http://www.isgrudengoneyet.com/


I wonder how accurate this is lol

like every game, every presser, every day.

i didn't think it was a good decision, especially at that price point.

this shit is hilarious.

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on 2 on 2.. ready.. break.

since Bush was in office?

Should've told me before I quit my job to become Mike Martz's agent.

The guy who went on record to say Peterman was the best QB in that draft class?


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to play with peterman in his last game.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

=========================================
I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

to your crumbling franchise and collect league revenue checks

What a dumpster fire

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Davis isn't independently wealthy like other owners. In fact, the reason the Raiders traded Mack was because they literally could not afford him. Yes, literally.

https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/01/raiders-owner-mark-davis-lacked-funds-to-pay-khalil-mack/

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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

https://d1tjohjvimcqgl.cloudfront.net/website/articles/10428_a11.jpg

:(

*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

players looking at the head. coaches looking at the tail.

gruden was looking at 3 years of work max with 7 years of paid vacation on the backend lol.

From what I understand, he's on all the billboards.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-claims-players-call-him-up-and-say-they-are-dying-to-play-for-raiders/

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says he sounds just like trump lol. thats the 1st thing i thought when i saw the headline too.

...could end up being like when the Cowboys traded Herschel Walker.

Okay, guy.

But he's more likely to use those picks on a bunch of FOOTBAW players who can't run or catch but have GRIT.

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1058839336240795650

he's compiled an incredible haul of draft picks. Unfortunately he's also the one who will be making the selections with them.

...in bruce allen. So maybe it won't be *that* bad.

On the other hand, his contract suggests he has a *lot* of leeway to fuck this up.

Don't matter to me either way. Regardless, I look forward to going to a game in Vegas in a few years, with or w/o him.

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They'll blame sucking again this year on him; and many people will buy it.



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the only people I ever hear saying that "don't have a racist bone in their body" are people who get caught being racist

literally nobody else uses that phrasing

>the only people I ever hear saying that "don't have a racist
>bone in their body" are people who get caught being racist
>
>literally nobody else uses that phrasing

tbf, he said he doesn’t have a “racial” bone in his body. So on top of lying he used the wrong term lol.

I’ve said this a thousand times, but from what I’ve witnessed, approximately 90-95% of adults don’t know how to apologize. Children are generally better at apologies. Granted that’s because they usually apologize as a reflex rather than a genuine reflection of what they’ve done wrong, but still, children are taught to just apologize and not make excuses. Somewhere along the line people lose that.

.

who knew? but that explains a lotta shit.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

‘Dat privilege.

In 14 full seasons of coaching, he’s made the playoffs a whopping 5 times. The last playoff game he won was the SB in January 2002 - nearly 20 years ago with a team he directly inherited. Definition of overrated.

>‘Dat privilege.
>
>In 14 full seasons of coaching, he’s made the playoffs a
>whopping 5 times. The last playoff game he won was the SB in
>January 2002 - nearly 20 years ago with a team he directly
>inherited. Definition of overrated.

I know that’s what you gotta pay to get him to get off espn because he was getting like 10 a year there too

But man I don’t think it’s any coach ever I’d give 10/100 off the rip

took them from mediocrity to the bowl. "his" team went to the SB the year after he left for tampa. I'm not so sure it's a blowout win with another coach as gruden had the cheat code (plus the raiders pro bowl center had a mental breakdown). those raider teams deserved a ring to show for how good they were but they faced one of the greatest defenses of all-time and got shafted by the tuck rule before their window evaporated. I don't blame davis for trying to rekindle that fire.

he called Goodell a bad word, in that same email.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32372275/jon-gruden-says-2011-emails-flagged-nfl-included-vulgar-criticism-commissioner-roger-goodell

on SNF a few mins ago. Dungy riding shotgun on giving Gruden a pass. give me a break.

>on SNF a few mins ago. Dungy riding shotgun on giving Gruden
>a pass. give me a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6folfVG8ho

I don't think I've thought about that movie in at least 15 years,

the way that these niggas are Kevin Costnering for Gruden's Whitney is fucking disgusting.

NEVER EVER EVER underestimate the ability of a white person to embody that cracker shit. EV-ER.

Lmaoooo man we do not matter at all smfh

>Lmaoooo man we do not matter at all smfh

So it’s not just me. I saw the other targets and figured he couldn’t survive all of that too. If it was ‘just’ him calling some folks spear chuckers or whatever, I thought he’d survive.

.

dude was wildin...
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html

He has lost all protection from the shield.

He probably won’t even be allowed a CFB announcing gig.

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

imagine being the guy having to go on tv and say the anti black shit wasnt that bad but the anti gay shit was a bridge too far.

https://twitter.com/MasterTes/status/1447752205092675587

'move forward and move on just like he did with his team...'

defending Gruden this weekend if given the chance.

the way they steamrolled over it through the weekend compared to everyone jumping off the porch for today's drops.

cuz they know his ass is exactly who his private conversations portray him to be.

black people are so broken smh.

>cuz they know his ass is exactly who his private
>conversations portray him to be.
>
>black people are so broken smh.

if it had only been the jenner stuff there would have been a whole media cycle about the Right Way to accept an apology

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Along with the anti-Black and anti-gay stuff, he's against protesting the national anthem, player safety protocols, and women referees. He thought Eric Reid should be fired, shit on Obama in 2012, and was e-mailing topless photos back and forth.

What a shit human being. And I'm sure like 95% of the league front-offices/brass are exactly like him.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/01/14/report-brentson-buckner-out-as-raiders-d-line-coach-in-favor-of-rod-marinelli/

Gruden may be a POS but if you can get Rod Marinelli to coach your D-Line you do it.

>Gruden may be a POS but if you can get Rod Marinelli to coach
>your D-Line you do it.

Not everything is a fucking woke crusade or a racist conspiracy. At the end of the day these guys want to win games regardless of how shitty you or I think they are. I would understand if he was pulling some Urb shit and trying to bring in some sorry ass college buddy to replace someone but this is not the one to use as an example.

were just e-mailing each other topless photos of Washington cheerleaders through their work addresses

>were just e-mailing each other topless photos of Washington
>cheerleaders through their work addresses

its not like they just said some flippant shit that was overheard or recorded they actually typed this shit out in an email?! that's why these "investigations" didn't take long lol...

work environment and harassing the cheerleaders. Allen used his WFT email account so that is how it all got uncovered. Allen was that brazen and felt like he wouldn’t face any consequences for anything so he felt safe enough to use his work email address instead of his personal email account.

he was working at ESPN functionally for the league at the time

mfs just don't care

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

and not his espn work email. It seems like Allen was using his WFT/work email, which is careless and shows how he didn’t believe he would face any consequences.

If Allen uses his personal email this probably would have never came out.

my bet is there was stuff in his Oakland Raiders era inbox from right now that's worse




www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

https://www.raiders.com/team/coaches-roster/deuce-gruden

The card will read “Thanks and Condolences”

>The card will read “Thanks and Condolences”

I find it at least mildly interesting that you can basically fingerbang some broad who isn’t your wife on camera instead of flying back with your team and get off easier than you can if someone digs into a server and finds out that you sent out some obviously bad emails 3-10 years. I’m not sure if we’re doing this right. No condolences for Gruden directly cuz it looks like he filled the bingo card of shit you can’t say or type, but these thoughts still cross my mind.

Dowhatchalike (I see guys and girls dancin) but be careful what you type?

..Does anyone have the final dollar amount paid before he resigned?





*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Talk about fucking up the bag.

SMH.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Someone definitely had it out for Gruden to allow or to leak
said information from 11 years ago, and it also illustrates the difference
between the person who receives checks and the person who writes them.

A legacy of substance that was built up over decades was tainted and
destroyed in a matter of minutes over words and opinions that were
expressed through one’s own private property.

The math doesn’t add up. If they take his, they can take yours.
That’s how quickly it can happen.

the OTHER kid is a smartmouth who fell upward until his mouth induced gravity to roll him in the other direction

Gruden said some shit in a personal email to a friend on his own personal
time. All that shit was words on a computer.

The WFT generated a work environment that was physically and mentally
toxic to female employees, and while the NFL privately and quietly investigated
that, it was Gruden’s email that THEY chose to leak?

( One entity said some shit. The other entity actually DID SOME SHIT )

So all the attention will be about Gruden and his controversial statements in private
, as opposed to the inhumane practices of the WFT.

People are more concerned about words and opinions than abuse and murder....
Dave Chappelle made that point in his comedy special.

Like I said, the math doesn’t add up....but hey it’s quite easy to tell people
2+2=5.

and Chucky was prolly emailing directly to Bruce Allens work email.

Snyder thinks Allen is the one who was leaking information and I’m sure all email accounts are being scraped for the sexual harassment lawsuits.

Maybe Snyder is also in this web or maybe.. just maybe, he was smart enough not to use his work email for his shenanigans.

Not sure what you are defending tho, Chucky called the Commissioner a ####### and had all types of bigoted shit to say about everybody.

He is an idiot and deserves more punishment than just losing his job.

and wtf are you talking about abuse and murder for? Its like you get paid to post dumb shit.

What else does he deserve, jail time? lol.

He did nothing criminal. He gave opinions and words on what he felt
in personal emails, and I’m not defending him. I’m focused on the
act and the attention towards it.

The whole purpose of bringing up murder was in relation to what Dave
Chapelle said about the cancellation of the Da Baby. Da Baby actually murdered someone, but people are only up in arms about his homophobic commentary.
That correlates to the WFT running a toxic environment that treated woman in a
inhumane way, but no attention will be given to that, and the focus will be on
Gruden’s words.

It was discovered over the summer that the NFL basically labeled black players
as sub-human people, who were not worthy of CTE health benefit claims because
they were perceived to be dumb and unintelligent. The NFL actually practiced that
rule, and no one said anything, or is saying anything. The NFL basically labeled
black NFL players as apes or animals, or to put it bluntly, dumb Ni**ers.

But let’s crucify and demonize a man for his bias and ignorant opinions
when he wasn’t even working for the NFL, nor did he use company’s property.
Yeah, let’s make him the poster child and scapegoat, while the real racist,
inhumane actions are being disregarded.

Hey, but continue to fall for the banana in the tailpipe and lack human
sensibility.

I couldn’t give a fock about a man’s email rant or NAME CALLING, when
the actual league itself is running A PHYSICALLY RACIST, INHUMANE
INSTITUTION.

One reporter is actually talking about that on ESPN.

he deserves to lose some of that paper.

my response to my buddies last night was I guess he learned not to put the fact he is a dickhead in writing.

is Gruden’s offensive emails?

Where are Bruce Alllen’s email responses, why haven’t those been leaked?

I see an institution protecting itself and putting the spotlight on a person
who wasn’t even the target for the investigation.

>is Gruden’s offensive emails?
>
>Where are Bruce Alllen’s email responses, why haven’t
>those been leaked?
>
>I see an institution protecting itself and putting the
>spotlight on a person
>who wasn’t even the target for the investigation.

at the time.

But my actually point is that the leak was one sided. Only
Gruden’s words were leaked, not the responses by Allen.

and was involved in the back and forth…

but I believe since he is no longer employed by an NFL team it wouldn’t do much good to fire him from a job he no longer has.. lol

Gruden represents the shield as a current HC. This is why he had to go.

Snyder already fired Allen so what more do you want to happen to him? I’m sure Snyder wants that severance money back.

saving himself some money from that atrocious contract.

>If they take his, they can take
>yours.
>That’s how quickly it can happen.

And I haven't been emailing racist and homophobic shit to people at my job or to people at jobs I may want someday.

So... I feel okay about my job security in that regard? Maybe that's just me, though!

Mark Davis was. Roger Goodell is simply the commissioner of a league that
is made up of different companies, who profit through revenue sharing.

So your perception isn’t factual.

The company Jon Gruden worked for was the Raiders, who are members
of the NFL.

Those bullshit ass emails could have easily been addressed in private, since they
have shit to do with the actual investigation of a toxic institution.

You’re a smart cookie, so you should be able to recognize
someone being intentionally dogged.

Mark Davis did because he has to protect his brand.

Smarten up fellah

Not because he wanted too.

Cut out the bologna, son.

he wasn’t forced out by the NFL

He was forced out by his stupidity.

package

Geraldo is 78 so I assume they're looking for a replacement. You know, the well-known borderline celeb with a quirky "personality." Their guy just fell into their laps.

>

..The same way Sterling was forced to sell the Clippers.

https://sports.yahoo.com/instead-of-offering-sympathy-for-the-wft-victims-tanya-snyder-only-showed-it-for-herself-210136425.html

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31731976/washington-football-team-names-tanya-snyder-co-ceo-franchise

Instead, the org received a $10M fine as they slid Tanya Snyder into place as if that would make things better. Yet, she didn't even bother to apologize or show empathy toward the women that brought the original lawsuit against the org (including cheerleaders, front office employees, media, etc).

*So Jon Gruden is forced to resign for trading nude pics with Bruce Allen and making bigoted/disparaging LGTBQ+ community (but NOT the racist comments made about a Black man), resulting in the loss of $60M, while the the org gets a slap on the wrist while Snyder hides behind his wife?

BULLSHIT.

The Snyder family needs to be removed from the NFL for allowing this culture to exist. I said it here:

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2716068&mesg_id=2716068&listing_type=search#2716511

I'll keep saying it every chance I get until it happens.

The Gruden step-down was the correct move, but the other correct move should be nuking the Snyders' involvement in the league. Been that way for a long time now.

But everything you just stated is 100.

Sterling was forced to sell over racially offensive words he stated
in the privacy of his own home, where he was secretly recorded.
But Dan Snyder actually owns an institution, where female employees
were sexually harassed.

This is absolute bullshit. Clearly someone in the league office had it out for Gruden and used this investigation as an opportunity to burn him once they found these emails. But this was AFTER they gave the WFT a slap on the wrist for what is one of MANY acts of misconduct from that team and that CLEARLY is toxic. It's a typical hypocritical move from the NFL. Jerry Richardson was forced out for less. Once has to wonder what Snyder has over the league that he got to keep his team when its pretty clear he should be gone from the NFL all together.

Tell that to Jerry Richardson and Donald Sterling. I thought the NBA would never get Sterling out. With the way things are going now......if they want Snyder out they can get him out. He has handed them all the ammo they need and then some.

a coach...

>Tell that to Jerry Richardson and Donald Sterling. I thought
>the NBA would never get Sterling out. With the way things are
>going now......if they want Snyder out they can get him out.
>He has handed them all the ammo they need and then some.

I just don't feel like were asking the right questions.....not can we get them out but WHY isn't he gone. I gotta believe the other owners want this asshole gone ESPECIALLY after this Gruden shit. You got other teams catching strays now too off of your bullshit?!?!

I remember either reading or seeing on TV many moons ago that technically all the league owners collectively are Roger Goodell's boss. If that is the case, that might explain why the Snyder family were given slaps on the wrist compared to what happened with John Gruden.

If what I typed is accurate regarding the power structure, it may take the NYTimes or some other newspaper organization to shame the league into revealing more salacious emails if team owners are involved by leaking them since I'm cure the league will want to hide as much dirt as possible.

involved so it may get buried similar to Goodell destroying the Spygate tapes after determining there was nothing to see in order to protect the shield...

Just to get back at Allen and the Grudens

and I doubt he even had to leak them.

Snyder thought Allen was the snitch and prolly looked at his emails and screamed “Gotcha bitch” and then told Goodell to look thru the emails because he had nothing to hide.

After deleting all his shitty emails I bet.. lol

>and I doubt he even had to leak them.
>
>Snyder thought Allen was the snitch and prolly looked at his
>emails and screamed “Gotcha bitch” and then told Goodell
>to look thru the emails because he had nothing to hide.
>
>After deleting all his shitty emails I bet.. lol


Unfortunately for Bruce, that whole power play with the minority WFT owners didn't work, and Snyder still has his team

As Bomani pointed out on Lebetard, the first place it was leaked to was the Wall Street Journal, which the NFL likes to use.

The likely leaked the DeMaurice Smith stuff first thinking it force the Raiders hand. When that didn't work, they leaked everything to the NYT,, and that did the job.

I tried to tell Steeler fans how shitty and toxic that org was and they were all on some “if THEY cut him he has to be terrible”

and now these fools think Gruden was sacrificed so DeMaurice Smith (sp) could get re-elected.

huh?

The organization sucks but a big part of the problem is Snyder's interference with the actual football people making decisions.

Snyder doesn't do it as much as he used to but this was the last time I remember him overruling his staff.

If Haskins turns out to actually be decent, it'll be sheer dumb luck that he grew up in DC and went to Snyder's son's high school... bc that's really all Snyder needed to know about him.

...that people are strangely under-selling distributing topless photos of WFT cheerleaders. As he says that one thing in those e-mails that very well may be illegal. Like, if you heard someone went to jail over it, you wouldn't be surprised.

if they were underage.

from the Buccaneers ring of honor!

God damn.

WORDS, NAME CALLING,?

OJ Simpson murdered a woman and brought shame to the image and brand
of the Buffalo Bills and he wasn’t removed from the ring of honor.

so nah.. I’m not surprised they removed him.

and neither are you.

I can appreciate playing devil’s advocate but I don’t think you are playing.

We can easily come up with words that would motivate any organization to sever ties with someone… you just don’t think Gruden’s words reach that level.

and the owner said no.

This is the opposite. This is the owner(s), the glazer family, simply
removing him. No group of people were asking for him to be removed.
It appears to be an excommunicado (John Wick lingo) act by the NFL itself,
where they are going to banish him from everything that is NFL related.

>from the Buccaneers ring of honor!
>
>God damn.

https://twitter.com/CoachJeffFisher/status/1448089204345475073

>https://twitter.com/CoachJeffFisher/status/1448089204345475073

Will be interesting to see if more emails about him come out..

they didn’t want anyone seeing emails calling him all types of names and blackballing him from the league.

ive heard a range of 10 to 80 million

>they didn’t want anyone seeing emails calling him all types
>of names and blackballing him from the league.
>
>

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/sports/colin-kaepernick-nfl-settlement.html

I remember folks feeling like it's not even close to being enough. I wish we could know the inner workings of the deal.

Now that that part is over...be gone
But it is incredibly interesting
...listening to ESPN refer to Gruden as 'nfl hc'...
Like he wasn't an ESPN employee at the time
Not to digress, but I think some people missed a major part of the Rachel Nichols story
She wasn't criticizing Maria Taylor
She was criticizing ESPN
...not the exact quote, but she described ESPN executives as YT male privileged Trump supporters...
The Gruden story solidifies that
Gruden not only had one of the most coveted sports jobs calling MNF
ESPN also gave him his own feature...Gruden's quarterback camp
That would fit the brand that Rachel was criticizing
Along with having Ryan Smith host Get Up on Tuesday
...but anyway...

Somebody was sitting on these emails
What was released to date were during Gruden's time at ESPN
Motivation? What is there to gain from this
Opportunity? Who could be behind
Gain? Who gains the most from this

ESPN is so entrenched with the NFL, I can't see how this benefits the network, or why ESPN would want to do this
Obviously, they had the opportunity

The story feels like a rabbit hole, with +600K emails between some pretty big names

Really interested in seeing how the story progresses from here
I just hope people don't settle for Gruden being gone
Feels like there is so much more here.

The NFL wants this to be over and its weird how a coach in Vegas was the only one to lose his job at the end of this investigation of the WFT.

Of course there are people like Allen and others who were fired in 2018/19 but this cant be it.

>The NFL wants this to be over and its weird how a coach in
>Vegas was the only one to lose his job at the end of this
>investigation of the WFT.
>
>Of course there are people like Allen and others who were
>fired in 2018/19 but this cant be it.
>
>
this thread will continued to be pulled. i will be stunned if Gruden is the biggest bomb drop...

Unless Snyder is removed I can’t see anyone else making the perp walk that would satisfy us.

They (media) asked him to speak on the Gruden situation, and
he said no comment, and to go ask the NFL. They have all the answers.

Mark’s hand was definitely forced by the fraternity of owners to
get rid of Gruden. He was firm on keeping him after the first email of
offensive comments were revealed, but that second reveal of
offensive emails was inescapable.

One man is taking the ultimate fall for a league that has a history
of racism and a team that cultivated a toxic, inhumane workplace.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/13/media/espn-adam-schefter-bruce-allen-emails/index.html


lmao at Jemele Hills quote:

"I've been a journalist for over 20 years now. I've never let a source proofread, preview or edit any story," Hill tweeted. "Majority of journalists I know have never done this either. That is a huge journalistic NO-NO. Young journalists, that is not how it's done. Ever."

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nf-ls-top-lawyer-jeff-pash-arranged-favors-traded-diversity-jokes-in-emails-ex-wft-president-bruce-allen-034343924.html

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32407532/report-nfl-finds-no-other-current-team-personnel-implicated-washington-football-team-email-investigation

the news media is showing their subservience by taking the NFL at face value and reporting it as fact

Headline: "Nothing bad found on 650k e-mails during investigation of bad things, per NFL"

and everything keeps humming along, no one of consequence giving a fuck.

the "unchangeable" moniker of the WFT did so in like 2 weeks once big sponsors threatened to walk. amazing that no other such change has even been ENTERTAINED across the league.

>and everything keeps humming along, no one of consequence
>giving a fuck.
>
>the "unchangeable" moniker of the WFT did so in like 2 weeks
>once big sponsors threatened to walk. amazing that no other
>such change has even been ENTERTAINED across the league.

Roger Goodell, the owners, and several other power folks do NOT want to play the diggin up in your closets/emails/voicemails/texts game. Tag all of the evil in the nfl to Gruden, destroy the emails after claiming it’s all good, keep playing football games, and hope like hell that no big shit players get COVID in a way that can’t be covered/discussed in a protective way.

These people understand their audience. Put Gruden’s head on a stick publicly for the folks who love seeing blood and keep on movin, don’t stop noooo. See if anyone cares for real.

>Roger Goodell, the owners, and several other power folks do
>NOT want to play the diggin up in your
>closets/emails/voicemails/texts game. Tag all of the evil in
>the nfl to Gruden, destroy the emails after claiming it’s
>all good, keep playing football games, and hope like hell that
>no big shit players get COVID in a way that can’t be
>covered/discussed in a protective way.
>
>These people understand their audience. Put Gruden’s head on
>a stick publicly for the folks who love seeing blood and keep
>on movin, don’t stop noooo. See if anyone cares for real.