This is a debate I was involved in on Sunday.

If you take the Top 12 HS Boys All Americans, let's say 2017's Top 12, and put them against the Top 12 WNBA All Stars...who wins in a Two half, 40 minute game?

I know this is OKP, and some of y'all may be too technical to want to answer...but in general, who would you pick?

Poll question: Top 12 HS Boys All Americans vs WNBA Top 12 All Stars

Poll result (17 votes) The HS Boys All Americans win (15 votes) Vote The WNBA All Stars win (2 votes) Vote

them bum ass back cut layups getting tossed.

Jason Tatum is like a year removed from high school.

For the WBNA all-stars to win.

when you start talking about the top schools/players you gotta give the advantage to the boys.

But an average WNBA squad vs an average ol John Adams high??? i'm rolling witht he ladies.

women just dont compare at sports lol. it's not sexist to acknowledge that.

fact is, rousey WOULD get fucked up by plenty regular ass well-conditioned guys with NO MMA experience and the best WNBA players WOULD get they asses blown out by the best high schoolers in the country.

You're not saying that the WNBA pro team would get beat by a team of regular/conditioned high school boys. You're saying that they would get beat by a team of the best high school boys (or arguably a team of very good high school boys). If you want to argue that Rousey would get beat a high school boy that trains MMA, that's a separate question, but an average off the street dude is getting messed up 90 percent of the time.

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/

women. are. not. as. good. at. sports.

call it a fitness drill if you want. they still got worked.

And linked it.

Instead you linked one that made my point.

Smart.

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i went to a regular ass public high school and we had like 3 or 4 dudes go D1. i know they aint losing.

>i went to a regular ass public high school and we had like 3
>or 4 dudes go D1. i know they aint losing.

We low key we're a NC powerhouse for a minute

>i went to a regular ass public high school and we had like 3
>or 4 dudes go D1.

Your ass did NOT go to a regular public high school then. Most teams in the country will be *lucky* to have *one* player go D1. And most teams would get their asses kicked. Brittany Griner is bigger than the center of most HS men's basketball teams.

But I knew schools to only have 1-2 players make it that far

SMH....

But someone made the comparison about athleticism between men and women as:

Professional Men > Collegiate Men > Professional Women > Amateur Men

I would favor the women, if only because a team of professionals is going to be tremendously more skilled and experienced than a team of high-school athletes.

Finding the point spread would be a real debate though.

trained man >>> trained woman >>>>>>>>>> untrained man > untrained woman

sport specifically: trained men from the elites all the way down to mid level men that compete at whatever the sport is will beat the best women at that sport.

trained women will crush amateur or untrained men, often by ridiculous margins (think the fastest woman in the world vs some jackass on the street).

untrained men vs untrained women: who cares they all suck

When I was 16, my step dad took me over to a neighborhood in STL (Florrisant or Hazelwood area I think...don't quote me, it's been while) to hoop. These were his stomping grounds growing up so he took me to a park over there to hoop (being from ESL, I didn't go deep northside STL for anything at that age).

We get out there and dudes can hoop a lil but there is this chic out there KILLING! I mean, working dudes off the dribble, pull up, layup, whatever. Handing out WORK! We are a few games down so I get to scout.

We get on after she loses and we pick her up for our squad. We ran the court the rest of the day. Won like 5-6 games. Me and her took turns killing grown ass men and my step father would drop a bucket here in there.

Turned out she was a pro athlete that played overseas (this was pre-WNBA so a woman had to play overseas to play pro). She was better than some of the dudes on our HS basketball team.

I have no doubt a women's pro team could beat your regular 15-9 boys basketball squad.

Back in the days.

Getting in the lane with ease.

How can you have a winning record and be sorry? Seems like a pretty average or above average team depending on the quality of their competition.

how is a high school athlete more athletic than a pro in a team sport?
HS players don't have the same stamina and absolutely none of the experience.

the women would just beat them on head fakes alone

Which means at least half that team will be in the NBA in 2 years.

I don't know why some are talking about some small school where the center is 5'11 or something. Obviously the WNBA would wash teams like that. But HS All Americans that are about to be D-1 stars and maybe NBA players? That means they got the size and athleticism that women can't match.

perhaps you missed it.

HS All-Americans, man, guys on their way to D1. The vertical element of the game is not there for the women. Most rebounds are taken below the rim but when you have a big advantage you go vertical more often. Offensive rebounds would be an issue. Defending the rim would be an issue. The boys would also have more speed and explosiveness so defending the drive would be tough. I am not agreeing with people saying it would be a massacre but I do think HS AA level is sort of the tipping point where genetic difference becomes a determining factor.

Sort of like a Princeton vs big-time program matchup. I don't think the WNBA team would have all that much trouble scoring but what could they do on the defensive end?

best HS players by position, according to ESPN...



ayton PF/C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mYd6Y78jpY

bamba PF/C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC67c1VBmaI

porter SF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPnXg2jR2qc

trent SG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqVNojxvPME

duval PG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Jr99orqwI&t=81s


I don't care if you pick 5 cheryl millers at their very best...THEY. GETTIN. BLOWN. OUT!

The rest are going to be D1 stars.

How could you possibly think it would be close?

I went 2015 because it's got guys that are currently in the NBA

Dwayne Bacon (No. 20 in the ESPN 100, Florida State)
Antonio Blakeney (No. 14, LSU)
Isaiah Briscoe (No. 13, Kentucky)
Jaylen Brown (No. 2, California)^
Thomas Bryant (No. 22, Indiana)^
Cheick Diallo (No. 11, Kansas)^
Henry Ellenson (No. 5, Marquette)
Jawun Evans (No. 36, Oklahoma State)
Luke Kennard (No. 23, Duke)
Dedric Lawson (No. 26, Memphis)
Ben Simmons (No. 1, LSU)
Diamond Stone (No. 7, Maryland)^
Carlton Bragg (No. 21, Kansas)
Jalen Brunson (No. 17, Villanova)
Deyonta Davis (No. 16, Michigan State)
P. J. Dozier (No. 25, South Carolina)
Brandon Ingram (No. 12, Duke)^
Chase Jeter (No. 9, Duke)
Malik Newman (No. 4, Mississippi State)^
Ivan Rabb (No. 6, California)^
Malachi Richardson (No. 19, Syracuse)
Caleb Swanigan (No. 8, Purdue)^
Allonzo Trier (No. 15, Arizona)
Stephen Zimmerman (No. 10, UNLV)^

I'm the leader of the "people don't give female athletes credit" brigade (and one dude in particular is doing extra in this post, unsurprisingly), but they have NO ANSWER physically for nearly anyone here.

Luke Kennard is the size of their second-biggest WNBA All-Star. Let alone Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Caleb Swanigan, Deyonta Davis, Cheick Diallo, Thomas Bryant, etc.

And people act like this team can't shoot? Put Simmons at PG, Kennard, Ingram, Swanigan 2-4, and whoever the worst guy over 6'10 is at 5 (probably Chase Jeter, honestly). Literally everyone on the floor bigger than everyone other than Griner, literally everyone longer than everyone other than Griner, three guys who can shoot the 3 really well, and a ball-handler who could bowl over *literally* everyone on the opposition.

>Dwayne Bacon (No. 20 in the ESPN 100, Florida State)
>Antonio Blakeney (No. 14, LSU)
>Isaiah Briscoe (No. 13, Kentucky)
>Jaylen Brown (No. 2, California)^
>Thomas Bryant (No. 22, Indiana)^
>Cheick Diallo (No. 11, Kansas)^
>Henry Ellenson (No. 5, Marquette)
>Jawun Evans (No. 36, Oklahoma State)
>Luke Kennard (No. 23, Duke)
>Dedric Lawson (No. 26, Memphis)
>Ben Simmons (No. 1, LSU)
>Diamond Stone (No. 7, Maryland)^
>Carlton Bragg (No. 21, Kansas)
>Jalen Brunson (No. 17, Villanova)
>Deyonta Davis (No. 16, Michigan State)
>P. J. Dozier (No. 25, South Carolina)
>Brandon Ingram (No. 12, Duke)^
>Chase Jeter (No. 9, Duke)
>Malik Newman (No. 4, Mississippi State)^
>Ivan Rabb (No. 6, California)^
>Malachi Richardson (No. 19, Syracuse)
>Caleb Swanigan (No. 8, Purdue)^
>Allonzo Trier (No. 15, Arizona)
>Stephen Zimmerman (No. 10, UNLV)^

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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