>-The argument we are having, which you initiated, is that it
>was unreasonable to expect Kyrie to lead the Cavs to the
>playoffs in his 3rd year given the roster.

yep. because GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW NOW...dion ain't take a step in development and came to camp FAT and bennett was the GOAT bust...and Bynum's knees were hot garbage...everyone expected too much.


>^^^Given all of those, you're dead ass wrong. When the season
>started it was VERY reasonable to expect the Cavs to finish
>better than the damn bobcats.

based on #1 pick bennett and dion IMPROVING.

And the bobcats made the
>playoffs. Hawks only ended up the 8th seed because Horford
>got hurt, otherwise they probably finish higher.

cavs players got hurt too, most importantly kyrie.

My point in
>bringing up the hawks was the win total (38) was reasonable
>for the Cavs to attain to get to the playoffs. My point in
>bringing up the Bobcats was to counter your "hawks roster"
>argument by saying the Bobcats roster was very comparable to
>the Cavs.
>
>Now, that's all I said - he could and should have lead that
>team to the playoffs. In hindsight, I can say...well given
>what happened (Bynum's knees, Deng not assimilating and
>getting hurt, rift with Dion and the "buddy ball" statement,
>Bennett being a bust, etc) I can see why they fell short. But
>you act like it's sin to have had an expectation of a dude
>with tons of talent helping a roster that looked good on paper
>make the playoffs. C'mon man.

you having that expectation argument with yourself and tryna force it on me. i'm saying that roster was trash...BECAUSE IT WAS.

you ain't gon sit in 2017 talmbout expections for that trash roster as if it matters NOW. guess what? i expected steph and wall to get fried for not making their first 3 years. it has never happened. wonder why.