultimately cleared to play in Game 5, one would have to wonder about the level of rust that he would be dealing with after being sidelined for over a month. But, Durant at even 60 or 70 percent would provide a big boost to the Warriors, who have looked lost without him at times against the Raptors.

Since signing with the Warriors in 2016, many have referred to Durant as a "luxury" for a team that had already won a title without him. While his return remains a major question mark, one thing has become clear during Durant's absence: He's much closer to a necessity than a luxury for the Warriors.

Got hurt and gs ran though Toronto

Now talking heads want us to believe he’s destroying the locker room...

FOH with the hot takes

I hope he plays...they lose...and KD leaves

Can’t think of any superstar that has been treated worse than KD’s time in GSW

Put some respek on that man’s name.

ever since he walked in the door, they've been sowing these seeds of discord btwn him and his teammates. always some bullshit narrative.

>Can’t think of any superstar that has been treated worse
>than KD’s time in GSW

I LOVE KD, but he brought this shit on his damn self

Now that I’m thinking on it...

...the msm treated him like dogshit in OKC before he left...

Trying to wedge him and Russy apart

Surprised you support this nonsense

Literally nothing to do with actual bball

>Can’t think of any superstar that has been treated worse
>than KD’s time in GSW

LOL. Yea I can't think of any other superstar who was universally villainized, had hate letters written to him by owners, and was boo'd at every arena to where entire radio/tv personalities had whole programs dedicated to denigrating and hating on legacy.

Never seen that before.

Of course, this is just a fraction of the hate that LBJ was getting. But that's because Kang carried the cross to pave way for his little brothers. KD followed in his footsteps, and will do so yet again when he leaves GS unceremoniously. But unlike Kang, he won't be headed to the most historic championship in league history (via the greatest reunion moment in sports history) - he'll just be going somewhere cool to ball out and ride out his last chapter comfortably.

But that's what fathers and big brothers do: make life easier for those who come after them.


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This is literally all manufactured

KD’s injured

Team trainer makes the call to clear him.

Everything else is bullshit

Please

>Please

If they don’t, we could be saying ‘who in the hell left the gate open’ a week from now.

The spins and narratives are already written either way tho. The Warriors are lucky and we’re never all that good is the most hilarious, but it’s out there. Gotta counter all of those ESPN ‘is this the best team ever yawl!?’ stuff from early May. My pops stays rolling over.

They are better at basketball than the Raptors, even
sans Durant.

If Durant is back at 50%, this should be an easy
3 in a row for the Dubs.

Why are we acting like this Toronto team shoudn't have
lost to the Sixers and didn't get smacked by the Bucks in
games 1 & 2?

>Please

even more shocked if he is effective.

Not playing and Dubs losing makes him look way more valuable than hobbling around on one leg.

Bron only one to do the 3-1 thing, ever

KD do that, he'll have earned his place among the
greats

it's a W for him with the "do the Warriors need him?" question. but that was always secondary to KD's main motivation to be viewed as the best player in the NBA. Kawhi closes this out, and the media/fans will jump on the chance to put him above KD. his stint with the Warriors may actually knock him down a peg, which is hilarious.

>even more shocked if he is effective.
>
>Not playing and Dubs losing makes him look way more valuable
>than hobbling around on one leg.

There’s also the ‘he’s a bitch cuz some report comes out saying he coulda played but didn’t...because he’s a bitch!’ storyline.

https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/status/1138140740738068481

I guess it sounds like he is playing but that co-sign was kinda janky.

I was really looking forward to his match-up with Kawhi to see who's the real top dog.

I still think Toronto takes it tonight bc the Warriors biggest issue has been defense and Durant is probably still too hurt to make a difference on that side of the ball.

KD at 50+% should be enough to win the next three imo.

...how much he can really contribute.

I'm guessing he plays 15-20 minutes at the absolute max tonight. Maybe a little bit at the beginning of every quarter.

>...how much he can really contribute.
>
>I'm guessing he plays 15-20 minutes at the absolute max
>tonight. Maybe a little bit at the beginning of every
>quarter.

at full strength.

lazy pass, stopping his cut to the basket (missing the pass from loon), etc.

Some of the dumbest passes ive seen

passed to him 5 feet in front of the refs.

like, didn't put it down to dribble.

no call.

officiating is dead. like someone else said, let the players call their own shit at this point.

who is getting the calls?

did you see Draymond go straight up on Ibaka?

i'm just saying.

ref are bad all around fam.

.

wrong spot

you're known as one of the select few who cheer injuries


loudly too

Went out like a G.

Wonder if that's his last second as a Warrior.

and continuing to do so as he leaves the court

an ovation clearly out of respect.

note sure what you're talking about.

The diversity of douchebags up North!

I've NEVER seen some shit like that

shows how they really felt.

in the moment

I'm not well versed in this

but it’s sports.

We know how fans do, they want an advantage

That was totally disgusting on a human level. Fuck Canada. Might be as bad as Texas Tech fans or people from Dallas.

idk what he or that staff was thinking.

if he's medically cleared AND he says he's good to go you gotta let the guy play.

he's not an idiot. he knows what he's doing and risking.

igdaf if some trainer cleared him. idgaf how healthy HE claimed he was.

every report on the sunday practice said that it didn't go well and that he barely even spent any time on the floor. nothing full speed. nothing with contact.

he rushed back, because of the stakes involved. if it was january he wouldn't be playing. he wasn't fully healed, and now he's reaggravated the injury.

he shouldn't have been out there.

he wasn't fully healed, and
>now he's reaggravated the injury.

That’s really gonna cost them in the next round.

>he shouldn't have been out there.

He has all offseason to recover.

unlike T.O., who had none. I hope he doesn't have an achilles injury, he could be like Boogie is now.

on the upside he could stay right in GS and just recover there. but would he want to after this

.

They get by on talent but any other team that plays this stupid when it comes to turnovers would get eviscerated. The coach would be the first to go.

needless techs, etc.

all in an elimination game smh.

these are things any other top tier coach is chewing their team out for and clearing up in the regular season.

curry is a decade into his career and still doing this dumb shit.

.

wanted to give it a go because he probably worried people would say he “quit” on his team

as forthcoming with the seriousness of his injury to begin with.

The hot takes about his ulterior motives really are bs.

>The hot takes about his ulterior motives really are bs.

Not saying he wasn’t, but that wasn’t much different than any other injured teammate would’ve done in the playoffs. They media just hyped it because it was Kevin Durant.

Obviously KD wanted to finish the job with this team this season regardless of what he does this offseason but he doesn’t want to put that future in jeopardy too.

We’ve seen from the fake twitter accounts and other stuff that he’s sensitive to what people think about him.

And stayed quiet when it was clear they needed him.

The media silence for the last month showed he’s been focused on getting back to help the team rather than trying to burnish his image.

He really didn't stay quiet.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26815513/kd-disputes-idea-warriors-better-him

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Golden State Warriors superstar Kevin Durant said he is "doing better every day" but acknowledged that he isn't sure when he'll be able to return as he continues to recover from a strained right calf.

"Speaking to reporters for the first time since he suffered the injury on May 8, Durant also addressed the idea that the team plays better without him -- "that's not facts" -- and the way some still don't see him as part of the Warriors' collective group."

"As a player, I think about that -- I'm just like, that's not true. That's not facts when it comes from a basketball perspective. The competitive side of me -- I also like to talk basketball as well -- so if you're going to say something like that, I'm going to engage in it. So it's all fun, it's all cool, but I know the real."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kevin-durant-responds-to-critics-saying-warriors-are-better-without-him/ar-AABykR4

Like he does often, KD took to social media as a way to counter the critics. His response was rather simple.

“Hell no.” As noted above, that’s about as simple as it gets.

He said his piece and moved on.

Feel really shitty for KD. He gutted it out like a soldier.

in the history of sports. Kawhi is a "system" player compared to KD.

even though he only played maybe 10 minutes if that

stop in front of you and make you run into the back of me foul...only after CP3.

https://twitter.com/COED/status/1138271008484450305
whatever it is he gonna be out for a minute.

He should have never played, clearly. But I don’t think it’s an achilles.

Gotta take the calf, though. He played that off way too easy for an achilles, and he was putting weight on it. Then again, he was reaching for the ankle...



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With GSW, he's probably earned himself a nice check. And I believe Kerr recently said that Looney is a "foundational piece" for them. The GM has a problem on his hands.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/kevon-looney-reacts-steve-kerr-calling-him-foundational-piece

win or lose. just executing on offense. no dumb ass decision or hero ball.

you gotta put em away. they aint putting themselves away (like dubs do).

good thing that went in.

play through.

curry sulking and giving up when he doesnt get the call carries over to the rest of the team.

.

.

now they not dropping and there's no one to really be a "shot maker" without KD.

and i'll take this time to re-iterate that COULD be Klay as he can get around guys and pull up off the dribble. he just doesn't do it enough.

fire ALL refs.

.

Like, you waste two possessions— JUST TWO!— and you’ve fucked yourself.

they ain't going into that long dark night quietly, that's for sure.

Up 6 with the ball, all the momentum and GS scrambling and unraveling and they take a timeout.

All Warriors since.

We know Casey would’ve.

Its pretty obvious

.

And Nurse does it for them.

They regrouped and smothered Kawhi every single possession after that. They were lost and he was locked in before that.

They better talk about it.

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http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

his effort in most of the finals is unforgiveable.

why would other players go all out and play hard when your leader plays like its not important?

oof.

Might doom them.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see a blow out by GS in game 6

with turnovers and lack of offense with certain lineups...they will leave toronto in every game regardless of how the raps play.

The Raptors didn't play well on both ends of the floor & only lost one quarter (two of them were ties). They have basically been winning 3 of 4 throughout the series & that was what the difference tonight,

he proved his point.

I'm mad I'll be working when this series ends on Thursday.


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Lowry gonna have 3 fouls in the first 5 minutes.

>Lowry gonna have 3 fouls in the first 5 minutes.

two days off will hopefully mean boogie is re-charged because even though he was a liability on perimeter D he did contribute some MAJOR buckets and post defense.

no looney though. and let's not forget KD did score 11 of their points.

Pyrrhic victory. KD shouldn't have been back, but he DID help when he was there, so there's that

Raptors are all grit and glee.

And LOL @ some of those offensive sets at the end of
the 4th.

I think Dubs blow them out game 6.

Dubs are still far better team

They don't belong on the same court as the Warriors

Derozan was the BEST player on Toronto and a multi
year all-star.

How's he doing in the West? Third best player on a
contender, probably. Second best on a playoff team.



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

in obscurity

Still, when it like we cooked, we came charging back. Steph was clutch at the end. Him and Klay balled out, even with a sloppy second half. And good D on Kawhi at the end.

One thing I’ll say is that I’m happy that we get one last game in Oakland.

But yeah, still feel awful for KD.

Otherwise, fuck Toronto fans.

give it go and he did. Now that there’s a game 6 Thursday was that a smart decision? Did losing him help the Warriors rally? Can they “win it for K”?

Is this how Steph finally gets his Finals MVP?

just sit out the entire series? or pray that the series is extended and he can come back in game 6 or 7?

what is your play here?

> lor pray that the series is
>extended and he can come back in game 6 or 7?

KD and the team knew there was a risk that he could re-injure his calf. No one thought the achilles would be at risk.

The whole thing sucks, and we can look back at it with 20/20 vision and say he shouldn't have been out there. Been Klay, Cosuins, and Iggy have all been playing hurt knowing that they could reaggravate any of their previous injury. I can't blame KD for wanting to follow suit as soon as he possibly could.

Steph and Klay handled their business.

Bob Meyers is out in the press conference, bawling.

achilles injury for durant.

damn

Bob Myers is crying at the podium

wow

So he’ll stay another year but they’re probably squarely back in the luxury tax once they pay Klay.

I think the core stays the same but they’re going to need to find some more effective but still cheap role players to contribute.

Second, yes, Myers will very much sign him. I'm sure everyone on the team and the organization would be happy to let Durant sit out a year if it means keeping him in the long term.

doctor, agent, team. coach

somebody.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

injury before.

i guess that's the best it could have been handled, though. 'the buck stops here'.

praying that KD recovers fully.

that was so hard to watch. damn.


peace & blessings,

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

I'm not a doctor, and they obviously haven't done that MRI to determine the extent of the injury, but I gotta think it'll be a while. Then again, Cousins came back in less than a year. So I imagine, absolute best case scenario, he opts in to his second year (and the sign him to an extension in the off-season) and he's back by the play-offs. But he could just sit out for the entire season and I wouldn't be mad at him.

a year of rehab and having somebody actually needing you to contribute right away. he won't be right his first year back.

people CAN come back from that, now, but that's still a very very hard recovery.


peace & blessings,

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not having much to show for it. (c) mad

the fact that dude (and the team) is still so careless with the rock even after that is an indictment of him/kerr.

this shit is really bugging me lol.

please don't forget that Dubs won by ONE and KD had 11 before the injury.

do they make up that 11 somewhere else? probably not.

so, was it worth it? you'd have to ask KD. they won the game and they likely don't w/out him. now, if this pushes them to win the SERIES?

KD might feel like it was worth it for that additional ring. i mean, we all hear what kind of a "different guy" KD is.

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all of this to force a game 6. and without KD it does appear that Toronto doesn't spend most of the game digging out of a hole that he helped make.

Slamming people for not treating players like actual people.

People questioning KD's heart: "Fuck 'em."

Toronto fans cheering KD's injury: "Trash."

He just gave the defending champs time to regroup.

It clearly helped them more than Toronto.

Toronto does not deserve to win this series.

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and Toronto was on a 10-0 run and scoring every time.

Notice out of that timeout they put Green on Kawhi initially, and then had Thompson switch onto him. Think they might’ve schemed that up during the timeout?

That was the very definition of overcoaching. Have some feel for the game.

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Over coached to under coached in 5 minutes.

could damn near two miles during a game and still have the wherwithal to hit crucial shots down the strecth. No excuses for dumb turnowver but damn...

Some of y'all act like the dude ain't balled the fugg out in the last five years. A ton of other PGs (players for that matter) wish they coudl do what he's doing and has done. But keep cookin...

2019 Playoffs:
28.5 PPG
6.1 RBG
5.7 APG
1 SPG
3.0 TOV

Edit:
Sad that one has to knock one person just to boost another. Why can't they both be great at what they do? Steph and KD are asked to do different things. Both do them better than almost anyone ever who's played their same position. One is the greatest shooting PG guard (and player) we've ever seen while the other is legit top three all-time SF because of his scoring prowess and presence.

>could damn near two miles during a game and still have the
>wherwithal to hit crucial shots down the strecth. No excuses
>for dumb turnowver but damn...
>
>Some of y'all act like the dude ain't balled the fugg out in
>the last five years. A ton of other PGs (players for that
>matter) wish they coudl do what he's doing and has done. But
>keep cookin...
>
>2019 Playoffs:
>28.5 PPG
>6.1 RBG
>5.7 APG
>1 SPG
>3.0 TOV
>
>Edit:
>Sad that one has to knock one person just to boost another.
>Why can't they both be great at what they do? Steph and KD are
>asked to do different things. Both do them better than almost
>anyone ever who's played their same position. One is the
>greatest shooting PG guard (and player) we've ever seen while
>the other is legit top three all-time SF because of his
>scoring prowess and presence.
>
>

Maybe I’m watching with biased goggles on but I see Klay balling and saving the dubs as much as if not more than Curry. And he’s playing adult defense regularly. And I don’t see nearly as many ‘get benched’ turnovers.

Also, Kyle Lowry’s a ho and whatever their idiot coach said during that horrible timeout must’ve shaken him to his core. He missed two good looks. The first one? Dude was La fitness pickup game open. I flipped over a chair when he hit the side of the backboard on that last shot.

And duh, the KD thing sux.

>Maybe I’m watching with biased goggles on but I see Klay
>balling and saving the dubs as much as if not more than Curry.
>And he’s playing adult defense regularly. And I don’t see
>nearly as many ‘get benched’ turnovers.
>

he's not ballin'. Klay is most certainly doing his thing and is extremely valuable to all they have going. Klay doesn't catch the hell that Steph does. Not at all.

>Also, Kyle Lowry’s a ho and whatever their idiot coach said
>during that horrible timeout must’ve shaken him to his core.
>He missed two good looks. The first one? Dude was La fitness
>pickup game open. I flipped over a chair when he hit the side
>of the backboard on that last shot.
>
LOL... Lowry came back to who he is. The big shots he was hitting earlier didn't matter in the end because, as you alluded to, he shit the bed when it really counted. LOL

late in games.

Not last second shots either.

Just late game shots.

Dude was so shook.

this reminded me of Game 2 a lot. Raptors missed a lot of wide open 3s while Dubs made nearly all of theirs. I think it evens up a bit in Game 6 and Raptors win but we shall see. Even tho I want Dubs to eventually lose, its been fun so Im glad we got more games.

Not sure about the disparity by you had GS bricking like crazy but staying alive because they were in the bonus early in the first half.

Definitely should not have been playing without practicing

1 on 1 is not an nba finals game

Ls all around.

i thought it was the Achilles all along anfd GS was just keeping it low.

Made in healthcare resources and imaging modalities

An mri will tell you where the calf strain/tear is, its severity and the potential risk of rupturing the Achilles

This happened after no activity for 5 weeks

I’m going to assume that was never a calf strain.

You’re following the logic that because the calf muscles attach to bone via the Achilles...

...an injury to the calf compromises the Achilles...

But it’s actually the opposite

A calf strain/tear actually releaves some of the tension on the tendon because you’re not exerting the full force on it

The organization stated the worse case scenario they hypothesized was straining or tearing the calf further

Achilles was never considered

Think about it

These dudes run and jump for a living

If every calf strain could potentially rupture an Achilles...I think we would see it more.

Either it was misdiagnosed...or they’re feeding us a line of bullshit

I have no interest in baseball.

Maybe KD knew the risks and still decided to play. Maybe what Myers said about the staff working with KD for four weeks and then clearing him after watching him practice and attend shootarounds is accurate. Again, maybe KD knew the risks and still decided to play.

We're very quick to blame without recognizing that man has his own mind and did what he wanted to do regardless of what caused him to do it. We piss and moan about personal accountability, in other instances, but are quick to blame someone else when a grown-up makes their own decision.

I'm seeing it here and in the media. It's weird to blame someone else for what that grown man decided to do. The fact that he put it on the line, after presumably knowing the risks, is admirable and damned respectable.

He, literally, put it all on the line to help his team win. He was very well-compensated prior this injury and will continue to be so as a result of this. I'm wishing the brother brother great health and peace of mind. And I'm hopeful that the folks who cleared him to play will be free from any guilt about what's transpired.

The Warriors are absolutely to blame for this. Myers and Kerr can come out all they want and try to run that game about the doctors and the "testing" and what not but he didn't even go through a full practice. This isn't the type of injury you don't practice with and then try to go full speed.

I told my buddy that if he comes back without that calf fully healed he will tear his Achilles almost 100% because of how long he is. Once there is no give in that muscle the only thing that can happen is that Achilles rupture with that much torque on it.

It's not like you can just tell the guy to go half speed or try and control his minutes hoping he will just spot up and not go hard. Once he was in the flow of the game that was a wrap. He was going to try to take someone off the dribble.

This is a travesty all around for Golden State.

Agendas aside. Hot takes. Whatever. Legacy. They are a loaded team even without him. You don't take the risk. It's not worth it. Even if you lose the Finals you don't do it. He may never be the same player again. We don't know. It's a damn shame.

Was he forced to play or did he choose to play?

I dunno. That's where I'm at with it.

I just wish the brother a speedy recovery and to be in great overall health again much sooner than later.

Tough decision and repercussions for everyone involved.

I just don't think it's all on the organization. Kawhi sat a whole year because he chose to despite what the Spurs' staff said.

Either way... I hope the dude comes back better than ever.

They knew damn well he wasn’t ready.

We all knew it.

Sometimes you have to save an athlete from himself.

He's got an agent and family for that.

KD and Rich Kleiman are tactical as fuck.

if they thought KD couldn't play, he wouldn't have.

they obviously thought the risk/reward ratio was good enough.

KD and Rich (especially Rich) aren't gonna let the Warriors BULLY KD into playing.

hate does some weird things

The team’s unofficial policy has long been “Wait until the guy is healthy and then sit him one or two more games.” Even during the play offs

Shoot, after getting hurt during the Rockets series last season, Iggy sat for almost the rest of the play offs, long after he’d been medically “cleared” to play.

instead change the subject to ... the owner pushing Lowry


But I get it thoough... These cats were chomping at the bit for us to slip up.. even if perceived



because everything has been run PERFECTLY so far and i'd be mad too

They like idea that KD told the team that he wanted to play and Bob Myers and Lacob is responded “Duh! What took you so long!” Even if it has no basis in reality.

The Warriors worked closely with KD’s personal doctor, who he’d consulted to get a second opinion.

They even worked with KD’s business partner/manager/agent, who’s job is to put KD first.

All the medical professionals, including the ones that KD was personally paying, believed the worst thing that could happen was that he’d retweak his calf.

Now, of course, everyone was wrong. And hindsight 20/20, everyone is saying that the definitely should have kept him out. But they all decided at the time that it was worth the risk.

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This is a fantastic series..
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what a strange turn of events

no player has ever come back the same from an achilles

but this is some bullshit.

I'm not the biggest fan of the guy but no one wanted to see this. The Warriors organization should be ashamed of themselves for this shit. They should have made sure he didn't play until he showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that he could go hard. The Finals is too intense of a situation to try and ease a player like that back into. The stakes are too high. You are asking for exactly what happened if you put him out there like that.

It doesn't sound like he pushed it far enough to even know beforehand. Game speed, especially in a Finals game is much different than a practice......especially if he's aware where his body is at that point. If he took some dribble moves to see where it's at and felt a tug then probably shoulda shut it down. I've had an achilles injury. I have one that is slightly damaged one now and trust me......you know when you take a wrong step to pick your foot up IMMEDIATELY.

He would have ruptured it in practice.

The intensity is different....your body knows when it's really on and when it's for play play. He could have eased into it and eventually tried to go half speed and then ramp up but there's no reason he would have had to do anything to rupture it in practice and if anyone feels like that's the case then why the hell would you go hard the first time on the floor in the fuckin game from 0-100.

It doesn't sound like he pushed it far enough to even know beforehand

You are assuming that he went harder in the game than in practice. And that he shoulda tested it our properly in practice. Meaning what? Go as hard as he did during the gsme as in practice. How else can you properly test it?

Which means it would be the ssme likelihood of rupture in game or practice.

..so much drama, not enough time.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Finals we've had in a while for multiple reasons.

Some folks are too blinkered to see clearly that it's a great series.

my sisters were talking about the series in group chat and they never really care that much about basketball.

..this finals has EVERYTHING!

From Injuries to incredible shots at the buzzer.

Hell, the starting line ups keep changing every game.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

https://streamable.com/p93kr

Bob Myers up there doing that fake ass crying because he was probably one of main people encouraging KD to play.

not the warriors specifically - the same team who sat one of their future HOFers a few games ago

same team who had Loony on the floor?

They sat Klay one game. Not the series.

aren't we talking about whether or not GS rushes players to come back?


the helll does some random idiot have to do with all this lol



fact is they sat Klay, who looked very unhappy about it all game, to protect his health


Yet push everyone else to come back early i guess


Klay is the exception

>fact is they sat Klay, who looked very unhappy about it all
>game, to protect his health

they sat him for 1 game the "protect his health" so he could come back and play the rest of the series, they didn't give a fuck about his free agency future or his unhappiness. At the end it the day its a business to pretend otherwise is comical lol.

But it’s an interesting argument that GS is this evil organization who rushes players back from injury too soon

When just a few games ago they sat a miserable looking Klay against his will


You typing “protect his health” in quotes felt good im sure. But doesn’t take away from facts unfortunately

Some are saying we rushed back KD. But the track record of this team and players recovering from injury suggests otherwise

Most recent example of that is Klay. Who they sat against his will

just scroll up

Owners are trash and the GM’s fake tears are hilarious.

He prolly leaked the info on teammates being salty with KD over the status of his injury.

I respect it

Confused by it kinda. Cuz This ain’t usually how you roll in GD

I’m an equal opportunity dynasty hater. Bulls, Pats, Lakers, GS...

But that doesn’t mean I’m not rational when it comes to KD coming back too early.

GS shoulda never let that man on the court. He may never return to being the player he once was over selfishness by this franchise.

GS does get some of the blame here. But I also think there’s a larger argument to be made about sports culture here

gut it out and be a man etc

End of story, man.

There is no reason they should have cleared him.


If you want to blame sports culture first? Okay. Go for it.


But the GS staff needs to protect their player from that culture then.

Especially when the organization already has 3 chips. The fuck they risking KD's entire future for a 4th?


The best case scenario here for GS is that it was KD who pushed to come back on his own, and they didn't stop him.

Even that scenario makes the organization look bad.


And the fact that they sat Klay for one game doesn't erase the fact that they should have sat KD for more.


You can be a GS fan and question Meyer, Kerr, etc.

And to Legs point, you can be rational here and recognize this is on GS...and not be a "hater"

>
>And the fact that they sat Klay for one game doesn't erase the
>fact that they should have sat KD for more.
>


Thank you for at least addressing my point about Klay


cuz everyone else keeps changing the subject to .... our rich white part owner lol


It doesn't erase that KD should have sat, but it pionts to a track record of this team with how they treat injured players

>same team who had Loony on the floor?
>
>They sat Klay one game. Not the series.

The fact that warriors fans are trying to deflect blame is hilariously pathetic


>Bob Myers up there doing that fake ass crying because he was
>probably one of main people encouraging KD to play.

All a sudden KD is ready to go

injuries affect guys differently it turns out

It has nothing to do with how serious KD was injured prior to game 5.

He was rushed and don’t tell me the leak about the team being upset with KD’s progress wasn’t done to push him to play.

Kerr, Meyer, whoever.

Its legit weird to see.


I was a Bulls fan back in the day, but I fucking hated the Jerrys.


This isn't hard. Either they a)rushed him back or b)didn't stop him from himself like they should have.

Weather those tears were real, fake, guilt-fueled, or something else...it doesn't matter.

This is on the Warriors.

Want to blame sports culture too? Okay. Sure.


But its on the Warriors. You know, the team who also had an owner literally push another player.

Dudes need to realize you can be the biggest GS fan on earth and still question/criticize the coach/trainer/GM/owner.

This isn't hard. At all.

>
>Kerr, Meyer, whoever.
>
>Its legit weird to see.
>
>
>I was a Bulls fan back in the day, but I fucking hated the
>Jerrys.
>
>
>This isn't hard. Either they a)rushed him back or b)didn't
>stop him from himself like they should have.
>
>Weather those tears were real, fake, guilt-fueled, or
>something else...it doesn't matter.
>
>This is on the Warriors.
>
>Want to blame sports culture too? Okay. Sure.
>
>
>But its on the Warriors. You know, the team who also had an
>owner literally push another player.
>
>Dudes need to realize you can be the biggest GS fan on earth
>and still question/criticize the coach/trainer/GM/owner.
>
>This isn't hard. At all.

Yeah imma steer clear

My life has gone terribly :(

.

but that's beneath me now

congrats on the progress

and trying to get my attention?


last time I was in a Buckeyes post ....


I'll wait

Do you understand? Is that too complicated for you??


>and trying to get my attention?
>
>
>last time I was in a Buckeyes post ....
>
>
>I'll wait

I get it tho

You are a super fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7vQSPBtwyc

/

I got it now...


my third eye open now fam

Is definitely related to the Dubs pushing KD back

Connecting all dots I see


And again, if they rush players back why did they sit Klay?

Mo one can address that

>Is definitely related to the Dubs pushing KD back
>
>Connecting all dots I see

Its about as related as KD and Klay's injury situations lol

>And again, if they rush players back why did they sit Klay?
>
>Mo one can address that

>
>Kerr, Meyer, whoever.
>
>Its legit weird to see.
>
>
>I was a Bulls fan back in the day, but I fucking hated the
>Jerrys.
>
>
>This isn't hard. Either they a)rushed him back or b)didn't
>stop him from himself like they should have.
>
>Weather those tears were real, fake, guilt-fueled, or
>something else...it doesn't matter.
>
>This is on the Warriors.
>
>Want to blame sports culture too? Okay. Sure.
>
>
>But its on the Warriors. You know, the team who also had an
>owner literally push another player.
>
>Dudes need to realize you can be the biggest GS fan on earth
>and still question/criticize the coach/trainer/GM/owner.
>
>This isn't hard. At all.

.

And every player's situation is different.

First, it's the finals... players are going to be willing to take crazy risks at this point to win a championship. I.T. WILLINGLY jeopardized the rest of his career for the conference finals. What do you think most players would do if they're within 4 wins of a ring?

The coaches and GMs are probably pushing people to play back in Jan and Feb, but now? The players will push themselves (which IS dangerous bc nobody is focused on the players long term health anymore).

Also, KD's pockets are straight and he's already a future HOF-er. He can risk losing a year to injury and a diminished career from here and not affect any of that. Worst case, he's not going to reach some all-time records and his argument for "GOAT" status will be weaker. Compared to winning another ring with this group and further etching his name into league history, the risk seemed reasonable (for him).

If Looney had had the same injury, he'd have been watching from home bc he's still at the beginning of his career and has alot left to earn.

>Also, KD's pockets are straight and he's already a future
>HOF-er. He can risk losing a year to injury and a diminished
>career from here and not affect any of that. Worst case, he's
>not going to reach some all-time records and his argument for
>"GOAT" status will be weaker. Compared to winning another ring
>with this group and further etching his name into league
>history, the risk seemed reasonable (for him).

nobody wants to lose a year+ of their career in their prime, its not like KD doesn't already have 2 rings and 2 Finals MVP trophies.

... KD has 2* rings, and 2* Finals MVPs, there was no need to T.O. his way to this injury. so he ain't going out ringless regardless of what happens next. now we're here.

Now maybe he is all about winning but I think this was more so about he media leaking that internal frustration rumor and how everyone dogs him out for going to GS

Even if it’s just about being a competitor they needed to shit his ass down

Grip of scoring chips
MVP
Back to back chips and finals mvps

The issue IMO... is the idea he NEEDS to do more

He doesn’t.

He wanted more and made a stupid gamble.

And like rich people don't go bankrupt in the process sometimes

>nobody wants to lose a year+ of their career in their prime,
>its not like KD doesn't already have 2 rings and 2 Finals MVP
>trophies.


How many players on his level do you know that would be content with 2 when a 3rd was in reach and they could do something to help get it?

He didn't want to miss a year but he felt it was worth the risk to get another ring. A bad bet on his part but many other players would do the same in his position.

.

ive never seen anyone ice *during* a game (that planned on playing again).

i thought you were supposed to keep things warm and active while playing (heating pad, exercise bike, etc).

icing makes things contract and tighten right?

Yes, cold contracts

But, given a knee injury, the related swelling could result in discomfort and pain...along with structural issues given too much swelling

The ice is to resolve the swelling...but to your point

If KD was cleared, why is his leg swelling after a couple of minutes

Also, there's this gem from Mamba

https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/3/31/11335880/kobe-bryant-final-season-get-the-man-some-ice

being applied during games. He was over the swelling...he used heat to avoid stiffness and keep the blood flowing.

icing someone down in the middle of a game and sending them back out there seems counter-intuitive.

during normal rotations. In fact, when he got into it with racist, Utah dude he had heat wraps on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM3NEjchiS8

Everyone involved got excited by being so close and thought he was good to go.

He got hurt instead. Now everyone involved is sad.

If he doesn't get hurt, this is like a million stories we all grew up listening to about heroic moments in Finals/Superbowls/whatever-the-fuck.


It's sports.


Lots of real shady shit goes on with injuries in professional sports but I'm not seeing it here.

Smh at folks acting like this is normal.

It’s not. We’ve seen players get hurt and play thru it in the same game but coming back after sitting for only 4 weeks after a horrible workout that most folks said didn’t go well.

Nah... This ain’t some “people get hurt in sports” type situation.

A whole season gone over a dumb ass desperate decision.

literally up until the day before the last game was


you know who you are

I thought going to Golden State was a ho decision and I still do. The guy is an incredible basketball player. Top 10.

But to go to this level of desperation.....both by going to Golden State and then playing through what we can see now is an injury he had no business trying to play through and that the Warriors should have stopped him from playing through.....is wack.

This is as bad as Grant Hill playing on a broken ankle and losing 3 plus seasons of his career to show Detroit fans that he was "tough". Then he left anyway and was decent enough to do the sign and trade that eventually helped Detroit win a title. It was a terrible look for the Pistons to let him play too. Teams will do this shit more times than not.

Durant opened his Players Tribune piece when he signed there as "My New Challenge". Yeah these guys have almost no self awareness. He was surprised that even after 2 Finals MVPs and titles that people were putting an asterisk on the shit. That's probably not fair but it is what it is. The look is terrible. You either accept it and make peace or not.

The fact that he feels that he probably has to leave Golden State rather than stay to show he can lead his "own" team goes against every reason for going there in the first place.

If winning titles is enough then just own it and stay.

This new era of dudes are so shook.

>The fact that he feels that he probably has to leave Golden
>State rather than stay to show he can lead his "own" team goes
>against every reason for going there in the first place.
>

He already had his “own” team in OKC lol

It's pretty obvious that is the case. Just like it was "speculation" that he had a achilles injury. GTFOH.

over a worse job is a ho. The fuck I want to develop for Apple when I can stay at Geek Squad. #ManUp

Again, having a much harder time being into it after the last game, but I am pretty bummed that this is the final game in Oracle. Had hoped that final game here would end with a Warriors championship, but... yeah.

I really hope they find a way to extend this. It would really suck for the Warriors to lose all three home games in the Finals.

If the Warriors are going to have any chance, both the Splash Bros. gotta be huge, again. And then they gotta come up with another 30 or so points from either one player or a tandem of a few. So I don't know if that means Cousins needs a huge game, or Iggy has to hit 4 to 5 three and Jerebko kicks in another 15, but the remaining offense has to come from somewhere.

Just one game at a time.

seriously tho...if dubs get swept at home by toronto for the season and finals...smh.

But oddly, in 4/5 games - the road team has won. Has that ever happened in the finals before? So strange. Both teams have won 2 away games which is...insane.

He's been taking a beating these playoffs.

Allowing Kawhi to ease up on that end and focus his energy defending Klay

Although it's weird it feels like Steph has BARELY touched the damn ball. Cmon man, you're a 2x MVP.

it seems like he might be their most consistent player (with kd out).

such a difference from when he used to go cold/missing for multiple games.

Can he resist making dumb mistakes tho?

fucking hate that lazy shit and I think it truly separates the contenders from the pretenders. shit made the regular season difficult to watch.

Meanwhile, Kawhi only has 5 points more than Marc. Lowry needs help.

>Meanwhile, Kawhi only has 5 points more than Marc. Lowry
>needs help.

Ibaka knows what to do when he get the rock with nobody within 5ft of him......

.

Also, the adjustments by Kerr to keep us in this and exploit their over aggressiveness on Splash bros is incredible


HOF coach

Anybody got the live feed to Jurassic Park tho?

.

This sucks

Luckily for them, you still get a ring for that.

(Parker also blew out his quad in the 2nd rd just like Snake)

Kawhi rolled the same ankle 2x in the HOU series
before seeing the Dubs in the conf finals.
There was concern that he might not play in the
Close out game.

What about the 2014 Warriors? A win is a win.

.

>

.

.

..unbelievable.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

"Y'all sure y'all wanna do this?"

I honestly thought they were gonna try to get Iggy the shot as weird as that may sound.

also, they only need a two to win the game so...i dunno. seems like maybe you run something different.

what a boost. congrats raptors!

with their star players dropping like flies and all.

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Fuck the haters that are coming. Y'all earned this.

KING OF THE NORTH

saved them tonight

can't believe he wasn't drafted

i could've sworn he was a 2nd rounder

Can’t really say much beyond that. Klay was clutch until he got hurt. Iggy came up when he should. Steph eventually found... something. Although he was extremely inconsistent. Just too many missed shots and dumb mistakes.

Congrats to the Raptors. I might not like Toronto fans. I might not like Drake. But I’ve got nothing against the Raptors as a team. Great organization and players.

That’s it. Warriors aren’t going anywhere.

respect.

hope kawhi stay and this becomes an every year thing, now.

tough ass team and they kept fighting all the way.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

>tough ass team and they kept fighting all the way.

you could say the same with the Warriors.

both of their wins were won by what... less than 6 points?

and losing both KD (for a year), and Klay (in an elimination game, after he dropped 30). with Looney all the way fucked up.... and those motherfuckers were only down 1 with 0.9 seconds on the clock for the game?

Lucky Horseshoe is only buried. It will be unearthed, as everyone stays at a discount... the bench gets rebuilt and I'll be back to cussing them out again like they're the '90s Cowboys.

didn't want shut up Doris Burke had to cut him off lol

Much rather Kawhi flourish rather than wasting his prime w/ Softridge & Fatty Mills.

.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

DISRESPECTFUL.

did it autofill?

she usually on point but not tonight.

..and their fans.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1139381622174732288

Hubie Brown voted for Vanvleet

.

I hope they never have her on the podium again. She let the suits talk way too long.

Fuck.

They really went all out.

So fucked.

.

you can cancel free agency this year. GS is keeping everyone, possibly at a discount. we'll get to see if they're the Spurs or not.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2698660&mesg_id=2698660&page=#2698756

and I said that before Klay tore his ACL.



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

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https://twitter.com/kylekuzma/status/1139379393854226434

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..smh

No excuse for this. Its not gulag worthy, but he definitely needs to be checked.

Hopefully he's smart enough to grow from this.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

for a game 7.

how much of him hopping around trying to get back into the game made matters worse.

Such a great game, Toronto really pulled it together when they had to in the 4th.

And shoutout to Jamaal Magloire too!

Congrats Raps.

Started from the bottom now you're here.

Many talking heads are saying that he was brought in and got it done; and thus it was a smart decision. So...

- Trading to get a top 5 player didn't have anything to do with it?
- LeBron leaving to go to the west didn't have anything to do with it?

I actually thought down the stretch of games Nurse didn't do a very good job. Some of his late game offensive sets were odd.

Props to the Raptors but I think we need to pump the breaks.

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>Many talking heads are saying that he was brought in and got
>it done; and thus it was a smart decision. So...
>
>- Trading to get a top 5 player didn't have anything to do
>with it?
>- LeBron leaving to go to the west didn't have anything to do
>with it?
>
>I actually thought down the stretch of games Nurse didn't do a
>very good job. Some of his late game offensive sets were odd.
>
>
>Props to the Raptors but I think we need to pump the breaks.

Moving to a zone when it was just Curry out there at times did slow the Warriors down for stretches. It's a move that I think many coaches would be too proud to make.

Also, pushing the pace against the Warriors (which has generally been the thing NOT to do against them during tis stretch) also paid dividends since they lacked their usual firepower. It probably worked best in Game 4 when Curry looked gassed just two nights after putting up 47.

Nurse isn't a genius but you can at least attribute some of their success to decisions he made. He damn sure would've taken the blame for some of those momentum-robbing timeouts if they'd eventually lost the series.

And yeah, I would've liked to see Casey coach these players without having to go through LeBron. I'm somewhat re-assured by the fact another black man made the move but of course that's no guarantee Ujiri didn't think that Nurse's coaching was colder just because he was white.

Casey was a great coach. But Nurse adjusts on the fly and Casey didn't. He was amazing this year. The city still loved Casey but he made bad decisions when it mattered. And as much as Nurse was consistently great he made a bad choice in game 5 with that time out and we let him know that. FOH with that shit. This board always picking and choosing when coaching matters for whatever the agenda is. SMH. If its superstars then coaching doesnt matter. If its underachievers then coaching matters. smh


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Kerr, Lue and Nurse...?

IMO, it’s more about the message it sends to the team

I’m confident Casey would have done just as well

I thought Nurse blew game 5 by benching Siakim and leaving Lowry, Green and Fred on the floor in the 4th

Never understood coaches trying to make examples/send a message to players in the offs...

But anyway, yeah, everything you pointed out is valid

I don’t see his impact being more than the context.

Sure he fucked up game 5 but dude built the wall vs the Greek.

He pushed the pace vs the Warriors.

He played a janky D in 2 games and it caused GS fits. He killed most of GS’s runs with time outs that other coaches don’t seem to use for some reason when GS gets hot.

Sure, he has Kawhi but he didn’t fuck it up. Pretty sure no one on here had the Raptors winning it all when the playoffs started.

>Sure, he has Kawhi but he didn’t fuck it up. Pretty sure no
>one on here had the Raptors winning it all when the playoffs
>started.

they were the best team for most of the regular season especially when you factor in that Kawhi only played in like 60 games.

And if the Warriors are 100% they still destroyed in the Finals.

but yes I did have them coming out of the East.

of the east.

https://twitter.com/tonydeltt/status/1139532145486155777?s=21

Now that he's on the losing end, the take is still correct.

Reeq will enjoy this, lol
https://twitter.com/CSchmid01/status/1139380110153224193

https://imgur.com/a/10tJR7a