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2619975, RE: Let's pick this apart...
Posted by auragin_boi, Fri Aug-11-17 01:14 PM
>IF he was soooo great, they wouldn't have traded him. Lu was
>having lingering complications from that botched spinal tap in
>the SUMMER of 2013, after the last of his AS selections.

Jimmy was gaining on him.

>https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/31/4574616/luol-deng-injury-spinal-tap-chicago-bulls-nba
>
>so, like i said, he was damaged goods. he ain't looked like
>himself SINCE that botched procedure.

LMAO...you use to come for us for talking about Lu's injuries, now you calling him damaged goods.

>http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10255605/cleveland-cavaliers-agree-trade-andrew-bynum-chicago-bulls-luol-deng
>
>and he WAS INJURED before the trade.
>
>"He has been bothered by an injured Achilles that caused him
>to miss nine games over the past six weeks."
>
>SHUT YO WILLY NILLY WITH THE FACTS ASS UP!

lol...we gonna call a leg ache damaged goods? Ok, fam I'll concede here. He had a sore lower leg for a few weeks.

>>Deng got hurt AFTER the trade but he was by no means damaged
>>goods.
>
>he was damaged goods. his body was beat up.

LMAO Ok

>>
>>And since we getting 'dirty', he also had:
>>
>>#1 pick Anthony "better than LJ" Bennett
>
>my biased opinion don't matter. what matters is he was the
>worst #1 ever and didn't help the team AT ALL.

This ain't about your bias, it's about expectations. Before ANY of us knew what these dudes would be, it was reasonable to expect a #1 pick to contribute to a team that seemed to be improved and help it compete for/make the playoffs.

>>#4 pick Tristan
>
>a specialist big. cool. real effective when the scoring is
>handled by a 4 other starters, because he's not a scoring
>option.

Still a top 5 pick, still a starting caliber big.

>>#7 pick Dion "I got better when I left" Waiters
>
>he is NOBODY...don't try to pass him off as good. this is the
>PROBLEM!
>
>a 16/4/3 on 42%FG and 65%FT(!!!!!!) 6-3 SG?
>
>GARY HARRIS IS ALREADY BETTER THAN DION WAITERS!

Great to alladat but when he was drafted, you cysed him, ppl thought he'd be at least 'ok' and had some potential (they compared him to D-Wade dog). Fair to say a #7, #4 and #1 pick helping another #1 pick along with a 2 x allstar make the playoffs in a weak ass east is reasonable right?

>
>>Andy Varejao
>>Spencer Hawes
>>Delly
>>CJ Miles
>>Jarrett Jack
>
>again. THIS is the problem. you dead ass serious. who are
>they, dogg? that supposed to mean something. andy get hurt
>before break every year or miss a good chunk of games.

take them hindsight goggles off my dude. Them are good vets, playoff tested that could help a young team make a playoff run in the weak ass, only need 38 wins to qualify, eastern conference.

>deng put up 14 on 41% as a Cav...OH WELL. i guess that's
>better than clark and gee tho?

We won't get into this, though I recall at the time, Deng said the locker room wasn't right so he wasn't getting the opportunities he should have been getting as one of the top 2 players on the team. And it was a new system so...

>it wasn't REASONABLE for step and wall tho? they missed in
>year three with better rosters.

Wall got roasted, "Smooth fat entering training camp, no-jacket-johnny"...he got his. Steph had ankle problems, wasn't a #1 pick and most people didn't even think he'd have a career after that 2nd ankle issue. His career has been a complete surprise.

>look, i ain't gon keep rehashing this. y'all dudes are biased.
>every excuse for all these other dudes, but there's some
>disconnect with kyrie and it for a whole variety of
>reason...duke stuff and he's a natural rival with a lot of
>other PGs, who ain't get the shine or have the success he did.
>but, tryna list past prime broke down jarret jack is a solid
>piece is WACK.

But you DO keep rehashing and showing your "duke, me and K against the world" propaganda you always spout. A REASONABLE person would say, the team Kyrie had in yr 3 should have made the playoffs.

>>That same year, the Hawks won 38 games and got the 8th seed.
>
>>C'mon B. Stop whining about this, you should have expected
>>playoffs too.
>
>these hawks?
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Atlanta_Hawks_season
>
>yeah, they should have made it. MILSAP, TEAGUE, HORFORD,
>KORVER, LOU WILL...you see how those names just just off the
>screen and your brain immediately processes them as "EFFECTIVE
>PLAYERS WHO ARE STILL TITLE CALIBUR PIECES TO THIS DAY"

horford got hurt (tore his peck), and most of those dudes were in their prime. At the time, only 2 had been allstars. Just like the cavs had (2 allstars).

Dion: >a 16/4/3 on 42%FG and 65%FT(!!!!!!) 6-3 SG?
Teague: 16/6/2 on 43%FG and 32% from 3 (dion was 5%pts higher)

If you look at the top 7 (minus Horford cuz he got hurt 20% through the season) the Cavs are VERY comparable.

And I'll do you one better. The damn bobcats won 43!! games with Kemba, Al Jeff, MKG, Josh McRoberts, Sessions and Gary Neal.

http://xmr.wdfiles.com/local--files/team%3Afriends-of-humanity/foh.jpg

>but yo dumb ass gon list hawes with a straight face...some
>damn CJ miles, who was STARTING!!!!!

CJ Miles STILL starts and Hawes was better than McRoberts. But Kemba made due with 78 games of him starting. And MKG was a offensive liablity...JUST LIKE TRISTAN.

>don't talk to me about this no more.
>
>and rose will be DIRECTLY responsible for approximating
>kyrie's production. i don't wanna hear no damn excuse. unless
>ky's still there or justise ends up a cav in a trade, i am all
>in for boston knocking the cavs out...and it's because rose is
>THAT FAR from being close to kyrie.
>
>GOOD!

You brought ME up in this discussion. lol But I won't talk to you about this anymore because you ain't nothing but a Kyrie apologist over your OWN hurt feelings that he couldn't do what was reasonably expected of him as a #1 pick with roster decent enough to make the playoffs in the east. Like kemba did.

And I don't give a damn about Rose and what the Cavs do so cool...have fun with that.