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2696182, WCF - Warriors vs. Trailblazers: Blow The Whistle
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-14-19 08:16 PM
2696191, LMAO @ the Blazers sagging on Curry
Posted by FILF, Tue May-14-19 09:07 PM
2696195, blazers sure giving up a ton of open looks
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue May-14-19 09:31 PM
2696200, Blazers right back
Posted by Beezo, Tue May-14-19 09:51 PM
2696203, How are the Blazers this sloppy and still in it?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue May-14-19 09:58 PM
2696208, The Warriors keep playing D like this, and they’ll be tough to beat
Posted by mrhood75, Tue May-14-19 10:39 PM
Shut their back court down.

And offensively, just too much Splash Brothers. Good contributions from the bench too. Livingston is really turning things around after a tough regular season and beginning of the play offs.
2696212, Suffocating defense. And the tempo obviously suits us
Posted by Amritsar, Tue May-14-19 10:47 PM
2696308, Mike Brown is one of the best defensive coaches ever.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-15-19 02:42 PM

He's been unreal.
2696211, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xfBw1bbV4k
Posted by FILF, Tue May-14-19 10:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xfBw1bbV4k
2696213, Kerr went 11 deep
Posted by Amritsar, Tue May-14-19 10:49 PM
In inches and with his rotations
2696214, I was shocked when Jones got in the game at the end.
Posted by mrhood75, Tue May-14-19 11:08 PM
I legit hadn’t heard that he was getting healthy.
2696229, i kinda hate kd for diminishing stephs greatness.
Posted by Reeq, Wed May-15-19 05:00 AM
i seriously hope he stays out for the rest of the playoffs and leaves this summer.

i love watching this team when steph has the keys to the offense.
2696231, But KD has bailed them out in the finals
Posted by The Real, Wed May-15-19 05:44 AM
More than once.

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2696235, bailed them out of offensive stagnation hes partly responsible for.
Posted by Reeq, Wed May-15-19 07:04 AM
clearly the rest of the team is more in sync when he isnt on the floor. theyre like 30-1 with him out and steph in at this point.

either way...him bailing them out is even more reason to wanna see him leave. let the law of gravity apply to them again like every other team instead of having that convenient parachute.
2696299, they both neutralized each other's greatness a bit
Posted by Vex_id, Wed May-15-19 01:19 PM
and I'm here for that.

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2696233, Get the brooms out
Posted by guru0509, Wed May-15-19 06:28 AM
2696239, western conference elitists need to answer for the blazers
Posted by bshelly, Wed May-15-19 07:27 AM
given that 3-4 teams in the east could arguably handle this blazers team, it's a bad look that they made the conference finals.
2696260, you need to find peace in your heart for the way your season ended
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed May-15-19 10:27 AM
because there arent 3-4 east teams capable of winning a game 7 in denver

cmon lol
2696291, They played the mediocre Thunder and Jokic missed FTs.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed May-15-19 12:54 PM
2696295, western conference elitists
Posted by Amritsar, Wed May-15-19 01:03 PM
2696329, The Blazers are prettttay good.
Posted by khn, Wed May-15-19 04:54 PM
I don't know what more they have to do to prove it at this point.
2696432, wont get two shot clock violations in a row w/ the game on the line
Posted by DJR, Thu May-16-19 08:44 PM
I know that much.

Out there with your “PG” standing out of the way, Embiid setting screens 27 feet from the hoop and Jimmy Butler dribbling around trying to be a creator. FOH. Dame and CJ would both eat that shit up and create a bucket.
2696259, To be honest: GS sans KD maybe loses to GS w/KD in a close 7-game series
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-15-19 10:24 AM

I'm not entirely convinced the team without him
couldn't beat the team with him


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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2696294, and here i thought PCP was out of style 🤔
Posted by cgonz00cc, Wed May-15-19 01:01 PM
2696300, LOL@the game 1 hot takes
Posted by bentagain, Wed May-15-19 01:26 PM
Best of 7.

Obviously can’t have help defenders playing below the FT line

POR’s gonna have to goon it up a bit

Dame and CJ will get buckets
2696306, portland doesn't have the firepower. Series is over
Posted by Vex_id, Wed May-15-19 02:03 PM
You can tell they think the season is already a success making the WCF (and it is for them).

They ain't seeing the Dubs w/ or w/out KD


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2696303, A few other things: 1. Portland won't be THIS bad defensively Game 2
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-15-19 01:41 PM
I know the Blazers aren't exactly known for their defense, but this was really awful. I don't know what the heck Stotts was smoking when he came up with this defensive scheme, but leaving Curry and Klay open to shoot 3s isn't a sustainable strategy. I guess he decided it was better to have Kanter stand around like a statue 15-feet away from the ball rather than defend Curry at the 3-point line, lest Curry dribble around him and score 30 points in easy lay-ups. I'm guessing they come up with something better tomorrow. Shoot, they have to.

2. Even with Curry scoring at will, the Warriors defensive superiority, and the Blazers' defensive deficiency and turnovers, the Warriors were still only up by 6 at the beginning of the 4th. The Blazers ran out of gas after that. A good chunk of the closeness of the game had to do with the free throw disparity and sloppy Warriors play in the first half, but Blazers were in it long past they had any right to be. Lillard and McCollum will likely bounce back tomorrow.

3. But, again, if the Warriors are this on defense, none of it will matter.

4. I see Lillard playing for Oakland love by wearing the A's jersey. Well played. Warriors love supercedes all tho.

2696431, KD “not close” to returning
Posted by mrhood75, Thu May-16-19 08:07 PM
Kerr confirmed that he hasn’t started any basketball activities and isn’t traveling to Portland. I imagine the absolute earliest he’d come is Game 6 (if necessary), but even that I doubt.

Cousins isn’t ready yet either.

Hoping that it’ll be a Finals Return for both, IF we get there.
2696435, translation: the Warriors won game 1 without him
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu May-16-19 09:35 PM
2696443, KD about to suit up for the Blazers next game with how this is going...
Posted by FILF, Thu May-16-19 10:40 PM
2696439, LoLard
Posted by FILF, Thu May-16-19 10:34 PM
2696440, we can play Iggy til he's 45 at this rate
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-16-19 10:37 PM
fuck a regular season... that's for YOU plebians


2696441, Yea, turn off the lights.
Posted by Beezo, Thu May-16-19 10:38 PM
2696442, Iguadala fouled Lillard 17 times on that play
Posted by DJR, Thu May-16-19 10:39 PM
I think he was trying to foul so he couldn’t get the 3 off. That was some rock em sock em robot level shit.
2696445, The strip was clean, he knew they weren't going to call hand-checking
Posted by FILF, Thu May-16-19 10:56 PM
>I think he was trying to foul so he couldn’t get the 3 off.
> That was some rock em sock em robot level shit.

Lillard was trying to give him that James Harden special (forearm bump then stepback) but Iggy timed it right & got the strip. They aren't calling those subtle handchecks at the end of game just like they don't call forearm bump by the ball-handler's all game long. If he was reaching & slapping his forearm then they probably would have called it.
2696446, Iggy fouled him both before and after that forearm bump
Posted by DJR, Thu May-16-19 10:58 PM
Lol at “they weren’t calling it”. Yeah. Still a foul. That they didn’t call.
2696448, James Harden commits an offensive foul on basically EVERY stepback
Posted by FILF, Thu May-16-19 11:18 PM
>Lol at “they weren’t calling it”. Yeah. Still a foul.
> That they didn’t call.
2696444, warriors really going in the time capsule on niggas lmao
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu May-16-19 10:41 PM
2696447, 29-1 w/o...
Posted by Creole, Thu May-16-19 11:11 PM
I legit believe GSW is gonna end this series in 5 games.

And Kerr is making sure the entire bench is involved which is strengthening confidence because he’s gonna need all of them if they face, without KD, the Bucks in the Finals.

#spincycletimemachine

2696449, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vWGNvW4AAn51Q.jpg
Posted by FILF, Thu May-16-19 11:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6vWGNvW4AAn51Q.jpg
2696452, this is a better team with kd out idgaf.
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 12:30 AM
theyre damn near undefeated in their last 30 w/o him w/ steph. thats insane.

i dont know why people continue to say theyre not just because it sounds illogical with how good kd is. just watch the games. the numbers and our own eyes will tell you the same thing.

the ball movement on offense is so sharp now. those kerr rotations are back to being crisp like 2015. the bench is no longer a liability like people thought. its just better mayne.

2696454, Nobody wanted to hear it when I said KD is the beneficiary
Posted by FILF, Fri May-17-19 12:42 AM
>theyre damn near undefeated in their last 30 w/o him w/
>steph. thats insane.
>
>i dont know why people continue to say theyre not just because
>it sounds illogical with how good kd is. just watch the
>games. the numbers and our own eyes will tell you the same
>thing.
>
>the ball movement on offense is so sharp now. those kerr
>rotations are back to being crisp like 2015. the bench is no
>longer a liability like people thought. its just better
>mayne.
2696458, you was right (c) og maco
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 02:29 AM
2696466, Say Dat
Posted by RaphaelSoulLee, Fri May-17-19 09:06 AM
I'm from the DC area. I love KD. #30 my favorite player, though. Suits my narrative


>theyre damn near undefeated in their last 30 w/o him w/
>steph. thats insane.
>
>i dont know why people continue to say theyre not just because
>it sounds illogical with how good kd is. just watch the
>games. the numbers and our own eyes will tell you the same
>thing.
>
>the ball movement on offense is so sharp now. those kerr
>rotations are back to being crisp like 2015. the bench is no
>longer a liability like people thought. its just better
>mayne.
>
>
2696453, for real keep kd out for the rest of the playoffs.
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 12:39 AM
dont fuck up the chemistry.

i forgot draymond was *this* good. dude was a gamechanger tonight on both ends when he was in there.

it wouldnt surprise me at all if this version of the team runs the table.
2696455, Would be hilarious if he pulled an '04 Kirby hijacking along w/ Boogie
Posted by FILF, Fri May-17-19 12:47 AM
>dont fuck up the chemistry.
>
>i forgot draymond was *this* good. dude was a gamechanger
>tonight on both ends when he was in there.
>
>it wouldnt surprise me at all if this version of the team runs
>the table.
2696460, Reason why I laughed at cats who though Draymond was...
Posted by Creole, Fri May-17-19 05:58 AM
“i forgot draymond was *this* good. dude was a gamechanger tonight on both ends when he was in there.“

crazy and wrong for going off on KD like he did earlier in the season.

KD tried to “son” another all-star who won without him and Draymond wasn’t having it.

Hopefully, he keeps playing this well and the Warriors go get another chip. I’d love it if they did it without KD on the floor at all. Shut that noise down before he walks out the door. Maybe then, fools start putting respect back on these guys’s names.
2696462, The ONE time they won without KD was against Lebron playing with...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 07:06 AM
Mathew Delladova and Iman Shumpert lol
2696463, I always go back to that series like "what if"
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri May-17-19 08:34 AM
Because I think if Rondo doesn't disable Kevin Love and Kyrie's knees don't implode, Cleveland wins the first matchup easily.

It was the Warriors first time there and Cleveland still took 2 games without Kyrie and Love. Then watching the Cavs come back and beat them in 7 the next year after 73 wins...

I feel like LeBron would actually have 4 rings right now if not for those injuries.

And I'll say this, the Warriors can beat anybody in the NBA without Durant...except for a team with LeBron + 2 other allstars.

KD was the equalizer for GState.

Giannis might be the new LeBron but he's not as skilled (yet) so they actually still might be able to beat Milwaukee without KD (prolly tight 6-7 game series). With KD, Bucks lose in 5/6 games and convincingly IMO.
2696470, I seriously doubt it...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 09:24 AM

>Giannis might be the new LeBron but he's not as skilled (yet)
>so they actually still might be able to beat Milwaukee without
>KD (prolly tight 6-7 game series).
2696476, in 2016 dubs were up 3-1 on cavs
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 10:35 AM
before draymond got suspended and steph got ejected in the following game. both due to some lebron bitchassedness and bad reffing. they didnt fully recover in game 7.

you can solely blame dubs for the collapse if you want. thats fine. but the point is 2 of their best 3 players were removed from 2 important games for varying stretches of time...influencing the outcomes.

its not like the cavs were clearly a better team that just outgunned them from pillar to post. they were down 3-1 for a reason.

im not sure how anyone looks at that and sees the cavs as unbeatable by that same dubs roster.

is it really outside the realm of possibility that the dubs dont lose steph/draymond for any finals games the next 2 years and close out the cavs in both finals? maybe even 4-1 and 4-0?
2696491, I just look at the possible chain effect
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri May-17-19 11:48 AM
I thought Clev would have beaten the Warriors in the first matchup. They (Warriors) were rookies to the finals, Bron was a bulldozer and he had enough talent around him to pull it off.

I don't know how that loss would have affected the Warriors the next season: moves, how they play, what confidence they have, etc. They might not win 73 (maybe mid 60's) and they don't come into the finals feeling like a buzzsaw. If Clev wins in 2015, maybe they comeback in 2016 with more confidence in knowing they can beat the Warriors and when it was said and done, each team took one due to injuries.

>is it really outside the realm of possibility that the dubs
>dont lose steph/draymond for any finals games the next 2 years
>and close out the cavs in both finals? maybe even 4-1 and
>4-0?

I also think the Cavs likely beat the Warriors the next season if KD isn't there. Maybe in 6 or 7 but I think the Warriors had no answer for LeBron and he exploited it. Kyrie did too. KD allowed them to match every single thing Bron did if not counter with more blows.

My opinion...at the end of the day, it would have been either 2-2 or 3-1 in favor of Clev had everyone stayed healthy and KD not come to the Warriors.
2696497, iono babybro. dubs swept the cavs during the 2015/16 season.
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 12:08 PM
won 16 more games in an indisputably tougher conference.

then went on to open up a 3-1 lead in the finals before some sideline intervention.

that just sounds like a better team to me.

people were talking gentlemans sweep before draymond got suspended. thats how much better they looked.
2696512, Yeah but the W's were also defending champs
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri May-17-19 01:43 PM
That L has psychological consequences.

It's the whole reason Houston couldn't beat the Warriors without KD, even (But they were up 3-2 until Paul got hurt). It's the whole reason the Knicks couldn't finish off the '93 bulls after going up 2-0 with homecourt advantage. It's the whole reason the Kings couldn't recover from the Vlade tap out to Horry that stopped the Lakers from going down 3-1 in 2002. Why the Bulls couldn't finish off the Cavs after going up 2-1 in 2015.

So in this reality, yeah, everything you say is valid and I don't disagree. In the reality where Kyrie and Love don't get hurt and the Cavs face the Warriors at full strength the first go round (where LeBron and the Quickens loans concession stand workers took 2 games from GS), I think it might be a little different.
2696479, No one knows what could have happened. I just know what did
Posted by mrhood75, Fri May-17-19 11:03 AM
Because if we're going to play "what if...?" , I'll say that IF Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving had been healthy, the Warriors would have played a different type of game and scorched a much weaker defensive team and swept the Cavs in '15. But, hey, we'll never know...
2696467, it completely frees up Draymond to do Draymond tings
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 09:11 AM
He almost ALWAYS makes the right decision with the ball

2696477, those high sets are so immaculate.
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 10:50 AM
both him with the ball and him getting the pass off the screen and slip.

blazers had zero idea what he was gonna do.

2696459, Like I said: better without KD. Y'all said I was crazy.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri May-17-19 05:16 AM

The best version of this team was actually the 73-win team.

2696461, People don't want to admit I was right in that other post, this Portland...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 07:02 AM
team is fugazi as a western conference finalist. This is basically the same team that got SWEPT in the first round last year by the Pelicans when Rondo OWNED Dame. The same Pelicans team that couldn't even make the playoffs this year without rondo.

The Warriors are great team without KD but they still need him and i feel that the outcome of these first 2 games influenced this most recent "medical report".

The Warriors don't beat Lebron in the Finals these last 2 years without KD.

The Warrior probably don't win that first year if Love and Kyrie were healthy and Bron wasn't out there with Timofey Mozgov and JR Smith.
2696472, That’s a whole lottta ‘what ifs’
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 09:30 AM
Whatever you helps you all sleep better at night I guess

2696478, So you think the Warriors would’ve won the last 2 titles without KD?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 10:55 AM
2696502, we can agree dubs without kd beats cavs without kyrie right?
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 12:20 PM
so we can automatically cross out that last finals and focus on 2017 as the only one in question right?
2696492, your are objectively wrong...this isn't hard
Posted by Stadiq, Fri May-17-19 11:52 AM
>team is fugazi as a western conference finalist. This is
>basically the same team that got SWEPT in the first round last
>year by the Pelicans when Rondo OWNED Dame. The same Pelicans
>team that couldn't even make the playoffs this year without
>rondo.

Putting aside that you ignore context, changes with the Pels this year, injuries with the Pels, and the idea that teams/players can you know...grow and improve without making a huge addition...

Hood, Kanter, and Curry have been very decent roster additions for Portland.

This isn't the same team as last year. Just like the Pels aren't the same team.


We get it- you are disappointed in this conference finals match up. You can just say that. You can just say "it should be Houston- too bad they had so many injuries" or whatever.

But you dial it up to stupid and try to claim that this is the same Portland team as last year- when that is objectively not true- and this is why you get clowned on here so much.

Even when you have a decent point, you fuck it up.

Cuz you add extra commentary that makes it clear you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Which is weird, because you are on here all the fucking time.

Its why people pile on you. And you have the power to stop it. Stop saying objectively untrue shit. Especially when you don't even need to.

How can you be this big of a basketball fan, and get simple facts wrong all the time? For no real reason too.

You can have your "this is a weak conference finals"- but you add on with all this other untrue shit that just makes you look silly.


Now, the east vs west inbalance is a lot better this year. Objectively true.


Portland is better this year than last season. Objectively true.


Are they the 2nd best team in the west? No. But they are here mostly because of Houston's season. That happens.

They have proven they are at least the 4th best team (if not 3rd) in the west. Objectively true. Ask OKC.

All that young talent in LA couldn't even sniff the playoffs in a western conference that isn't as strong as last season. Also, objectively true.


I'm not even a Blazers fan (though I think hating them is odd as fuck), but I'm tired of you saying untrue, stupid shit.





2696465, Guys. Slow down on the “better without KD” talk
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-17-19 08:55 AM
They barely won this game, at home.

They are still GREAT. But what team in history is BETTER without Kevin Durant? Y’all sound dumb as rocks.
2696469, give me a logical reason why their record is a lot better without him
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 09:22 AM
but the team isnt better.

i havent actually seen anyone make a deductive or data driven case for why they arent better without kd aside from 'cmon guythsss its kddddd. they just arent better without him'.

the case against kd is the actual results. whats the case for kd?

its not a small sample size either. its over 1/3 of a seasons worth of games.

without steph and with kd...the team wins like 60% of their games. nothing to sneeze at. but below their 70% winning percentage in the regular season (a worse team percentage-wise).

with steph and without kd...the team wins over 95% of their games.

whats the objective counter-argument to that?
2696471, you have to look at the actual games? were some of them against trash...
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 09:27 AM
teams were KD could've played but they figured they would need him but sat out?

Bottom line their 1 title without KD should have an asterisk because it was against a Cavs team that was missing 2 of its top 3 players.
2696489, hypervigilence of a smaller margin of error
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri May-17-19 11:39 AM
an edge about reminding ppl they were good before KD

guys not standing around watching KD work

increased perimeter defense in absence of their best rim defender

all of these things could play a role, and if you tell me the full strength Ws are fully locked in every. single. night. from top to bottom...well i respectfully disagree.
2696503, They're a historically great team.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri May-17-19 12:22 PM
Steph and Klay getting more shots is not a bad thing, obviously.

But they are worlds thinner without KD. Completely healthy they're better than anyone without KD. With KD, they can lose any player and be fine.

I'm not sure if Steph fits amazingly with KD - the numbers tend to show that he doesnt - but the team is not better without Kevin Durant, that is just stupid talk. They're playing the Blazers, who are a midlevel playoff team. I dont think the Bucks would beat them, but it'd be WAY closer.
2696618, Lost twice w/ KD in Houston then proceeded to close them out w/o Servant
Posted by FILF, Sun May-19-19 12:23 AM
>They're playing the Blazers, who are a midlevel playoff team. I dont
>think the Bucks would beat them, but it'd be WAY closer.

Yeah, the Clippers meanwhile were an all-time team which required Servant hijacking the offense while freezing out Curry b/c Patrick Beverley got in his head.
2696468, Niggaz barely winning at home and folks throwing a parade
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri May-17-19 09:21 AM
This team is better with KD

Y’all need to put the hyperbole down.
2696473, they pulled out a big game at home
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 09:34 AM
with a 13-4 scoring stretch and snatched victory against a team that played better than them like 4/5 of the game.

meanwhile they were coughing up 135 and 129 points at home while throwing away games against the 8th seed with kd.

talk to me.
2696475, coors light cold hard facts
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri May-17-19 09:48 AM
2696481, yikes
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 11:10 AM
2696486, OMG they lost a few games in earlier rounds
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri May-17-19 11:25 AM
but beat Portland so obviously this means they are better

Wtf.
2696480, against Portland, at that.
Posted by Vex_id, Fri May-17-19 11:06 AM
Portland looked like they didn't believe they were in the game -- didn't look comfortable until they were trailing and were like "ah that's how it's supposed to go"

C.J. been shook AF in the 4th quarter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jhgKGlFTn4

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2696482, I can only imagine how uncomfortable this all makes you
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 11:12 AM
KD out and we look fucking BETTER lmaooo



If I were in your shoes, I'd probably take the same angle you are tho... focus on the Portland Trail Blazers


We're winning the title this year with or without KD. Drinks on me next time
2696484, I'm just quoting KD: "come on, man. y'all (POR) ain't winning"
Posted by Vex_id, Fri May-17-19 11:16 AM
it is what it is.

G.S. may actually be better without KD -- it was a super sensitive move to cry in the parking lot after the Cavs won the most historic chip in league history - when they should've said "let's get back we got this" instead of "KD COME SAVE US!"

But KD has likely played his last game in a Dub jersey - so let's see if the Dubs finally have their confidence back after 2016.

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2696507, looked pretty damn confident since KD went out dontcha think
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 12:38 PM

>But KD has likely played his last game in a Dub jersey - so
>let's see if the Dubs finally have their confidence back after
>2016.
>
>-->


but its 2019 lol. Going on our third title in a row broski


We'll be sure to work on our confidence at this year's third parade in a row
2696485, meanwhile bron outside the club living vicariously thru everyone in vip.
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 11:17 AM
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1127749136797749248
2696505, misses the attention.. maybe could drop a new colorway
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 12:32 PM
I'd probably cop
2696487, Steph looks better than his wife too.
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri May-17-19 11:26 AM
2696496, lol...damn
Posted by Stadiq, Fri May-17-19 12:08 PM
2696498, dude said she looks like hines ward.
Posted by Reeq, Fri May-17-19 12:12 PM
2696500, lol
Posted by Vex_id, Fri May-17-19 12:15 PM

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2696504, he does tho ... Hines Ward aint really my thang
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 12:31 PM
2696528, RE: Steph looks better than his wife too.
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 03:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2fmZ2C2CdA
2696483, right, this Portland is easily the weakest WC finalist in recent memory.
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 11:12 AM
2696495, huh?
Posted by Stadiq, Fri May-17-19 12:08 PM

The Kawhi-less Spurs led by the corpse of Ginobli and Softridge getting their asses swept was that much better?

Or the '15 version of the Rockets?


Those two series were that much better to you??


You just mad Dame doesn't want to come to LA or what?
2696521, RE: huh?
Posted by ThaTruth, Fri May-17-19 02:23 PM
>
>The Kawhi-less Spurs led by the corpse of Ginobli and
>Softridge getting their asses swept was that much better?
>
>Or the '15 version of the Rockets?
>
>
>Those two series were that much better to you??
>
>
>You just mad Dame doesn't want to come to LA or what?

Damn is Kemba with less hype.
2696506, nah we bored of parades now.. thats new money shit
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-17-19 12:34 PM
yep im in asshole mode



we was BROKE
2696602, Dame is not built for this.
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-18-19 10:37 PM
2696613, Warriors D is making him look this bad.
Posted by mrhood75, Sat May-18-19 11:49 PM
At this point he only has one more total FGs than TOs. Warriors are playing him perfectly. It looks like they've broken his spirit; he's not moving well without the ball.
2696603, 30-1...
Posted by Creole, Sat May-18-19 10:40 PM
And they were down, again, by double digits.

3 - 0 in the WCF


2696607, RE: 30-1...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-18-19 10:48 PM
>And they were down, again, by double digits.
>
>3 - 0 in the WCF

Against the weakest WCF opponent they’ve ever had to face
2696617, They don’t get to pick their opponent...
Posted by Creole, Sun May-19-19 12:12 AM
These dudes are just playing ball and winning.

It’s fun to watch.
2696621, its the way they eat up leads and close out games now too.
Posted by Reeq, Sun May-19-19 02:04 AM
people keep talking about portland being weak but what about the way the dubs closed out houston in those last 2 games?
2696635, They’re good. This isn’t anything new.
Posted by legsdiamond, Sun May-19-19 11:56 AM
2696637, Not taking anything away that was 4 the “they don’t need KD crowd”
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-19-19 12:11 PM
>These dudes are just playing ball and winning.
>
>It’s fun to watch.
2696606, That was a John Wick kill montage in slow motion holy shit
Posted by Nodima, Sat May-18-19 10:48 PM
Portland killed their dog, hit 'em with a sedan and put a knife in their thigh...and then the Warriors just did what they do anyway. Draymond "Baba Yaga" Green.


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
2696610, CJ and Dame absolutely dreadful in 4th quarters in this series
Posted by Vex_id, Sat May-18-19 10:56 PM
The moment is too big for them - and they are grossly over matched.


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2696611, Warriors sandbagging tf outta Portland. So disrespectful
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat May-18-19 11:03 PM
2696612, The worst part is Terry Stotts will keep this job for another 7 years
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-18-19 11:08 PM
2696624, GS is a lot better. What’s he supposed to do?
Posted by DJR, Sun May-19-19 08:42 AM
2696632, So why did Ty Lue get fired?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun May-19-19 10:49 AM

2696633, because Dan Gilbert is a terrible owner?
Posted by DJR, Sun May-19-19 10:58 AM
2696638, Why did Dwane Casey get fired?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-19-19 12:13 PM
2696639, racism?
Posted by DJR, Sun May-19-19 12:23 PM
2696614, It’s crazy when you think about the Warriors are basically just one...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat May-18-19 11:54 PM
“Lebron-Iguodala block” away from going for 5 in a row...

I think KD still comes if they win it in ‘16...
2696616, Me too.
Posted by mrhood75, Sun May-19-19 12:00 AM

>I think KD still comes if they win it in ‘16...

IF they win it all again, I can't see any logical reason why he'd leave. Seriously, he's going to leave this team for the Knicks? Give up the most money and potentially more chips one of the worst organizations in the league? Just don't see it.
2696619, Kd doesn't seem like a logical guy
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun May-19-19 12:26 AM
2696642, He's way deep in his feelings, probably sings a Drake song in the shower
Posted by FILF, Sun May-19-19 12:38 PM
2696643, LOL which one though
Posted by Amritsar, Sun May-19-19 12:47 PM
2696623, I’ve been saying the exact same thing...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-19-19 07:29 AM

>IF they win it all again, I can't see any logical reason why
>he'd leave. Seriously, he's going to leave this team for the
>Knicks? Give up the most money and potentially more chips one
>of the worst organizations in the league? Just don't see it.

2696634, Maan, Fuck You...LOL
Posted by RexLongfellow, Sun May-19-19 11:53 AM
>
>>I think KD still comes if they win it in ‘16...
>
>IF they win it all again, I can't see any logical reason why
>he'd leave. Seriously, he's going to leave this team for the
>Knicks? Give up the most money and potentially more chips one
>of the worst organizations in the league? Just don't see it.
I'm a Knicks fan...way to shit on my Corn Flakes...lol

Sadly, I agree. Winning plus GS can offer him the super max, AND the owner says fuck a luxury tax? I'll believe it when I see it
2696615, Dray might not a max player on other teams, but he is for the W's
Posted by mrhood75, Sat May-18-19 11:57 PM
Dude absolutely put them on his back when they were down big and kept them in the game. Lead by example and kept the other players in the game. One of his best play-offs with the team. And he's having an amazing stretch. People who hate on him are looking silly right now.

Bench was really good as well, and extremely efficient. 33 points on 15-21 shooting. That's more than we could hoped for.

And of coure, Steph was Steph. Another amazing second half. He was burning everyone.

So yeah, great game. Be nice to finish it off Monday and rest for a little over a week. Might end up being a gentleman's sweep though.
2696748, *edit*
Posted by Numba_33, Tue May-21-19 08:59 AM
Boy am I lazy; a simple duckduckgo.com search revealed the answer to my query of maxing Klay, Durant, and Draymond. Here's the link: https://tinyurl.com/y3grtocq

Here's a link to the yahoo.com article that fully breaks down with the salary situation would look like if Klay, Durant, and Draymond all get maxes: https://tinyurl.com/y38g8hf6
2696622, dame aint built for this playoff life. did rodney hood play this game?
Posted by Reeq, Sun May-19-19 02:12 AM
.
2696626, complete list of NBA champs whose best player < 6'4
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun May-19-19 09:51 AM
2015 Warriors
1990 Pistons
1989 Pistons

fin

i didnt go back past 1975 but it doesnt matter. 2 players in the entirety of the modern era of the NBA have managed to win a title as a team's best player, and Lillard is matched up against one right now. those two players are 2 of the GOAT 3 point guards (the third is 6'9 incidentally)

im not really a fan of making blanket statements because of a matchup vs an all timer. Not to mention that CJ and Dame dont have nearly the same defensive cavalry that the Ws and Bad Boys did.

same goes for Kyrie. NO little dudes lead guys to chips, so why should we expect it to be different for them?
2696627, don't feel like editing, so to expound on this:
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sun May-19-19 09:58 AM
it basically comes down to a smaller player needing an excess of creativity and skill to he able to get *his* shot when everyone knows who's shooting.

thats why AI's handle is still so revered. if he did have God-like handles, he wasnt getting his shots up. Isiah used to run AT the baseline and shoot from behind the backboard. steph takes a step back when hes already at 28 feet.

kobe...jump and fade. durant...jump and fade. jordan...jump and fade. olajuwon/duncan/shaq/...shoulder bump and hook. garnett...shit every shot he took was unblockable. these shots are all *physically *unstoppable. the only defense is to hope for a miss. AND all those dudes might just say fuck it and yam on you.

we gotta let these gendas go and be honest about what a small player can be expected to accomplish as the focus of a defense.
2696640, It's one thing to lose, it's another to shit the bed
Posted by FILF, Sun May-19-19 12:29 PM
Lillard is a career 40% shooter in the postseason. For comparison, Lowry is a 41% shooter. The man has been a dud outside of the '14 series vs. Rockets & the 1st round against OKC this postseason. He's basically living off two series as far as his postseason career is concerned. If it wasn't for 6'3" CJ going off, they wouldn't even have gotten past the 2nd rd.

As far as the size issue, Nash/CP-Plea actually put up better scoring numbers (while maintaining their efficiency) in the postseason than the regular season.

Historically, Kevin Johnson (pre-injury) is probably the best comp for Lillard as far as how they were both ranked in relative to their peer during their primes as fringe MVP candidates & perennial 2nd team All-NBA guards. KJ outplayed Stockton/Magic during a single postseason & almost led the Suns to the '90 Finals before he got injured in Gm 6 of the WCF. Lillard meanwhile has constantly been clubbed like a baby seal by CP-Plea/Curry throughout his career.
2696641, you have to be able to control the paint on both ends of the floor...
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun May-19-19 12:31 PM
whether it’s done by one dominant player or collectively by a group that’s what it takes to win an NBA championship.

With the game becoming so perimeter oriented offensively you have people that can defend the paint AND switch out on the perimeter as well.

Portland doesn’t have anybody that can do that.

When Kanter was in OKC they barely played him against GS.
2696707, cmon fam we gonna use this excuse every time a pg underperforms?
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 08:55 PM
2696996, steph is top 3 all time with cavalry.
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri May-24-19 12:18 AM
no one was claiming dame an all timer before. him not being one now isnt reason for scorn.

hes a very very good player. he was that before and after the series.
2696703, Get out the brooms or nah?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-20-19 08:33 PM
2696704, think the blazers will win tonight
Posted by agentzero, Mon May-20-19 08:43 PM
2696705, Yea, the big ass industrial push brooms
Posted by Beezo, Mon May-20-19 08:47 PM
Meyers ain't ready for vacation yet though.
2696709, you aint lying.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 09:07 PM
>Meyers ain't ready for vacation yet though.
2696706, i like this lil bench unit with klay.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 08:53 PM
2696710, dame looking like the weak link on offense.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 09:12 PM
2696711, super saiyan steph byke
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-20-19 09:17 PM
2696712, crowd got quiet as hell. they know their team bout to blow it lol.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 10:16 PM
2696713, Lmao. Curry had a wide open 2 and took 8 steps to take a 3
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon May-20-19 10:29 PM
2696715, He got fouled before that also
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon May-20-19 10:32 PM
2696716, The fuck that have to do with passing up a wide open 2?
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon May-20-19 10:42 PM
Game would’ve been over.

2696714, Welp. At least Portland fans get a little more basketball
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon May-20-19 10:31 PM
It’s over tho.
2696717, 31-1...
Posted by Creole, Mon May-20-19 10:48 PM
SWEEP

After again being down double digits.

2696721, i gotta look up what happened in that one game.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 10:57 PM
they prolly technically 32-0 but had a blown call by the refs on the last shot or some shit.
2696718, the warriors some assholes man
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon May-20-19 10:48 PM
spotted them like 15 points every game just to make it interesting
2696720, draymond just created a few more trump supporters.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 10:51 PM
2696722, that one assistant coach stood up like he was bout to scrap.
Posted by Reeq, Mon May-20-19 11:01 PM
2696728, He rained on Nazi Youth member & Ken Doll's parade in the whitest city
Posted by FILF, Tue May-21-19 01:06 AM
2696753, them Portland Proud Boys
Posted by Amritsar, Tue May-21-19 09:13 AM
2696723, For the record, John Wall has never been swept out of the playoffs.
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Mon May-20-19 11:06 PM
2696729, He’s also never been to a ECF or eliminated 2 teams on buzzer beaters
Posted by Ryan M, Tue May-21-19 01:13 AM
2696743, If only he got to play Portland in Rd 2 of the Playoffs
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue May-21-19 07:59 AM
2696995, would playing Denver have helped him?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri May-24-19 12:14 AM
i doubt that strongly
2696726, 5th straight NBA finals. An NBA team hasn't done that in over 50 years.
Posted by mrhood75, Tue May-21-19 12:38 AM
Warriors are getting to be in some rarified air when it comes to professional sports franchise accomplishments. We're probably not going to really be able to appreciate the overall greatness of all of this until like 10 years down the road.

As for the game, Steph ruled. Draymond ruled. Looney ruled. McKinnie filled in well for Iggy. We're banged up and still swept them. And people who talk smack about Draymond look sillier and sillier by the game.

As for Lillard, he had a good game, but he pretty ineffective as a whole this series. Even though dude repped Oakland this year well enough, he's a bit too whiny for my tastes. Complained when he wasn't an all-star. Complained when he wasn't first team all NBA. And there was a little bit too much talk by others about how it'd be "perfect" for him to close out Oracle. Yeah, so much for that. You're cool enough, Dame. But you're not Steph.
2696745, Even Draymond thinks he was terrible this year
Posted by bentagain, Tue May-21-19 08:02 AM
What'd he shoot, like 25% from 3 this year?

Teams started playing him like Ben Simmons

He's bounced back this series

But there's no need to try and revise the season

He was bad.
2696752, Evaluating Draymond by his 3pt percentage
Posted by Amritsar, Tue May-21-19 09:12 AM
that's a new one


Anything else you notice him doing on the court?
2696774, Pick a number...regressed across the board
Posted by bentagain, Tue May-21-19 11:03 AM
Defenders playing him below the FT line

Crying and fighting with refs every play

TOs

Just wasn’t the table setter that he’s been the last couple of games

Like I said, Draymond agrees...shitty season

You disagree? Or need a thesis to support it?

2696935, his impact has always gone beyond the stats.
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-23-19 10:55 AM
He's the focal point on defense. Anchors us


and did you happen to see him pushing the ball up the floor off rebounds against Portland? They kinda struggled against that... all series



But yeah, teams sag off him shooting 3's. lol
2696747, They get to rest for NINE days....oof
Posted by Deebot, Tue May-21-19 08:28 AM
2696768, 8.
Posted by Vex_id, Tue May-21-19 10:51 AM

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2696776, You’ve always lacked comprehension of the concept of team basketball
Posted by mrhood75, Tue May-21-19 11:12 AM
So I’m not surprised you’d try to bring up something irrelevant.
2696886, lol - he said that like it was 8 rings.. lol
Posted by LegacyNS, Wed May-22-19 01:02 PM
dafuq..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
2696890, Wut -- Lebron did it across 3 different teams Lol
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 02:32 PM

That's the definition of excellent team player
2696892, What's that have to do with anything?
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 02:37 PM
2696896, Great team players take different teams far. Lebron is the best.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 02:49 PM

Lebron was the guy on 3 different teams, did it
8 years in a row.

We'll never, ever see that.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2696901, Again, that's irrelevant to the conversation here
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 03:11 PM
I said the Warriors, as a team, just something that no other team has done in over 50 years. And, as I forgot to mention, they're only the second team in NBA history to ever do so.

Coming in and bringing up an individual, like it has any significance in a conversation about an entire team's accomplishments, is irrelevant.
2696919, You've always lacked any sense of nuance.
Posted by Vex_id, Wed May-22-19 09:53 PM
I'm pointing out the hilarious irony of you sycing 5 straight finals appearances and alluding to its historical significance when you had no such praise for LeBron's unprecedented (in the modern era) 8 straight finals appearances. To the contrary, you trivialized that unheard of achievement.

Just keep it logically consistent - that's all.

Or you could just take a trip to Costa Rica and log on to OKP Sports all day (with a great view?)

Either way.

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2696920, We all know about your deep insecurity.
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 11:37 PM
Especially now that LeBron's days as champion are over. So much so that it's causing you to try to force him into conversations that aren't even tangentially related to him.

Don't worry, LeBron will get another shot. When he opts out of his Laker's contract in two years and signs with the Warriors. That will be funny.
2696923, Nah, you have to thank Lebron for the Durant-Warriors.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu May-23-19 06:53 AM

Without Lebron in 2016, it never happens.

Durant doesnt's sign with GS if they were defending
champs. Lebron beating them at least gave the *impression* that
the Warriors needed to improve (they didn't; Lebron just GOATed)




2696893, 3-6
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed May-22-19 02:37 PM
2696899, 1-9
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 02:56 PM

Jordan with no Pippen


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2696942, He'd have how many rings by now?
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-23-19 11:40 AM
if it wasn't for us ruining the party
2696891, Testament to Lebron: He ruined the best dynasty ever Lol
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 02:33 PM
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2696894, Hey, why win 3 when you can win one? LOL "Ruined"
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 02:37 PM
2696897, 2016 sticks out like a sore thumb. He ruined the best dynasty ever.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 02:50 PM

Its true

That the Dubs had to ADD the second best player in
the league makes that point further Lol


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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2696902, Yeah, not really.
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 03:13 PM
No one talks about the one year UCLA didn't win a championship during their run. They talk about the championships.

And, of course, the Warriors legacy is still being written. Or, to be exact, played.
2696927, Lebron forced a 73-win team to add an All-time great. It's pretty wild.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu May-23-19 08:46 AM

So Lebron's victory is a very central part of the Dubs

A 73-win team had to add the second best player in the league
to beat Lebron James and (as we NOW know) an obligate sidekick
in Kyrie.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2696905, he's kinda right, that 73 win team was supposed to the greatest ever
Posted by ThaTruth, Wed May-22-19 03:33 PM
2696907, It'd be one thing if 2015 never happened and they never won after
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 03:41 PM
And then the Warriors would have been remembered like 2001 Mariners. But they won before and won again.

Case in point, no one brings up the Patriots 18-1 season anymore. Because they kept winning. Winning solves everything. ***shrug***
2696908, Nah, Lebron made a 73-win team add the #2 player in the league.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 04:07 PM

That will always be a thing.

Always.




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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2696911, History is written by the winners, not rewritten by the losers.
Posted by mrhood75, Wed May-22-19 04:19 PM
And the Warriors kept winning. *** shrug***
2696917, Right. Warriors lost, then remade the team. Cuz of Lebron.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed May-22-19 09:42 PM
>And the Warriors kept winning. *** shrug***
2696944, Well shit we Giants fans bring it up at least 4 times a year
Posted by T Reynolds, Thu May-23-19 12:32 PM

>Case in point, no one brings up the Patriots 18-1 season
>anymore.

2696938, Loser mentality shit
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-23-19 10:59 AM
Trying to weigh one ring over our 3 and counting..


lol
2696943, I resigned myself that they'll insecure weirdoes through at least June
Posted by mrhood75, Thu May-23-19 11:50 AM
They'll be exhibiting their strange LeBron fixation in the Finals thread too. And, if the Warriors win, in whatever victory thread there is. Five years running with this type of behavior, so I don't expect it to stop now.
2696993, Bruh: Thank Lebron -- without him, there's no Durant-Dubs
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu May-23-19 11:17 PM

It's just a fact

He made a team with an MVP add another
2696937, Heatles the best dynasty ever
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-23-19 10:57 AM
at least it was supposed to be



Never had a chance to achieve this level of greatness GS is on
2696941, Doing what Bron in Miami was supposed to do
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-23-19 11:26 AM
but failed
2696994, Lebron created the Durant-RRiors tho. Y'all should thank him
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu May-23-19 11:18 PM

I'm serious

He made two MVPs have to gang up

It was good for Warriors culture

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "
2697006, Credit to Bron for going to Miami
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-24-19 08:35 AM
and failing at what he said he would do


which KD took the same formula and just did it better


sorry not sorry
2697042, Bron did better: Came home, saved the city, destroyed the GOAT team
Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri May-24-19 11:01 AM

And made them add an MVP in order to beat them

Again: Y'all should be happy he did that
2696997, id actually never seen that spelled out before but uh...yeah
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri May-24-19 02:05 AM
2696754, Portland will be here again next year.. Salute
Posted by Amritsar, Tue May-21-19 09:13 AM
Its gonna be fun when Nurkic comes back


Credit to Dame for passing by Westbrook too. Always thought he was better and he's showed it


2696758, No they won't lol
Posted by ThaTruth, Tue May-21-19 09:39 AM
2696766, Lmao! Fuck and no!
Posted by TheRealBillyOcean, Tue May-21-19 10:38 AM
2696936, yeah kinda forgot about Denver there lol
Posted by Amritsar, Thu May-23-19 10:56 AM
Denver/Portland vs GS next WCF
2696914, Yep.
Posted by BSharp, Wed May-22-19 07:16 PM
Nurkic is the real deal.
2696945, Swept?
Posted by Ceej, Thu May-23-19 01:40 PM
Co-sign