Reportedly, this is why he was mad.
I'm mad at these 4th quarter meltdowns, but this ...is something else

https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1054123831714037760?s=21

He couldn't just give Jenkins a phone call?

This is what destroys movements: corny posturing by
mostly black MEN.

Stop


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

Do you really believe Reid is posturing?

>Do you really believe Reid is posturing?

It's sad.

Dude cooned it up and barked in public

Yuck


He could have set up a public dialogue with Jenkins
at an inner city school

Why not do that?

I'll be honest, I don't know a ton about Eric Reid...but, he seems to have some legit gripes with Malcolm.

>I'll be honest, I don't know a ton about Eric Reid...but, he
>seems to have some legit gripes with Malcolm.

Because half his party hates him, but falls in line
when it comes time to go to war with the common foe.

We can't even have basic dialogue over nuances
over standing for the flag. We immediately go
to war with each other.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

not my place to call malcolm jenkins a sellout but he doesn't come across genuine , at least to me at all.


not to mention his constant shilling for Papa Johns

I also remember Jenkins giving Colin and the cause a platform at the SB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0DZ4-GFwjs

From the outside looking in

Malcolm has been using his platform for the cause since he came in the league

and I love his response

Hate when they see us fighting in public

definitely could have addressed this to the man off the field.

and Reid was the 1st with Kaep. I don't agree with it being done on the field, but Malcolm took a deal with the owners that was less than crumbs. The money the owner's pledged was diverted from funds for other causes to placate the player's coalition.

Give the man a call.

Hold a community event.

Discuss it.

Owners LAUGHING at this coonery.

This is exactly why they win.

EGO.

They weren't even close to fighting, trevor. A grown ass alpha male had some words for another alpha. Why are (white) people so outraged with this behavior? Because it's not taking place in a boardroom? Fuck that latte talk... hold court on this field right now like some real men!

Shit, if someone got snuffed, so be it.

>They weren't even close to fighting, trevor. A grown ass
>alpha male had some words for another alpha. Why are (white)
>people so outraged with this behavior? Because it's not taking
>place in a boardroom? Fuck that latte talk... hold court on
>this field right now like some real men!
>
>Shit, if someone got snuffed, so be it.

a respectful, "unified black men" exchange wouldn't mean a goddamned thing, NOW, at least. they got what they wanted from the players coalition, so they ultimately give two shits about this.

perhaps had this unity been exemplified during the ACTUAL meetings with the owners, things would have advanced further. one doesn't need to be a professional negotiator to realize that deal was shitty as fuck and they capitulated way too damn quick. them owners had one goal only: how to get them to stop kneeling, rather than how do we address their motivation FOR kneeling.

strong emotions motivate actions that impact change. A misstep doesn't doom you forever, especially with those that are sincerely supporting the cause. Those that were against weren't going to change their mind anyway at this point.

Malcolm is a politician and says all the right things, publicly. I am leery of his private/true actions.

And honestly, only people who paid close enough attention to the protest are really understanding or appreciating the backstory. It's a violent fucking sport, jawing beforehand from time to time will always be part of the game.

All that is bullshit.

This is just a case of another sensitive, performative
nigga who think he Killmonger in the cause.

It's why we ain't shit and ain't never gonna be shit.

He niggered it up ON THE FIELD while white owners
were in the stands laughing, and then came at MALCOM
JENKINS with more fire than he did the owners.

This why black people gonna lose.

Sensitive niggas with egos always fuck everything up.

I find it funny that you of all people chose to criticize their exchange while lacking the maturity to disagree with almost anyone in this format without taking personal shots. You're not the only one on here for sure who does it, but you seem to get off on it the most.

The pre game dust up was a misstep no doubt, but I have little faith that settling it "off the field" in the methods that you listed would have accomplished anything, or have even taken place. From the way that the coalition started to fragment, it seemed that "off the field" and "on camera" was doing to be two different things.

Did you have a negative opinion of Reid before this, and if not, was this solely a result of what he said on the field, or combined with what he said in the locker room after?

I'm curious to know how he could have gone at the owners harder as a single entity than as a unified players coalition, which Malcolm may have played a large role in fragmenting.

Again, was this the best way to play it? NO. However, I wouldn't dismiss anyone who risks their career and livelihood for their principles, and I don't believe he did it for show, his emotions got the best of him. I'm not going to allow that one act to wipe away all of the positive things he's done. This is fairly unchartered territory, as far as NFL players go, there is no blueprint to be followed.


>
>All that is bullshit.
>
>This is just a case of another sensitive, performative
>nigga who think he Killmonger in the cause.
>
>It's why we ain't shit and ain't never gonna be shit.
>
>He niggered it up ON THE FIELD while white owners
>were in the stands laughing, and then came at MALCOM
>JENKINS with more fire than he did the owners.
>
>This why black people gonna lose.
>
>Sensitive niggas with egos always fuck everything up.

I'm not going to allow that
>one act to wipe away all of the positive things he's done.

^This

Fascinating, because Malcom Jenkins been a good dude
in MULTIPLE causes for YEARS. But YOU HATED ON HIM
and said you didn't trust his intentions.

>This is fairly unchartered territory, as far as NFL players
>go, there is no blueprint to be followed.

^ALSO ironic

See: Jenkins, Malcom.

And yet you guy mad.





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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

> I'm not going to allow that
>>one act to wipe away all of the positive things he's done.
>
>^This
>
>Fascinating, because Malcom Jenkins been a good dude
>in MULTIPLE causes for YEARS. But YOU HATED ON HIM
>and said you didn't trust his intentions.
>
>>This is fairly unchartered territory, as far as NFL players
>>go, there is no blueprint to be followed.
>
>^ALSO ironic
>
>See: Jenkins, Malcom.
>
>And yet you guy mad.

Have never ever agreed with OE before, in memory.

But yes, your argument here is terrible and reflective of your own personal biases more than anything else.

> I'm not going to allow that
>>one act to wipe away all of the positive things he's done.
>
>^This
>
>Fascinating, because Malcom Jenkins been a good dude
>in MULTIPLE causes for YEARS. But YOU HATED ON HIM
>and said you didn't trust his intentions.
Didn't say he was a BAD dude, or that I disliked him. I don't personally KNOW him. Point was simply that in the negotiations with the owners, and based on the agreement that they came to, one that he led the charge on, I DON'T trust his intentions. It supports Reid's account of the break down. It was a bad deal, made when one side has lost its bargaining power. You wanna run down the particulars of that one and tell me how great it was?

And Reid wasn't the lone player who pulled out of that coalition:
_____________________________
Reid, Miami Dolphins safety Michael Thomas and Los Angeles Chargers offensive tackle Russell Okung announced their withdrawals last week from the Players Coalition.

“I agree with Eric Reid’s assessment also withdrew my involvement with the ‘Players Coalition,’ effective earlier today,” Okung wrote in a statement posted last week to his Twitter account. “This decision making process has not represented the will of many players, myself included. The NFL continues a disingenuous approach to player grievances, refusing to match the urgency of this moment. Their proposal is woefully inadequate. The NFL seems satisfied with an illusion of player agreement when in reality, we are far from establishing a meaningful resolution. Don’t believe the hype. I encourage players to continue to exercise their constitutional rights.”
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They couldn't even get a specific commitment to police accountability or law enforcement engaging with communities.

I know it may have been confusing since I didn't call dude a bunch of derogatory names irrelevant to the point, but that's where I stand on Jenkins in this situation.

It's cool if you think he was righteous in his actions last year, I just disagree

*shrugs*

https://twitter.com/1point4aGame/status/1056678616317259776

cuz you know who benefits.

i wish reid and jenkins could have found a way to hash all this out behind closed doors and stay united.

>cuz you know who benefits.
>
>i wish reid and jenkins could have found a way to hash all
>this out behind closed doors and stay united.

It's a really really bad agreement, with an awful foundation. Those with most power and influence are giving tokenary support at most. I don't know how you can bring together the side the sees it as that, and the one that believes it's a step in the right direction and an ability for the NFL to promote some change.

The NFL benefits from the agreement more than any other entity. Division amongst players is secondary.

I agree, it would have been better if the players could have stood their ground longer for a genuine partnership agreement. I'm curious as to what they thought they had to lose by not accepting the owners' proposal.

>https://twitter.com/1point4aGame/status/1056678616317259776

and about some of those ridiculous requirements of the deal, but everything else seems to comport with what was seen publicly.

i don't know if the players coalition employed any ADR professionals, but it's hard for me to fathom how they could view this agreement as anything resembling good for the players.

Not to take the...2 sides to every story trope...but...uh...yeah

https://theundefeated.com/features/irreconcilable-differences-why-the-nfl-players-coalition-split-apart/

Some of what he is saying, actually unfolded

Kap was invited to participate

It was suggested they meet in person — Kaepernick included — to get on the same page and define a united purpose going forward. Dallas was suggested as a central location.

“I’m in. I’m in. I’m in. I’ll go. I’ll attend,” members responded, one after the other. Reid did not reply.

“Hey, we’re just waiting on a response from you, brother,” a member said to Reid after roughly 30 minutes. “Can you make the meeting next Tuesday in Dallas? Or do you need to get back with us tomorrow?”

Why Reid wouldn’t attend the meeting is a matter of some dispute. He would tell ESPN The Magazine that he saw the invitation as an ultimatum and he wouldn’t be able to attend because of his grandmother’s funeral. But an examination of that group text shared with The Undefeated by a coalition member reveals other issues were at play that went to the heart of the coalition’s divide.

“Before I even consider attending this meeting and asking Colin to attend,” Reid replied, “are we in agreement that the agenda for this will be to discuss the logistics behind separating the coalition — which has always been focused on criminal justice reform — from a new entity in which Colin will be at the helm and the protesting players move forward in communication with the NFL to address the systematic oppression of black and brown people? Then, yes, I will try to make it on Tuesday or find another day that works for all of us. If not, there’s no point in having a meeting.”




Makes it sound like he was in it for his own coalition of him, Kap...and whoever they thought was 'protesting'

Why join the player's coalition if you knew
A) criminal justice reform was their goal...not systemic oppression
B) 1 person could make the decisions
?

"Coalition leader Anquan Boldin, while choosing not to kneel or make a public gesture, spoke out in hopes of giving a voice to the voiceless after a cousin was killed by a plainclothes police officer in 2015. Jenkins raised a fist in support of the Clean Slate Act, which would seal the criminal records of anyone with misdemeanor convictions — save violent and sex offenses — if they stay clean for 10 years, after his brother was charged with a felony for possessing small amounts of marijuana."

^^^so they're sellouts because...?

"Jenkins tried multiple times to bring Kaepernick into the group, but the former Super Bowl starter, while receptive and supportive, preferred to remain on his own."

can't argue with that...Kap has been quiet for some time now

"Still more talk finally produced dividends in September when Reid and several other players who had previously declined invitations joined the coalition. This didn’t mean it was smooth sailing. The new members disagreed with founding members on everything from who should be leader to what it was looking for from the league to how much focus should be on placed on addressing Kaepernick’s unemployment."

^^^makes it sound more like they tried to hijack the players coalition...not the other way around

Bottom line for me...there are players with genuine causes of their own that fall under the social justice platform

Because those platforms were not identical to what Kap may have intended...Reid decided to remove himself

In the almost year that has passed since this deal was announced...how much closer is Reid/Kap to forming their own group and negotiating their own deal?

Are they recruiting more NFL players to join their coalition?

Admire this guy's courage, etc...but there has to be a better way than this, IMO.

Trumps party hates him, his party gets in line come battle time.

But have zero apology for your stupidity in this thread.

Literally everything you could have a complaint about has been answered by Eric Reid.

But you've insulted him with all type of things you wouldn't dare say to his or another mans face.

>But have zero apology for your stupidity in this thread.
>
>Literally everything you could have a complaint about has been
>answered by Eric Reid.
>
>But you've insulted him with all type of things you wouldn't
>dare say to his or another mans face.

Don't mistake me for one these internet wimps

Go burn some incense, Hotep

You in here advocating being like Trump and soulless republicans, what kind of man does that?

Besides being asked to compromise some of his base principles, Eric Reid clearly espoused his reasons in fully logical and reasonable way.

Yet you are here, with this nonsense.

Talm bout you would call this man the n-word in a disparaging way.

https://youtu.be/mihnwNyIMUI?t=162

Just shut up stupid.

>You in here advocating being like Trump and soulless
>republicans, what kind of man does that

My point is that it is this kind of bickering that has
him firmly in office, but u knew that

>Besides being asked to compromise some of his base principles,
>Eric Reid clearly espoused his reasons in fully logical and
>reasonable way.

Not really.

>Yet you are here, with this nonsense.
>
>Talm bout you would call this man the n-word in a disparaging
>way.
>
>https://youtu.be/mihnwNyIMUI?t=162
>
>Just shut up stupid.

Sit your ass down.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

You're out of your depth and just angry at life.

>You're out of your depth and just angry at life.

Can't help you out with your personal issues

https://twitter.com/DianaMoskovitz/status/1056703338975088641

Why join?

Note; Reid and a couple of others didn't join the coalition until meeting with the owners were announced

?