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2682355, Tell why UNDISPUTED is better than FIRST TAKE Posted by Case_One, Fri Dec-21-18 10:43 AM
Shannon had the likeability that Steven A wishes that he had. The chemistry between Skiiiiiiiiiip and Shannon is really good. Max and Steven and Max have too many awkward moments and I can't tell if they actually like or dislike each other at times.
Who you got UNDISPUTED or FIRST TAKE
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
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2682356, Jalen & Jacoby/High Noon Posted by bentagain, Fri Dec-21-18 10:48 AM
I can't sit through these shows where dudes are just screaming on each other
I prefer, much much much more, the Jalen & Jacoby/High Noon formats...where dudes are exchanging ideas
instead of forcing opposing opinions on the commentators just for the spectacle of it.
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2682357, ^^^ this is it... Posted by Dstl1, Fri Dec-21-18 10:56 AM
plus, J&J and Bo and Pablo are actual friends in real life and the chemistry comes out in the show. They aren't just 2 dudes thrown together to make an argumentative/combative "show". I honestly didn't think people really took Undisputed or First Take seriously...same with the Colin Cowherd/Jason Whitlock amalgamation.
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2682362, Jalen's voice and cadence is annoying Posted by Case_One, Fri Dec-21-18 11:36 AM
>plus, J&J and Bo and Pablo are actual friends in real life >and the chemistry comes out in the show. They aren't just 2 >dudes thrown together to make an argumentative/combative >"show". I honestly didn't think people really took Undisputed >or First Take seriously...same with the Colin Cowherd/Jason >Whitlock amalgamation.
But Shannon and Skip don't just yell at each other. They have really good chemistry and offer up great points to consider.
I'm a huge Colin Cowherd fan. Jason Whitlock can fall in a deep hole.
. . Current Favorite Song: https://youtu.be/8v_KFHnPImY
"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
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2682366, LOL, little water pistol is the most etherest moment in ESPN history Posted by bentagain, Fri Dec-21-18 11:53 AM
Jalen's perspective is invaluable
You don't like his voice...but cosign Skip and Sharpe...?
😂
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2682368, lol...and said he's a huge Cowherd fan Posted by Dstl1, Fri Dec-21-18 11:55 AM
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2682376, “Water Pistol Pete Jr.”.....lmao Posted by DJR, Fri Dec-21-18 01:32 PM
Jalen killed him with that. Hilarious. And well deserved.
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2682419, of course you do Posted by Amritsar, Sat Dec-22-18 09:40 AM
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2682371, i cannot fucking stand Jacoby Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Dec-21-18 12:05 PM
i realized that watching Jalen on Get Up.
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2682395, Jacoby might be most worthless sports personality ever. Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Dec-21-18 04:53 PM
I don't HATE him.
He has almost never ever ever ever made an interesting point about anything, nor made me laugh about anything.
Ever.
Not once.
Rush Limbaugh was more interesting and compelling a sports figure than Jacoby. I mean from an actual sports perspective. I mean that.
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2682421, explain this... Posted by Dstl1, Sat Dec-22-18 11:17 AM
he has never made you laugh, so he's worthless? Also...how often do you listen to JandJ? Like, for real. He's not just some guy who got on a podcast because he knew Jalen. Dudes been with ESPN like 20 years and has written and produced all types of shit there and for Grantland. Shit that he's won awards and been nominated for awards for. I've seen you just openly dismiss him before and I'm willing to bet you don't know anything about him. Of course, you'll say you did, though.
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2682424, Jacoby does a nice job of setting Jalen up Posted by DJR, Sat Dec-22-18 12:35 PM
and they have good chemistry. I wouldn’t care for Jacoby on his own as an on air personality, but while I like Jalen well enough in other formats I think he’s easily at his best on Jalen and Jacoby. So Jacoby brings something to the table on air, IMO. I can’t say I’ve followed the show as much since it got on TV, but from like ‘13-‘16 I probably listened to 90% of the episodes.
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2682439, Bro, I've looked into everything he's done. You're lying. Posted by Orbit_Established, Sat Dec-22-18 05:20 PM
>he has never made you laugh, so he's worthless? Also...how >often do you listen to JandJ? Like, for real. He's not just >some guy who got on a podcast because he knew Jalen. Dudes >been with ESPN like 20 years and has written and produced all >types of shit there and for Grantland. Shit that he's won >awards and been nominated for awards for. I've seen you just >openly dismiss him before and I'm willing to bet you don't >know anything about him. Of course, you'll say you did, >though.
Post something artful and interesting that he's AUTHORED, as in, was an INDISPENSABLE piece of.
I've never heard a single thing he's done and been like "YO, that's fascinating!" For example: I cannot STAND Colin Cowherd. I don't like Bill Simmons. But BOTH of them are actually talented people. They do something. They author things. I LIKE Jacoby WAY WAY better as a PERSON than I do either. But he's doesn't do shit.
I don't care about how long dude's been a company man. And "producer" is often a paper title. I don't give a shit.
Make him disappear -- what does the show lose? What does the network lose?
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2682364, ESPN promotes SAS, Max and Will Cain getting a little testy. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Dec-21-18 11:47 AM
edit: its staged like wrasslin.
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2682365, Will Cain is horrible with ZERO personality or likability, Posted by Case_One, Fri Dec-21-18 11:51 AM
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
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2682370, to us. the MAGAset loves him. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Fri Dec-21-18 12:05 PM
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2682377, I like Shannon and SKILP, the two of them are comedy Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-21-18 01:53 PM
the two of them are some of the only on-air talking heads who openly root for their teams/favorite players
Shannon's LeBron related antics KILL me
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2682380, i can't believe people actually watch this shit Posted by 3xKrazy, Fri Dec-21-18 02:39 PM
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2682396, Must we Nas vs. Jay-Z everything? Geez. Both shows are good. Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Dec-21-18 04:57 PM
The one thing Max and Stephen A have is a mastery over the fight game, which is a sneaky advantage because boxing is headed towards a resurgence and MMA is still exploding in popularity.
Skip and Shannon are both football guys first and foremost. NFL is still the biggest, but they both lack seriously.
So First Take has way more breadth. And them being a black kid and a Jewish kid from NYC does breed a type of shit talking chemistry that works for me
Undisputed has two guys with big personalities who say and do wild shit. Very entertaining.
I don't watch either regularly, but both are effective
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2682405, Bayless and Stephen A both suck. Wish neither of them had shows instead of separate shows Posted by josephmurf2384, Fri Dec-21-18 08:06 PM
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2682414, 3 of those guys give me a headache, Kellerman is ok Posted by guru0509, Sat Dec-22-18 03:20 AM
The one with Tony Ravioli hosting all the sportswriters is cool though,
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