Poll question: If you were starting/building an NBA basketball team, WHICH player would you first take to start building yours? List anyone I may have missed in your comments.

Poll result (27 votes) Magic Johnson (3 votes) Vote Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (2 votes) Vote Lebron James (11 votes) Vote Bill Russell (0 votes) Vote Tim Duncan (0 votes) Vote Michael Jordan (11 votes) Vote

You'd have the easiest time superteaming around him IMO.

He's probably in the LEAST favorable era for the
way he plays, and has still been the best player
in the last 25 years by miles.

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Interesting.

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Right today in postionless basketball? Bron.

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Jordan had a 32ppg/8rpg/8apg season so it isn't that he can't be the 'do it all' guy. He just doesn't fit squarely into that peg.

Magic would never be the guy to get you 35 nightly if that's what you needed. Again, Magic could score and he could get 35 but doesn't fit squarely.

LeBron isn't a natural scorer but because of his size, he could get 30 nightly and he has better rebounding ability than both Jordan and Magic given his athletic ability. He's more physically gifted than both due to his size/strength. And he's a better defender than Magic when keyed in.

I think you couldn't go wrong with either of these 3 or Cap but Bron fills more holes when there are deficits than anyone on the list. His only draw back is heart/finishing. If he had more gumption and a slightly more fluid offensive game which allowed him to create better shots for himself when defenses clamped late in games, he'd literally be the perfect basketball player.

All that dumb shit, and you didn't mention his court vision,
which is probably his best trait.

You guys' continued efforts to try and diminish this
dude is hilarious.

He's no more 'naturally gifted' than Jordan was.

Lebron is just a fantastic player with fantastic SKILLS.

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>All that dumb shit, and you didn't mention his court vision,
>which is probably his best trait.

I didn't mention it because the 3 guys I compared him to had court vision equal to LeBron's. That wasn't Jordan's lane though he could do it and Magic's was arguably better but they all know how to make the 'right' pass.

Now what was so 'dumb' about my assessment? You know, just because you like to be an a**hole on here doesn't mean the point you're trying to make is right or relevant.

>You guys' continued efforts to try and diminish this
>dude is hilarious.

When you respond to me nigga, respond in singularities. It ain't 4 people thinking for me or typing. If you see some record of me diminishing Bron then show me and make a case. Otherwise, keep that dumb nigga agenda shit off me fam.

>He's no more 'naturally gifted' than Jordan was.

Actually, IMO, he is. He's stronger, taller and faster. Jordan was just as athletic, had a better grasp of footwork and fundamentals and was more agile.

>Lebron is just a fantastic player with fantastic SKILLS.

Who said he wasn't? I literally said if he had 2 more skills, he'd be basketball's perfect player. Wisdom is knowing when to speak and when to STFU sometimes O_E.

>I didn't mention it because the 3 guys I compared him to had
>court vision equal to LeBron's. That wasn't Jordan's lane
>though he could do it and Magic's was arguably better but they
>all know how to make the 'right' pass.

LMAO

Jordan was not as good a passer than Lebron.

Magic was, but Lebron was never feeding Kareem in the
post. (Lebron would *easily* average 10 assists per if
he did)


>When you respond to me nigga, respond in singularities. It
>ain't 4 people thinking for me or typing. If you see some
>record of me diminishing Bron then show me and make a case.
>Otherwise, keep that dumb nigga agenda shit off me fam.

LMAO

Who the fuck you talking to, nigga?


>>He's no more 'naturally gifted' than Jordan was.
>
>Actually, IMO, he is. He's stronger, taller and faster.
>Jordan was just as athletic, had a better grasp of footwork
>and fundamentals and was more agile.

Lebron is also a far better passer, which is a "fundamental."

Jordan was waaaay quicker laterally, had waaaay better body
control and flexibility. Those are "natural gifts."

So shush.



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This was Pre-Pippen. MJ averaged a triple double.

>This was Pre-Pippen. MJ averaged a triple double.

In fact, Jordan wasn't even as good a passer as Larry
Bird.

So stop.

Jordan was a *very good* passer.

Lebron is one of the best pure passers ever.


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>LMAO
>
>Jordan was not as good a passer than Lebron.
>
>Magic was, but Lebron was never feeding Kareem in the
>post. (Lebron would *easily* average 10 assists per if
>he did)

Your opinion. I disagree. Jordan could do it but it wasn't what he excelled at most. Team needed him to be the weapon and that's what he did best.

>LMAO
>
>Who the fuck you talking to, nigga?
>

To you. Nigga I ain't no transgender millennial. You respond to me, address me and my history. I give fuckall what other people have said. You accuse me of something, have proof or skip the hyperbole.

>Lebron is also a far better passer, which is a "fundamental."

>Jordan was waaaay quicker laterally, had waaaay better body
>control and flexibility. Those are "natural gifts."
>
>So shush.

As stated above, I don't agree on the passing so agree to disagree. And to me agility includes body control and flexibility so I agree there.

With LeBron there are so more ways to win games, but with Jordan there are more ways to win titles. Look at what he did without a dominant post player or a point guard. Consider him with one or both of those two things. He was a complete player and a money player.

>With LeBron there are so more ways to win games, but with
>Jordan there are more ways to win titles. Look at what he did
>without a dominant post player or a point guard. Consider him
>with one or both of those two things. He was a complete player
>and a money player.

Many great teams don't have "post players."

Hell, Golden State doesn't really have a "post player."


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You know, the All-Star Center/Power Forward Gold Medal Winner All-NBA guy

>You know, the All-Star Center/Power Forward Gold Medal Winner
>All-NBA guy

That's the specific reason he's deadly.

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Bosh was doing 17 and 7, Grant was doing 14 and 10, and Rodman was leading the NBA in boards and putting up First-Team defense.

I'm not saying that Bron had no post presence. I'm saying we shouldn't say Jordan didn't have any either.

>Bosh was doing 17 and 7, Grant was doing 14 and 10, and
>Rodman was leading the NBA in boards and putting up First-Team
>defense.

Rodman is probably the best post defender ever.

But that's not a "post presence?"

LMAO

OK

>I'm not saying that Bron had no post presence. I'm saying we
>shouldn't say Jordan didn't have any either.


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How many teams without a dominant presence in the middle won a title before Jordan? Or even for years after? Look at how different the triangle was between Chicago and Los Angeles. Imagine Jordan playing Kobe's role with that kind of post player. Different game and scary efficient.

>How many teams without a dominant presence in the middle won
>a title before Jordan? Or even for years after? Look at how
>different the triangle was between Chicago and Los Angeles.
>Imagine Jordan playing Kobe's role with that kind of post
>player. Different game and scary efficient.

Man, you wrong

Take that L

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Only 1 of his 5 1st team all D nods came at PF.

When he was an elite defender he was a 3

Grant was a really good player, but he wasn't Bosh. Not by a mile. The roles made the numbers similar, but no one (not even you) thinks they are comparable basketball players.

Also, Rodman won ONE all defense as a Bull and his all around game had withered to rebounding...and that's it. Also never had more than 0.4 bpg as a Bull.

But I do think you're being at least a little disingenuous

the only other person I'd really consider is Kareem.

LeBron: the only player I can remember that can make (or break) a team.

It might have been Shaq, but Kobe was right.