Go back to previous topic
Forum nameOkay Sports
Topic subjectLuke Kennard: the next JJ Redick.
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2690048
2690048, Luke Kennard: the next JJ Redick.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Mar-07-19 04:27 PM
Since the Pistons sent away Stanley Johnson for Not Being As Good As Justise Winslow, Kennard's minutes have increased and he has made the most of them.

He's done 15.5 PPG and 3 RPG, is posting a 3.5:1 AST:TO ratio, and is shooting over 50% from 3.

Just like JJ Redick, Kennard, a deadly shooter from #TheBrotherhood with below-average NBA athleticism, has worked his ass off and been unconstrained by a coach (Doc for JJ, Dwane for Luke) who saw how Stan Van Gundy was wasting his potential. (Interesting that both of these intelligent coaches are black, yet Van Gundy's the one whose "basketball mind" has always been praised. 🤔🤔🤔)

Oh, and since the trade that increased Kennard's PT? The Pistons are 8-2.

Don't be surprised when Kennard is out there in the year 2033 scoring 16+ PPG for a playoff team just like Redick is. Dude knows exactly what his role is, plays it to perfection, and can shoot 40% from 3 for the next decade.
2690054, RE: Luke Kennard is much more atheletic than JJ,
Posted by isaaaa, Thu Mar-07-19 04:49 PM
not saying you compared them on that level BTW. JJ just got drafted over Donovan Mitchell, who's basically an NBA all-star.

If not for Mitchell I think Kennard would of had less pressure from the press & Piston fans.


Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
2718457, You think?
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Aug-24-20 07:24 AM

>If not for Mitchell I think Kennard would of had less pressure
>from the press & Piston fans.
2690058, RE: Luke Kennard: the next JJ Redick.
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Mar-07-19 05:03 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2616463&mesg_id=2616463&listing_type=search
2690064, Mid Mike Dunleavy....yawn
Posted by guru0509, Thu Mar-07-19 06:05 PM
2690065, he gon be a lot better than redick
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Mar-07-19 06:09 PM

2690068, !!!
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Mar-07-19 06:14 PM
He's definitely ahead of the Redick schedule, I'll give you that.
2690124, agreed
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Mar-09-19 10:08 AM
2690067, Almost forgot that he’s in the league.
Posted by Beezo, Thu Mar-07-19 06:12 PM
.
2690069, I forgot Alex Len was in the league.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Mar-07-19 06:16 PM
Then I saw him posterized on ESPN last night.

It was the only time a NBA player from Maryland has been featured on ESPN this season, so that's something, at least!
2690071, He’s better than all 9 Plumtree brothers.
Posted by Beezo, Thu Mar-07-19 06:34 PM
2690072, he not
Posted by Basaglia, Thu Mar-07-19 06:38 PM
2690074, Ok. 3 of them??
Posted by Beezo, Thu Mar-07-19 06:56 PM
2690075, Mason is notably better than Len, cmon. That's inarguable.
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Mar-07-19 07:12 PM
Career stats for Len (5th overall pick) and Plumlee (22nd overall pick):

PPG:
Plumlee: 8.5
Len: 7.7

RPG:
Plumlee: 6.3
Len: 6.3

APG:
Plumlee: 2.1
Len: .8 (lmao)

SPG:
Plumlee: .8
Len: .4

BPG:
Plumlee: 1
Len: 1

eFG%:
Plumlee: 57.3%
Len: 49.5%

Box Plus Minus:
Plumlee: 2.4
Len: -1.8 (for his career!)

Value Over Replacement Player:
Plumlee: 11.1
Len: .4

Win Shares:
Plumlee: 29.8
Len: 14.4

I'll give Len pure free throw percentage over Mason. Other than that, Mason is equal to or better than Len at *literally* everything.

Len's BPM, VORP, and WS numbers are actually fairly close to those of Miles, an end-of-first-rounder 5 years older than Len.

But I'll give you that Len, a Top 5 pick, is better than Marshall, an undrafted free agent. So... congrats?

2690077, Only one is playing a vital role on a top 2 seed in a harder conference
Posted by josephmurf2384, Thu Mar-07-19 08:04 PM
Plumdawg having a year and brings great energy off the bench. The other gut is only playing because ATL doesn't have anyone else.
2690078, ^^^
Posted by Frank Longo, Thu Mar-07-19 08:54 PM
2690081, Mason can hoop, fuck Alex Len. I've seen Mason hold his own
Posted by isaaaa, Thu Mar-07-19 10:01 PM
with ALL NBA Olympic guys, he fit right in.


Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
2690073, Yeah K.D. effed up G'Town & Maryland, he was spose
Posted by isaaaa, Thu Mar-07-19 06:46 PM
to hoop in DC or be a Terp.


>It was the only time a NBA player from Maryland has been
>featured on ESPN this season, so that's something, at least!


Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
http://Tupreme.com
2690133, Jake Layman catching alley-oops pretty regularly now
Posted by Call It Anything, Sat Mar-09-19 01:02 PM
>It was the only time a NBA player from Maryland has been
>featured on ESPN this season, so that's something, at least!

Solid minutes with Portland this year. Playing better than I ever thought he would in the league.

And if you want to talk Facebook Live, Diamond Stone dropped 15 for the Rio Grande Valley Vipers the other night...
2690125, i support your thesis, but the narrative is wrong
Posted by cgonz00cc, Sat Mar-09-19 10:50 AM
stanley wasnt in Luke's way, Reggie Bullock was, and to some extent Langston Galloway still is. (i dont understand the fascination SVG and Casey BOTH have with him btw. he had a nice game last night but cmon.)

somebody has to guard 3s and Stanley was the best at that. when bullock sat and galloway played instead of kennard, that aint because of stanley. bc now bruce brown gets stanley's minutes and plays next to Galloway. Kennard cant guard 3s and probably never will. Bullock can guard both tho, and always should have been starting there next to Kennard.

i understand the stanley trade (SVG loyalist id guess, plus contract year) but Reggie Bullock is an elite 3-D player and now the big 3 of Blake/Reggie/Andre is on fire (especially Andre, who will be in the HOF if this is his consistent prime).

Reggie-Kennard-Bullock-Blake-Andre

should be the starting lineup right now. (all acquired and/or developed by SVG). in my perfect world, Stanley is still on the team with the 2nd unit but at least weve gotten return on that.

finally, on Kennard himself, hes playing like this now because hes good enough to do so. i realize that sounds redundant, but this wasnt him as a player even 3 months ago. if you want to give his increased aggression and confidence to Casey i wont argue that, but it wasnt always there, even if the talent/skills were. now hes shooting with minimal delay, and showing creativity. i just hate that we had to move Bullock to bring it out. they should be playing together.
2718472, Another wack ass Duke player
Posted by allStah, Mon Aug-24-20 11:06 AM
2725681, Now he’s on the Clippers to play exactly Redick’s role.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Nov-18-20 09:56 PM
A fantastic pickup for LAC, a great situation for Kennard.
2725683, L
Posted by allStah, Wed Nov-18-20 10:10 PM
2725687, Props to you for admitting it.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Nov-18-20 10:28 PM
2725692, Come on Frank
Posted by allStah, Wed Nov-18-20 10:41 PM
My man got moved out to the clippers, where he will be coming off the bench behind PG.

Avg baller.
2725693, Averaged 16/4/4 and was targeted by a title contender.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Nov-18-20 10:49 PM
They traded Shamet, who they had on an *incredible* deal, specifically to get Kennard.

Can't find a single basketball writer who thinks this isn't a real upgrade for the Clippers.
2725875, the team or trade isn’t the problem
Posted by allStah, Fri Nov-20-20 09:07 PM
It’s the DUKE player that is.

Tatum and Ingram are you only hope. And I love both.



2725915, which title contender?
Posted by blackfoot_female, Sat Nov-21-20 03:31 AM
because the clippers aren't one, unless you mean "Worst Team Ever."
2725874, im gonna vomit
Posted by cgonz00cc, Fri Nov-20-20 09:03 PM
2725917, He’s a slightly better Lee Melchionni
Posted by Beezo, Sat Nov-21-20 09:40 AM
2725922, He’s already better than literally any Terp since Steve Francis.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Nov-21-20 10:15 AM
It’s been over 20 years since you put a player into the NBA as good as Luke Kennard. Pretty wild.