pretty much an outta jail free card for you on this flimsy ass, unfounded agenda (since you have to produce a teammate who actually got a shitty second contract).

you lost one war (vs steph) now you wanna move onto a 42-year-old guy who's already retired. oddly enough it's just as much of a losing battle. irving will never be the no. 1 guy on a finals team. he will never win a scoring title. he will never lead the league in steals. he will never win an MVP. his resume will look bare by comparison. that's all i'm gonna say here. if he wins an MVP or leads a team to the finals as a No. 1 guy or wins four scoring titles, OK, i'll eat my words. so far nobody buying kev's statement but you. don't you have an MVP in the making to compare with vinnie johnson or something?